That Is How I First Felt .... But Then !!!!
Getnati. I first got an invitation from my real first lowdown party in dtroit. It came from a girl that worked at the wood-six, on woodward & six mile. I got two invite to the same after hours party, from two different girls at the place. Then I decided to go. I had gotten invite cards before, but nothing professional, like you see from the nyc group. They were just computer made, and you had to have one to get in.
In detroit, these parties were extremely wild. They had live sex contest, between the crowd & strippers, and so much more. It was $25 to even get into the door, girls were available for $35 a girl, and $10 for the room, and you got ##20-30 minutes according to the girl, and if you know her enough.
There was also lots of food & drinks, at a very low price, and some places had full gambling, and others just had poker/cards. These after hours places were bargains, but they only wanted folks willing to spend money. There was often 1/4-1/3 women in there looking for other women.
I have to say that 60% of strippers are bisexual, and only 15% are totally straight. The rest are lesbian, but work men for the money at the clubs.
When I started telling people here in cincy about detroit, and the lock down parties there, they started having them here, and it grew. Soon a few out-of-town groups started having regular parties here, and it took off.
Then they let locals take it over, and then it really spread. Everyone started doing it. Some are still doing it and that has been over the last #15-20 years, and many got busted do to carelessness, and very poor security which got them busted by the police.
Then, a few lost there crowd due to bad attitudes & rip-offs by their strippers, and the women were generally unattractive, too many real thugs attending. A great portion of them are gone, so the better one survived.
Getnati, take the invitation, and go. Most of the parties now the girls charge $100-150 for fs, and in some parties the host sets the price, and fs may be $75. $55=girl, 10=host, 10=house/security. On premises you are getting about #15-20mins. To finish. Off premises, you have whatever you and the girl set up.
That is why I work on off location, because then I get to know their other friends & family, that work, the SW business, both full and part-time. The more le goes after them the deeper underground they go, and the better they become at hiding. Most get busted, when they have too much internal arguing & problems. It is all driven by money, all driven by money!
Lastly. I hit the streets Sunday after the allstar game, and the streets were very dead, other than skanks. It did lien up around 9pm, but they were on the elm track, and le was heavy in the area. About a week ago, I noticed a cop parked at the end of elm & mcmic, pointing south. He was just down from the cop at the church lot.
All along mcmic, it was mt. Even in the hoods, it was SW's slow, and skank heavy. I finally, give up, and called on a part-timer. I did not want to pay $40-50 for something decent, but she was the only person with minutes, answering her phone. No one was available, and those that were, were not at home, but at relatives at the time. I did no feel like being a taxi service, going to pick them up for whatever. Even if gas prices are low again!
Again it is all about "time & money."
[QUOTE=Getnati]I've gotten a couple of invites to private parties, but never attended. I've always been apprehensive about the security and what to expect, although the invitations were always professional looking. These invites usually come from girls who you VERY rarely see walking the street. They are diamonds though.
On another note, last night cruised around to all the regular spots. Kind of dead. Looks like the LPH girls have been chased up to UPH. I'm guessing due to LEO. When is LEO gonna learn that all they're doing is shuffling it around! I say legalize and let it help out our economy, especially considering the last couple of posts.[/QUOTE]
LE + CRIMESTOPPERS + SW's = NEW TIP INFO.
I was just watching TV news, and saw a phone bank connected to Crimestoppers, looking for tips & info, on existing crimes. It is the street level people that have the information. Who has more info on that more than the SW's out there on the streets. This is a source that LE under utilizes and does not really respect. I know these street girls have info, because I have heard it.
Having a Crimestoppers Telethon, means the tips are drying up and crime files are being closed due to the lack of info. Well, if the LE would leave the street SW's alone, they would get info, and be able to work out deals for that info.
In working out the deal, "PROTECTION/SECRECY" is the major key. LE has done very little to protect SW's out there who have given them good information, and that information got back on the streets, and put the lives of SW's in danger, and LE just looked the other way.
If people know Sauna, I think she was a victim of that, and she was almost beat to death. After that Beat Down, she was never the same. She was an "EXAMPLE" to all to never snitch on anything.
As, I talk to SW's Past & Present, they have a TON of information, about what is going on in the streets, and what the Police Know and Don't Know!
Many of the unsolved Murders, Robberies, Rapes, and More, someone knows about. All SW's out there know to keep there mouth shut, or end up dead or a bad beat down, but they want to tell someone. I have heard a lot of stories, and months down the line, I hear on the news that they were "Right" and their story was correct.
LE, is not going to solve crimes relying just on the average critizen to call "Crime Stoppers", they have to learn to work with the girls of the streets, and get tips from them. The same is from the fags too, as much as I dislike them, they have given the street girls some good info, to watch out about, or people they are warned about. A lot of the Drug Boyz pick up Fags late night in secret, and this has been on going. While they are with them very often they begin to talk about what is going on, shootings, and crimes committed. It is a up to LE to decide if it is with the chance, to utilize street girls/people for there intel. If that is the case, they will have to stop the Full Court Press on busting SW's. Just limit them to certain areas of OTR/WE/LPH/UPH, and other places throughout the hoods. These Girls will be glad to work with LE if that will keep them out of jail, and from being hassled. It works in the larger Cities of LAX, NYC, Chicago, Detriot, ATL. , and everyplace else.
The Girls can get Paid via Crimestoppers/LE, Not Hassled, a place on the streets to do their thing, all for giving LE tips on the Unsolved Mystries of the Streets.
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VIAGRA by MAIL .... SOMEONE ASKED ME .... and I HAD "NO" ANSWER !!!!
On this site is an Advertisement for Generic Viaga. I did not know there was such a thing. Anyway as we were talking they wanted to know if the product was "LIGIT."
Since they saw it on this site, they figured it was a valid product, but I could NOT say it was for certain. I have NEVER read any report from Jackson about using the products advertised on his site, and guaranteeing them not to be fakes.
I then checked out the site myself, and I saw nothing supporting it from anyone using this site where one might be able to PM them for validation. If it were true it looked to be a bargain, but is it real.
If anyone can "VALIDATE" the product or tell us more if there is such a thing as generic Viagra, or even if this site is selling the real deal, or bogus junk.
Money is too tight to be spending it on FAKE products over the net, or even down the streets of your homes.
That is another reason why people go "postal". "getting ripped off"!
ATTRACTIVE vs UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN !!!!
How often have you had an unattractive women/SW that was skilled great attitude, willing to please, inexpensive, and a good business mind on her verse an attractive women/SW that had poor to "C scale" skills, did not put her best into it, was always taking to get more money than her performance warranted, and seemed to be a total "Ding Bat" about doing business.
Well, that happened to me, and I can tell you after some review of what happened, for the money I have to take the unattractive SW. Of course there are too many factor to write about trying to keep it short, but she did have a very nice decent body, and for that alone I scored her high.
The attractive SW was a lot less shapely and to me lacked curves, but man was she pretty. If she cut the drugs and cleaned up, she could be on America's Next Top Model. But she is going down hill on the fastest track possible
The unattractive SW took care of me in her place, and even put on her High Heels and Mini skirt on w/o panties to put on a show for me. She had some very nice legs, and a body that was curvy. But she had a face that would not be an average one, and she knew it.
The attractive one tried to please me, but you can tell, she was really not into being an SW. She did it because she had an addiction, and thought because she was so pretty, that alone should be enough to make me happy with her performance. She was always trying to get extra money, saying what more she would do, or let me do for 5-10 more. I almost stopped her in her tracks, and told her to just stop. But she was right to an extent, if she were not so pretty, I would have kicked her to the curb immediately, so I was kinda paying her for her "LooKs" and not her skills.
I have to admit I have be seeing them since mid January 09, when I gave each a ride, during a set of Cold weather. Of course I immediately moved to see if they would bite any bait thrown out there, and they did.
But I am trying to find out if any other of the brotha's out there, have the same situation going on, or have in their mongering careers. This is not my first experience like this. Some of the BEST Pussy I have ever had came from one of the Ugliest Girls I have ever Fucked. She really did have the "Snapping Pussy." She had been doing "Ben-Wee" balls since she was 14y/o. Her mother knew she wasn't going to be an attractive girl, because her mother wasn't, so she want her to be excellent in bed, and she was. If she were better looking, she could have been a World Class Escort. Yet sadly she screwed a lot of men, behind closed doors for FREE.
As for the cost of the SW's it is still the standard rate. If you are paying more than 30, you are paying too much, and if you are paying less than 20 for FS, then you possibly have a "Skank" in your car.
Sometimes it is good to do a little TAXI service, once in a while and waste a few gallons of gas. That is a way to find those Diamonds in the rough or the ones with skillz?
Think About It!
Generic viagra is indeed legit!
Hey Boom,
I cannot attest to the validity of the "Secure Tabs" link below, or the quality of the product, however, I RTFF on this subject on this site some time ago and was pointed to the following site:
Www. A l l d a y see h e m I s t dot com for my blue tab needs. I placed the minimum order and held my breath. Got them within two weeks (shipped from overseas) and lo and behold, it was dead on! Pricing is good and the delivery time has been as quick as one week since then!
[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic]On this site is an Advertisement for Generic Viaga. I did not know there was such a thing. Anyway as we were talking they wanted to know if the product was "LIGIT."
Since they saw it on this site, they figured it was a valid product, but I could NOT say it was for certain. I have NEVER read any report from Jackson about using the products advertised on his site, and guaranteeing them not to be fakes.
I then checked out the site myself, and I saw nothing supporting it from anyone using this site where one might be able to PM them for validation. If it were true it looked to be a bargain, but is it real.
If anyone can "VALIDATE" the product or tell us more if there is such a thing as generic Viagra, or even if this site is selling the real deal, or bogus junk.
Money is too tight to be spending it on FAKE products over the net, or even down the streets of your homes.
That is another reason why people go "postal". "getting ripped off"![/QUOTE]
BSW vs WSW. Just More Trouble Or What?
It use to be you could find more BSW than WSW walking the streets, and mainly WSW did the escort, high end route. Not anymore! Due to the whole drug scene there seems to be more WSW's out and about than BSW. I am seeing even more WSW in Black neighborhoods, and in areas you would normally see BSW.
I can tell you that BSW are putting themselves out-of-business. They create too many problems, have too many demands, too many Do's & Don't, far, far too much attitude about everything, and have almost priced themselves out of the whole market. How they think anyone is going to pay the prices they are asking and how they come about that price for themselves is a wonder.
Even Worse is WSW that thry to act like BSW's with attitude, speech, jestures, and all. They are even worse. I avoid them as much as I can, or I try to completely separate them from the area, and the poeople they hang around. That ain't easy to do.
I have seen some BSW's that were Stone Cold Foxes, and after about 2-5 minutes of conversation, I was ready to toss them out of my car. I can; t tell you how many BSW want the money, but don't want to perform the service. Too many time they "Don't" want to perform BJ's, are always trying to Rush you, and want you to be a taxi for them, before or after the deed. Can you take me here and there. Take me here and can you wait for me, I'll be 5 minutes. Yea Right!
Even the BSW that are just kinda decent are asking for 50 to start. Only the ones that are more on the skank-side, will even start out at the general street price. If you have to negotiate with BSW, then expect that if she agrees to your lower price, and you will get her lowest service. If you suddenly need anything extra, you will have to pay for it each and everytime, until she pushes you too her original price. And most time that will be lack-luster to begin with, at best. You can tell, that they are not into pleasing, and this is something they are doing strictly for the money. That is not always the case, but it is becoming the normal. They don't seem to care about the quality of their service. And will give you piss-poor service, and tell you how good it must have been.
Now rarely in this city do you see BSW with a pimp, unless she is doing this for the first time, and needs someone to make her first contacts. Once she smartens up, she quickly gets rid of him. I do see quite a few Female Pimps with a stable of bi-girls they deal out. It is amazing how they control them.
As for WSW's they are far easier to deal with. They get ripped off by everyone more than BSW, and are used more than everyone, for everything. There use to be a WSW on the street name Connie. She is from Indy, and hung in OTR/WE. Connie was kinda tall, in her early forties, damn nice body, decent face, and did crack, but was NOT cracked out. She was a real ding-bat, and would often go trick and leave her purse, with everything in someones apt. Once she came back her money and valuables were gone. When I would pick her up, I would have to tell her to get her purse, and things and take with her. Ding-Bat!
Now you have Misty, Christie, Secret, Brandy, Mandy, Wht-Gurl, and so many more, are just as Air-Headed as they can be. But they are easy to get along with, they don't price themselves out of the market, they put in good service for the money and often better service than you paid for, rarely give you attitude or trouble, sometimes will take payment after service (that is always a good thing), and are willing to please and take pride in being a skilled SW. I have heard some of the WSW talk about their girlfriends and what their specialties are. It is like a big ongoing thing they all smile and laugh about, but true.
Unfortunately 99% of the SW's out there have little mind for business, rarely keep minutes on any cell phone, and can't always be found when needed. They don't check messages, and stay too high most of the time, to even remember to do what is needed to make decent money.
That is why they are easy picking for the cops.
All-in-All, I far more prefer WSW, than BSW, just because they are easier to do business with. BSW has the bodies, if they aren't over weight to start. Once a few BSW get to know you their service to you will vastly improve, but that is a big "If."
With the state of SW affairs in this City, any SW you can find, whether WSW/BSW, consider yourself Lucky. They are becoming find to find, hard to keep up with, and even harder to find again.
Has anyone seen this one??
Has anyone seen this one??
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Thanks for the "facts". And more!
In my travels I can tell you that you are right, and so is Benrichards560, and many more who PM'ed me. I will take the neighborhoods of Cincinnati, over almost anyplace in the Midwest or the whole USA. You won't get shot to death just for driving down the wrong streets like what has happened in LAX neighborhoods, or other far worse "Hoods."
Now, I do have to say Cincinnati, Ohio has one of the worse selections of SW action in the Midwest, and maybe the USA. When you look and compare our area to other areas, man does our SW action "SUCK." It Sucks Big Time !!!! Especially if you compare it to what it use to be, years back, it is NOT worth a visit, even for the locals here.
Being a Local, I know how to get some of what I want, even out on the streets, but compared to what I have seen in other American Cities our's ranks Number One for the Worst, or at least Last for the Best. And America itself has to rank Last World Wide, for SW action. Outside the USA even in Canada & Mexico, SW action is amazingly better. As for safety, well that is another matter, especially in third world type countries. Canada is very safe, even compared to the USA, in SW action.
Lastly, Trechman, I heard you mention about areas where the Native Indians live, and their neighborhoods. How is the SW area among the Native Americans. Being in Cincy, you heard a Ton of people talk about having Cherokee blood in the, but no one can claim to be a real Native Indian. In my travels I have never had or met any Native Indian street SW, and only a few Latino, and other kinds including Asian, East Indian, among others. I have always mainly seen BSW & WSW's. So, give us some information on N.I. SW's.
Just think, if the CPD, had to handle the amount of SW's like in E. St. Louis, LAX, ATL, Chicago, NYJ/NYC, or even Detroit .... They would have little time to be doing some of the Showboat things they are doing now. Maybe then they would stop trying to move the SW action around, and focus in on keeping them in one area. In this way they would stay out of residential areas, that really don't want them there.
In this way the Police won't be cruising all OTR/WE rounding up SW's. Leave them at McM & Mohawk from Vine to Ravine, and Findlay to Central along Linn. That can be a controlled area. These SW's are going to go someplace, and everytime they are run from one place, they just move to another.
Of course Ch.#5 would be out of a story, and fewer residents complaints, but then doing this would mean less man power, and thus a need for less police to patrol an area. Maybe even reassignments, and other departments.
[QUOTE=Trechman]I've been around a bit, East St. Louis, Detroit, 4th in Memphis, Some parts of Vegas, all worse than OTR.
But by far the roughest and nastiest neighborhood has to be south tracks in Billings Montana. Whoof the Native Americans (used very kindly) have no sense of rules and EVEYONE there is fair game for whatever they decide to take.[/QUOTE]
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Felony vs. Misdemeanor .... Continued !!!!
Firehouse it is not about Felony or Misdemeanor, it is about the collection of information, how it is used, and stored for later use. Not everything about LE is about arresting someone, never ever make that mistake. Every PD has it special units for collecting information both Local, State, and Federal, and at some point being able to use it. Sometime it is never used, but it is a way to just know who is doing what. It is a form of Big Brother Watching. Not exactly a big deal yet.
Anyone who goes after children should be immediately taken down, imprisoned, to the fullest extent of the law, and gladly we are not doing that, but the LAW can act in very strange ways, and they often find ways to use the law or create a new one, that can gather information, and utilize it at a later time.
I personally misdemeanor or not, don't want LE tracking me in anyway. I don't want them gathering information via this site on myself, whether they use it of not. And I especially don't want this site used to track pictures posted to it, from people who just want to get their FREAK-ON, but would never harm a person for any reason other than self defense.
Of all LE departments in the country Cincinnati, is one of the most unusual. The movement for the morality of being able to buy & see porn started here in this city with prosecution of Larry Flyntt by Simon Leiss, and it has never stopped to date. Then it spread to Maplethrop, and beyond. So, yea I am a little paranoid, and rightly so. Technology can be a real "MOTHA", and the more we know the better off we are.
The purpose of this post is not to frighten everyone, but to see if the information/program is true and correct, and if anyone else saw the AMW program mentioning it when it came on. This is just a fact finding probe.
As you said I don't think we are being tracked right at this moment, or at least I hope we aren't, but I would not be surprised if it not been suggested by someone in LE.
With Budgets cut to the MAX for right now. LE has more fish to fry than us, but at some point, their budgets will expand again, and this discussion will be talked about again.
A certain amount of paranoia is healthy....
[QUOTE=WordUp] So, yea I am a little paranoid, and rightly so. Technology can be a real "MOTHA", and the more we know the better off we are. [/QUOTE]
I have to agree with our friend Word Up here.
Outside of the hobby, most of us probably lead pretty conservative lives. (I don't even drink alcoholic beverages.) Our hobby involves consensual activities between adults. (Let me reiterate what others have stated in a slightly different manner: We hobbyists are interested in activities with other *adults*. In all my years in the hobby, I have never seen anyone even imply an interest in minors.)
We all agree that it is foolish to waste public resources prosecuting adults for consensual activities. Don't get me started on this soapbox, because I will literally never shut up once I get on a roll. I find it intolerable that the government feels obliged to prosecute us as they once went after gays.
Nevertheless, the law is what it is. Just as the government once arrested gays, they now arrest hobbyists and providers. We have not yet had our "Stonewall," although there are some hopeful signs on the legal front---like the recent floating of Proposition K in California.
Over the long run, the enemies of freedom will be consigned to the scrap heap of history. Someday the right of consenting adults to participate in the hobby will be taken for granted.
In the meantime, though, the enemies of freedom have the upper hand. True, no one is going to spend 10 years in prison for consensual sex with a provider. However, LE and the anti-sex league (on the right *and* the left) will think nothing of embarrassing you in public---leading to severe economic and social consequences. (This is exactly how gays were persecuted during the 1950s.)
The best way, then, is to be discreet, until laws change for the better. As Ayn Rand said, "You cannot stop a juggernaut by throwing yourself in front of it." Likewise, we hobbyists must remain mindful that where we are concerned, the law is *not* currently on the side of human rights and freedom.
High-tech software program
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[QUOTE=WordUp]...... Every PD has it special units for collecting information both Local, State, and Federal, and at some point being able to use it. Sometime it is never used, but it is a way to just know who is doing what. It is a form of Big Brother Watching. Not exactly a big deal yet....................
The purpose of this post is not to frighten everyone, but to see if the information/program is true and correct, and if anyone else saw the AMW program mentioning it when it came on. This is just a fact finding probe...........[/QUOTE]WordUp,
I got thinking about what you saw on "American Most Wanted" (AMW) and the technology that can be used to track information. Well there is a high-tech software program recently made available to law enforcement. This software is kept secret from the public and has been in used in states like Florida in tracking down child pornography.
Law enforcement agencies won't give the specifics of the software's methodology, they say it can help them zero-in on wireless routers and illegal files. I located the AMW feature story on the AMW web site that talks about this new tech. Here is the link.
[url]http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=3473&mid=0[/url]
Maybe someone knows more about this software program and can enlighten us about how it works. Also what's it called and if all LE agencies have this program. I'm all for tracking down child predators and locking them away forever.
WordUp did have an interesting question and that was will LE use this tech to track hobbyist posting pictures and reports about escorts and SW's?
Right now there is a search engine that can track sources of images on the internet. It's called "TinEye". You can use it for free. TinEye is a reverse image search engine. You can submit an image to TinEye :
• Find out where an image came from, or get more information about it
• Research or track the appearance of an image online
• Find higher resolution versions of an image
• Locate web pages that make use of an image you have created
• Discover modified or edited versions of an image
This is the search engine I use to see if the pictures used in Ads you see in Craigslist and Back-page are faked and where the real source of the picyures. Most pictures are fakes on Back-page Ads. It's a great tool to check on escort Ads. Here is the Link.
[url]http://tineye.com/[/url]
This tool provides an interesting service that might be useful for people who like to check if their images or photos are used on other websites. I was talking to a provider that was complaining that another girl was using her pictures for her Ads on Back-page. Some of the pictures posted by me and others on this board have been posted by others on other web sites.
Technology can be a "MOTHA".
Knowledge is Power and Freedom. Stay informed
Harpo2U
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I have to Agree with the WordUp, Harpo, T. C., and the rest. I don't have the facts of Harpo to add, and Harpo that was a very good post. I have been using that kinda program for the same reason as you have been. I just thought it might be best if I keep it to myself, so I am glad it is out, and others are using it. Good move on everyones part.
This is one reason why I agree, and that is that I had been using a program that others have been using, only a few members I am close to know it, and I gather my little information from it, just to know who is faking what, and what is real. No harm done, and it points an arrow at who is being Real.
So why wouldn't LE do the same. Nothing says LE/They have to use the information they gather to any use, and for the most part they may never use it. Still, I am myself a little paranoid about information gathering, and who is collecting it for what purpose. I have some Privacy Matter/Concerns here, and Bush did a lot to erode those. Now, in an afford to find Terrorist & Child Predators, someone is gathering information on citizen, just for the sake of information gathering.
It is bad enough that the NSA/CIA/Military & More are collecting data for there purposes, but to give that ability to local and State LE agencies, is a receipe for abuse at some point. When it comes to one individual being able to dictate LE policy in any area, speaks to later abuse of that information for their own political needs. If you think Uncle Simon and crew would not abuse that info in this are, then you haven't lived here long.
The last thing any of us need is to have LE hanging gathered information over someones head, in order to get them to compile to whatever demands they may need.
Of course they can't touch Jackson, because he is not in the USA, but that does not mean they won't still go after him on a John Doe warrant, and then go after his Membership subscribers. I think it is a little Far Fetch, but still possible. Just because I am Paranoid, doesn't mean they are still Not after Me!
[b]Question:[/b]
I have been thinking about signing up to this FLING Advertisement on the side of the site. I know it is going to cost something so I want to know if. "Anyone Out There, Has Used There Service."
I use to use Adult Friend Finder, and I would NEVR EVER recommend them. It was top loaded with old out-of-service female ads, and top loaded with ads that no one ever responded to. I took me a while before I got my moneys worth from AFF, but it took almost 2 months of use, before I found someone real in my area. I got a ton of fake ads/replies. Still, it was not worth the cost.
This is why I want to know about FLING. I have heard a lot of good things about it, but I still know no one who is a member. I use to use many of the Chat Lines, but when I got cheated out of many of my minutes when the system changed, I decided to cut my loses. I would like to get back into something like the Chat lines, but not the Chat rooms. So, FLING seems to be the best available, other than a couple of others.
You can PM me if you wish, but I don't think I am the only one wanting this information. Plus it will help Jackson sale an Advertiser that we need to keep this site Free, even though I would still pay a small fee to be a member of this site.
So Who Has the Information, Any Info Will Be Appreciated, Welcomed, and Needed.
Also, has any heard of an SW Body Builder. I have never known of, nor heard of one, but Why Not ????
I have had SEX with Female Body Builders, but they were not hardcore steroid users, as I knew them, and still had their female look to them. I don't think I would be interested in F.B.B. that have started to change into looking like men. That is no attractive at all.
I have been with some Fitness SW's, and some very Flexible Sw's, and some other with skillz of the Body, but no competition level FBB SW's. Interesting to find out.
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