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Stoner:
Fine observation, my friend.
Have an hour to look tonight. pretty much bare all over. Found Carmen walking home. had not seen her lately. 5 ft 1 95 lb A cup, good attitude about 30 YO or so. Will meet the right guys an has a phone. Shes bored.
Drove through DP last night at about 1:30am. Saw 1 BSW and 1 HSW. Would have stopped for the HSW, but was on the clock. She was a 6-7 on the scale, nice and slender, with long hair. Surprised to see that they were out so late.
Alpha: Just announced on Hartford Police Website that the
manager (Jeannie) of Alpha pleaded guilty to taking credit cards
for prositution. Thast's BullShit. They ought to go after the banks
that approved the charges.
33 prostitutes an druggies arrested in Hartford last week according to todays Courant. LE still on the hunt. Maybe that explains why streets have been so empty.
Manager of A pleads guilty yesterday according to new story in this ams Courant.Second guilty plea in a week with more to come.
But more important is EDITORIAL PAGE article calling for arrest of the 4600 patrons who LE have names an addresses for . Any not past the 10 year statute of limitations they want arrested. Plus they call for investigation of HTFD PD as to why they didnt close it down.Looks like Courant intends to make 4600 names public an see if there are any well know people on the list. Read the Editorial. Makes for chilling reading.
Don't worry about it... LE cannot make an arrest for a misdemeanor unless they witness the actual crime.
This morning's article about Alpha was buried on Page B9 of the Connecticut section, for those of you looking for it. Headline reads "Crackdown on Brothel; Manager Pleads Guilty." The story further proves Stoner's point about credit cards.
Looks like I may have underestimated the amount of money available for the owner to stash into a Swiss bank account, so thanks to everyone for the lively discussion over the last week. Even if the owner had only hidden $100,000 a year (after spa expenses and her own requirements) of the presumed $450K - $500K gross revenue, over a 25-year period that amount would have grown tremendously if the interest earned was reinvested.
Something that intrigued me about today's story was that the manager, Josephine Ramondetta, "admitted that she made about $177,000 in the six years that she managed the club." Guys, that's less than $30,000 a year for six years, a lot less than the owner or the working girls made, and about the same salary as a clerk in an office in downtown Hartford. Makes me wonder if she cooperated in the investigation in return for a reduced sentence? Hmmmmm.
Yes, I'm curious about the list of 4,600 customers. Glad I'm not on it, since I've never been to Alpha. All of my posts here on WSG are pure fiction.
4,600 names! Ouch! I am assuming that could only be the credit card customers. The "book" just had first name and last initial.
Here is the 'editorial' that Monger22 was referring to in it's entirety.
Don't Let The Johns Off Hook
March 24, 2004
HARTFORD -- U.S. Attorney Kevin J. O'Connor should consider the culpability of the 4,600 clients who over 25 years patronized a Franklin Avenue brothel known as the Alpha Leisure & Health Club until federal authorities recently shut it down.
The names on the list are not directly relevant to Mr. O'Connor's case against the brothel's operators, who have been indicted on charges of using interstate wires to make millions of dollars in credit card transactions for prostitution.
The list, if the clients' names and their patronage of the brothel can be verified, may hold clues to how the business stayed open. Running a busy house of prostitution on one of Hartford's main streets for 25 years would be difficult without law enforcement authorities or public officials knowing or hearing of its operation.
Mr. O'Connor's office has so far secured a plea deal from the club's madam, Gail Gaer of Newington, and its manager, Josephine Ramondetta, for conspiracy. Ms. Gaer faces up to 25 years in prison and $750,000 in fines and Ms. Ramondetta faces five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. In Ms. Gaer's plea agreement, she admitted pocketing more than $5.4 million while she ran the club and keeping huge sums of the money in Swiss bank accounts.
But Mr. O'Connor should weigh the possibility of going after those whose patronage enabled the brothel to thrive. Perhaps more recent entries and any records of payment could conclusively tie patrons to the brothel and lead to charges still within any statute of limitations.
Although the list is sealed to public view by law until the case is closed, judicious use of the information, along with court permission to share it with the Hartford Police Department if warranted, could bring patrons of the brothel to justice and reveal potential reasons that city law enforcement authorities failed to close it sooner.
Sun night cruise. 2 new white SW in DP. Long blondish hair. 20s.Both got picked up quickly. Went to Garden an found Latina from 3 weeks ago after a 45 minute search. Not many active ladies observed.
>> Sun night cruise. 2 new white SW in DP.
>> Long blondish hair. 20s.Both got picked up quickly.
One of them was there this afternoon also.
Mighty Spearsman:
>Looks like I may have underestimated the amount of money available for the owner to stash into a
>Swiss bank account, so thanks to everyone for the lively discussion over the last week. Even if the
>owner had only hidden $100,000 a year (after spa expenses and her own requirements) of the
>presumed $450K - $500K gross revenue, over a 25-year period that amount would have grown
>tremendously if the interest earned was reinvested.
Ordinary Swiss bank accounts pay negligible interest (and if you're a foreigner the bank takes back 1/3 of that). "Secret" accounts pay no interest, and have fees too. The Swiss banks know perfectly well that the main reason foreigners have accounts there is to evade taxes at home, or otherwise hide loot, so they don't have to pay them interest--and they don't.
If she was just using the Swiss bank accounts to launder the money temporarily somehow, then reinvesting it, sure she could have built up her nest egg. But putting the money into the bank and leaving it there wouldn't have done much for her balance except keep it out of sight of the Feds.
WTIC 530 news Tues 3/30 Hartford Police have begun arresting patrons of A today. First 5 guys arrested this afternoon. Arrests could reach the hundreds.HTFD Police working in conjunction with the Feds the report said. State arrests have a 1 year statute of limitations, Federal 10 years. Im sure the Courant will have all the details tomorrow including all the guys names an addresses. I guess they had more than first name last initial in their records. Stoner was 100 % correct in his advice an wisdom. If you are gonna play dont use your credit card. Use cash.
Coming home at 8 I passed Homestead an Garden. I spot this white girl an her GF turning onto Sargeant St. I turn round an pull over. WOW>>Her name is Katie. 5 ft 3 106 lb long long brown hair 24 YO No kids Lives in East Hartford. Guys I found another CHRISTINA......Unbelievable in bed $20 Not ur usual SW. Former dancer at ELECTRIC BLUE...Now works at a reastreaunt in Manchester PT. HOT HOT HOT.....
According to fox 61, they went by credit card receipts. Also the men were at the club when they raided it in October. They also arrested annother manager and the other owner. The manager was Becky and the other owner was Angela.
Here's the full article from Hartford Courant's website:
Brothel Customers May Face Charges
March 31, 2004
By MATT BURGARD, Courant Staff Writer
There could be a lot of nervous johns out there, now that law enforcement officials say that hundreds of former customers at a closed Hartford brothel could face charges as part of an investigation into one of the most lucrative prostitution operations ever seen in the city.
Mark R. Pawlina, the acting Hartford police chief, said Tuesday that five men have been arrested on charges of paying to have sex with prostitutes at the Alpha Leisure & Health Club on Franklin Avenue in Hartford.
Federal officials announced that two people were indicted on charges of profiting from the club's operations. Three others pleaded guilty to similar charges earlier this month.
The five men accused of patronizing prostitutes were identified by Hartford police as [names edited]. They were the first alleged customers of the Alpha Club to be arrested. Officials said they were inside the establishment when police conducted a series of raids there.
The raids also yielded lists and other paperwork containing the identities of more than 4,600 customers who patronized the club over the quarter-century it operated until it was shut down for good late last year.
It's doubtful that police will seek arrest warrants for every customer listed, but officials said hundreds of people will be looked at as possible suspects.
"We anticipate many more arrests - there could be potentially thousands of customers eligible for charges," Pawlina said, adding that women who worked at the club as prostitutes are expected to be charged in the weeks ahead.
Kevin O'Connor, the U.S. attorney for Connecticut who has helped oversee the investigation, said the number of arrests probably will be limited for a number of reasons, including the statute of limitations.
Since patronizing a prostitute is a misdemeanor in Connecticut, the statute of limitations gives police only a year from the date of the offense to make an arrest. Anyone who paid to have sex at the Alpha Club more than a year ago will not be eligible for charges.
O'Connor said the fact that someone's name may be on the list or other documents would also probably not be sufficient to warrant charges.
"We don't want people to think we'll be rounding up thousands of johns," he said. "It's not that easy. But if we find people who we can build a case against, we will do it."
The club, which for years drew the wrath of neighbors in the city's south end, brought in millions of dollars in profits for its handful of owners and managers.
Pawlina said city police frequently carried out undercover investigations and raids to shut the club down over the years. But the small-scale prostitution arrests they made were not enough to close its doors permanently, he said.
It wasn't until city police got an idea of how profitable the club was that federal investigators were called in to track the money and build cases against the club ownership, he said.
Working with investigators from the FBI and the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, detectives with the department's vice squad carried out undercover sting operations in which detectives posed as prostitutes and johns, O'Connor said.
"We realize that in an operation as large as this, it takes two to tango, and if it wasn't for the customers coming to patronize the prostitutes, this business wouldn't have been able to thrive like it did," he said.
This month, O'Connor's office accepted guilty pleas from three people in federal court who admitted profiting from the brothel's proceeds, in some cases reaping millions of dollars in credit card charges from johns. The owners then transferred the money to bank accounts in Switzerland, and mailed bulk payments back to the U.S., officials said.
Besides the three who have pleaded guilty - Gail Gaer, 63; Josephine Ramondetta, 48; and Reed Jaffe, whose age was not provided by officials - O'Connor said, two more people were indicted this week in connection with running the club.
He said Tuesday that a grand jury has also handed up a 38-count indictment against Angela Moutsatsos, 49, of West Hartford, who was identified as one of the club's principal owners, and Rebecca M. Arrowood, 32, of Florida, who was identified as a longtime club manager.
The indictments accuse Moutsatsos and Arrowood of profiting from the club's revenues, which amounted to more than $5 million during a five-year period from 1997 to 2002.
Monger22 wrote: "WTIC 530 news Tues 3/30 Hartford Police have begun arresting patrons of A today. First 5 guys arrested this afternoon. Arrests could reach the hundreds.HTFD Police working in conjunction with the Feds the report said. State arrests have a 1 year statute of limitations, Federal 10 years. Im sure the Courant will have all the details tomorrow including all the guys names an addresses. I guess they had more than first name last initial in their records. Stoner was 100 % correct in his advice an wisdom. If you are gonna play dont use your credit card. Use cash."
Thank you for your post, Monger22.
I was wondering: even if there are credit bills (if one was lazy/crazy enough to use it) and complete names of certain people, how can these people be arrested so easily? Are people from Alpha pointing fingers?
Unless these "5 guys" freely admitted to being johns OR there is videotape of these gentlemen having a sexual act and exchanging money with the women, it doesn't really seem to make sense. Am I missing something? I apologize for any ignorance, but it simply doesn't add up for me.
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Some of the local TV stations have the video of their broadcast stories available on their websites. The reporters are saying that those arrested for prostitution (the johns) were the patrons of the Alpha at the time of the raid. They most likely were caught with their pant's down, literally. For anyone else not caught in the act, anything other than a legal massage would be hard to prove.
The New York Times article on Alpha gave me a chuckle.
"Several men who said they grew up around Franklin Avenue described a stream of jazzy cars driving around to its spotlighted rear entrance and sharply dressed men walking through its front door at all hours."
Sharply dressed, hey? Jazzy cars too! You CT mongers are way too high class for us out-of-staters, obviously.
Alpfa article in todays Courant. In past couple weeks 3 employees have pled guilty to Federal charges. Awaiting sentencing. Appears they are cooperating with Feds. Yesterday a Federal grand jury indited 2 other former employees on 38 counts. Names are in paper. More arrests to come. Hartford PD arrested 5 johns. Chief said hundreds could be arrested. Prostitutes who worked there will be arrested also. Good news is they are only going back one year.Read an interperate article for yourself.Apprears they are NOT going after all 4600 credit card customers.More arrests though are sure to happen in the future. What the Courant will do with the 4600 names when they get them is anybodys guess.
No sir officer, nothing like that happened. I went had a soda and pleasant conversation. A fun place to hang out, I never did any thing illegal.
Expect LE to try and scare you: Were going to check your story out with the neighbors, employer and wife. Unless you want to co-operate.
Me (or you?): Go ahead, they know about it already, you can't blackmail me.
If someone does "co-operate", he'll get plenty of media coverage at the trial.
This is my 400th post, and unfortunately it has to be about the latest news on Alpha!
The article in today's Courant is located above the fold on page B3 of the Connecticut section and is entitled "Brothel Clients Face Charges" and listed the names of 5 local gentlemen (who I certainly will not name here) who were arrested. I hope that none of them are contributors to this board - I feel as if all of you are friends-of-a-sort and I'd hate to hear that any of you were arrested.
Interestingly, the five were arrested [B]not[/B] because their names were on the list of 4,600, but because "officials said they were inside the establishment when police conducted a series of raids."
I am worried a bit but not that much, because:
* The fact that the guys were in Alpha at the time of the raids I consider to be significant, since it is difficult to arrest someone after-the-fact for paying for sex unless there's real evidence (I'm sure that both the guy and girl would deny any illegal acts of a sexual nature).
* Alpha's list supposedly had only first names plus a last initial. So unless someone paid by credit card, that person is not likely to be arrested since there are numerous people who could fit any particular listing, such as "John R."
* Even the credit card receipts may have limited value, again because it's hard to prove that something illegal occurred after the fact.
* As the article said "the statute of limitations gives police only a year from the date of the offense to make an arrest. Anyone who paid to have sex at the Alpha Club more than a year ago will not be eligible for charges." Since the Alpha's been closed for over 3 months, this reduces the time period to about 8 1/2 months.
* I'm not sure if the Federal statue of limitations of 10 years is significant, since the Feds are interested in the money laundering, not any supposed prostitution (which is a misdemeanor, not a felony).
* I'm curious if what I am about to describe has ever happened to any of you. I can think of several occasions in the early 1990s (more than a year ago!) when I stopped by Alpha, checked in at the front desk but did not pay any house fee, went inside to enjoy my free soda, chit-chat with the ladies, maybe play some pool, then decided that I didn't want to spend more time with any of the ladies, so I left and went home. Or, I may have learned that the waiting time to wait for a particular lady would be up to an hour or more, so I decided not to wait but to come back at another time. I certainly did not do anything remotely illegal, yet my name would be listed as one of the visitors that evening. Hmmm....
Finally, I loved the post by VilunyaChert, which also reminded me of a comment I made a few weeks ago - I don't see that neighborhood as being any better now than when the Alpha was open and operating. Maybe it's time to bring back the jazzy cars and sharply-dressed men? (and maybe the NY Times journalist is a ZZ Top fan?)
Mighty,
What surprises me, is the amount of effort that went into busting what is, a small criminal enterprise. My guess is that its part of a bigger deal. Even more surprising is that similar places aren;t closing up shop and flying away in the face of this. Keep in mind that new laws allow all sorts of snooping to occur.
If the employees are cooperating, as the article says, that suggests that they have turned over the keys to the book-keeping system. So, together with a little help from Visa etc, LE can piece together who was there and how often - going back years! That probably means license plate numbers, and other personal info guys didnt know may have been collected. I'm sure LE isnt going to clog up the court system by arresting 100s of guys who spent $100 there, they're looking for something bigger -maybe the regulars, maybe it was a front for something truly nefarious.
My guess is that they can prove this was a brothel and the guys who are defendants will have to be mighty clever to explain how a brothel got his signature on a credit card slip, along with other info on certain dates. Judges aren't stupid. Probably lots of guys will plea bargain out on some minor charge and end up in divorce court.
This may not be pretty. And if you've been there in the last year, I would, at a minimum, make some calls to criminal defense lawyers to start figuring out what you're gonna do, if you get a summons or a call.
Tonights Journal Inquirer had their first story about Alpha. It basicly said the same thing as the Courants story this morning. The part that gets me, is the Chief of the Hartford PD saying " This isn't just about the prostitutes, It's also about the johns who created the demand, and we want to hold everyone involved responsible." "This is just the start of many more arrests." It sounds like this guy is running for office!
Let's be carefull!
As most of us already know, HPD arrested and the Hartford Courant published the names of the clients that were present when the Alpha club was "raided". I would like to express my sympathy to those persons and their families. The past few months must have been difficult and the coming months I am sure will be difficult. I know that it could just have easily been me there that day. Hang in there and let us know if you need any help.
Gordon Freeman
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Mark Pawlina is the interim acting chief of the HPD. In a sense he is running for office, to convince the mayor that he should be given the job on a permanent basis. The questions about the federal statute of limitations (10years) lead to another question, is prostitution a federal offence in the first place? If so, how are the brothels in Nevada considered legal? I believe the ones that have been closed or siezed by the federal government were done so for tax/money laundering reasons, not prostitution per se. If only the owners of Alpha had done some renovation work for Gov. Rowland they could still be in business.
Let's not forget, Hartford has a nice new convention center slated to open in about a year or so. This could be the start of the city cracking down to clean things up.
Regarding the Feds and Alpha methinks that if someone crossed a state line to go the the Alpha for sex then that could trigger a federal statute. Of course they'd have to prove that in federal court with higher standards of evidence and most likely it would be difficult to pin you down. I wonder though if the feds could legally impound the vehicle you went there in under RICO? If they had the license number then that could be tricky for you since you'd have to prove the vehicle was innocent in order to get it back. Can we get testimonials from people that went to Alpha and got a massage without sex? Are there any?
I dont know how many of the posters posting messages with legal opinion are actually lawyers, but I am. Let me clarify a couple if things.
There may indeed be serious and heavy harassment by LE of folks who are listed in the ALPHAs inventory of credit card records. However, unless the monger being quesitoned is unbeleivably dumb, no charges will stick and it is highly unlikely any will be filed.
Lets assume the worst case scenario - LE has 26 credit card receipts from a Mr. John D Luvdozer residing at 15 mockingbird lane. All of the receipts are form the last year so there are no statute of limitations problems. Lets aslo assume that they find 3 girls who are willing to testify that they serviced Mr. Luvdozer on 20 of those 25 occasions and that we exchanged money for sex. LE offers the girls plea bargains to get testimony against me.
This would be about as bad as it could get and this is NOT enough to sustain charges beyond a preliminary hearing. The case is so bad that it would never be filed unless the cops were trying to pressure me with public humiliation on this issue to get me to testify about some other non-related crime. Since I am not married and do not live in Hartford i could care less.
The reason that this is not enough to charge Mr Luvdozer is because the girls are his co-conspiritors and their testimony must be corroborated by some physical evidence or testimony from someone else not involved in the crime. Testimony from other Alpha employees wont help because they are all co-conspiritors according to the LE theory. credit card receipt only proves that I paid for SOMETHING. If I claim that I paid for a massage, no one can prove differently.
I could have gone to Alpha every single day and paid by credit card - I cannot be convicted of any crime. Many posters have noted the fact that the mongers who were arrested were present during the sting. Unless the cops actually caught them midstroke, it will be quite difficult to secure a conviction. If the cops try to charge Mr Luvdozer under an ordinance about patronizing a house of prostitution, all he has to say is that it wasnt a brothel when he was there. LE has the burden of proving it was.
This leads to a second issue which I have discussed in several posts. People often ask, "can i be arrested for that?" My answer is usually '" you can be arrested for ANYthing if the cops have a hard on for you" It sounds like they will start hassling people whose names appear on these credit card receipts. It is theoretically possible that they might try arresting someone to shake some testimony loose. However, as long as he keeps his mouth shut and lets his lawyer work, charges will be dismissed quickly because nothing can sustain them.
Its like being pulled over with a SW in your car before you have done anything. Technically, the cop has no business busting either one of you because he has witnessed no crime. However, cops often will bust someone based on evidence that should not be sufficient to warrent charges. Particularly in the arena of prostitution, the count on the guy's strong desire to keep his activities secret. Guys who are that frightened of being arrested often talk too much and end up giving evidence against themselves - then you are screwed.
Be polite and be quiet.
If anyone reading this board is harrased by LE because of records at Alpha, just deny deny deny. Cops WILL lie to you and tell you that they have evidence that they dont really have and that they are going to file charges that they arent really going to file. Just say " i committed no crimes and I witnessed no crimes" If they keep pushing tell them that becaise of their aggressive posture, you feel more comfortable talking to a lawyer before answering anymore questions. After that, dont say a damn thing.
As a fellow lawyer, I must respectfully disagree with Luvdozer's post. The girls would not be a customer's co-conspirators, b/c they and the customer would have committed entirely separate crimes: the girls would have committed prostitution, a class A misdemeanor (Connecticut General Stats. 53a-82), while the customer would have patronized a prostitute (Connecticut General Stats. 53a-83). In order for someone to be your "co-conspirator" the two (or more) of you have to have conspired to commit the same crime -- e.g., two people plan a bank robbery. In the bank robbery scenario, one could not be convicted of robbery solely on the testimony of the person with whom you planned the robbery.
So while it is true that one cannot be convicted solely based on the testimony of a co-conspirator, that does not apply to the Alpha scenario -- one could, in theory at least, be convicted based solely on the testimony of one of the girls.
+2 points of respect is awarded to Luvdozer and john johnson.
Thanks for chiming in with relevant data in either case.
Bottomline is always to never give into fear. Keep your wits about you.
[i]Unless you are trained as a lawyer and know all the relevant laws and "lawspeak" if you will, you have little to say to a law enforcmenet officer. Its just that simple. [/i]
I made comment by pm to another monger, and I feel its important to say that in these times we can trust very, very little. While our brothers still warm corpses are being dragged around in the streets of Iraq, our same gov't wishes to drag good citizens through our own streets. The men arrested commited no crime against an individual, and like most "so-called johns", 99% of the time, its a first time misdeameanor.
These are strange times...weird times. We should all respond appropriately. Without a doubt, yet another reason to vote some of these apes and overzealous cretans out of office. Their puritanical priorities do not match with the priorities of our country and new millenium, post-puritanical world. Hypocrites.
In my excitement over the law-talk, I forgot to mention a suprisingly pleasant recent trip to the Gold Club. Usually, the most I ever get (or expect to get) there is a nice grind in the VIP area and lots of watered-down drinks.
Went there 2 weeks ago during the day (I think a Wedneday), and got several lapdances from a young hottie named (or stage-named, rather) Alexis. She was just my type -- brown hair, nice tan skin, 34Cs, and an ass you could bounce a quarter off of. After watching her on stage, decided on a private dance.
Well, she was much friskier than the standard fare during the dance -- put her tits in my mouth to suck, and spent a few delightful seconds sucking on the head of my cock through my pants. So I decided, what the hell, I'll try the champagne room with her.
Once we got in there, it was more of the same and then some. After grinding on me for about 10 minutes -- and after we shared 2 shots of Jamison's -- she moved me to the darkest corner of the room, and, much to my surprise, pulled me out of my pants while sitting on my lap reverse cowgirl (presumably to block the cameras, which they installed a few years ago). Alexis stroked me for a minute or two while whispering very dirty things in my ear, and then put me away and got up to put her skirt back on.
I was disappointed, thinking that the fun was over, but I was wrong. She came back, sat down again, and this time, with the skirt covering her up, sat on my cock and rode me hard. I was too stunned to even protest (or to ask about a condom, which I am kicking myself for). Anyway, she started biting my neck to keep from screaming, and when she came, she just about drew blood. After another minute, I couldn't hold itand came a river.
Needless to say, this was the best Gold Club experience of all time. And I go there a lot.
One small good note among all this alpha junk. Turns out one of the customer names printed in the Hartford Courant is a friend of a friend. Luckily all his friends, family, and coworkers are standing by him. He did not do anything wrong and did not hurt anyone.
John Johnson,
How much for the lap dances and champange room?
john johnson,
re your post on gold club, i too was a regular a year back or so, i make weekly visit to the club on weekends, but haven't been there lately since i've discovered Teddies and the Keystone down in bridgeport. i too had some pleasant experiences but not to that extend. sucking on girls' tits during lapdances, fingerying the puss, etc. but never any full action as you mentioned. vip room and a few lap dances could rank up to $$
due to cost and limited action, i've stopped going there, but i do know that some girls (if not many) are available for outside action, and quite pricey $$$+. seems like i might want to give old gold club a visit. thanks for the post.
Well, I was bored so I went mongering, hit DP, NB, Ashley, absolutely nothing. Waste of gas and time.
John, I think you and I have a mutual friend. We had some fun some months ago...I am almost positive its the same girl. Lives in Mass?
If not...and truly I hope it is someone different, then it appears that action is returning in the local clubs. Much preferred, imo, than hitting Teddies. Higher quality, imo.
We had a wonderful time at the club (same as you did prior to VIP) and then FS outside for not too much. I think it was $$, can't remember.
I was wondering if anyone has heard of a user here Jenny Jones? I had posted a report about Brittany in the Meriden Forum (one of my 2 posts) and recently received a PM giving me a phone number for Christina (of Hartford SW fame) as an enticement to give out Brittany's number. Things that bother me is that Jenny Jones has no posts, the number provided had no area code but started with 933. That could either be West Haven or Wilimantic depending on the area code. I am not inclined to give out the number I have for Brittany as it just seems odd plus she hasn't given me permission to give the number out.
Monger22 posted here in the Hartford forum asking a similar question about Jenny Jones.
Hoping some of our esteemed members here have helpful advice.