Philly Sugar

[QUOTE=PinHead11;5715823]I talked to her after your post. Tried and tried to meet but she wouldn't bend unless I would to pay her 200 for at least our first platonic meet. She expected the $ before our date began. No guarantees after that. I suggested multiple options and got shot down every time. Got hours of phone time and umpteen texts.

She was 100% focused on not connecting the help to sex. Too bad because I really like her look and if she could get past that point....I just couldn't see taking the chance on one or more dates and it never progressing.

PH.[/QUOTE]Sorry you had the same experience. I'm surprised I haven't seen this one on here.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d842174e-dbbf-43c7-aa9c-622e6a3f5680[/URL]

She is on and off, but couldn't establish a connection to ultimately meet. I would have liked to meet her.

[QUOTE=Fireball25;5716044]Sorry you had the same experience. I'm surprised I haven't seen this one on here.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d842174e-dbbf-43c7-aa9c-622e6a3f5680[/URL]

She is on and off, but couldn't establish a connection to ultimately meet. I would have liked to meet her.[/QUOTE]Seriously- I would take the day off work in the blink of a eye for that.

Interesting how she is a dancer so she could get any number of guys from her job in after hours play but she specifically mentions she doesn't want to escort. So if I am reading her profile right she is looking for more than a quick FC. More traditional SB- hang out, go places and do things together then fun after.

If that's the case she already knows her 'value' I wouldn't touch the money subject until I met her and got a good feeling of what she is truly looking for. She might just be that true SB with a real kink.

PH.

[QUOTE=PinHead11;5716593]Seriously- I would take the day off work in the blink of a eye for that.

Interesting how she is a dancer so she could get any number of guys from her job in after hours play but she specifically mentions she doesn't want to escort. So if I am reading her profile right she is looking for more than a quick FC. More traditional SB- hang out, go places and do things together then fun after.

If that's the case she already knows her 'value' I wouldn't touch the money subject until I met her and got a good feeling of what she is truly looking for. She might just be that true SB with a real kink.

PH.[/QUOTE]Like anything else, your value is what the market will offer. I see guitars occasionally and know that what I think and what is offered as a fair price is dependent on the buyer. Too many of these girls brag that they know their worth, when they don't even know the competition. Usually it's the mediocre looking ones with the worst attitude. Just like a girl wearing 50 $ of Walmart clothing telling me she likes the finer things in life. When she probably can't tell the difference between champagne and dishwasher soap.

[QUOTE=Mg995;5712308]There are a lot of thieves on there. I learned the hard way and was ripped off twice when I first started and was naive. Besides hiding your money or not leaving it unattended when you go to the bathroom another thing is don't ever pay up front even at your place or in a hotel. They can always take the money, get ready to leave, and say they will scream and accuse you of something if you prevent them from leaving with the money. If they insist maybe show them you have the money and tell them you were ripped off before when handing money over at the beginning. It's better for them to leave without you getting any action than to risk being ripped off.[/QUOTE]Love this advice and used it last night. Had a girl that wanted me to come to her place last night. She added new pics and she looked about 25 lbs thinner than her first group of pics. So, I'm thinking chemical demons. She also kept telling me up about how great I was and that she was there to make me happy. So, another warning sign. Starting to sound too good to be true.

I go to her address and it's really a bad area, next to a bad town with very high crime rates. I was like, this can go real bad and my inner voice was screaming that I need to get out of there. I also have a relatively expensive car and didn't want it stolen. I text her that I wasn't going to leave my car there and if she wanted to see me, will get her and go to a hotel, or she can meet me. She responded that she didn't have a car and was not just getting in mine.

I thought with my head, not my dick and I'm worried she's setting me up. I blocked her and went home. Enjoyed a night with my medical weed from the NJ dispensary and later, got a message from a girl in Philly that wants to meet tonight. So, alll good in the end.

Overkill418 that was a good move getting out of there. It's probably better she didn't get in your car. It might have been hard getting rid of her. For instance, I met someone at a seedy hotel in bad area and told her I would take her so someplace else. She got in the car and said she owed money and needed to bring it in the hotel first. To make it short, I ended up giving her $20 just so she would leave the car. I got out of dodge and a few minutes later she texts saying she needs more money. That was the last I ever heard from her, thank God.

[QUOTE=Mg995;5720271]Overkill418 that was a good move getting out of there. It's probably better she didn't get in your car. It might have been hard getting rid of her. For instance, I met someone at a seedy hotel in bad area and told her I would take her so someplace else. She got in the car and said she owed money and needed to bring it in the hotel first. To make it short, I ended up giving her $20 just so she would leave the car. I got out of dodge and a few minutes later she texts saying she needs more money. That was the last I ever heard from her, thank God.[/QUOTE]Hooked with a cool girl from SA who lives in South Philly. Today, she asks me to send 125 $ for groceries. I told her that I don't use any cash apps and can't help her until next week. Obviously, have meets with two others before I'm supposed to see her again.

Seems like many of the SA dates think that once we have been together a time or two they are entitled to ask for an advance at any time. I make it clear upfront that I won't do that LOL. I recently dumped a great long term regular for that bs. Now she's asking to get back together.

Runner.

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5720412]Hooked with a cool girl from SA who lives in South Philly. Today, she asks me to send 125 $ for groceries. I told her that I don't use any cash apps and can't help her until next week. Obviously, have meets with two others before I'm supposed to see her again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5720412]Hooked with a cool girl from SA who lives in South Philly. Today, she asks me to send 125 $ for groceries. I told her that I don't use any cash apps and can't help her until next week. Obviously, have meets with two others before I'm supposed to see her again.[/QUOTE]Does the grocery money request off-set her coolness or will you go back?

[QUOTE=Runner8;5721446]Seems like many of the SA dates think that once we have been together a time or two they are entitled to ask for an advance at any time. I make it clear upfront that I won't do that LOL. I recently dumped a great long term regular for that bs. Now she's asking to get back together.

Runner.[/QUOTE]I honestly think much of it is a control game. I did have one that I was seeing a few months, she asked me to cover her emergency dental bill. I did, thinking after a few months, why rip me off now? I also just lost my mom and was kinda distracted and thinking what kind of degenerate would try and scam me now? Well she ghosted after that. Another lesson learned. She actually called a few months later saying that she was sorry and felt so bad. She wanted to come see me and make it up. Then asked for 400 $ to cover her college tuition. I said no and blocked her. She started messaging me on Facebook, calling me from burner numbers, calling from her work phone ect. Begging me to take her back and that she learned that she needs to make amends and be a better person. All bullcrap.

Anyone have any info on Cyn? Seems relatively new but has been in this game before.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/87a8fc77-75a0-4bde-825f-471adea64718[/URL]

Have been chatting recently but nothing finalized. Will report back if I get more but looking for ppm and wanted some concrete numbers if anyone knew previously.

Philly is the dreggs.

If you can't confirm she's a legit single mom, a college girl or atleast has a car and drives. AVOID.

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5721496]I honestly think much of it is a control game. I did have one that I was seeing a few months, she asked me to cover her emergency dental bill. I did, thinking after a few months, why rip me off now? I also just lost my mom and was kinda distracted and thinking what kind of degenerate would try and scam me now? Well she ghosted after that. Another lesson learned. She actually called a few months later saying that she was sorry and felt so bad. She wanted to come see me and make it up. Then asked for 400 $ to cover her college tuition. I said no and blocked her. She started messaging me on Facebook, calling me from burner numbers, calling from her work phone ect. Begging me to take her back and that she learned that she needs to make amends and be a better person. All bullcrap.[/QUOTE]

Wow! Sorry to hear you had a girl stalking you on FB, calling from burner numbers, etc. Something like that is why I have a Sugar identity and why, to me, OpSec is so critical. Text / Voice App layered on top of a burner number is my approach. I find a wacko like that it's time to get a new App number. IF that fails, the Delaware River figures in the future of the phone and a new burner. Start over. Hope you can eventually lose this girl. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5722415]Wow! Sorry to hear you had a girl stalking you on FB, calling from burner numbers, etc. Something like that is why I have a Sugar identity and why, to me, OpSec is so critical. Text / Voice App layered on top of a burner number is my approach. I find a wacko like that it's time to get a new App number. IF that fails, the Delaware River figures in the future of the phone and a new burner. Start over. Hope you can eventually lose this girl. Good luck![/QUOTE]Yeah I did, she gave up. Haven't seen her on SA for a while, I just hopped back on this month. It's all good, I'm divorced, nothing to hide, was kinda funny seeing her go through such dramatics. She much have run out of marks to grift.

[QUOTE=Runner8;5721446]think that once we have been together a time or two they are entitled to ask for an advance at any time[/QUOTE]I learned this lesson with my first Stripper SB. We were cool at first then it was like a faucet. She wouldn't leave me alone. Even called the wife. Tg for cool wife. Any who.

Best app ever. I tell them I use it and that when it is on, I am playing. Cuts those calls down. Textfree. Us.

This is about SA profiles in particular. I've noticed a pattern where someone claims to be "new to the area", they are very attractive (so that's 2 red flags), are quick to reply to any contact and then, after just one or two exchanges, ask for your cell phone number. (3rd red flag). I don't have a burner or an app, so I usually ignore fast requests. Especially if they didn't view my profile (but I know you can stop those notifications if you want). Anyway, two days ago, one of them gave me her number (Boston area code despite the stated DE location) and asked for mine. Instead of ignoring her, I let curiosity get the best of me. I asked her where she was located and she was able to respond consistent to her stated location on the profile, but then I ignored her after that anyway and she blocked me. Yesterday, a very TBTBT candidate showed up and again, rapid response to exchange cell phone numbers and meet. I answered her request for my number by writing something along the lines of "I'd rather communicate on this platform at least for a little longer, if that's ok. " I was immediately blocked.

So my question is, What do they get out of the "scam" to get your cell phone number? Sell it to solicitors of extended car warranties? What else can be done if they simply have your number other than doing a reverse search and finding out your name, age and where you live? I'm sure I'm coming across as a moron but I thought I'd ask. Please be gentle.

I believe they are bots or scammers. A phone is valuable for scammers as they use them to send malware links to your cell hoping you will click on them.

You should definitely get one of the following- a burner phone, google voice, WhatsApp, or any number of texting apps. Using your real number is foolish.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=Pleck2;5727204]This is about SA profiles in particular. I've noticed a pattern where someone claims to be "new to the area", they are very attractive (so that's 2 red flags), are quick to reply to any contact and then, after just one or two exchanges, ask for your cell phone number. (3rd red flag). I don't have a burner or an app, so I usually ignore fast requests. Especially if they didn't view my profile (but I know you can stop those notifications if you want). Anyway, two days ago, one of them gave me her number (Boston area code despite the stated DE location) and asked for mine. Instead of ignoring her, I let curiosity get the best of me. I asked her where she was located and she was able to respond consistent to her stated location on the profile, but then I ignored her after that anyway and she blocked me. Yesterday, a very TBTBT candidate showed up and again, rapid response to exchange cell phone numbers and meet. I answered her request for my number by writing something along the lines of "I'd rather communicate on this platform at least for a little longer, if that's ok. " I was immediately blocked.

So my question is, What do they get out of the "scam" to get your cell phone number? Sell it to solicitors of extended car warranties? What else can be done if they simply have your number other than doing a reverse search and finding out your name, age and where you live? I'm sure I'm coming across as a moron but I thought I'd ask. Please be gentle.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5727566]I believe they are bots or scammers. A phone is valuable for scammers as they use them to send malware links to your cell hoping you will click on them.

You should definitely get one of the following- a burner phone, google voice, WhatsApp, or any number of texting apps. Using your real number is foolish.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Have a great weekend everyone.

[QUOTE=Pleck2;5727204]This is about SA profiles in particular. I've noticed a pattern where someone claims to be "new to the area", they are very attractive (so that's 2 red flags), are quick to reply to any contact and then, after just one or two exchanges, ask for your cell phone number. (3rd red flag). I don't have a burner or an app, so I usually ignore fast requests. Especially if they didn't view my profile (but I know you can stop those notifications if you want). Anyway, two days ago, one of them gave me her number (Boston area code despite the stated DE location) and asked for mine. Instead of ignoring her, I let curiosity get the best of me. I asked her where she was located and she was able to respond consistent to her stated location on the profile, but then I ignored her after that anyway and she blocked me. Yesterday, a very TBTBT candidate showed up and again, rapid response to exchange cell phone numbers and meet. I answered her request for my number by writing something along the lines of "I'd rather communicate on this platform at least for a little longer, if that's ok. " I was immediately blocked.

So my question is, What do they get out of the "scam" to get your cell phone number? Sell it to solicitors of extended car warranties? What else can be done if they simply have your number other than doing a reverse search and finding out your name, age and where you live? I'm sure I'm coming across as a moron but I thought I'd ask. Please be gentle.[/QUOTE]Several years ago there was an outfit called "Exposing Johns" that posted on CL & BP. They got dudes to respond to adverts and send texts about sex for money or sex acts they wanted to perform on the "girl", using their cell phone numbers. For those that could be I'd'ed through SM or other means as IRL people, the site posted their IRL name and phone number on a easily search engine found website. Nothing like a spouse, girl friend or potential employer finding your explicit texts on that website! But alas they were good guys and for $500 payment would scrub your information off their site! I see no reason why this kind of scam couldn't work on SA, after all women are free members.

Just because you haven't thought of a scam, doesn't mean the next oe isn't just around the corner. Feel free to monger for escorts or sugar babies using your real name & number. Just be prepared to suffer consequences.

One should follow the same "rules' as online mongering when on SA too.

[QUOTE=SpinnerPhun;5725486]IWe were cool at first then it was like a faucet. She wouldn't leave me alone. Even called the wife. Tg for cool wife.[/QUOTE]How did that happen? And the wife was OK with it?

Not sure how the OP does it without a burner but when you discuss allowance it should be off the site or else some disgruntled chic can report you and get you banned for talking about allowances and $$ A lot of the pros on there will quickly try to move you to text for the same reason. They have probably been reported before so they move off the site to talk $$ They don't want to waste time chatting it up if your allowance is too low or if you don't seem serious.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5727753]Several years ago there was an outfit called "Exposing Johns" that posted on CL & BP. They got dudes to respond to adverts and send texts about sex for money or sex acts they wanted to perform on the "girl", using their cell phone numbers. For those that could be I'd'ed through SM or other means as IRL people, the site posted their IRL name and phone number on a easily search engine found website. Nothing like a spouse, girl friend or potential employer finding your explicit texts on that website! But alas they were good guys and for $500 payment would scrub your information off their site! I see no reason why this kind of scam couldn't work on SA, after all women are free members.

Just because you haven't thought of a scam, doesn't mean the next oe isn't just around the corner. Feel free to monger for escorts or sugar babies using your real name & number. Just be prepared to suffer consequences.

One should follow the same "rules' as online mongering when on SA too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5727566]I believe they are bots or scammers. A phone is valuable for scammers as they use them to send malware links to your cell hoping you will click on them.

You should definitely get one of the following- a burner phone, google voice, WhatsApp, or any number of texting apps. Using your real number is foolish.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]I used Pinger. Basically a fake number for texting and in a pinch as a phone. When I was still married I buried it deep in a folder on my phone and turned off all notifications so a "new message" notice wouldn't pop up that my wife could see. And it has a block function, so if someone goes off the rails you can just block her.

Any info on SA Saint?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d26978e1-60dc-4bb8-9e8b-73913bb63610[/URL]

Messaged and immediately told me to text her at (610) 931-8796. So far $$ so kinda steep.

[QUOTE=KnowOne23;5728623]Not sure how the OP does it without a burner but when you discuss allowance it should be off the site or else some disgruntled chic can report you and get you banned for talking about allowances and $$ A lot of the pros on there will quickly try to move you to text for the same reason. They have probably been reported before so they move off the site to talk $$ They don't want to waste time chatting it up if your allowance is too low or if you don't seem serious.[/QUOTE]Met a smoking hot one in NYC. She only talks business via facetime or WhatsApp. Kinda like it, you know what your are getting and no proof.

[QUOTE=Pleck2;5727204]This is about SA profiles in particular. I've noticed a pattern where someone claims to be "new to the area", they are very attractive (so that's 2 red flags), are quick to reply to any contact and then, after just one or two exchanges, ask for your cell phone number. (3rd red flag). I don't have a burner or an app, so I usually ignore fast requests. Especially if they didn't view my profile (but I know you can stop those notifications if you want). Anyway, two days ago, one of them gave me her number (Boston area code despite the stated DE location) and asked for mine. Instead of ignoring her, I let curiosity get the best of me. I asked her where she was located and she was able to respond consistent to her stated location on the profile, but then I ignored her after that anyway and she blocked me. Yesterday, a very TBTBT candidate showed up and again, rapid response to exchange cell phone numbers and meet. I answered her request for my number by writing something along the lines of "I'd rather communicate on this platform at least for a little longer, if that's ok. " I was immediately blocked.

So my question is, What do they get out of the "scam" to get your cell phone number? Sell it to solicitors of extended car warranties? What else can be done if they simply have your number other than doing a reverse search and finding out your name, age and where you live? I'm sure I'm coming across as a moron but I thought I'd ask. Please be gentle.[/QUOTE]The "new to the area" and can't answer any specifics about the area things are definitely red flags. I don't think an out of town area code is a red flag by itself, unless she's saying she was born and raised here. Moving to text quickly isn't really a red flag -- I want to get them to text as fast as possible to stop wasting time and not risk losing their attention. I don't want to sit on SA all day waiting for replies. And I don't know why you wouldn't get an app -- Google voice is free and you could have a number in the time it takes to read this.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5728729]I used Pinger. Basically a fake number for texting and in a pinch as a phone. When I was still married I buried it deep in a folder on my phone and turned off all notifications so a "new message" notice wouldn't pop up that my wife could see. And it has a block function, so if someone goes off the rails you can just block her.[/QUOTE]Yes, the value of the App is you can block someone who goes off the rails. But in extreme cases, you just dump the burner and start over. Less of a headache than burning you IRL phone. But yeah, stuff like layering an App on an IRL phone works, until it doesn't. There are always ways to take short cuts with the rules.

Point is a very active poster here did what you did. Layered an App on his IRL phone. Problem was that often the App failed. Unfortunately the App failed while his SO was borrowing the phone and as a result he's no longer with us.

I know we all tend to take technology for granted and assume it always works. But if it doesn't, then one has to face the consequences. So it is easier to just get a cheap burner and layer an App on that. Seems to be the best OpSec we have these days.

Thanks for all the helpful feedback. I have a few other fish-on with SA and will relay findings when I get to the money part or something else useful. In the meantime, re SA profiles also being on other sites, someone from SA kind of sort of reminds me of an ad that is up every day from Fiona in NE PHL. I have checked this thread and there was some discussion of Fiona awhile ago, the gist of which is that -- even though her photos are dated -- she's still in great shape and is good company. Does anyone know if Fiona has an AKAs?

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5731521]Yes, the value of the App is you can block someone who goes off the rails. But in extreme cases, you just dump the burner and start over. Less of a headache than burning you IRL phone. But yeah, stuff like layering an App on an IRL phone works, until it doesn't. There are always ways to take short cuts with the rules.

Point is a very active poster here did what you did. Layered an App on his IRL phone. Problem was that often the App failed. Unfortunately the App failed while his SO was borrowing the phone and as a result he's no longer with us.

I know we all tend to take technology for granted and assume it always works. But if it doesn't, then one has to face the consequences. So it is easier to just get a cheap burner and layer an App on that. Seems to be the best OpSec we have these days.[/QUOTE]Agreed. If my wife took my phone (which is password locked) and really went through it she could have found the app and all the messages. Definitely a risk. That said, the existence of another phone, a burner, if found would have created huge suspicion. Not sure how I could explain away a phone. It could be effectively hidden I suppose, but that implies a trade off between easy access to Pinger and the risk of it being found on my IRL phone.

Thankfully I don't have this problem anymore since I split with my wife. I still use Pinger for my mongering, it keep it off my notifications and to be able to block / ignore pests.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5731677]Agreed. If my wife took my phone (which is password locked) and really went through it she could have found the app and all the messages. Definitely a risk. That said, the existence of another phone, a burner, if found would have created huge suspicion. Not sure how I could explain away a phone. It could be effectively hidden I suppose, but that implies a trade off between easy access to Pinger and the risk of it being found on my IRL phone.

Thankfully I don't have this problem anymore since I split with my wife. I still use Pinger for my mongering, it keep it off my notifications and to be able to block / ignore pests.[/QUOTE]5+ years ago when I was in SA and married, I only communicated thru email. I had a separate email that I logged into incognito on my phone and always closed the browser when done.

Fortunately single today so the past 2 years I've used google voice to communicate.

Been taking a break from SA for a couple months. The return on investment is terrible these days.

(for monthly membership and time spent).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d31cff26-32c8-4a17-99eb-354389275bd1[/URL]

Talked to this one both on and off the site. Things were going fine until she requested $600 a meet. I'm never paying that! Maybe you can talk her down. But I didn't even try.

And as far communicating with the babies and not getting caught by the Mrs. I just use the Burner app. This way I don't need a 2nd phone. Plus it's pass word protected so even if she gets my phone, she can't open the app and look at my messages. And if I want to me extra cautious, I hide my burner app in an app hider (the one that looks like a calculator).

[QUOTE=PiesOnlyPlz;5739589][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d31cff26-32c8-4a17-99eb-354389275bd1[/URL]

Talked to this one both on and off the site. Things were going fine until she requested $600 a meet. I'm never paying that! Maybe you can talk her down. But I didn't even try.

And as far communicating with the babies and not getting caught by the Mrs. I just use the Burner app. [b]This way I don't need a 2nd phone.[/b] Plus it's pass word protected so even if she gets my phone, she can't open the app and look at my messages. And if I want to me extra cautious, I hide my burner app in an app hider (the one that looks like a calculator).[/QUOTE]Good move! The more dudes who turn down 600 from these girls, the faster they will learn. $600 should buy you a 10 girl off Eros / Tryst who hosts in an upscale Apt or 5-star hotel and perhaps multiple hours at that.

Hey, just saying, but sounds like you are trying to convince yourself you have "good enough" OpSec!

Because you are new I'll relate the story of an App layered on an IRL phone. A prolific poster here did just that: GV layered on his IRL phone. Unfortunately the App failed frequently. One day his SO was borrowing his phone and one of his SBs called, the App failed and the SO was talking to the SB! Needless to say he's no longer with us. So yeah, that "can" work, until it doesn't. You are putting your trust in tech and hoping it doesn't "burp" at the wrong point in time. Don't do that over being "cheap" and not having to buy a second phone, a burner.

Also when I have thought I knew it all and had everything figured out, is when the hobby bites me in the azz. A few bucks in OpSec is sure less than a divorce and loss of 50% of your 401 K, etc. Just make sure, when you take a risk in the hobby that you are aware of the consequences, and willing to accept them when the risk goes against you.

Good luck mongering!

Met this girl, had meet up and she was all over me. We even planned a vacation in Costa Rica this summer. When we left the restaurant, she was swapping spit with me and saying how great I am and that she would see me asap. She was supposed to come over and the day she was supposed to, she ghosted. No responses, but still on the site looking. Just a typical goofball. She's on Levittown so just take her with a grain of salt.

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5740250]Met this girl, had meet up and she was all over me. We even planned a vacation in Costa Rica this summer. When we left the restaurant, she was swapping spit with me and saying how great I am and that she would see me asap. She was supposed to come over and the day she was supposed to, she ghosted. No responses, but still on the site looking. Just a typical goofball. She's on Levittown so just take her with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]Please don't tell me you gave her any money?

[QUOTE=Socalcasualguy;5740350]Please don't tell me you gave her any money?[/QUOTE]Ohh hell no. No allowance until you get on your back. Of course found her on Facebook in five minutes.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5740198]Good move! The more dudes who turn down 600 from these girls, the faster they will learn. $600 should buy you a 10 girl off Eros / Tryst who hosts in an upscale Apt or 5-star hotel and perhaps multiple hours at that.

Hey, just saying, but sounds like you are trying to convince yourself you have "good enough" OpSec!

Because you are new I'll relate the story of an App layered on an IRL phone. A prolific poster here did just that: GV layered on his IRL phone. Unfortunately the App failed frequently. One day his SO was borrowing his phone and one of his SBs called, the App failed and the SO was talking to the SB! Needless to say he's no longer with us. So yeah, that "can" work, until it doesn't. You are putting your trust in tech and hoping it doesn't "burp" at the wrong point in time. Don't do that over being "cheap" and not having to buy a second phone, a burner.

Also when I have thought I knew it all and had everything figured out, is when the hobby bites me in the azz. A few bucks in OpSec is sure less than a divorce and loss of 50% of your 401 K, etc. Just make sure, when you take a risk in the hobby that you are aware of the consequences, and willing to accept them when the risk goes against you.

Good luck mongering![/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice! I've met with a few other babies recently, I'll be posting some details soon!

I read 2 good reviews on them about "Lilly" with nice photos and a portion of her profile attached. Here's a different version of her profile, so you'll get the gist. [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/info_stats/2673694074.[/URL] This Lilly has also received good reviews on this thread, which is where I got the link from a discussion in June. Anyway, the portion of her profile on them ends with "ask me about my friend Naomi". Or something like that. So I texted yesterday, starting the message with "Lilly" and using it in a few subsequent texts while we made arrangements. I get there, it's clearly not the one from the photos, and she eventually introduces herself as "Naomi". Nice enough girl, but I never would have made an arrangement with her. So, if you want to meet the Lilly in the photos, be sure you pin her down in communications that she's not sending Naomi in from the bullpen. I'm sure I come across as a rookie to some on this thread, but it might help others. Good luck. I think I'm going to stick with EE and some SA. But that's getting tedious too. As this thread has hit on quite a bit recently. I'd rather save up for a nice hosted room with an EE caliber provider than walk through these minefields.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/340454fb-a310-4bc1-825f-75c264105f0b[/URL]

I contacted this one first on SB, then again on SA. On SB we chatted awhile and agreed to meet. After we shared our schedules she claimed she was unable to meet at any of the times that I was free, but offered to sell me pics and videos instead. I asked for one as a sample to see what I was getting but she wouldn't budge. No pics unless I pay. I said no thanks and text me if she has free time to meet. She said OK but of course I never heard from her. A week or two later contacted her on SA. Not sure if she realized I was the same one she chatted with on SB. Anyway, this time I let her share her schedule first. Amazingly she was free so we said let's meet. After going through some details about the meet she pulls the old "before we meet I'm going to need half so I know it's not a scam" out of her ass. LOL. She's, at that point I just say no way and stop chatting. I had another 2 or 3 oull the same shit. If I have time I'll post those too.

Fellow Mongers,

Been a while since I posted about a decent SB on SA. I have not had the best of luck lately but today hit a diamond in the rough. I am not willing to share a link yet until I ask her permission. She is my type, petite 5' 2", 110 lbs, dark hair br eyes, small boobs. We started texting this morning and by 11:30 I was balls deep. We negotiated for quick oral service for 1 bill, but once we got started and I wanted to sample more. She wanted 2 bills for safe play I countered with 3 bills for a non latex experience. I believe she needed it just as much as I did, so she agreed. As always, YMMV.

She is local in montgo county for you suburb dwellers and she drives. She definitely sounds and performed like a wild minx, very sloppy oral and very vocal. No trips to the islands but sounds open to a trifecta experience. I am seeing her tomorrow for another lunch quickie.

Be patient and diligent and things seem to work out.

Best of luck and Be Safe.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5748858]Fellow Mongers,

Been a while since I posted about a decent SB on SA. I have not had the best of luck lately but today hit a diamond in the rough. I am not willing to share a link yet until I ask her permission. She is my type, petite 5' 2", 110 lbs, dark hair br eyes, small boobs. We started texting this morning and by 11:30 I was balls deep. We negotiated for quick oral service for 1 bill, but once we got started and I wanted to sample more. She wanted 2 bills for safe play I countered with 3 bills for a non latex experience. I believe she needed it just as much as I did, so she agreed. As always, YMMV.

She is local in montgo county for you suburb dwellers and she drives. She definitely sounds and performed like a wild minx, very sloppy oral and very vocal. No trips to the islands but sounds open to a trifecta experience. I am seeing her tomorrow for another lunch quickie.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review and glad you find a quality SB. She sounds like my type as well.

Petite and willing to things for extra $$.

Hopefully proves don't go up once she gets popular from this site.

Fortunately I'm willing to pay for a months premium unless you want to.

Trade. I have a Russian "friend" not on SA. In Montco.

So I am up in NYC now, but I went on a date a ways back with a mid 20's sb, paisley / paisley lady / Ariel. Saw her on seeking up here, and thinking about messaging her and seeing if she wants to make an arrangement. Anyone have any experience with her? (I'll try to find a link to her seeking profile, but it seems gone).

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5748858]Fellow Mongers,

Been a while since I posted about a decent SB on SA. I have not had the best of luck lately but today hit a diamond in the rough. I am not willing to share a link yet until I ask her permission. She is my type, petite 5' 2", 110 lbs, dark hair br eyes, small boobs. We started texting this morning and by 11:30 I was balls deep. We negotiated for quick oral service for 1 bill, but once we got started and I wanted to sample more. She wanted 2 bills for safe play I countered with 3 bills for a non latex experience. I believe she needed it just as much as I did, so she agreed. As always, YMMV.

She is local in montgo county for you suburb dwellers and she drives. She definitely sounds and performed like a wild minx, very sloppy oral and very vocal. No trips to the islands but sounds open to a trifecta experience. I am seeing her tomorrow for another lunch quickie.

Be patient and diligent and things seem to work out.

Best of luck and Be Safe.[/QUOTE]Good work Burbs. I'm having no luck right now finding a replacement for my non latex lady. I just have to keep at it. Eventually, something will work out.