Any information on Rachel Southern Comfort?
Any problems with this young lady?
Reasons not to deal with agencies and pimps
[quote=stupidmale75; 1277814]i honestly don't know why anyone would care if anyone is a pimp, truly independent, with an agency or whatever? long as the girls are not rip offs i could give a rats butt! look for a girl you like at a price you like and just report on it. damn why is that so hard?
the way i look at it is this, wm or buddah or whoever else, all help bring in more variety so how is this bad?
let's move on![/quote]the way i see it, there are several good reasons not to deal with agencies, pimps, cyberpimps, drivers, madams, booking agents or pro, semi-pro or amateur helpers.
1) cost. while some of the people mentioned here, such as buddah, have always seemed to offer a range of prices, the fact is you're adding someone else to the mix. that's someone who generally wants to get paid, which has to raise the cost in the end. even if it just means the provider has to fork over a cut at the same price, she'll still need to turn more tricks to make the same money. in the end, that's probably going to mean less quality of service for you.
2) leo. agencies and their like get more attention from leo. just check the number of reports from cincinnati and around the country that deal with leo activity, and busts of agencies ranks just behind sws. and with good reason. busting an individual escort is retail for leo, but busting an agency provider offers the potential for bigtime wholesale action. first, they can try to get the provider to turn on the pimp. then, they can get the pimp to try to turn over info on the clients. you can net potentially a whole lot from one bust. we all had this same conversation earlier in the year when another newbie cyberpimp, brian, was operating. and we had the same cry of "who cares if it's an agency or not." then we had the arrest of brian and / or one of his girls (i guess. a little confusing who was involved) and drama about said provider for some reason trying to turn on buddah.
these folks are keeping some kind of database with a fair amount of info on clients. either in their phones, on their computers or even in their heads. they get taken by leo, and the physical evidence can be taken in the bust, and what's in their heads is available should they decide to bargain and leo decides it's worth doing a deal. procuring also opens up a new set of charges for leo to go after.
3) all in all, it's better not to be outnumbered. this hobby is, let's face it, a criminal activity with risks. the more people who get involved on the other side of the transaction, the worse your odds if something bad happens.
4) agencies give something that has a bad name a worse one. let me just say first off that there's no evidence that this has happened with any of the people who've been talked about on this thread. but in other places and other times, the cases that do go down where girls are brought into the country for prostitution, or **** providers are brought in, there's usually an agency and always some kind of handler involved. regardless of what you think about the import trade, this is also something that attracts extra attention from leo to the whole class of agencies, handlers and middlement.
5) along the same line, at least one "organizer" who's been written about in the local papers (see news reports section) is also a multiply convicted drug dealer who seems to be using his stable of providers to help bring in drug business as well. again, this is not buddah.
6) as nday said: "who cares if they are recruited as long as they are not abused or intimidated." again, i would invite people to read massive7's posts and draw their own conclusions on the likelihood of abuse or intimidation of the providers he's worked with. maybe it's just a coincidence that he praises them so highly and then after a while "discovers" some are drug users and thieves. now, say you're a provider who advertises on the board who is approached by massive7 offering his valuable service package, or you're one of his current providers. what would you think might happen if you said "no" or "i don't want to work with you anymore." and then we have a senior member who says he was threatened by buddah.
7) as nday said: "buddah's program has not caused rated to go up. in fact, he recalibrated a couple of ladies to expect the "market rate" versus what they were asking." as mentioned earlier, in at least one case he tried to bump a. 4 chatline girl to one of his $$ escorts. now, he says this provider, mindi, came to him rather than him recruiting her. maybe so. and that particular one didn't last long, for whatever reason. but it sure made the rate go up.
8) some hobbyists just don't want to deal with agencies and drivers, period. that's why they've got places for that on the review sites. this, by the way, is clearly not a review site. it's a bulletin board, where sometimes, if you try hard, you can find reviews.
