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Hey Gang,
Didn't mean to misinform anyone. Thought it was the CS in Phx. I may be wrong though. We frequented 3 different bars that day. I will Check with my buddy and confirm which it was when I have the opportunity.
To echo the opinion of aznoon though, I agree the Tucson CS is probably the best bar experience available. I have never had better in the states.
Thanks for the heads up robert.
D Dog
I spotted one my faves from CS on the street today. I had my boss with me... so, of course...oh well; you know...
Damn! Just my fuggin luck!
Alright man, will stick with it. But I think I am in love with Ashley. Damn!
CS is a wonderful thing, and worth preserving. It is like my beloved [post=508468]"The Bar with No Name" (TBWNN) in DC[/post]. We don't even tell newbies where it is or the real name of the place.
I grant that CS is already out there, but the girls who "will" should not be out there, so I advise you to be careful associating names with real action gentlemen. We can exchange names by PM, but these girls have a job which they could lose if it got out there that they provide extras in the VIP. I know Ricky North agrees, and I believe SH would agree. I think he would hate to have to be their private sugardaddy... Or would he?
Main thing => save some for me next year!
LoveLOS
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]CS is a wonderful thing, and worth preserving. It is like my beloved [post=508468]"The Bar with No Name" (TBWNN) in DC[/post]. We don't even tell newbies where it is or the real name of the place.
I grant that CS is already out there, but the girls who "will" should not be out there, so I advise you to be careful associating names with real action gentlemen. We can exchange names by PM, but these girls have a job which they could lose if it got out there that they provide extras in the VIP.
LoveLOS[/QUOTE]
LoveLOS speaks the truth. I've been to "The Bar With No Name" in DC (thank-you, unnamed host) and there is a reason it is not mentioned.
Same thing in Tucson. Discretion means putting two and two together and keeping your mouth shut. It's okay to talk about adventures, but some specifics are better left to PMs. Those senior members who know me also know that I share (when I can) in my PMs the details that can't be put into a post.
There is no reason to be so forthcoming with specifics so as to jeopardize a dancer's job. It's good enough to participate in the forum with all sorts of information (as I do), but leave out the hazardous secrets (those little bits of info you want to tell someone because you can't keep it to yourself) that might cause trouble for a provider. (i.e. "Let's call them Dancer A, Dancer B, and Dancer C" as I did in my post last week.)
One more thing to emphasize: I previously posted, "When I say, 'Service and prices available via PM from senior members' I mean it. I mean this respectfully...I only give out details to senior members because it has happened in the past (several times) that info has been provided via PM that resulted in police busts at various clubs in town. By limiting the details to senior members, it reduces (but not totally eliminates) the possiblity of you being a cop and turning the info into bad news for the dancer or club."
I am not responding to newbies. Sorry, but that's my policy so don't keep PMing me unless you're a senior member. (Senior members, I'm behind on responding right now, so be patient.)
Readers and lurkers need to read posts as only a monger can—extrapolating assumptions. Then go to the clubs and see for yourself and make your own reports.
By the way, in case you hadn't noticed, there is more than one club in this town. You'd never know it from the conversation on this board. I can report heavenly action at three other clubs in Tucson. I know this because it's my hobby!
Sexhobbyist
Visited the CS today but was pretty slow and took off after a beer. There was one guy that was getting alot of dances in VIP room which doesn't help me. Went to curves and had to pay a cover. Wasn't too bad. Got several dances from different girls. I guess I came near the chnage over, if it exist on a sunday, and for a while, there was not dance. Some more dancers came in later but I had to leave.
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]There is no reason to be so forthcoming with specifics so as to jeopardize a dancer's job...
...One more thing to emphasize: I previously posted, "When I say, 'Service and prices available via PM from senior members' I mean it. I mean this respectfully...I only give out details to senior members because it has happened in the past (several times)....[/QUOTE]Sage advise and honesty I was somewhat surprised when I started reading some posts and the details shared within. It is only common sense not to disclose the names of the ladies in an open forum. Seems like a sure fire way to dry up this entertainment option. No doubt a double edge sword for me as I haven’t achieved the exalted status of “Senior” yet but I respect the process and fully understand the necessity to protect the asset.
Hi everyone,
I've been out of town for the last couple of weeks on business trips. I miss my Tucson clubs and favoritas. 8^)
But I checked the forum just before my return yesterday and I'm concerned with the level of detail being discussed here. If we are not very careful we are going to cause our favorite places to get shut down.
I spoke with one of my regs while I was away. She called me to tell me she was worried. She is not computer literate, she doesn't know about this forum. She said that lots of guys were coming into the club and specifically stating that they wanted FS in the VIP and knew they could get it there. She mentioned that there was a dancer arrested in the club and some of the girls are getting very nervous. Understand that for every dancer that provides big extras there are others who don't. The dancers have to watch out for management, LE, bad customers, and some of the other dancers too.
If you are new to this hobby and you haven't frequented the clubs then you really need to be discreet and patient. Don't go up to the first dancer that offers you a dance and tell her you want FS. Most will not do anything with you if they don't know a bit about you and haven't seen you around. Take a few visits as scouting missions. Get some dances from a few different dancers and repeat with those who seem the friendliest to you. Take them to the VIP and see what happens after a few dances and a couple of visits or more.
There are extras available but this isn't a brothel. You need to be smart or we will lose this... and believe me I have travelled extensively and this is the best I've seen anywhere in the US for price and performance. Only some international places have been better. So remember you can get arrested, cause the dancer a lot of harm with management or LE, and our corner of paradise wil dry up! There are a few dancers, very few, who will do anything with anybody, sometimes the first time. Keep alert and you will find them. But most are discreet and concerned for their job and wellbeing, and they will provide extras only to those they trust. IMO these are the pearls to cultivate. The experience is better and I don't have to wonder if she is wet because she's excited or because she finished with her 4th guy in the last hour bareback just two mins before me. 8^) And if my dancer is discreet then we are both less likely to get caught up in some LE operation.
When I was in the club before going out-of-town a couple of weeks ago, some idiot whipped it out on the main floor. His dancer didn't know the guy and she didn't feel safe. She jumped up yelled for a bouncer and got the guy kicked out with a lot of fanfare and drama. Several bouncers and the manager got around this guy. He was in absolute shock. He is a fool. This dancer is almost always in the VIP and a pretty good time... if he had been smart and patient. She came over to me afterwards. We laughed about it and then I was the one who had a good time. If you want to be successful in this hobby over the long haul then remember: Be patient and discreet, be patient and discreet, be patient and discreet. AND treat the girls with respect.
k, I'm almost off my soapbox but here is my 2nd cent.
There is an air of nervousness with some of the dancers and I've got some PMs from senior members expressing concerns as well. I think we really need to be careful with our posts. Here's what I try to do: I don't like to divulge all three of the following information in a public forum...
x = the action,
y = the location,
z = the dancer's name.
I try to be detailed about only ONE of the three elements.
If I want to mention x then I try not to name y and never z. I'm most careful with z... when I do mention a name it is in generic terms like she's a lot of fun, or she's a sweetheart, how she looks, or one to get a dance with, etc. If I want to be specific about a dancer that was a bad experience, say as I did with the dancer a few months ago who kept leaving every other dance and trying to keep me waiting while she was in search of her drug fix, then I will post details and let senior members know that I will provide the name via PM.
Save the full specifics for PMs to senior members and / or with those whom you have met in person and have a good rapport. It would be great if we could post everything, but this is a public forum, not a private subscription. You have to assume that anybody and everybody (especially LE) is looking.
If you are not a senior member then be patient. Explore the clubs and post. Show that you have done your homework and can be trusted. Show some discretion. I have always been rewarded when I've worked this way.
As always YMMV, but this is an area that can impact all of us.
MythicBrew
[QUOTE=Aznoon]Sage advise and honesty I was somewhat surprised when I started reading some posts and the details shared within. It is only common sense not to disclose the names of the ladies in an open forum. Seems like a sure fire way to dry up this entertainment option. No doubt a double edge sword for me as I haven’t achieved the exalted status of “Senior” yet but I respect the process and fully understand the necessity to protect the asset.[/QUOTE]I thought most of the juicy stories ae fake.
[QUOTE=MyThicBrew]Hi everyone,
I've been out of town for the last couple of weeks on business trips. I miss my Tucson clubs and favoritas. 8^)
But I checked the forum just before my return yesterday and I'm concerned with the level of detail being discussed here. If we are not very careful we are going to cause our favorite places to get shut down.
MythicBrew[/QUOTE]
Fine Post MyThicBrew. Lots of good information.
However did you not submit a post on 2-18-07 entitled "FS at no charge!"
So, what is your point? I don't get it?
Its ok for you to submit explicit details about your encounters ... but nobody else can? That's bogus and hypocritical and you know it.
Not trying to be mean about it because we all get excited about a good visit to one of the local clubs, but common sense needs to prevail.
I have crabbed about disclosure of too many details in a number of posts. The most recent being post #322 on 1-22-07.
However, I am sure as hell not perfect either. After my last visit to a fine establishment in Tucson, I submitted a post which was also probably over the top.
I suggest a moratorium on any futher explicit details with the exception of pm's with trusted members. That will keep the newbies and the non-member clowns from gaining access to info that could (and probably already has) damage the local clubs.
DN
Hi Dick,
I respectfully disagree with you. I did post about FS at no charge. It was a worthy event IMO and worth posting. I named no names of dancers nor did I name the club. I disclosed only one of the 3 pieces of info, the action.
And I'm not saying I'm perfect, or the model, or whatever. I'm just stating what _I_ try to do to keep things hopefully a bit safer for everyone while still having a good discussion. Occasionally I may post more than I intend in the heat of the moment. But I do try to be careful. This is an active thread. That's a good thing! One some of my business trips I've checked and found almost no info. But here we have an active community. That's great!
Personally I'm glad we are talking about this and considering limits and ways to still divulge the info but not too much.
MythicBrew
[QUOTE=Dick North]Fine Post MyThicBrew. Lots of good information.
However did you not submit a post on 2-18-07 entitled "FS at no charge!"
So, what is your point? I don't get it?
Its ok for you to submit explicit details about your encounters ... but nobody else can? That's bogus and hypocritical and you know it.
DN[/QUOTE]
Was at the CS last Friday and met a dancer who posts here. Had an enjoyable time in the VIP, but when I emerged the place was really filling up. Didn't have the patience to wait through the competition.
I've noticed that I tend to sit in the chairs against the wall by the second stage. seems the ladies have to get by all the other guys before they work their way back there. Hummm. Should I relocate next time? Are there optimal seats? I guess I tend to pick the paraniod's seat where no one's at my back. LOL.
I got out to the clubs tonight. It is good to be back in town!
I noticed several new dancers. One in particular caught my eye. She is new to Tucson and worked previously at the Crazy Horse and Mitchell Bros in the Bay Area. If you have ever been to these clubs in SF you know they are pricey but pretty wild and anything goes. This dancer was hot and allowed a lot of action. She's a spinner with a great body and ass. Just how I like them. 8^)
Senior members can PM me for the name and location.
MythicBrew
[QUOTE=Dick North]I suggest a moratorium on any futher explicit details with the exception of pm's with trusted members. That will keep the newbies and the non-member clowns from gaining access to info that could (and probably already has) damage the local clubs.
DN[/QUOTE]Sorry Dick but your post really struck a nerve with me today. Nothing against you nor do I want to stir up trouble but I've just got to say this.
I've been around this forum longer than a lot of senior members (longer than you even) and because I don't add many reports I'm not a senior myself. However, anyone that does some homework can find my history. Now, will seniors share info with me? Not likely - not a senior member.
I certainly don't want to expose too much here which will get the good state of things to diminish around the clubs in this town but I also don't want to see this forum be castrated either. Discretion is the key to a good report and everyone should be aware that only a certain amount of detail should be provided in the open forum.
If we simply eliminate all the details then what good is this dialogue going to be?
Fellow Mongerers,
Just thought I would chime in. I as much as the next mongerer am on occasion guilty of perhaps going a little over board on the posts. I agree with all who have concluded that a certain amount of information sterilization should occur. I am certainly not for a moratoriam against open information. But it seems prudent to limit the amoun of open source data available to all and to leave the absolute specifics for PMs between members.
Although I must say the if Uncle LEO is actually monitoring this board for the purposes of an investigation you can be darn sure that they have warranted rights to look at ALL posts private or otherwise and they are doing so with out your or the sight ownerships knowledge.
All that said lets keep the hobby as safe as we can for all involved.
Gotta go got a trip to the CS planned for the early afternoon.
Thanks
D Dog