Older really can be better
[QUOTE=Literal2;1221427]I haven't run across anyone like this. The one 39 year old (thats what she said anyway) sb I've fucked was really slick and open in the pussy when her panties came off it is true and desperately wanted me to be the one guy for her, but she was very sugar focused and it took me a long time to get her to be reasonable about it. She was highly skilled though. Damn.[/QUOTE]Been busy lately so I haven't contributed much, but thought I'd confirm this, at least to an extent.
The last two SBs I've met were a mid-40's escort and a 50-yr-old nurse. The escort is probably THE best fuck I've ever experienced, consistently. Petite, super tight everywhere, skills for days, and an "honest digger" (see my previous post on classifications of women as sex partners.) But she's all about the sugar, and she's gone out of town a lot.
The 50-yr-old is purely in it for the sex. She's not looking for commitments or "dating", and other than my covering her gas when she drives across town to see me, she doesn't expect sugar tho' she does appreciate the occasional gift of lingerie or wine. She's got a bangin' body for her age and the fact that she's had multiple kids - obviously not the tight, toned body of a much younger girl, but there's a lot to be said for a body that's been well lived in, as she certainly knows how to use it, and a wonderful attitude makes up for a lot. Given a Megan Fox-style body occupied by a snotty, self-possessed attitude, or some sag in the tits and ass but real, honest appreciation for the fucking I give her, I'll take the latter every time. And on top of it she has a brain and can carry on an adult conversation.
The other 40- and 50-somethings I've met tend to match this 50-yr-old. Not all - just exchanged emails last night with a 43-yr-old blonde in VB, found on the SD4Me site, who's pretty attractive but made it clear that she's hurting financially and is all about the sugar - but a little careful reading of profiles and emails will let you weed those out.
The Hernando SB categories
Greetings everyone. I stumbled upon this thread by searching for a potential Russian rip off that was mentioned here (I think the girl is actually real). Anyway, I'm new here, but not new to the SD / SB scene. I have been on and off the SDforme dot com site for 4 years now. I don't bother to search for SBs in strip clubs, AMPs or Craigslist (now Backpage) areas, because these girls are truly either pro, lesbian, addicts, maniacs or plain unapproachable. Too much time for too little gain. These are great for the quick fuck, but nothing more. Having said that, Rhode Island is paradise for AMP or sc fucks.
Brief opinion on the thread title: amateurs or not? Someone posted the perfect definition and mentioned that the girls sway more or less to either side, which I find very true. I found and have been with numerous pro girls who use these sites to find new regulars (which they prefer over daily new ones) and immediately offer to meet at a fuck chamber with immediate start of "spoiling" (read: well defined donation) but I also found a 22 yo girl who just got on the site by recommendation and we dated exclusively for 6 months (well, almost exclusive on my part, ahem). I broke it off because her immaturity got on my nerves and she lived 150 miles away, killing spontaneity, otherwise this could have been a true LTR.
[QUOTE=Hernando; 1220881]I have thoughts about three mentalities of girls re:SB motivation and would be interested in knowing your opinion as well :
1) Young girls 18-30. Tend to be less personal about sex. The "hook up " mentality we read about that did not exist when I went to college (Damn it!) They are less likely to get emotionally invested and just enjoy fucking on a lark and out of curiosity. More like men. With as many as they can, and therefore are less likely to stick with one partner. ;
2) middle youth #1-39. Tend to be survival oriented. Usually have kids, and usually fall into my cat. 1 and / or 3.
And will line up as many SDs as possible for the income; and
3) MILFs 40 plus. Who frequently want a partner to play with. Usually one at a time-and not always into the money.
This is sort of a modification of my experience SBs to date. [/QUOTE]I found Hernando's post interesting, but have somewhat different experience. In New England, where I roam, I find the desperate woman in all age ranges, starting from 18 to 45, women who can't get their life together because they either really hit one hard time after another or, more commonly, never learned how to get it together or, also common, are plain uneducated.
I agree that the 18-25 range hooks up much more impersonally, but also gives it up much easier. Desperation seems to change from purely financial needs in the really young range to financial plus emotional desperation, because women between 25 and 35 start to realize that they are on a loosing track. The 35-50+ range finally is something I always wondered about, why they even start out on a site like that, until someone told me that they search for real dates and LTRs, but want someone successful, experienced, worldly, well off and without baggage. Makes sense. But that is the age range that I taste the least often. I am in my early 50s and I crave young pussy. 18 is just fine with me. My preferred range is 18-25, but I do venture out up to 40 from time to time, if the girl looks really good or, just as good, has big natural tits. There is no such thing as too big, there is only too small. .
I have 2-5 girls in contact at any given time when I'm active and get at least one date per week out of it, and up to daily if I push it (which I find rather exhausting). I enjoy the non-pro SB chase to some extend (it's a bigger feeling of success) and don't mind starting with a platonic date, take her out for dinner and chit chat. I am not good looking at all, balding, too much belly, but I am genuinely nice, smile a lot and make the girl the center of attention, listen rather than talk and I keep my word, which is a powerful persuasion. I am also upfront and honest ("whereas I understand that we won't hop into bed right away, I would be dishonest if I didn't admit that I do want a physical relationship". Gets me laid every time). If girls don't respond to my approaches, they find me too unattractive (or they are true gold diggers looking for $3g+ a month). I found that this approach puts them at ease and they almost always find me very nice, tell me that I'm way different than the average guy on that site. I'd say that my overall score is about 80% getting laid within the first 2 dates, if I don't break it off after #1. No serious money spent at that point in most cases. Sometimes I take them shopping but I never pay upfront for a lay unless the girl is really worth it (but never in cash, always through shopping or such).
I'll close my introduction with my latest SB, a 19 year old black girl who is 7 months pregnant (yumm! When she texted me to ask if her pregnancy would be a problem, I could hardly contain myself and managed to get a calm "not at all my dear" out). A couple more weeks and I will savor some dairy and I'm really looking forward to streams of that once she popped. Good looking girl, the firmest tits I've had in a while, tight, patient, good and deep oral skills and once she's done, she'll have her banging body back, which she showed on the site. Stays overnight with me for the equivalent of a pro donation. We text almost each day, she surprises me with sexy pictures and I wake her up with a "good morning, Sunshine!". A very promising start, looking forward to Saturday. <smile
Stay safe, be nice. You'll find me more often here.
AM Tech Advice. Please add to if, you feel I missed something.
First off, of many of the sites I've been on, it requires the most work and usually the most money per successful conquest. I've had more luck when I've traveled using AM, but not using the traveling man feature. It's important to have a full account.
1. Make sure to have a pic on the main profile, even if it's not yours.
2. Have real pics of you inside the keys section. Make sure to include a full body pic, clothe or nude, but do not show your goods and *Do not include a dic-pic. Even though everyone is there for sex, women like to the game to be such to where it's not so bloody obvious.
3. Read the profile, if it exists. Make sure your email to them includes something from their profile. Also include your email address and your keys.
4. Be funny and engaging in your first email. Women want a stress free and drama free experience. If you can make them laugh, then you are on you way to some "legs in the air" "funny sound making" hot hotel experiences.
5. Make sure you have a legitimate profile. I took to time to create a profile in word. Save it and use if for all sites. Modifying of course where necessary.
6. Unless she has seeking SD on her profile, show true interest in who she is as a person and her likes / dislikes. If she is seeking a SD. Then you don't have to work so hard on impressing her.
7. Pay attention, take notes if you need to. But make sure if you get a second chance to speak, that you use your notes to drive the conversation or as part of your flirting.
8. If she is married, always approach every meeting, conversation or phone call from the perspective of helping her keep her privacy.
9. Make sure to get out the majic words in one way or another, I recommend while in a joke. Example "no my friend, I don't smoke and I don't drink, I'm your typical nice guy, but if you let me, I'll do my best to screw your brains out". (of note. I did not use curse words.)
10. On AM you are outnumbered, always try to find a way to stand out.
11. Be responsive, but not stalker type.
12. Don't speak overt interest too soon. Give her a chance to tell a few stories and laugh some before you say things like."I like you, I think we'll get along well". Even if you don't mean it, it should be in response to her whimsical ramblings.
13. Finally, all women have insecurities. Make sure to affirm, listen and reaffirm. Make sure to sneak in compliments consistently. Have a mixture of the bold and the subtle. (Subtle Exampe: "I understand that you can get overwhelmed with the amount of emails, but it has to be even more so overwhelming when they can clearly see how pretty you are".
Another example: I was talking to a MILF of mine and we were trying to figure out the timing for the hotel stay. One of the scenarios required me to leave around 5am. I said "Do you really think I'm going to have the will power to get out of bed with you, with all that you have going on, at 5am in the morning. I'm not leaving until you are". Even she complimented me on that line.
14. Ok the real last point. Don't forget to make sure she knows your long range (after 1st date) plans are to make her toes curl. Don't forget that the woman wants to have sex too, but she want to think it's her idea, she wants to believe it's going to be good and she wants to hear in subtle ways that you think she is more than fuck worthy.