Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=BobbyLinn;4040781]Sometimes being an asshole gets responses and blowback from people that won't take the bullshit.[/QUOTE]You got that right, brother. Ms. Roger and her big mouth thought she could talk big from behind her keyboard -- ain't happening in Orlando, my friend!

[QUOTE=Admin2;4040877][BLUE]I've had a couple people write and ask me to stop these idiots. I'm not going to. If you don't want to read what they write the solution is simple, put them on your ignore list.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Geez, are all you guys up North whiny little beaches like Olive Oyl (RogerOver)?

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4040755]Doing what he should do ignore the trolls and they'll go away. [/QUOTE]I'm going away, but only out of courtesy to the rest of you. I know what it's like to have someone invade your space with a big mouth. So I'll give the rest of you a break -- I have served my purpose here -- I have shown Olive Oyl (RogerOver) to be the whining little beach that she is. Maybe now she'll think twice before invading the spaces of others, and acting like she owns the place.

Well Olive Oyl (RogerOver), it's been fun, but you turned out to be a MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT. All hat, and no cattle. All talk, and no action. Typical squid -- you're a very weak individual who should just stay the hell out of the fight threads, because you just can't hang with the big boys. You can't even handle a lost puppy that followed you home -- pitiful, just really sad and pitiful.

Hope you've learned your lesson now -- you messed with the wrong Marine, motherfucker! A2 tried to warn you at the start that this would have legs!

The game is no fun anymore. It's just way too easy to engage in a Battle of Wits with an unarmed little girl.

And oh, BTW, please stop PM'ing me asking to get together so you can suck my cock again.

In parting, to everyone else, I apologize for the interruption, but I would consider it a personal favor from one monger to another if from time to time some of you would keep referring to RO as "Olive Oyl" -- he deserves a lasting reminder of his misdeeds!

General question. Wasn't sure where to post given its not a report or review so chose here. How does Discrete Desire out of Dayton continue to operate? Its amazing they have been around as long as they have been.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;4043846]Weren't there some negative reports about Chloe recently? I've never met her but she's been on my watch-list for a long time based on the numerous and very positive reviews. I've searched the boards and I can't find anything recent about her, neither good nor bad. Wasn't there a rip-off or a no-show report recently, or am I having a "senior moment"?[/QUOTE]I think the moment that you are having should be coined a "non senior moment" as it relates to this forum. There have been about 20 reports here in the last 3 weeks that have included her name.

There was a report about the original cash and dash, numerous comments discussing it, Steve from EE chiming in that it didn't happen on his watch, comments about being dropped from the EE website, 3 reports from a member trying to help his favorite provider save face, and an extra report from same giving her a superior rating as a credit risk.

I have confidence in you Kanal1. Try harder and you will find them! The search function will help you.

But I'd give her a score of 690.

(See what I did there, I used real credit scoring in a sexual way. Way funnier than that yragyrag guy).

[QUOTE=Ceenote;4044078]I think the moment that you are having should be coined a "non senior moment" as it relates to this forum. There have been about 20 reports here in the last 3 weeks that have included her name.

There was a report about the original cash and dash, numerous comments discussing it, Steve from EE chiming in that it didn't happen on his watch, comments about being dropped from the EE website, 3 reports from a member trying to help his favorite provider save face, and an extra report from same giving her a superior rating as a credit risk.

I have confidence in you Kanal1. Try harder and you will find them! The search function will help you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4044159][b]I'm not an accredited ratings agency[/b]

But I'd give her a score of 690.

(See what I did there, I used real credit scoring in a sexual way. Way funnier than that yragyrag guy).[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's painfully obvious you're not accredited, because if she is a "cash and dash", then you would have given her a score of 069- that would have been way funnier!

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4044159]But I'd give her a score of 690.

(See what I did there, I used real credit scoring in a sexual way. Way funnier than that yragyrag guy).[/QUOTE]I did another search and, yup, all kinds of stuff popped up about the cash-and-dash. I don't know why I didn't find it the first time. Thanks for putting up with my stupidity, Guys.

I was searching once and apparently misspelled the name and didn't get any hits. Thankfully, someone pointed out the person I was inquiring about is actually a trranny. DOH!

[QUOTE=Kenal1;4044303]I did another search and, yup, all kinds of stuff popped up about the cash-and-dash. I don't know why I didn't find it the first time. Thanks for putting up with my stupidity, Guys.[/QUOTE]

I have a small rant. This is the worst I have seen it in my short time. On board. But damn Ghosting. Non answering. No showing. Drop off when answering right back. I mean just say ya can't for fuck sake.

Now it's like sales. I got to do 50 cold colds to maybe talk to 3. LOL. End rant.

I put this in the fight thread because it's going to seem argumentative and I don't mean it to, but I have to ask:

What 17 yr old goes to a massage parlor, gets a BJ, then tells mom?

Seriously, in what universe? Is the kid the son of Simon Leis?

WTF is wrong with kids today.

[QUOTE=GrayGhost;3673452]I live on Waycross just a few houses down from 899. I came home the other night and my neighbor was talking to Johnny Law so later when I was walking my dog I stopped in to see if she was OK? She told me her 17 year old son got a BJ from 899 and she is pissed! She also said the LLE have been getting complaints about the place and they are watching it. I have been there myself and they come right out ask you if you want a hand or BJ! With everyone on here spreading the word and them its just a matter of time before they all get busted! Take it for what its worth I would be very careful going there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4045981]I put this in the fight thread because it's going to seem argumentative and I don't mean it to, but I have to ask:

What 17 yr old goes to a massage parlor, gets a BJ, then tells mom?

Seriously, in what universe? Is the kid the son of Simon Leis?

WTF is wrong with kids today.[/QUOTE]Probably bragging to his buddies and someone's mom read the texts.

That's pretty likely.

[QUOTE=DaytonSteve;4046253]Probably bragging to his buddies and someone's mom read the texts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4046573]That's pretty likely.[/QUOTE]I'm sure you can with all the big providers but I know for a fact that the account owner can get text transcripts from verizon. Phones are usually in mom or dads name. Had a friend that got his 17 yo daughters transcripts and all hell broke lose, you can't even imagine.

I get tired of reading this crap. I'm the ACCOUNT ADMINISTRATOR on my VERIZON account. I checked into this about getting transcripts Of txts on my account. The only way you can is by COURT ORDER. No other way. No matter who you are or who you think you are COURT ORDER is the only way! Stop spreading false information. Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4047001]I get tired of reading this crap. I'm the ACCOUNT ADMINISTRATOR on my VERIZON account. I checked into this about getting transcripts Of txts on my account. The only way you can is by COURT ORDER. No other way. No matter who you are or who you think you are COURT ORDER is the only way! Stop spreading false information. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Trying to obtain past texts messages in transcript form you do need a court order because of the way that they are handled! BUT, as an administrator you can have all text messages from a minors phone duplicated to the admins phone, there is a fee for that service.

So I turn on my phone today at 5:40 this am and get a text from a number I don't recognize. So I figured at, I am sitting on my a $$ watching a manufacturing line on a fresh install test. I text back figuring its a wrong#. It takes 6 hours to figure out it was a provider I texted almost 2 months ago! She played it off that I texted her last night! My phone isn't on after 9 pm which doesn't coincide with the time send said!

Has anyone else had this happen?

[QUOTE=YUM69;3942319]I PM'd you about references. Just a heads up, in another forum it was revealed that Divine Rachel's rates have gone up in the last week or so. Good luck and be safe.[/QUOTE]Saw her for the first time recently after having her on the bucket list fo several years. Had the the one hour rub with standard ending. Her body is so good it's almost cartoonish. I disagree with one post that implied she is heavier than described. She just isn't a spinner. Otherwise one of the best bodies I've seen. Very sexy and a great personality. She has since shared what is available for expanded menu, with pricing, which are available after first visit, both solo and with Eva. The pricing was more than what I spend in the hobby. But excellent experience. Would definitely repeat.

It seems like in the spirit of the holidays, domineering uncles are willing to let their wayward nieces go free, which is good for everyone and allows for some welcome reunions with old friends. Just keeps me a little too busy and broke though. But I do appreciate the opportunity to spread the holiday cheer.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4055561]So I turn on my phone today at 5:40 this am and get a text from a number I don't recognize. So I figured at, I am sitting on my a $$ watching a manufacturing line on a fresh install test. I text back figuring its a wrong#. It takes 6 hours to figure out it was a provider I texted almost 2 months ago! She played it off that I texted her last night! My phone isn't on after 9 pm which doesn't coincide with the time send said!

Has anyone else had this happen?[/QUOTE]Yes and it turned out to be a pimp. So I told them not to call no more.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;4063386]It seems like in the spirit of the holidays, domineering uncles are willing to let their wayward nieces go free, which is good for everyone and allows for some welcome reunions with old friends. Just keeps me a little too busy and broke though. But I do appreciate the opportunity to spread the holiday cheer.[/QUOTE]Do share who those nieces are? LOL.

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4063747]Do share who those nieces are? LOL.[/QUOTE]Wants numbers shared or anything right now. They're still not in a position to host easily or possibly even do outcall unless it's carryout. God willing their time with uncle has convinced them to stay straight and their cash needs are more modest about getting some Christmas gifts, I hope, but, as I've said before, never willing to go out on that limb regarding substance use.

[QUOTE=KenwoodJack;4066253]Please [B][red]Do not be late[/red][/B] for any reason!
I am paying good money for your services. I expect your services to be on time.
If you are five minutes late, I will not stay. Period.
If I am late, let that be taken away from my total time.

I'll be showered and clean when I see you, I expect the same of you.

I am paying for your time. I am not paying to sit around. If you can't [B]give me your address (and the room number) an hour before our appointment[/B], don't make a date with me. I won't knock on the door until you text it's ok to come in. I plan for you to be on time. My time is also valuable. If you read my reviews, you will understand.

I was led to believe that BBBJCIM is on the menu. If it is not, please cancel our appointment.
Check me out. Just as I check out reviews of you, ask around about me.
Find out what I am like. Read my reviews (You'll find out what is important to me).

I expect [B]no perfume smells[/B], please try to [I]air out smoky smells[/I] as best you can.
I can't take home any smells.

I do not expect to pay for your time until I am almost ready to go.

Finally, [B][red]My name is not babe or hun.[/red][/B] That's for street-walkers.
For what I pay you, respect me and [B][red]call me Jack[/red][/B].

[U][i]IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE ABOVE, CANCEL THE DATE WITH ME![/i][/U][/QUOTE]Well stated as always.

CM513.

I've been trying to get a date with some of the higher end ladies and I keep hitting verification / reference roadblocks. I don't have a ton of experience but do have 2, what I thought, were solid references. They both came from Eros and both were higher end. Definitely not like the crackheads and heroin addicts on listcrawler. Both references have been declined because one is a traveling girl. Super hot Brazilian BTW, and the other doesn't have a ton of info online. Both have agreed to give me a verbal reference but the ladies don't seem interested in actually calling or texting them to verify. Why is this so damn difficult?

[QUOTE=HobbyNewbie197;4068986]I've been trying to get a date with some of the higher end ladies and I keep hitting verification / reference roadblocks. I don't have a ton of experience but do have 2, what I thought, were solid references. They both came from Eros and both were higher end. Definitely not like the crackheads and heroin addicts on listcrawler. Both references have been declined because one is a traveling girl. Super hot Brazilian BTW, and the other doesn't have a ton of info online. Both have agreed to give me a verbal reference but the ladies don't seem interested in actually calling or texting them to verify. Why is this so damn difficult?[/QUOTE]If I may ask, who is it your trying to meet up with. That might help.

[QUOTE=TapThat;4069255]If I may ask, who is it your trying to meet up with. That might help.[/QUOTE]Never do it.

[QUOTE=InAGaddaDaVida;4069279]Never do it.[/QUOTE]Most the ladies all are in contact with each other.

Steve screens heavily and I would think an okay from him would be worth 2 provider references.

[QUOTE=HobbyNewbie197;4068986]I've been trying to get a date with some of the higher end ladies and I keep hitting verification / reference roadblocks. I don't have a ton of experience but do have 2, what I thought, were solid references. They both came from Eros and both were higher end. Definitely not like the crackheads and heroin addicts on listcrawler. Both references have been declined because one is a traveling girl. Super hot Brazilian BTW, and the other doesn't have a ton of info online. Both have agreed to give me a verbal reference but the ladies don't seem interested in actually calling or texting them to verify. Why is this so damn difficult?[/QUOTE]

Steve at EE and Velvet Rayne have both verified for me in the past. You may have to lower your standards and see some other girls locally that will give verifications for you unfortunately.

[QUOTE=HobbyNewbie197;4068986]I've been trying to get a date with some of the higher end ladies and I keep hitting verification / reference roadblocks. I don't have a ton of experience but do have 2, what I thought, were solid references. They both came from Eros and both were higher end. Definitely not like the crackheads and heroin addicts on listcrawler. Both references have been declined because one is a traveling girl. Super hot Brazilian BTW, and the other doesn't have a ton of info online. Both have agreed to give me a verbal reference but the ladies don't seem interested in actually calling or texting them to verify. Why is this so damn difficult?[/QUOTE]

[b] This is how I feel![/b]

10. She finished her last appointment and was waiting to hear from one of her drug boyz before she gets dope sick.

9. She finished her last appointment and had enough money for her next fix so she did not fucking care about anything.

8. She finished her last appointment and now can pay the day's rent and have enough for the day's dope so she can take off the rest of the day!

7. It's too early in the morning, she has to go to the methadone clinic.

6. She is just waking up (2 PM) and needs her 1st fix of the day.

5. She has a regular coming in an hour who will help her out.

4. When she was in that other provider's room last night, she took $400 from her purse, so she doesn't have to work today.

3. She was barebacking one of her dope boyz. She was $10 short this morning.

2. She was eagerly swallowing the outpourings of a new hope-to-be regular.

1. ?

Any of you guys out there not getting answers to your initial texts for a date?

Sadly, I think the 'use by' [red][b]date on Kenwood Jack has expired.

Kenwood Jack is quite a scholar with his grasp of writing a great review in a very informative in the order and layout.

My favorit one is I'm sorry honey my phone was dead. I fell asleep. Your message didn't come through. I had a provider call me some almost 48 hours later and say I thought you were comming to see me.

When they don't reapond to I'm on the way, I look elsewhere. If the provider is really hot I may weight 15 min. Only 5 or 10 min on a marginal provider.

I always text when I'm on the way and 10 min out and 5 min out. When they say I'm juping in the shower at the I'm 5 min out; I politely say, sorry maybe another time.

I scheduled at least an hour a head of time ya had over an hour to wash your ass and pussy. My time is valuable.

These girls have no business sence cause it goes in there arm. A decent gal with a little since could have more business than they could handle. Treat the guys right, answer ya phone, wash the pussy and ass.

[QUOTE=KenwoodJack;4073517][b] This is how I feel![/b]

10. She finished her last appointment and was waiting to hear from one of her drug boyz before she gets dope sick.

9. She finished her last appointment and had enough money for her next fix so she did not fucking care about anything.

8. She finished her last appointment and now can pay the day's rent and have enough for the day's dope so she can take off the rest of the day!

7. It's too early in the morning, she has to go to the methadone clinic.

6. She is just waking up (2 PM) and needs her 1st fix of the day.

5. She has a regular coming in an hour who will help her out.

4. When she was in that other provider's room last night, she took $400 from her purse, so she doesn't have to work today.

3. She was barebacking one of her dope boyz. She was $10 short this morning.

2. She was eagerly swallowing the outpourings of a new hope-to-be regular.

1. ?

Any of you guys out there not getting answers to your initial texts for a date?

Sadly,[b][red] I think the [/red][/b]'use by' [red][b]date on Kenwood Jack has expired[/b][/red].[/QUOTE]

Can't get on as the server is not responding.

It may be a sad day the website may be gone.

And ladies scurrying. May get an influx of new ladies.

If you have any factual knowledge as to the status of the site.

Please chime in.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;4055561]So I turn on my phone today at 5:40 this am and get a text from a number I don't recognize. So I figured at, I am sitting on my a $$ watching a manufacturing line on a fresh install test. I text back figuring its a wrong#. It takes 6 hours to figure out it was a provider I texted almost 2 months ago! She played it off that I texted her last night! My phone isn't on after 9 pm which doesn't coincide with the time send said!

Has anyone else had this happen?[/QUOTE]Not the first to do this (texting pictures out of the blue) to me. Considering that I think she's got a nice body, I appreciate the pics. Others have done this too, and, personally, I find it exciting. They are obviously trying to drum up business, so I don't fault the intentions of providers who do this, but my guess is that this sort of thing might be an issue for other hobbyists. However, perhaps in a case when one has seen a provider before, as is true with Saffron here and in some other cases where I received sexts, perhaps this is thought to be more acceptable than times when a provider one has never met sends pictures that were not requested?

As for a text from a provider from a number you don't recognize because so much time passed between when you first contacted her, and when she replied, for me, the record has been a 5 month lag time between the request for an appointment and a reply asking if I was still interested in meeting.

It's not a secret that these girls are doing this to get a fix, and the moment they don't need you, you're nothing to them.

[QUOTE=AdamP469;4073980]Not the first to do this (texting pictures out of the blue) to me. Considering that I think she's got a nice body, I appreciate the pics. Others have done this too, and, personally, I find it exciting. They are obviously trying to drum up business, so I don't fault the intentions of providers who do this, but my guess is that this sort of thing might be an issue for other hobbyists. However, perhaps in a case when one has seen a provider before, as is true with Saffron here and in some other cases where I received sexts, perhaps this is thought to be more acceptable than times when a provider one has never met sends pictures that were not requested?

As for a text from a provider from a number you don't recognize because so much time passed between when you first contacted her, and when she replied, for me, the record has been a 5 month lag time between the request for an appointment and a reply asking if I was still interested in meeting.[/QUOTE]Mostly providers I know. Some of them are pretty nice pics, so I don't mind.

[QUOTE=OhioBoy1;4073730]Can't get on as the server is not responding.

It may be a sad day the website may be gone.

And ladies scurrying. May get an influx of new ladies.

If you have any factual knowledge as to the status of the site.

Please chime in.[/QUOTE]Don't have any first-hand knowledge, but rumor on Reddit is that it has suffered same fate as Backpage. I find that very hard to believe, given there has been no news of such a shutdown. The new owner is in Eastern Europe and the site hosted in Montreal, so it should be as protected against US legal action as is this site.

[QUOTE=AdamP469;4073980]Not the first to do this (texting pictures out of the blue) to me. Considering that I think she's got a nice body, I appreciate the pics. Others have done this too, and, personally, I find it exciting. They are obviously trying to drum up business, so I don't fault the intentions of providers who do this, but my guess is that this sort of thing might be an issue for other hobbyists. However, perhaps in a case when one has seen a provider before, as is true with Saffron here and in some other cases where I received sexts, perhaps this is thought to be more acceptable than times when a provider one has never met sends pictures that were not requested?

As for a text from a provider from a number you don't recognize because so much time passed between when you first contacted her, and when she replied, for me, the record has been a 5 month lag time between the request for an appointment and a reply asking if I was still interested in meeting.[/QUOTE]Man I forget how tight this young lady is. Pretty face fantastic body and such a laid back personality. When I first met her she was staying in a halfway house we did it twice in there after the first time I enjoyed her so much I encouraged her to get on USASG. I told her you'll make more money and meet a totally different class of men, at the time she was on backpage only. She now post almost exclusively here. No troubles nothing bad said about her hell mongers even got over her hallway (a little scary) but she's been a top notch cool ass young provider we need more like her. HL29.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4074353]Man I forget how tight this young lady is. Pretty face fantastic body and such a laid back personality. When I first met her she was staying in a halfway house we did it twice in there after the first time I enjoyed her so much I encouraged her to get on USASG. I told her you'll make more money and meet a totally different class of men, at the time she was on backpage only. She now post almost exclusively here. No troubles nothing bad said about her hell mongers even got over her hallway (a little scary) but she's been a top notch cool ass young provider we need more like her. HL29.[/QUOTE]Does Saffron still go au natural when it comes to body hair? I remember old reports that likes to keep natural unshaven hair in her armpits, Bush, legs, etc. Still true?

[QUOTE=OhioBoy1;4073730]Can't get on as the server is not responding.

It may be a sad day the website may be gone.

And ladies scurrying. May get an influx of new ladies.

If you have any factual knowledge as to the status of the site.

Please chime in.[/QUOTE]Not working here in Ohio, either for the Cincinnati or the home portal. Poop.

The good dr.

Even if it website is owned by a non US citizen and hosted on servers in a foreign country if the dot com domain is registered in the US or registered with a US based provider the domain is subject to US laws. In these could have moved to the Netherlands or Czechoslovakia.

[QUOTE=Phlasher;4074029]Don't have any first-hand knowledge, but rumor on Reddit is that it has suffered same fate as Backpage. I find that very hard to believe, given there has been no news of such a shutdown. The new owner is in Eastern Europe and the site hosted in Montreal, so it should be as protected against US legal action as is this site.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrDave39;4074474]Not working here in Ohio, either for the Cincinnati or the home portal. Poop.

The good dr.[/QUOTE]My source says it was voluntary and might be back in Feb. Just like happened here. But that is very preliminary info that I'm sure could change, or be wrong.

[QUOTE=HobbyNewbie197;4068986]I've been trying to get a date with some of the higher end ladies and I keep hitting verification / reference roadblocks. I don't have a ton of experience but do have 2, what I thought, were solid references. They both came from Eros and both were higher end. Definitely not like the crackheads and heroin addicts on listcrawler. Both references have been declined because one is a traveling girl. Super hot Brazilian BTW, and the other doesn't have a ton of info online. Both have agreed to give me a verbal reference but the ladies don't seem interested in actually calling or texting them to verify. Why is this so damn difficult?[/QUOTE]The Steve / EE is your best bet. If you're slumming on the skipthegames site you're risking life and limb. Not so much risking not getting a solid review, risking your own safety and / or mental health, since getting someone who actually matches their pics is about a 50/50 proposition on STG or even escortalligator or others.

If you're like me and you want a reliable pool of women to choose from but you also want to see their faces, you can always try [URL]adultlook.com[/URL]. It's sort of an in-betweener. Not quite as reliable as Steve's website but they do have face pics. Sort of a split the difference. Good luck! You can also PM me, I have a few good solid local providers you can see who will provide you with good referrals once you've seen them.