Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=HitNMiss;5063143]Stopped at Sunny this morning and asked for Joy. I was told she was gone until Thursday and she had a new girl. It turned out to be Coco. Normal shower, sauna and back to room. I offered $100 tip she right away said $140. I reluctantly offered $120 but she stood firm at $140 and was no way going to give in. I drove an hour to get there so I gave her the $140 because of the drive and don't get down that way very often. I know I should have walked out but the wrong head was thinking at the time. That's the last time I'm going to Sunny simply because of the price increase.

Coco does have a nice body with C cups but her personality seems to be lacking something. I don't think she is into her job as much as the girls over at Tiger. FS was provided and everything was covered.[/QUOTE]You know I will knock out just about any girl if her personality is good, I have had a couple at sunny going through the motions, I've had some that did the, act, and one or 2 there that had really gotten into it. It's a game we all play, but if I'm paying act like your enjoying it at least.

Had some old chick at 76 just terrible a while back, went soft I don't know if I was more disgusted about her or how she was wanting 140. Kyoto has been better but had a couple duds there too!

[QUOTE=HitNMiss;5063143]Stopped at Sunny this morning and asked for Joy. I was told she was gone until Thursday and she had a new girl. It turned out to be Coco. Normal shower, sauna and back to room. I offered $100 tip she right away said $140. I reluctantly offered $120 but she stood firm at $140 and was no way going to give in. I drove an hour to get there so I gave her the $140 because of the drive and don't get down that way very often. I know I should have walked out but the wrong head was thinking at the time. That's the last time I'm going to Sunny simply because of the price increase.

Coco does have a nice body with C cups but her personality seems to be lacking something. I don't think she is into her job as much as the girls over at Tiger. FS was provided and everything was covered.[/QUOTE]Just my recommendation, but there shouldn't be any offering or negotiating. I have never had to argue with a girl over a tip. I pay the house mama her fee, and then leave a $100 bill on the table by the bed. She never counts it and knows what to do. When we are done, they usually pick it up and thank me and nothing is ever said about the amount.

[QUOTE=OhioHunter;5065116]Just my recommendation, but there shouldn't be any offering or negotiating. I have never had to argue with a girl over a tip. I pay the house mama her fee, and then leave a $100 bill on the table by the bed. She never counts it and knows what to do. When we are done, they usually pick it up and thank me and nothing is ever said about the amount.[/QUOTE]That's what I did. Got back to the room grab $100 out of my pants pocket and laid in on the table. She said how much as she picked it up and started counting it. In other words she wanted the cash before performing. Trust me if you draw Coco she is going to count the cash you laid on the table first.

[QUOTE=HitNMiss;5065855]That's what I did. Got back to the room grab $100 out of my pants pocket and laid in on the table. She said how much as she picked it up and started counting it. In other words she wanted the cash before performing. Trust me if you draw Coco she is going to count the cash you laid on the table first.[/QUOTE]I agree, most want the money before, but I put it on the table as soon as mama leaves so when the girl comes in the room, it's already there and she knows it's on. Usually makes the shower experience better too since there isn't a question about what you want. Nothing is ever even said about the money. If she does pick it up and count it, let her know that's what you paid last time and that if she does a good job, you will come back and see her and give her more next time, LOL.

[QUOTE=OhioHunter;5066204]I agree, most want the money before, but I put it on the table as soon as mama leaves so when the girl comes in the room, it's already there and she knows it's on. Usually makes the shower experience better too since there isn't a question about what you want. Nothing is ever even said about the money. If she does pick it up and count it, let her know that's what you paid last time and that if she does a good job, you will come back and see her and give her more next time, LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree with both of you on this, actually. I always do exactly what OhioHunter has described here and put the money on the night stand the moment mama leaves the room with the. 6. I would say 50% of the time, though, I do get a small amount of push-back about the money before we get started. But again, I make the same play as OhioHunter and let them know that's what I paid last time and that is typically the end of the conversation. In the case of my encounter with Cookie at Sunny, she, predictably, backpedaled and repeatedly told me she could take care of me for $ as I was getting dressed. If I was into it, I would've laid back down and proceeded.

[QUOTE=HitNMiss;5065855]That's what I did. Got back to the room grab $100 out of my pants pocket and laid in on the table. She said how much as she picked it up and started counting it. In other words she wanted the cash before performing. Trust me if you draw Coco she is going to count the cash you laid on the table first.[/QUOTE]Perhaps Coco is testing elasticity of demand for her services. She is exploring how high she can raise her prices before demand drops off. If she can find enough customers to maintain or increase her overall revenue while selling less merchandise her profit margin per sale and overall improve. If on the other hand, she raises prices too much and her demand falls, she will lose money and either cut her prices or go out of business.

I concur with the other posters regarding negotiating. I never negotiate because I believe all I'm really negotiating is how lousy the experience will ultimately be for me. Who wants to fuck a woman who just learned she's not worth what she believes it is? Not to be confused with hate sex which can be quite good, actually IMHO.

Tonto.

At the risk of being a lazy ass hat, what's the lineup at Tiger these days? Going to be in town for a few and was wondering if it's worth making the trip. Thanks guys.

Tonto.

With any luck, someone on this forum will learn from your post. Always good to know the vocabulary and practical application of a particular subject. And using relatable examples helps drive it home. I once had an ex-wife that was taking a freshman college physics course. Just couldn't grasp the basics until I tutored her using sexually-related problem statements (e. G. , Bob is fucking Lisa and pulls out when he comes. With the following assumption, does the jizz land on her face? It was a huge hit and I should've hung onto those examples but pitched them when I kicked her out a few years later.

Point of this isn't to relate stories of my ex. It's to second Tonto Monger's advice of never negotiating with service providers. Set your offer based on research and stick to it. You never really "win" sexual negotiations. Now if someone tries to rip you off by asking for more, simply leave. Still a (somewhat) free country.

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;5066417]Perhaps Coco is testing elasticity of demand for her services. She is exploring how high she can raise her prices before demand drops off. If she can find enough customers to maintain or increase her overall revenue while selling less merchandise her profit margin per sale and overall improve. If on the other hand, she raises prices too much and her demand falls, she will lose money and either cut her prices or go out of business.

I concur with the other posters regarding negotiating. I never negotiate because I believe all I'm really negotiating is how lousy the experience will ultimately be for me. Who wants to fuck a woman who just learned she's not worth what she believes it is? Not to be confused with hate sex which can be quite good, actually IMHO.

Tonto.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;5066543]At the risk of being a lazy ass hat, what's the lineup at Tiger these days? Going to be in town for a few and was wondering if it's worth making the trip. Thanks guys.

Tonto.[/QUOTE]I just called. It's rainy day and had to cancel an appointment earlier, and I'm bored.

Line-up: Candy, Pepsi and Sophia (Sophia is new mama said. And she said that Sophia is better than Tiffany, who may not be returning.

Lady answering the phone said her name is CiCi (very hard to understand but patient and friendly. And makes an erotic teasing invitation to come and visit. I won't be back that way for awhile. P.S. I didn't ask about Cherry. I read in the forum she's in Virginia. Is she retired does anyone know?

[QUOTE=SlamT;5066567]With any luck, someone on this forum will learn from your post. Always good to know the vocabulary and practical application of a particular subject. And using relatable examples helps drive it home. I once had an ex-wife that was taking a freshman college physics course. Just couldn't grasp the basics until I tutored her using sexually-related problem statements (e. G. , Bob is fucking Lisa and pulls out when he comes. With the following assumption, does the jizz land on her face? It was a huge hit and I should've hung onto those examples but pitched them when I kicked her out a few years later.

Point of this isn't to relate stories of my ex. It's to second Tonto Monger's advice of never negotiating with service providers. Set your offer based on research and stick to it. You never really "win" sexual negotiations. Now if someone tries to rip you off by asking for more, simply leave. Still a (somewhat) free country[/QUOTE]Negotiation is a tool to come to agreed terms in any transaction. Monetary or other. Cars are not sold at sticker normally and you don't walk into most retail establishments and negotiate a price for goods. There is no book of whether you can negotiate or not. It's a person choice or a businesses choice. Hell I am in a business that I negotiate terms on prescription drugs and not every distributor I sell to gets the same deal. So by your definition I am ripping off the companies I sell to. I'm not a thief or a crook. I am paid salary and commission and by all comparison no different than a hooker or escort. All I will say is everyone is able to make a decision on what something is worth. It may be worth more to me than you. It may be budgetary restrictions, if that's the case don't spend on pussy. Rely on Lefty or Righty and save for your future.

[QUOTE=Grey14;5066573]I just called. It's rainy day and had to cancel an appointment earlier, and I'm bored.

Line-up: Candy, Pepsi and Sophia (Sophia is new mama said. And she said that Sophia is better than Tiffany, who may not be returning.

Lady answering the phone said her name is CiCi (very hard to understand but patient and friendly. And makes an erotic teasing invitation to come and visit. I won't be back that way for awhile. P.S. I didn't ask about Cherry. I read in the forum she's in Virginia. Is she retired does anyone know?[/QUOTE]She is far from new but, definitely a good time. If you like tits, she got a set!

[QUOTE=Grey14;5066573]I just called. It's rainy day and had to cancel an appointment earlier, and I'm bored.

Line-up: Candy, Pepsi and Sophia (Sophia is new mama said. And she said that Sophia is better than Tiffany, who may not be returning.

Lady answering the phone said her name is CiCi (very hard to understand but patient and friendly. And makes an erotic teasing invitation to come and visit. I won't be back that way for awhile. P.S. I didn't ask about Cherry. I read in the forum she's in Virginia. Is she retired does anyone know?[/QUOTE]Thank Grey14. The mama who answered the phone was likely She-she. She's as an average at best provider up until about 6 months ago when she got a promotion. She's pretty good looking and if you can talk her back into doing more than answering the door and phone she might be fun. Pepsi is on my no-go list. Candy is pretty reliable. And every time I see the name Sophia my mind goes back a long ways to Sophia at the old Blue Moon Spa who some guys swore was actually a dude. (She wasn't, but it was still pretty funny debating that one for awhile). If I can unfuck myself, I may TOFTT and see if she really is better than Tiffany. Of course I will report my experience.

Tonto.

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;5067056]Thank Grey14. The mama who answered the phone was likely She-she. She's as an average at best provider up until about 6 months ago when she got a promotion. She's pretty good looking and if you can talk her back into doing more than answering the door and phone she might be fun. Pepsi is on my no-go list. Candy is pretty reliable. And every time I see the name Sophia my mind goes back a long ways to Sophia at the old Blue Moon Spa who some guys swore was actually a dude. (She wasn't, but it was still pretty funny debating that one for awhile). If I can unfuck myself, I may TOFTT and see if she really is better than Tiffany. Of course I will report my experience.

Tonto.[/QUOTE]As someone else has already alluded to, Sophia is definitely not new, but before this current stint, I hadn't seen her in over a year. I find her to be above average in the looks department, and she has always given me above average service (always covered, although I've never asked for uncovered and she has never offered). I also find her to have a fairly sweet personality. I recall unfavorable reviews from others during her previous run, but I've enjoyed her every time I've had her, so YMMV.

Pepsi is also on my no-go list, and I've never met Candy. I'm mildly curious to give her a whirl, but I still might not if Sophia is there the next time I go, since I would consider her to be a sure thing. And I also remember Sophia at Blue Moon from back in the day--I never came across any of the talk of her being a dude, but that is really funny because I distinctly remember her husky voice as well as the fact that she always gave the best, strongest, manliest massages, bar none.

OK. I've RTFF and can't find detail on the experience with Pepsi. Just generalities of a bad visit. Anyone care to elaborate?

[QUOTE=Suter;5067265]As someone else has already alluded to, Sophia is definitely not new, but before this current stint, I hadn't seen her in over a year. I find her to be above average in the looks department, and she has always given me above average service (always covered, although I've never asked for uncovered and she has never offered). I also find her to have a fairly sweet personality. I recall unfavorable reviews from others during her previous run, but I've enjoyed her every time I've had her, so YMMV.

Pepsi is also on my no-go list, and I've never met Candy. I'm mildly curious to give her a whirl, but I still might not if Sophia is there the next time I go, since I would consider her to be a sure thing. And I also remember Sophia at Blue Moon from back in the day--I never came across any of the talk of her being a dude, but that is really funny because I distinctly remember her husky voice as well as the fact that she always gave the best, strongest, manliest massages, bar none.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NeighborGuy111;5070083]OK. I've RTFF and can't find detail on the experience with Pepsi. Just generalities of a bad visit. Anyone care to elaborate?[/QUOTE]Another review site gives Pepsi good marks for covered service. Erotic, playful and engaging. These reviews were pre-Covid. Maybe the market shifted or her friends left and quality performance dropped? Where I live, the AMP ladies have Zero interest in developing LTR client relations. It's more of a Clip Joint mentality Is that sort of attitude appearing in other places. And now Tiger? At the end of 2019, I may have met Pepsi in the hallway. Tiffany introduced me to the other ladies on the way out. My head was still spinning. I couldn't keep the names straight. All attractive mid-30's and up ages. The lady I remember as Pepsi had long hair back then or maybe wig, almost waist-length, I got a good vibe. But it's been a long strange year. Two different hobbyists putting her on No Go list is not a good sign. Gents what got her on the list?

Due to the spas classification with the state there is a potential shut down this week if DeWine pulls the plug on Gyms and Health Spas. I got to experience Covid over the last 10 days along with 17 others at my place of employment. Other than a three day headache and feeling like I feel down the stairs, I got thru it. 2 people ended up in ICU, most had mild to no symptoms. If any of my brothers out there ar er on HBP meds, be very careful, you are high risk for serious respiratory issues. You fellows may want to get that quick visit in because ed it may be a bit!

[QUOTE=NeighborGuy111;5070083]OK. I've RTFF and can't find detail on the experience with Pepsi. Just generalities of a bad visit. Anyone care to elaborate?[/QUOTE]She's on my no fly list because she tried to upsell me, service was average at best (and waaay below the bar set by Cherry and Cookie), she cut the time short, and tried to get away with a CBJ. As always, YMMV.

Tonto.

Much appreciated Tonto. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;5070412]She's on my no fly list because she tried to upsell me, service was average at best (and waaay below the bar set by Cherry and Cookie), she cut the time short, and tried to get away with a CBJ. As always, YMMV.

Tonto.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IOnlyCip;5066971]Hell I am in a business that I negotiate terms on prescription drugs and not every distributor I sell to gets the same deal. So by your definition I am ripping off the companies I sell to. I'm not a thief or a crook.[/QUOTE]I mean, to be fair. Big pharma is about as crooked as it gets, charging insanely more than something costs to produce, so that millions of people can't afford their meds. But hey, money is the language. You didn't invent the industry though, you just profit off it.

Passing by Tiger again next day or two, so time for another lineup check. Hard to understand MMS answered and informed me that Candy, Sophia and Pepsi were working. Sounds like Yumi has been replaced with another less than desirable provider. Hoped that Cherry Cookie or new talent might be present. Negative so I'm going to pass this trip. Bummed since I usually visit the big cat this time of year. Here's hoping Cookie will be back in January, as promised.

[QUOTE=SlamT;5072536]Passing by Tiger again next day or two, so time for another lineup check. Hard to understand MMS answered and informed me that Candy, Sophia and Pepsi were working. Sounds like Yumi has been replaced with another less than desirable provider. Hoped that Cherry Cookie or new talent might be present. Negative so I'm going to pass this trip. Bummed since I usually visit the big cat this time of year. Here's hoping Cookie will be back in January, as promised.[/QUOTE]Unless you insist on ass play, which Cookie is the queen, don't discount Candy or Sophia. They are both great providers and rank right up there with Cherry in my opinion. Saw Pepsi once about a year ago, not terrible and I would even see her again, although the service wasn't up to the standard of Cherry, Candy, or Sophia. I personally think Candy is one of the best looking providers I have seen. Sophia tries super hard, huge natural tits and a great massage too.

I would tell mama give me either Sophia or Candy, and still wouldn't walk out if Pepsi was the only one available. BTW, dumped loads in all of them, never a question, if that's your thing.

[QUOTE=OhioHunter;5072726]Unless you insist on ass play, which Cookie is the queen, don't discount Candy or Sophia. They are both great providers and rank right up there with Cherry in my opinion. Saw Pepsi once about a year ago, not terrible and I would even see her again, although the service wasn't up to the standard of Cherry, Candy, or Sophia. I personally think Candy is one of the best looking providers I have seen. Sophia tries super hard, huge natural tits and a great massage too.

I would tell mama give me either Sophia or Candy, and still wouldn't walk out if Pepsi was the only one available. BTW, dumped loads in all of them, never a question, if that's your thing.[/QUOTE]Candy is a pretty lady. I think she has a beautiful pussy! My favorite time banging her is on the shower table in RCG! That view is outstanding!

O'Hunter -.

I agree with you that both ladies are fine providers; I've had the pleasure of being with each and didn't hate it. I did a review of Candy just before COVID entered our vocabulary and received full BBBJ / BBFS. Just found her to be a bit mechanical and a lot less passionate than some. For example, wiping her mouth after we kissed, and mine after DATY. How many GFEs do that?

Sophia I had a couple years earlier, also sensual BB. Has some great pillowy D-cups that absolutely rock, that one, and overall was way more intimate and conversational than counterpart Candy. The problem is partly that I measure both against Cherry; how does anyone compete with that experience?

So thanks for pointing out to other members that my remarks weren't meant to discourage anyone. I'm just holding out til I get home and can take a trip into Manhattan. AMPs like NY All Wellness, Private Hottie, Asian Desire, etc. are in a completely different orbit.

[QUOTE=OhioHunter;5072726]Unless you insist on ass play, which Cookie is the queen, don't discount Candy or Sophia. They are both great providers and rank right up there with Cherry in my opinion. Saw Pepsi once about a year ago, not terrible and I would even see her again, although the service wasn't up to the standard of Cherry, Candy, or Sophia. I personally think Candy is one of the best looking providers I have seen. Sophia tries super hard, huge natural tits and a great massage too.

I would tell mama give me either Sophia or Candy, and still wouldn't walk out if Pepsi was the only one available. BTW, dumped loads in all of them, never a question, if that's your thing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;5070412]She's on my no fly list because she tried to upsell me, service was average at best (and waaay below the bar set by Cherry and Cookie), she cut the time short, and tried to get away with a CBJ. As always, YMMV.

Tonto.[/QUOTE]Of the current line-up, Candy is by far my favorite. Sophia has great tits, as others have mentioned but there's something about her sex-face that doesn't quite do it for me. Pepsi is hit or miss, in my opinion. My first visit with her, she told me not to cum in her and reminded me a few times during BBFS, which made me not able to cum at all. I told her the next time I come back, I want to CIP and she agreed. The second time I saw her, she still didn't want me to cum in her but relented after I reminded her of our prior agreement. I personally think she's a little better looking than Sophia, but not as hot as Candy. If CIP is a must-have, I'd suggest Sophia or Candy.

[QUOTE=SlamT;5072536]Passing by Tiger again next day or two, so time for another lineup check. Hard to understand MMS answered and informed me that Candy, Sophia and Pepsi were working. Sounds like Yumi has been replaced with another less than desirable provider. Hoped that Cherry Cookie or new talent might be present. Negative so I'm going to pass this trip. Bummed since I usually visit the big cat this time of year. Here's hoping Cookie will be back in January, as promised.[/QUOTE]Rarely in Warren area but recently passed through. All busy so I got Pepsi. Saw her once before. Gave her 50 extra both times and had BBFS with CIP. Years a go I'd see Mikki and always had BBFS without tipping extra. Where I'm at now I'm lucky to get a HJ. You guys have it pretty good here.

Any of the current Tiger or Sun girls rimming?

I wonder why is it so hard for them to get some new talent and ones under 50? LOL.

I know that the Tiger Spa is the better of the two but it is always busy anymore. I was hoping someone could tell the line up at the Sunny Spa and who to ask for?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Pete4444;5076059]Any of the current Tiger or Sun girls rimming?[/QUOTE]Same question.

[QUOTE=RickMann;5076295]I wonder why is it so hard for them to get some new talent and ones under 50? LOL.[/QUOTE]Probably difficult to get women agreeable to working 12 hour shifts, napping on a cot, eating fat old man butt all day long.

[QUOTE=RickMann;5076295]I wonder why is it so hard for them to get some new talent and ones under 50? LOL.[/QUOTE]I think younger girls don't want to take so much bare cock.

[QUOTE=CPGuy;5076881]I think younger girls don't want to take so much bare cock.[/QUOTE]The young hot clean ones work as escorts where they can make more money and less fucking. At the good old $100 tip, the spa girls got to fuck and suck 7 or 8 guys a day to make 400 plus. That is the split at best. Only 40 to 60 % of the tip they get for themselves, house gets the rest. A young hot escort can fuck a guy or two a day and make that money or more easy! So why would they want to be chained to a spa and have no other life. Candy, Cherry and Cookie are all on the high side of the split.

The less desirable get far less. This is the reason these ladies shoot for bigger tips = bigger splits. Also keep in mind food and cook expenses are all shared.

[QUOTE=CPGuy;5076881]I think younger girls don't want to take so much bare cock.[/QUOTE]CP, how many spa ladies do you estimate you have donated the baby batter to?

Tonto and Pete. Give Candy a go. She paid much attention with her tongue back there and even gave a BJ from lying on stomach. Seemed rushed up to party time. I want to give Sunny a try next time I'm there. Current lineup at Tiger is Candy, Sophia, and Pepsi.

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;5076406]Same question.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RickMann;5076295]I wonder why is it so hard for them to get some new talent and ones under 50? LOL.[/QUOTE]In the early 1990's and before we had mostly twenty year old divorcee's of military serving in South Korea. The number of military marriages to Koreans has dropped significantly. So no more young Koreans. In the late 1990's many of the young twenty year olds were here on three months travel visas from Korea. Big National crackdown on that. Not many young Koreans who'd want to work in an AMP. They're college educated second generation Korean Americans. Even in Toronto, pre coronavirus days I doubt more then 10% of the AMP's or escorts were Koreans. Mostly young recently arrived Chinese. That's just my take on why we're seeing fifty and sixty year olds. The ones thought to be thirties or forties. See one without makeup and you'll change your mind.

[QUOTE=NeighborGuy111;5077582]Tonto and Pete. Give Candy a go. She paid much attention with her tongue back there and even gave a BJ from lying on stomach. Seemed rushed up to party time. I want to give Sunny a try next time I'm there. Current lineup at Tiger is Candy, Sophia, and Pepsi.[/QUOTE]Thanks Neighbor.

[QUOTE=NeighborGuy111;5077582]Tonto and Pete. Give Candy a go. She paid much attention with her tongue back there and even gave a BJ from lying on stomach. Seemed rushed up to party time. I want to give Sunny a try next time I'm there. Current lineup at Tiger is Candy, Sophia, and Pepsi.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

Got there around 10:50 this morning to empty parking lot, a rarity. Called the VIP hotline at 10 to reserve Candy anyways. Usual DFK, BBBJ, BBFS, CIP. She's the best for me. She said they will start closing earlier with curfew.

[QUOTE=Crism080;5078863]Got there around 10:50 this morning to empty parking lot, a rarity. Called the VIP hotline at 10 to reserve Candy anyways. Usual DFK, BBBJ, BBFS, CIP. She's the best for me. She said they will start closing earlier with curfew.[/QUOTE]What was the total damage for Candy?

[QUOTE=Ampboner;5075289]Rarely in Warren area but recently passed through. All busy so I got Pepsi. Saw her once before. Gave her 50 extra both times and had BBFS with CIP. Years a go I'd see Mikki and always had BBFS without tipping extra. Where I'm at now I'm lucky to get a HJ. You guys have it pretty good here[/QUOTE]If you are interested in Mikki, check the Jackson Michigan board, before that she was in Lansing Mi. Never saw her but the tails from others are wild. I assume it is the same Mikki since she once was in Warren.