Wow I didn't know she was still around
[QUOTE=Tbroi2; 1520637]Ran into one of my favs from back in the day. Saw Rene today. She as looking good walking around. Had to pick her up. Standard tuition. Her BBBJ are one of my favs. Besides from Crystal. Had some rodeo action, followed by some K9, and finished with some mish. But here are some pics for why'all. Got digits for trusted senior members.
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]193283[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Didn't know she was still around is one of the"original SW Idols"
You found this girl on the street?!
[QUOTE=Crofton33; 1520699]I was coming up from Annapolis and decided to swing through CB. Several things out and about but nothing was making me raise my eyebrow. Headed on over to W / W and there was little out. The place looked like a sweep had just gone through. At that point I decided I would delve into my blackbook section of my phone when I came across a wonderful silohoutte of an hour glass shape. She didn't have yoga pants on, but still captivated my attention. Penned up with aggression I didn't even waste time to loop around her. I just went for the kill and I got my game.
Somehow after that my day got better. Digits are being with held by her chaice, but she does come out as needed. Storing these in my top three. Tuition is a negotiated secret (see and some of you thought I hadn't learned my lesson) , but deals can be had, its in all what you want. I would have taken more pics, but it wasn't a priority at the time.[/QUOTE]This is one of the best street finds I've ever seen in my life! She's better than most of what's on BP.
You deserve an award for this one.
Monger Metrics and the Art of Negotiation
At first, I wanted to defend Crofton. But, he's doing just fine holding his own. I'm going to rally around his idea but would like to put a different spin on it. This argument comes up about as often as the BB argument. The supposed commonality between the two arguments is one monger doing it can affect the many on the forum. I don't believe that particular line of logic in regards to money, though, and I'll get to why. A member once told me 'You get what you pay for. ' And that's mostly true.
There are over 270, 000 members on the USAG. On our very cute little Baltimore SW thread, there are roughly 350+ daily unique visitors (this is going on picture view counts). In the past year, there have been around 4 members (including me) who have openly stated on the forum that they have paid more than standard tuition for a particular service at a given time. I know of 2 members who customarily pay more for service (and they definitively get better service). So, that's about 6 verified out of about 350 Baltimore mongers who do it occasionally. That's less than 2 percent. And that 350 'aggregate' number is just the mongers who are on this board, who knows how many mongers are actually out there. But, let's stick to 350.
From what many girls have told me, they see somewhere between 2 and 20 mongers a day to make that $1 to $4 (above $2. 2 and you're already having a VERY good day for most girls). On the low average, (and we'll use that as our control number because there's not a girl on the fucking planet who would rather be out there doing this shit for a moment longer than they must) a girl might meet around 5 mongers / day or have 35 'sessions' a week. Of those, one monger MIGHT be someone like Crofton. And of that engagement, the Crofton type person MIGHT be willing to go above standard tuition. That means, on her end, she MIGHT have a 2% chance of meeting someone who MIGHT spend some serious duckets on her. That's a lot of fucking maybes, I mean 'mights'.
We lowly cheap bastards are part of the 98 percent. This particular 98% control the market, gentlemen. The 2% couldn't possibly see enough girls enough times enough days out of the week to make a noticeable dent in the entirety of the market culture. If each of those 6 guys saw a working girl from each fucking loop everyday paying $1. ++ for the next month, you would have an argument. Firstly, take me out of that equation because I ain't doing it. Secondly, they would all be broke as shit. But because of the forum's 'standard', we've had an absolute lock on the market for WELL OVER A FUCKING DECADE. There is no argument against that, gentleman. Not a fucking one. It is a monger controlled market. We ARE the market. To say otherwise is to cling to a poor logic slippery slope argument. We have verifiably kept the prices the same for 12 YEARS. You're worried about Crofton? Really?
Crofton, do what you do, man.
Let's go for a different angled argument. And it will seemingly defend Chrissy here (and it should, really). Do you think that someone like Kiara is going to take $.2 from you (this is a general forum 'you') to do the same beautiful stuff she does to me for what I pay her? You're out of your tiny little head if you think that. And she LIKES me.
For people who don't know how to negotiate at all, when you meet a SW for the first time, do not open with, 'Hey what's on the menu? ' or 'How much do you charge for _____? ' You immediately give away your opening bargaining position to them, and for what. For nothing. You gave them control of the conversation for zero gain. If I meet someone new, I say this, 'What will a $.2 spot get me? ' When I receive the answer, I move negotiations from that starting point. If their response is, 'I usually get ___ for ____' and it's too high, then I offer them to leave my car. And I stay within my budget just fine. I drive by girls that have too high of a monetary expectation and they know it. If I pick them up anyway, I tell them immediately what my concerns are. If they push the issue and get snotty and say something like, 'Why can't you go to an ATM? ' I counter with, 'Why the fuck can't you? '
Draw the line and stand by it, gentlemen. If you can't do that, well, I don't know what to say to you. I will tell you that it isn't Crofton's fault.
Punished, MsExsw is not here for the same reason as us. Read her posts. Some of us have seen her in a biblical sense. Neither Doe nor BK were being nice at all. I'm surprised some of the Super Seniors haven't buried them yet for that faux pas. There was no attempt to mitigate bad feelings regarding shitty providers or attempt to see her reasoning. They just went after her as a person. Guranteed, neither has ever dated her. They should reserve that vitriole to thieving/lying SWs that they know who deserve it. She has EVERY reason to be upset. Though normally good posters, DoeSurfer and BKMason's posts were very uncool. There's a reason there's a filter on the forum for calling women derogatory names. Attacking an ex SW for giving us insight into the girls' minds is invaluable and I, for one, thoroughly appreciate her posts.
Chrissy, you go girl.
On a side note, I know I'm guilty of writing weighty tomes but there's no need to quote the ENTIRE post if you have a two sentence retort. Delete some of the text of the quote. People can easily reference the link to the quote just fine. We're ending up with pages with 3 posts for crying out loud.
Could you present your theorem on the time space continuum next! Lmao!
Though lengthy I agree with the honorable monger and would humbly ask him to attack the debt ceiling and a real time reporting app for the hobbyist! Just kidding good post and Crofton; do what you do; everyone else do the same and we will all be fine!
[QUOTE=Rizalboy; 1521459]At first, I wanted to defend Crofton. But, he's doing just fine holding his own. I'm going to rally around his idea but would like to put a different spin on it. This argument comes up about as often as the BB argument. The supposed commonality between the two arguments is one monger doing it can affect the many on the forum. I don't believe that particular line of logic in regards to money, though, and I'll get to why. A member once told me 'You get what you pay for. ' And that's mostly true.
Shumann Resonances and Nicola Telsa
Nah, Just kidding! Picked up Crystal today, my favorite spinner. Standard tuition plus ten for cigs and soda. My balls smelled like roses. Crystal is my absolute favorite. Have to go back to Lori (El) from ten years ago to find one I liked better; or Niki from two years ago. Well anyone for subatomic particle physics in relation to gravity and time. Again thanks to Msexsw for the reminder of being kind. Always take the high road and watch your six; eh, Propilot.
Let's not reinvent the wheel
[QUOTE=Hargow20;1521622]I am always amazed how much cheaper the prices are on east coast and in the south. It's usually $30 min for a CBJ. The other odd thing is how hard it is to find a BBJ on the west coast.[/QUOTE]Get her in the car drive to your spot and give her 20; this is an everyday event. She'll ask for a tip; make her earn it. Jeez