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[QUOTE=OrangeGoku;7006653]I've noticed alot of the k girl ads have BB option for extra 40. It used to be extra 100. Is this summer pricing or are they desperate for cash and lowering rates?
Or am I misinformed?[/QUOTE]All about the money, probably an indication that a girl is not getting as much traffic as she'd like.
[QUOTE=GentleSun;7006244]Saw Erika last night. She's young, petite, pretty face, nice body with well done mms. Service was great. Solid BJ skills and a nice tight box. She got the second pop, which has been scarce for me lately. CIP and CIM. Return? Yes. $320 + $40 for x2.[/QUOTE]I also saw her & concur. HYA very vocal, loves DATY.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7006702]That San Diego has increased their kgirl options is awesome, and it seems they're priced to keep dudes local, saving them trips to OC or LA. White / Bona charging 330 bb in SD couldn't have happened a couple years ago, as the market wasn't ready for it; let's not forget she was 300+100 bb when she debuted as Ring in LA. And now we're here.[/QUOTE]Bona is on her 5th week in San Diego, with a 1 week break. We aren't letting her go. Come join me and gang up on her like true gentlemen. Treat her well. Fill her up.
She had a choice of city. She chose to come back. Someone is charming her and it's not me. Thank you whoever that is.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;7006894]Bona is on her 5th week in San Diego, with a 1 week break. We aren't letting her go. Come join me and gang up on her like true gentlemen. Treat her well. Fill her up.
She had a choice of city. She chose to come back. Someone is charming her and it's not me. Thank you whoever that is.[/QUOTE]IMHO I think it's the attention and amount of business she's getting that keeping her there. I doubt any single monger is influencing her decision more than my previous statement. That's good business acumen on her end though. I don't think she would get that much business if she returned to LA / OC considering how cutthroat it is here. Maybe if she kept her all-in pricing.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7006993]IMHO I think it's the attention and amount of business she's getting that keeping her there. I doubt any single monger is influencing her decision more than my previous statement. That's good business acumen on her end though. I don't think she would get that much business if she returned to LA / OC considering how cutthroat it is here. Maybe if she kept her all-in pricing.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong. With her triple threat of looks, youth, and service, she'd still be popular through SDAG, with their 280+100 rate structure. Whereas at 330 her popularity is arguably more sustainable.
In comparison then, Eleven at 300 CFS is a joke.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7006993]IMHO I think it's the attention and amount of business she's getting that keeping her there. I doubt any single monger is influencing her decision more than my previous statement. That's good business acumen on her end though. I don't think she would get that much business if she returned to LA / OC considering how cutthroat it is here. Maybe if she kept her all-in pricing.[/QUOTE]I don't want to speak for her but it's not just her, a ton of girls hate LA customers. Not all of them, just a lot of them. When you hear the descriptions, it's clear why. Something is very different in that market and also everyone is super bb obsessed even constantly demanding it from girls that are upfront no-bb.
I don't even bring it up, many girls say they will never work in LA again. Especially the ones that live in LA and come down.
Her all-in pricing is pretty important, because some people were just sick and tired of paying 420 when SKP / SAG was 320. You cannot figure out FEC's price without texting the booker. Even the booker tells me he doesn't know until the day she starts. And it will say 'special donation' and that could actually mean 'nope we changed our mind regular pricing now'. But they've fixed that since. If you can get Bona for 330 all-in, nobody is going to be able to charge much more. The next girl would have to be a better girl to get away with it.
Also, Bona certainly is special. People in OC were still talking about her weeks later. She got Boner certified with plenty of fans in LA as well. I think SD just doesn't see a lot of new girls like her. So that's her, not us. The last time I reacted to a girl like that was 10 years ago. Her name was Kiko.
Kiko was my very first kgirl at SDAG ever (aka Bunny). So I thought, wow, I gotta keep using this agency. No girl came close for a very, very long time. Maybe Bri, who the booker himself called one of the top girls at the agency. I think she was the only one that came close for years, and I saw lots of girls. Kiko raised my expecations too high. It took me many girls to answer the question of 'Is Kiko just really my type and I got lucky' versus 'Am I just getting a bad streak of below average girls?' I will say I keep detailed notes and the average girl has gotten better compared to 5-10 years ago.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;7007138]I don't want to speak for her but it's not just her, a ton of girls hate LA customers. Not all of them, just a lot of them. When you hear the descriptions, it's clear why. Something is very different in that market and also everyone is super bb obsessed even constantly demanding it from girls that are upfront no-bb.
I don't even bring it up, many girls say they will never work in LA again. Especially the ones that live in LA and come down.
Her all-in pricing is pretty important, because some people were just sick and tired of paying 420 when SKP / SAG was 320. You cannot figure out FEC's price without texting the booker. Even the booker tells me he doesn't know until the day she starts. And it will say 'special donation' and that could actually mean 'nope we changed our mind regular pricing now'. But they've fixed that since. If you can get Bona for 330 all-in, nobody is going to be able to charge much more. The next girl would have to be a better girl to get away with it.
Also, Bona certainly is special. People in OC were still talking about her weeks later. She got Boner certified with plenty of fans in LA as well. I think SD just doesn't see a lot of new girls like her. So that's her, not us. The last time I reacted to a girl like that was 10 years ago. Her name was Kiko.
Kiko was my very first kgirl at SDAG ever (aka Bunny). So I thought, wow, I gotta keep using this agency. No girl came close for a very, very long time. Maybe Bri, who the booker himself called one of the top girls at the agency. I think she was the only one that came close for years, and I saw lots of girls. Kiko raised my expecations too high. It took me many girls to answer the question of 'Is Kiko just really my type and I got lucky' versus 'Am I just getting a bad streak of below average girls?' I will say I keep detailed notes and the average girl has gotten better compared to 5-10 years ago.[/QUOTE]Pink Tomi Glow was also my first kgirl with AsianWorld and really was trying to chase her type for a long time. Booker actually didn't let me book her until she popped up under another agency in OC. LA and SD is too far for me. Anyway, basically saw her recently, 10 years after my first time. Great to catch up with her and her body was still fucking amazing. I think she got me addicted to fake tits, slim, petite spinners who let me fuck her extra deep. Not many girls like that and yes, she's older but she's a legend.
[QUOTE=Fuzion;7007206]Pink Tomi Glow was also my first kgirl with AsianWorld and really was trying to chase her type for a long time. Booker actually didn't let me book her until she popped up under another agency in OC. LA and SD is too far for me. Anyway, basically saw her recently, 10 years after my first time. Great to catch up with her and her body was still fucking amazing. I think she got me addicted to fake tits, slim, petite spinners who let me fuck her extra deep. Not many girls like that and yes, she's older but she's a legend.[/QUOTE]Same for me. Since you are a fan, I'll say in this past year the two most similar girls physically were Priva and Bona. Both skinnier than Tomi / Kiko (a girl that actually has a per-city name! For most guys, too skinny to be fair. Priva a bit anorexic while Bona still has her youth. Similar skin tone, cute style face, petite parts other than tits. All with a. Personality. After that there is Cherry who is also skinny with tits but white skin and quite different service (very good attitude and long BBBJ imo). Sassy. I doubt many remember Gemma from 8 years back but she was also like Kiko / Cherry but taller, wonderful attitude and similar body. That's it in my detailed notes. 5 girls of that type including Kiko, out of 70 girls. So I don't get my hopes up but it will happen. It's really clear I'm not the only one because these girls have all had many years of success (other than the obscure Gemma nobody else seems to remember). Not to say everyone likes that type but 5 out of 70 is not enough to satisfy our thirsts.
I have nothing against thick girls and know some guys want it. But it's more like 15 out of 70 are straight up thick, so they are over-represented in the market. To be clear, the ad photos never show a thick girl's true size. If she is very thick, the ad is just a little thick to be somewhat close. Never more thick. It's stupid because weight being off (getting a very thick girl you didn't want, or getting a super thin girl you didn't want) is a very common and easily solvable disappointment. And I liked some of the thick girls but it was always despite that, like they had a great attitude, had some skills, could take a pounding, etc.. So I hesitate to name and shame with a gallery of photos and how the photos are all much thinner than the actual girl. If it keeps up maybe I should because people are getting bait and switched on it for no reason. Wasting money when they could just see the girl they should have. If some guys like thick, show how thick they are. Great. Just stop trying to trick normal-loving guys into seeing them. All I'm saying.
Oh here's a funny story. I saw Pink or whatever her name was after Bunny on the roll call, using Bunny's photos. And although Bunny actually had real photos, back then most girls had completely wrong photos (every single other girl for a long stretch, actually). So I just thought they're making fun of me now, give me Bunny and I'll book her right now. Why recycle photos, I'm not falling for this bait and switch. I figured if it was Bunny they would just say so. To this day I have no idea why, I even asked Kiko and she couldn't offer a single idea why it happened.
Soon after Kiko stopped working SD / OC anyways in favor of LA. 10 years later I find out it really was her. Fuck me. That was my very first introduction to rebrands. I went 9 years of seeing girls before I ran into actual rebrands I had seen originally (as opposed to being told she is a rebrand of a girl I never have seen). But it's gotten more and more common. Rebrands are problematic.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;7007138]I don't want to speak for her but it's not just her, a ton of girls hate LA customers. Not all of them, just a lot of them. When you hear the descriptions, it's clear why. Something is very different in that market and also everyone is super bb obsessed even constantly demanding it from girls that are upfront no-bb.
I don't even bring it up, many girls say they will never work in LA again. Especially the ones that live in LA and come down.
Her all-in pricing is pretty important, because some people were just sick and tired of paying 420 when SKP / SAG was 320. You cannot figure out FEC's price without texting the booker. Even the booker tells me he doesn't know until the day she starts. And it will say 'special donation' and that could actually mean 'nope we changed our mind regular pricing now'. But they've fixed that since. If you can get Bona for 330 all-in, nobody is going to be able to charge much more. The next girl would have to be a better girl to get away with it.
Also, Bona certainly is special. People in OC were still talking about her weeks later. She got Boner certified with plenty of fans in LA as well. I think SD just doesn't see a lot of new girls like her. So that's her, not us. The last time I reacted to a girl like that was 10 years ago. Her name was Kiko.
Kiko was my very first kgirl at SDAG ever (aka Bunny). So I thought, wow, I gotta keep using this agency. No girl came close for a very, very long time. Maybe Bri, who the booker himself called one of the top girls at the agency. I think she was the only one that came close for years, and I saw lots of girls. Kiko raised my expecations too high. It took me many girls to answer the question of 'Is Kiko just really my type and I got lucky' versus 'Am I just getting a bad streak of below average girls?' I will say I keep detailed notes and the average girl has gotten better compared to 5-10 years ago.[/QUOTE]While I don't know the particulars, I have heard that LA mongers don't have the best reputation. Unless it's a majority of customers, I wonder why the girls just don't BL them. Interestingly enough, a few girls I've talked to say that SD isn't a consideration for them because the clientele in aggregate is much older. I do point out to them that SD is a very popular destination for retirees.
To be honest, I was thinking of seeing her when she came back as Emma recently but the eccentricity scared me off and I'm not a fan of tramp stamps either.
[QUOTE=Fuzion;7007206]Pink Tomi Glow was also my first kgirl with AsianWorld and really was trying to chase her type for a long time. Booker actually didn't let me book her until she popped up under another agency in OC. LA and SD is too far for me. Anyway, basically saw her recently, 10 years after my first time. Great to catch up with her and her body was still fucking amazing. I think she got me addicted to fake tits, slim, petite spinners who let me fuck her extra deep. Not many girls like that and yes, she's older but she's a legend.[/QUOTE]She was my ATF for a bit during the CV days when she was named Hara and when she was younger and more energetic. We clicked and fucked each other non stop all the time I saw her and she would try her best to make me blow my load multiple times. There were times where I was still fucking her at the door on the way out or eating her pussy out to make her cum at the door because we couldn't keep our hands off each other. I saw her last year and she still looked amazing for her age but her energy levels are obviously not what they used to be. She still remembered me and we had a good time but I would like to see girls much younger if I can.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7007112]You're not wrong. With her triple threat of looks, youth, and service, she'd still be popular through SDAG, with their 280+100 rate structure. Whereas at 330 her popularity is arguably more sustainable.[/QUOTE]SDAG's best girls skill-wise are no-bb anyways. So you can get a new girl at 380 or (in my opinion and clearly many others) the very best girl for 330. A lot of people are choosing the 330 girl. Others are even choosing the SAG all-in girls for 320. So the 380 is basically ballers who need the variety, and that's fair.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7006993]I doubt any single monger is influencing her decision..I don't think she would get that much business if she returned to LA / OC considering how cutthroat it is here. Maybe if she kept her all-in pricing.[/QUOTE]I will soon see her 10 times. But I'm not even top 3 guys seeing her anymore (I'll explain what happened someday). And yes she will keep her all-in pricing. First reason is it can't be beat and some of her top repeats are due to it. Second reason I'll tell my story.
I've recently quit bb in preparation for a new partner, got treated and got tested. By that point I saw Bona many many times, fucked her twice per visit on average always bb. But I got treated for my new partner just in case, and stopped by to see Bona again intending to do cfs this time. After a marathon 10 minute BBBJ of fucking her mouth we get to bed to fuck. I said "I need a condom today. " And she starts whining no. I beg her agian. She replies "No it's okay quick cum, you too big, condom need" (if you don't understand Bona it means do bb you'll cum faster, you'll be a bit too big with a condom on, btw I wrote down her wrods verbatim I have that memory)
So "Please today" I say. "Oh my god" she says in reply, I get that phrase a lot from her. I tell her I'll explain later as she gets the condom finally. I had to ask 3 times. She prefers bb if she knows it's an option. In case there is any doubt, on my next visit, I get on my knees on the bed for dramatic effect, it's my sense of humor I am a simp and own it. And I said "Please, I need a condom. " She must be S type because she refused 6 times, giving a reason each time. I begged her 7 times for a condom in total. The condom wasn't even on the counter like usual. She had it fucking hidden in a crevice and pulled it out. I think she enjoyed making me beg for it. I mean if you were a cfs customer to start she would not do this to you, never. She knew what she was doing. That's her sense of humor.
I admit I kind of enjoyed the brief humiliation. Just a little. She knows me pretty well now.
Oh what was my point again that's right. She is not going to do away with all-in pricing while in SD, it's been carefully considered in fact. And she's set her sights on SD, I asked her myself. To answer your point yes, it was not one single monger. Never meant to suggest that. But it certainly is the top 5 regulars seeing her 3 or 4 times a week. That doesn't hurt.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;7006894]Bona is on her 5th week in San Diego, with a 1 week break. We aren't letting her go. Come join me and gang up on her like true gentlemen. Treat her well. Fill her up.
She had a choice of city. She chose to come back. Someone is charming her and it's not me. Thank you whoever that is.[/QUOTE]So do you think Bona is going to stay in SD for good? No more LA or OC? I miss that little girl, and would love to visit her again, but SD is a long drive from LA. Probably won't be able to see her unless I'm already down there for another reason.
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7008735]So do you think Bona is going to stay in SD for good? No more LA or OC? I miss that little girl, and would love to visit her again, but SD is a long drive from LA. Probably won't be able to see her unless I'm already down there for another reason.[/QUOTE]Several weeks is my guess. She will stay as long enough people want to see her. She says she's happy here, I just take her word for it because it lines up with her actions.
But no one can know really. That's how the business always is. When there is a new girl the booker (multiple agencies) always asks me should they keep her or not. Not only did I say yes for Bona I said I would book her again soon. I knew several girls at the same agency who were planning to work a week or two but left on day 3. I liked them but one had clearly given birth which I found super hot but the belly wrinkles and tits probably turned off most guys. For me it is the hottest thing, I just loved running my hands over her tits and belly brings back memories. All I'll say about that. It is a brutal market.
Bona is not the only one focused on SD. Cherry had enough happy regulars to work SD nonstop for months without ever leaving - only girl at the agency allowed to do it. She's has been 75% SD 25% OC for years. She is basically an SD fixture.
There is a certain type of girl we don't have enough of in SD, so when that girl shows up fresh and 10-15 years younger - we pile on her. Kiko comes all the way down to SD to see her regulars too. Kiko is amazing but she is straight up more than 15 years older. I have nothing but good to say about Kiko she beats out girls 20 years younger who don't take care of themselves like she does. I'm just saying if a 17 years younger Kiko shows up..
SD has a huge AMP market and those guys stick to AMP because it is low cost so not a huge cost for disappointment. Some nice girls at AMP but not as much privacy or full shower to shower service, but you get your money's worth normally. However if there is a solid girl at a korg, the AMP guys will come just for her. That's what's happening too.
All three girls I described have the same body type, skinny, petite, tits. Cute face and/or amazing bbbj (Bona is both). I am literally splitting my money between the three with the bulk going to Bona, and ignoring most every other girl. I sometimes see other girls one time for the variety but those girls don't add up to my repeat visits with my favorites. I am not the only one like this.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;7008783]Several weeks is my guess...[/QUOTE]Cool. Thanks for your assessment. I'm going to root for Bona to come back to LA, but I know you'll be rooting on the other side. LOL!
Maybe she should try WLA. I think she would compare favorably to the likes of Ina, Nali, Lucy, etc. And I do think she would be busier, and make more money, if she went with the all-inclusive WLA business model when / if she returns.
I saw Tori a few times in the last couple weeks. Booker told me her new menu included COF and she squirts. Opened the door and she is tall and thin. Very sexy. Booker already told her I wanted everything so went right at it once in the room. Sloppy BBBJ and lots of BLS. Had her on top and riding pretty hard for her first squirt. Didn't disappoint. Extra towel was put down in anticipation of this. I wanted Mish so I could pull out and Shoot on her face. She took it like a champ, wiped her eyes so she could get every bit. I was spent. The second time was a bit better because I knew what to expect and got her to squirt in Mish so I could see it. Overall good English / body / attitude and service. Will repeat.
Luc.