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[QUOTE=Luckystonewood;4257081]And she is wearing a "Tilted Kilt" uniform. She looks good in it![/QUOTE]Looks like she got off the fence. She says she will make the 3 hour RT drive to see me tomorrow afternoon. Also, she locked down her seeking profile (put all her pics in private mode). Lots of hot txting, but I always keep that to the bare minimum. I hate spoiling the mystery. Just enough to make sure we like a few of the same things, so we can get straight to it when she walks in the door.

And just an FYI to the new guys. Friday is probably the worst day to expect a PYT to respond to you. These girls like to party (most of them) and hang with their friends on a fri or sat nite. Once you know them, a lot of times they will date you earlier in the evening so they can go out afterwards with their friends.

I read on here a lot but I'm not a huge contributor and I've been feeling guilty so I am going layout an SA strategy that I tend to use that works for me.

Old Strategy: A few years back I wasn't making as good of money so I would actually try to hookup with girls by investing the time upfront and just putting in the time. I would talk to a bunch of girls and at a certain point on a weekday I would say something like:

"Hey I am really busy with work this coming weekend so I can take you out for drinks and stuff NEXT weekend OR if you just want to come hangout for a bit and get to know each other, maybe order some postmates you can just come by and hang. BUT like I said if you want to just wait until next weekend, we can do this right and go out. ".

Nobody ever picked let's go out next weekend. They always were like "Oh ya that sounds cool" and I think that it took some guilt away because I didn't treat them poorly and THEY actually decided to come over, they picked that. So then I felt like when they came over. It was almost like an audition because I set the expectation that our real meeting was the following weekend, this sort of doesn't count. Of course 1 out of 10 I lost control because the girl was too hot and she asked for $300 and just gave me a below average BJ. For the most part it was a good way to keep young girls coming over giving myself constant at bats.

My New Strategy: I am doing better now financially so I just favorite all the girls that are my style (Big tits) LOL. I send a simple first message just to get a response. If I get a response I know it's going to usually be easy BUT like you guys have talked about. I stay away from Asians. I love them but they are too expensive here, you can get beautiful asians in Koreatown or Costa Mesa for $250 all day long so I don't even bother on SA. If I get an initial response I say:

"Hey my name is _ and I am wondering are you actually trying to get to know a guy, build rapport, and eventually hangout? OR are you just trying to get some Sugar asap? LOL. Either way is all good and I'm not judging, I just didn't want to bore you while you're just thinking I should cut to the chase. ".

I don't care what they answer. I will play to their answer and go from there. Even if a girl says option A. I just say "I totally get you, I heard guys can be a little aggressive on here and I am trying to build rapport too. Blah blah".

If it is Option B I assume they are pretty strapped for cash so I always start pretty low depending on how hot they are. And I always explain "How are am I going to throw out a high number when I have no idea if you're even good at what I like" its obvious where that convo gos from there.

1. Asians are expensive.

2. Pick up clues from their settings in the background of photos. You know what expensive bedding looks like or what cheap old bedding looks like, what a nice bathroom sink looks like, etc. If they are lower middle class you know what $150 means to them as opposed to an asian chick who attends UCLA.

3. I am actually respectful to them all, I don't ever say I am going to do something and then don't.

4. Once I see them once for fun I almost always wait for them to call me. They all reach out close to the 1st of the month when rent is due OR just before they are going to go to Coachella or leave town and need some spending money. If they are reaching out to me then I am keeping the offer low because these girls for the most part do this when they need it.

There is 1 Vietnamese / Mexican mix 20 year old with huge natural tits that occasionally I give way too much money to, but she dresses up and I video record her and it is my favorite. I never have had leverage over her because she was on the site for a couple days (we exchanged snapchat info during those few days of her trying out the site) and she said she changed her mind that she couldn't do that site, I stayed in it and just kept being cool and telling her "Hey if you ever are in a situation where you feel you need to go back on that site just give me a call and I will help you out. " took 4 months but I got the call. So although I have my strategies there has been girls on there that have had the upper hand on me too LOL.

[QUOTE=MrlbFun;4260108]I read on here a lot but I'm not a huge contributor and I've been feeling guilty.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post, I am sure there some other guys out there that could share some valuable insights / experiences / techniques as well.

[URL]http://www.fox5ny.com/good-day/-sugar-baby-describes-arrangements-with-men[/URL]

Will these types of interviews and news articles eventually lead to wider social acceptance of arrangements?

Let me first talk about price. I'm just an average guy making average money, but don't have a lot of expenses and don't really spend money except on pussy. I like to think I don't over pay, but to some what I pay may seem like a bit. Usually I'll pay between 40-140 for a BJ and 250 for sex. To some 140 might seem like a lot but for what I get and in comparison to other areas for the same service I think it's a good deal. Maybe I shouldn't say good deal as it's still a bit high.

For me I've noticed girls asking 100 to 200 for head. I've only done 140 with girls that are non rushed, making out, fingering and who let me record. I actually have a decent collection of BJ videos from girls I've met.

Now let's compare to other providers:(note I haven't partaken in other areas in awhile).

Sws: 40-60 for head and 60-100+ for sex. This is a girl you pick up off the street who most likely has had multiple partners that day. Semi clean. Most likely offers CBJ and of course covered FS. If course would you even want to go raw with an SW? Also service is usually rushed and in your car.

MPs: 40-50 entry fee, 40-60 HJ, 60-100 BJ, 80-120+ for FS. Usually rushed, totally covered, never know how attractive the girl will be.

BP and other services: BJ? Not sure never used BP for only a BJ. FS about 80-120.

With the above prices and services I can totally justify paying what I pay for girls I've met on SA.

My approach is kind of different and is definitely a reason I've been banned multiple times LOL. I honestly treat SA like BP. I kinda do it backwards a majority of the time. I'm relatively straightforward that I'm looking for discreet adult fun. If we can agree that we both want the same thing, I'll then change gears and start spending effort to get to know them and vice versa. Although there are times when I do the opposite and take my time to get to know them first. A lot of my approach is due to me being impulsive at times and wanting it now.

[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4260479][URL]http://www.fox5ny.com/good-day/-sugar-baby-describes-arrangements-with-men[/URL]

Will these types of interviews and news articles eventually lead to wider social acceptance of arrangements?[/QUOTE]I think in the distant past they were just called mistresses (if the guy was married). Or girls would say "I have a rich BF". Meaning they were getting paid.

[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4260479][URL]http://www.fox5ny.com/good-day/-sugar-baby-describes-arrangements-with-men[/URL]

Will these types of interviews and news articles eventually lead to wider social acceptance of arrangements?[/QUOTE]This sort of media attention is not good. Alerts and sensitises wives as to what is going on.

The attached graphic does not tell us anything we don't already know, or suspect. The difference being that this is the result of an actual survey. White men and Asian women are the runaway favorites in their respective categories.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4260854]The attached graphic does not tell us anything we don't already know, or suspect. The difference being that this is the result of an actual survey. White men and Asian women are the runaway favorites in their respective categories.[/QUOTE]This makes it some much easier for guys like me that love AA girls. These dudes don't know what they"re missing. LOL.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4256771]I really hope this one says yes. She is on the fence. Says she is not a hooker... just looking to get naughty. mid twenties mixed asain girl[/QUOTE]So this on the fence girl made the 90 minute drive to my house today. And I am so glad she did. She turned out to be a mixed / light skinned black girl. Not exactly my type physically, as I tend to the tiny hard bodied chocolate girls, but an amazing personality. College grad with a good job, smart and funny. We had a good first date in the FC, and I will most def be seeing her again this week. She has her own place so I am going to drive there late one night. She was far from a novice, but at 23 still just young enough to be in the game. She told be her first SD was the father of one of her HS friends when she was 18 and still a senior. My x SB/GF told me a similar story about fucking one of her friends dads a couple of months ago. I never did that, and way too old to have the opportunity now. But these guys got game.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4260919]This makes it some much easier for guys like me that love AA girls. These dudes don't know what they"re missing. LOL.[/QUOTE]The graph has an interesting result relative to your preferences. It says that black women are the only ones not to favor white men.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4261080]The graph has an interesting result relative to your preferences. It says that black women are the only ones not to favor white men.[/QUOTE]I think in general AA women like AA men, but this is L. A. The number of hot AA girls wanting older white guys is basically unlimited (for me anyway).

Had me a first timer last night, stayed the night, more in the morning, wettttest ever. . . So so so lovely.

It's just the best when there is never any discussion about it until they get home and realize there's a gift in their purse.

The epitome of sugar dating!

[QUOTE=RanManCan;4261597]Had me a first timer last night, stayed the night, more in the morning, wettttest ever. . . So so so lovely.

It's just the best when there is never any discussion about it until they get home and realize there's a gift in their purse.

The epitome of sugar dating![/QUOTE]Where are the pics? LOL.