Non Pro's

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5195635]How SA was described and what it actually is are 2 different things[/QUOTE]I wonder if that strategy is sustainable, the romanticized idea that SA peddles brings more women to the site which brings more men (who I think bring the bulk of their income). However to become a long term user of the site a guy has to bed a few chicks, which is much harder when most of the girls are expecting a platonic luxury experience with Richard Gere.

That rethoric I guess also help with PR but again business wise in the longer term not sure that it actually works

[QUOTE=DelToro;5197302]I wonder if that strategy is sustainable, the romanticized idea that SA peddles brings more women to the site which brings more men (who I think bring the bulk of their income). However to become a long term user of the site a guy has to bed a few chicks, which is much harder when most of the girls are expecting a platonic luxury experience with Richard Gere.

That rethoric I guess also help with PR but again business wise in the longer term not sure that it actually works[/QUOTE]I think what happens is one girl gets that one guy that pays a good amount and then other join thinking they will get the same, I have noticed around where I look which is up north a significant drop in girls in my search, I have my top age of 31, when I started looking 3 months ago there were more online in my search than I could message, now it is steady around 6. I also looked at all the ones I have messaged that haven't been active for at least a month as well as ones that said they were looking for what I would best described as a boyfriend and it is a significant percentage of who I have messaged.

One just told me that she has met with 2 guys since she joined the site 3 months ago and both said they wanted a long term thing and both went silent after she met them, she didn't say for sex but lets be real, she said she joined the site not to meet several guys but to meet that one guy she would see a few times a month for hopefully at least a year.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5197378]I think what happens is one girl gets that one guy that pays a good amount and then other join thinking they will get the same, I have noticed around where I look which is up north a significant drop in girls in my search, I have my top age of 31, when I started looking 3 months ago there were more online in my search than I could message, now it is steady around 6. I also looked at all the ones I have messaged that haven't been active for at least a month as well as ones that said they were looking for what I would best described as a boyfriend and it is a significant percentage of who I have messaged.

One just told me that she has met with 2 guys since she joined the site 3 months ago and both said they wanted a long term thing and both went silent after she met them, she didn't say for sex but lets be real, she said she joined the site not to meet several guys but to meet that one guy she would see a few times a month for hopefully at least a year.[/QUOTE]I think the PR is a good thing. Selfishly naive girls are fun to meet up with because they usually aren't too expensive / are fun.

Also, over the long term even for the girls, the ones who are semi-pro / experienced can still claim to their friends they are doing what the marketing material for SA.

I know they are a glorified escort, they know they are a glorified escort (the experienced ones), but their friends / family don't.

To me, this makes it attractive to more girls which leads to the buyers market it is right now, and the vastly superior services they provide compared to escorts. Like for me:

SA is.

Fun cute college girl, no condom required, 50/50 they are open to BB anal, 50/50 they are cool with overnights, genuinely seem to like me / enjoy spending time with me, no time limit dates, etc etc for 200-500 (I usually stick to 200-300 but will do more for the right girl).

Escorts are.

300-500 for jaded fugly mid 30's girl that hates her clients, is completely phoning it in, covered everything, only meets for an hour, acts like they are doing you a favor.

The only reason SA has the volume of girls to sustain this is because the girls "aren't escorts" and I'm fine with weeding through some trash to find the good ones.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5196588]Although there are a lot more women on SA and some incredibly good deals to be had. There is a lot of filtering that is required. Right now there are tons of online only, GPS and women with crazy stupid expectations.[/QUOTE]But some in this area will get it. I was chatting with a well-regarded TNA provider whose rates start at $$, enthusiastic but very safety. She said she has quite a few who book the same amount of time for $ $ $ $ $ and even much more. I've heard similar things from several others. There are a lot of highly paid low-social-skills men in this area.

[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5197394]I think the PR is a good thing. Selfishly naive girls are fun to meet up with because they usually aren't too expensive / are fun.

Also, over the long term even for the girls, the ones who are semi-pro / experienced can still claim to their friends they are doing what the marketing material for SA.

I know they are a glorified escort, they know they are a glorified escort (the experienced ones), but their friends / family don't.

To me, this makes it attractive to more girls which leads to the buyers market it is right now, and the vastly superior services they provide compared to escorts. Like for me:

SA is.

Fun cute college girl, no condom required, 50/50 they are open to BB anal, 50/50 they are cool with overnights, genuinely seem to like me / enjoy spending time with me, no time limit dates, etc etc for 200-500 (I usually stick to 200-300 but will do more for the right girl).

Escorts are.

300-500 for jaded fugly mid 30's girl that hates her clients, is completely phoning it in, covered everything, only meets for an hour, acts like they are doing you a favor.

The only reason SA has the volume of girls to sustain this is because the girls "aren't escorts" and I'm fine with weeding through some trash to find the good ones.[/QUOTE]Social media has been normalizing SA and it appears these college students see it as a viable source of income with no shame. Straight up flaunting the fact that they have a sugar daddy.

SA has killed the other board for me. A couple drinks seem to get the freak out of many of these girls. Treat them like a gf and they'll with you the GFE treatment.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/17699a0a-e689-408a-b12b-d62773895355[/URL]

Does anyone have experience with Kate? She favorited me and it seems that she's been on the site for a while. We've exchanged messages but she has rescheduled a couple of times already. I don't think that she's a scammer but perhaps a time waster?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c661a86e-eb09-4f9c-b2f0-6abb90b3a8af[/URL]

Seemed nice enough but when we got down to it I offered 250 she countered with 600. I thought that I was being generous at 250 considering her looks.

[QUOTE=KashMoney;5197850][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/17699a0a-e689-408a-b12b-d62773895355[/URL]

Does anyone have experience with Kate? She favorited me and it seems that she's been on the site for a while. We've exchanged messages but she has rescheduled a couple of times already. I don't think that she's a scammer but perhaps a time waster?[/QUOTE]Profile says she is in San Francisco now.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5196588]Good observation. That is correct. Although there are a lot more women on SA and some incredibly good deals to be had. There is a lot of filtering that is required. Right now there are tons of online only, GPS and women with crazy stupid expectations.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rousse;5197742]But some in this area will get it. I was chatting with a well-regarded TNA provider whose rates start at $$, enthusiastic but very safety. She said she has quite a few who book the same amount of time for $ $ $ $ $ and even much more. I've heard similar things from several others. There are a lot of highly paid low-social-skills men in this area.[/QUOTE]Sure absolutely. They are only doing it because they seem to be getting away with it. Could not agree more. Just not something I would do. That's all. Also completely agree with you. This area does have a lot highly paid low social sklls men - .

[QUOTE=Bronco62;5198597][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c661a86e-eb09-4f9c-b2f0-6abb90b3a8af[/URL]

Seemed nice enough but when we got down to it I offered 250 she countered with 600. I thought that I was being generous at 250 considering her looks.[/QUOTE]Big time gps! She's way too fat and ugly to be 600.

She looks like someone I saw on STG before anyone else think that.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dde81069-8ff1-4e7a-8320-62333a59b1a5[/URL]

Anyone else use multiple burners or other ways to have more than one untraceable number, how safe is google number or text now.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5198805]Anyone else use multiple burners or other ways to have more than one untraceable number, how safe is google number or text now.[/QUOTE]Yes, most of us use some sort of "burner" or texting app. There are several apps to choose from like TextNow or Burner. I know a lot. Of. People use Google Voice, but that links to a google account with maps and email and advertising. I don't want that much tracking linked to my burner.

How safe is an app? Safe from what? My main concern is having a girl track down my home or employer when she turns crazy, and an app is plenty safe for that. If you're concerned about law enforcement or a really good investigator looking for the sperm doner, you'll need more than an app.

To be completely secure, buy pre-paid phone with cash, pay for dinner dates with only cash. Use only your burner, or a VPN, to access this site or Seeking. I could keep going, but even this is probably more trouble than it's worth.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5198805]Anyone else use multiple burners or other ways to have more than one untraceable number, how safe is google number or text now.[/QUOTE]Sorry don't have an answer to your question but just my 2 cents. I use a few burner apps, with diff created emails and #s. I'm starting to not even want any of that shit on my personal phone. Thinking about prepaid flip phone or another smart phone just for pooning. Technology and tracking back 2 you is too scary in this day and age. IDK! Any tech guys here!

Is one site better than the other? It seems like seeking is usually the one referenced here. Also any tips how to sign up anonymously on the sites. Don't want things linked to my personal credit card.