Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=GMittent01;3992783]Bangkok for example. It's cool to have the idea of having sex for a low price but you give up the luxury of being in a good country. Like Southeast Asia and Bangkok was a shithole. Also there were too many go go bars with the name 'lucifers' or 'devils den' which made me really wonder if there some kind of demonic control over this territory and wondered if ghosts were watching me have sex, if you believe in that sort of thing. I would also have weird dreams at night in my hotel of a prostitutes grandma getting killed in front of the prostitute. It was just weird and I wouldn't advise to go to Bangkok again.[/QUOTE]Help me out here please. You are saying not to go to Bangkok because you had weird dreams and you didn't like the names of some bars? OMG.

[QUOTE=GMittent01;3992783]Bangkok for example. It's cool to have the idea of having sex for a low price but you give up the luxury of being in a good country. Like Southeast Asia and Bangkok was a shithole. Also there were too many go go bars with the name 'lucifers' or 'devils den' which made me really wonder if there some kind of demonic control over this territory and wondered if ghosts were watching me have sex, if you believe in that sort of thing. I would also have weird dreams at night in my hotel of a prostitutes grandma getting killed in front of the prostitute. It was just weird and I wouldn't advise to go to Bangkok again.[/QUOTE]I've been to Thailand about ten times and thought it was a beautiful country. I saw where Elon Musk says the only reason to go to Pattaya is to be a pedo, but that tells me he doesn't know Thailand. There used to be an expat bar called "The Wild Elephant" which was terrific.

Plopping at an outside bar, getting a cold disposable wet towel handed to you (to wipe away the sweat and get refreshed) while ordering an ice-cold Singha was the highlight of my day outside of fucking.

And the soapies? Jesus. Where's my passport?

[QUOTE=GMittent01;3992783]Bangkok for example. It's cool to have the idea of having sex for a low price but you give up the luxury of being in a good country. Like Southeast Asia and Bangkok was a shithole. Also there were too many go go bars with the name 'lucifers' or 'devils den' which made me really wonder if there some kind of demonic control over this territory and wondered if ghosts were watching me have sex, if you believe in that sort of thing. I would also have weird dreams at night in my hotel of a prostitutes grandma getting killed in front of the prostitute. It was just weird and I wouldn't advise to go to Bangkok again.[/QUOTE]You are just a font of bad information. First you shoot off your mouth about entry requirements in Argentina now you're calling Bangkok a shithole? Have you been to Detroit lately? I go to Bangkok every year and it's a great place to hang for a couple months. I look forward to returning every year until I'm physically unable to travel. Not just the pussy, the restaurants, the shopping, the people, I would go just for the great energy from walking around the different neighborhoods.

I moved this to the fight thread because this is bullshit that needs to be called out. Do you own a MP in Ohio or something?

[QUOTE=Admin2;3993338]You are just a font of bad information. First you shoot off your mouth about entry requirements in Argentina now you're calling Bangkok a shithole? Have you been to Detroit lately? I go to Bangkok every year and it's a great place to hang for a couple months. I look forward to returning every year until I'm physically unable to travel. Not just the pussy, the restaurants, the shopping, the people, I would go just for the great energy from walking around the different neighborhoods.

I moved this to the fight thread because this is bullshit that needs to be called out. Do you own a MP in Ohio or something?[/QUOTE]Bangkok is indeed a shithole, in areas. That may not be your opinion and that's fine, that's what it is. There are decent areas of the city sure. I've been there 5 times in the past 7 years. Beyond the traffic which is unbelievably horrible, the sanitation conditions in a large area of the city is deplorable. In the Chao Phraya large amounts of trash, human waste and I heard but didn't see, human remains have been found. I will say though the water available by tap seems to be exceptionally clean. I had no problems.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;3993596]Bangkok is indeed a shithole, in areas. That may not be your opinion and that's fine, that's what it is. There are decent areas of the city sure. I've been there 5 times in the past 7 years. Beyond the traffic which is unbelievably horrible, the sanitation conditions in a large area of the city is deplorable. In the Chao Phraya large amounts of trash, human waste and I heard but didn't see, human remains have been found. I will say though the water available by tap seems to be exceptionally clean. I had no problems.[/QUOTE]Here in BsAs there are awesome hookers, beautiful architecture, great food, nice people, beautiful parks and if you judged it all by Villa 31 it would be a third world shithole, these two pictures are about 5 blocks apart. Same same Bangkok, the vast majority is fine but if you go looking you'll always find what you seek.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;3993596]Bangkok is indeed a shithole, in areas. That may not be your opinion and that's fine, that's what it is. There are decent areas of the city sure. I've been there 5 times in the past 7 years. Beyond the traffic which is unbelievably horrible, the sanitation conditions in a large area of the city is deplorable. In the Chao Phraya large amounts of trash, human waste and I heard but didn't see, human remains have been found. I will say though the water available by tap seems to be exceptionally clean. I had no problems.[/QUOTE]Did you go to Pattaya?

[QUOTE=GMittent01;3992783]made me really wonder if there some kind of demonic control over this territory and wondered if ghosts were watching me have sex, if you believe in that sort of thing. [/QUOTE]And do you?

[QUOTE=TheStigyEh;3993711]And do you?[/QUOTE]If he does, I have SO MANY questions. LOL.

[QUOTE=TheStigyEh;3993711]And do you?[/QUOTE]I wonder if there is some kind of a ghost fetish where people get off being watched by ghosts. THAT's a kinky three-way! Could be a new avenue of marketing for haunted locales. Not to mention people offering "ghost tours. ".

BAM.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3993614]Here in BsAs there are awesome hookers, beautiful architecture, great food, nice people, beautiful parks and if you judged it all by Villa 31 it would be a third world shithole, these two pictures are about 5 blocks apart. Same same Bangkok, the vast majority is fine but if you go looking you'll always find what you seek.[/QUOTE]I'll bet I could post a similar comparison just a few blocks apart in Detroit.

Drive up Jefferson and cross Alter.

It's like crossing a time warp. Literally one block goes from hood to GP.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3994420]I'll bet I could post a similar comparison just a few blocks apart in Detroit.[/QUOTE]

Any of you old schoolers remember Buddha? That guy was able to find so many hot women. Had some great times with his girls. He was really intense, though. Wonder if he's still alive?

[QUOTE=GMichael;3998687]Any of you old schoolers remember Buddha? That guy was able to find so many hot women. Had some great times with his girls. He was really intense, though. Wonder if he's still alive?[/QUOTE]He quit to focus on family life with his kids.

First we were in south america. Where the pussy looks great and cheaper Then Bangkok. Now Detroit. How about some good Cincinnati pussy. Costs less than flying to those countries and Detroit. The pickings here are getting slim and costly. Thats for sure. But theres still new talent coming I will wait for them LOL Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=GMichael;3998687]Any of you old schoolers remember Buddha? That guy was able to find so many hot women. Had some great times with his girls. He was really intense, though. Wonder if he's still alive?[/QUOTE]CUPCAKE, SASHA He had some good ones.

This is or has to be one of the worst excuses. Sorry for the rant. It gets old.

[QUOTE=GMichael;3998687]Any of you old schoolers remember Buddha? That guy was able to find so many hot women. Had some great times with his girls. He was really intense, though. Wonder if he's still alive?[/QUOTE]He went legit. He is now a businessman with a legitimate business and focusing on family.

[QUOTE=GMichael;3998687]Any of you old schoolers remember Buddha? That guy was able to find so many hot women. Had some great times with his girls. He was really intense, though. Wonder if he's still alive?[/QUOTE]He was my go to. Really miss that.

Do you think Buddha and Poontang man miss each other? Those were some epic battles. I can't remember for sure but I think rant raves section was set up because of those two fighting constantly. Now I wonder what happened to Poontang man not only did Buddha hate him and want to kick his ass, all his girls hated him. Funny crazy shit back then very entertaining. HL29.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;3999094]CUPCAKE, SASHA He had some good ones.[/QUOTE]Hillbilly Bob you brought back memories of the Cupcake & Sasha Duo's I had back then. These girls were sexy and the visits were dynamite. Fun times back then and dealing with Buddha. Who was a hoot. Told everyone the way it was.

[QUOTE=JohnsGood1;4000161]Hillbilly Bob you brought back memories of the Cupcake & Sasha Duo's I had back then. These girls were sexy and the visits were dynamite. Fun times back then and dealing with Buddha. Who was a hoot. Told everyone the way it was.[/QUOTE]Don't care what anyone says about the girls enjoying it. These girls truly enjoyed what they were doing. Hope both are doing well. Those were the days.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;3999094]CUPCAKE, SASHA He had some good ones.[/QUOTE]Buddha was great to deal with and I enjoyed most of his talent but I connected with Cupcake and became a regular and basically stopped seeing anyone else. Thanks for the nice trip down memory lane. I know she moved north toward Toledo and she would send me a message every now and then, but the last time I tried to check in her phone was shut off. If she ever returns I will go broke. LOL.

[QUOTE=GMittent01;3992783]Bangkok for example. It's cool to have the idea of having sex for a low price but you give up the luxury of being in a good country. Like Southeast Asia and Bangkok was a shithole. Also there were too many go go bars with the name 'lucifers' or 'devils den' which made me really wonder if there some kind of demonic control over this territory and wondered if ghosts were watching me have sex, if you believe in that sort of thing. I would also have weird dreams at night in my hotel of a prostitutes grandma getting killed in front of the prostitute. It was just weird and I wouldn't advise to go to Bangkok again.[/QUOTE]Here I am thinking I'm a fucking weirdo. Guess I'm outclassed!.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;3998859]First we were in south america. Where the pussy looks great and cheaper Then Bangkok. Now Detroit. How about some good Cincinnati pussy. Costs less than flying to those countries and Detroit. The pickings here are getting slim and costly. Thats for sure. But theres still new talent coming I will wait for them LOL Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]

If you haven't been to Either BsA or Bangkok, OR Pattaya, you'll never understand.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;4000215]Don't care what anyone says about the girls enjoying it. These girls truly enjoyed what they were doing. Hope both are doing well. Those were the days.[/QUOTE]My one time with them, they encouraged me to hang with them after and we all ended up in the shower playing together! Yeah, they were into it- and each other. Sigh.

The good dr.

Don't ever forget Tori Dixon.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;4001057]My one time with them, they encouraged me to hang with them after and we all ended up in the shower playing together! Yeah, they were into it- and each other. Sigh.

The good dr.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrDave39;4001057]My one time with them, they encouraged me to hang with them after and we all ended up in the shower playing together! Yeah, they were into it- and each other. Sigh.

The good dr.[/QUOTE]They showered a lot together. One of the pics in their old ads was of Sasha and Cupcake making out in the shower.

I have done a duo with Sasha and Cupcaje and damn it was hot. I also did another duo with Sasha, but with another of Buddha's girls, Ariel. She was younger, never been with a girl until the session, and it was a real treat watching Sasha take her "lesbian cherry", then joining in.

[QUOTE=MeatMan;4000960]Here I am thinking I'm a fucking weirdo. Guess I'm outclassed!.



If you haven't been to Either BsA or Bangkok, OR Pattaya, you'll never understand.[/QUOTE]Wisdom.

Cold Chang in my hand in 3 weeks.

I've been mongering for over 5 years now. The times have changed alot. The providers ads have too not for the good I'm afraid. They are harder to reach and seem not to care. Listcrawler is the sane way as USA providers Not much to choose from. Now they are using Gmail WTF. Thats a joke or Area codes from differant states. I don't mind Kentucky area at all. Dayton and Middletown are good too. Theres alot of fake ads out now. And then comes the BBW. Alot of them If you like fucking fat go for it not my thing. The pickings are very slim for a decent provider or one that you think is decent. Then theres the catfish. Alot of bullshit to go thru. The old days seemed to be better with quick responces and good service. There are a few of them out there too few. Hopefully it will change soon. Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4011920]I've been mongering for over 5 years now. The times have changed alot. The providers ads have too not for the good I'm afraid. They are harder to reach and seem not to care. Listcrawler is the sane way as USA providers Not much to choose from. Now they are using Gmail WTF. Thats a joke or Area codes from differant states. I don't mind Kentucky area at all. Dayton and Middletown are good too. Theres alot of fake ads out now. And then comes the BBW. Alot of them If you like fucking fat go for it not my thing. The pickings are very slim for a decent provider or one that you think is decent. Then theres the catfish. Alot of bullshit to go thru. The old days seemed to be better with quick responces and good service. There are a few of them out there too few. Hopefully it will change soon. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Been 7 years for me, this time around. I was looking through the old ads here not too long ago, and it does seem like the selection was better and wider 4-5 years ago. I've mostly been seeing 1 particular provider since USA went live again in the spring. There are maybe a couple others advertising now I'd like to see, but not enough to deviate from the reliable and consistent one I've been seeing.

I think the scene we have now is a combination of low unemployment and the H epidemic. I'm sure there are a few who leave the hobby due to getting clean but unfortunately, there have been several who have either passed away or gone to see their uncle due to H.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4011920]I've been mongering for over 5 years now. The times have changed alot. The providers ads have too not for the good I'm afraid. They are harder to reach and seem not to care. Listcrawler is the sane way as USA providers Not much to choose from. Now they are using Gmail WTF. Thats a joke or Area codes from differant states. I don't mind Kentucky area at all. Dayton and Middletown are good too. Theres alot of fake ads out now. And then comes the BBW. Alot of them If you like fucking fat go for it not my thing. The pickings are very slim for a decent provider or one that you think is decent. Then theres the catfish. Alot of bullshit to go thru. The old days seemed to be better with quick responces and good service. There are a few of them out there too few. Hopefully it will change soon. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]I've been going at it a lot longer than five years, a lot longer, and I have to say I agree.

Been 40 years for me, and I have to say it is the worst that I have ever seen it. There are a few quality girls out there, but over all a lot fewer quality girls and the quality in general has dropped significantly with the H epidemic. I think the biggest difference is on street walkers. When I started a lot of SWs were hot young babes not on drugs, now there are no hot girls out there because they all are hooked on some substance. Plus in those days the strip clubs you could buy a bottle and get carry out service or a back room. Then through the early days of internet all types of quality girls, but the last 15 years has seen a huge reduction in good service.

ST.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4012058]Been 7 years for me, this time around. I was looking through the old ads here not too long ago, and it does seem like the selection was better and wider 4-5 years ago. I've mostly been seeing 1 particular provider since USA went live again in the spring. There are maybe a couple others advertising now I'd like to see, but not enough to deviate from the reliable and consistent one I've been seeing.

I think the scene we have now is a combination of low unemployment and the H epidemic. I'm sure there are a few who leave the hobby due to getting clean but unfortunately, there have been several who have either passed away or gone to see their uncle due to H.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

I started back after being out for about 5 years or so. Even just 5 years ago the quality was much better. The girls I used to deal with would all look like they could be my girlfriend if we were out together. Now, even if they are younger than me, they probably look 15 years older than me, at least, and the ones who are my age, just forget it. I have done things with girls far below my level, just because I needed a girl to get the job done. She has a hand, mouth, and hopefully some tits to rub if they haven't withered away. The ones that we refer to as "good looking" now are just the norm from 5 years ago, and still average girls that are not providers, that are just out and about look at least as good or better. The ones that are REALLY good looking (not for a provider) are super rare. The ones I post about are only the stand outs. Many more are nothing to write home about, literally.

If the logistics of getting a legit side girl weren't so complicated, at this point, I'd much rather go that route. I can have something much better looking than today's average provider. But I'm in the office waaay too much combined with my actual family, I don't have the time to give to a girl who I'm trying to get legitimately. Then sooner or later she'll question why she can't come over, and maybe other details I won't think of. Of course if she finds out, she's probably going to want to mess things up for me, and there is a lot to lose.

I swear I wish I was a girl so I could go months without needing sex.

[QUOTE=SinsinnatiToy;4012235]Been 40 years for me, and I have to say it is the worst that I have ever seen it. There are a few quality girls out there, but over all a lot fewer quality girls and the quality in general has dropped significantly with the H epidemic. I think the biggest difference is on street walkers. When I started a lot of SWs were hot young babes not on drugs, now there are no hot girls out there because they all are hooked on some substance. Plus in those days the strip clubs you could buy a bottle and get carry out service or a back room. Then through the early days of internet all types of quality girls, but the last 15 years has seen a huge reduction in good service.

ST.[/QUOTE]I've been mongering since my navy days in the 70's and have been on USASG since 2012 and yes there's a difference. When I started on USA I was into the streetwalkers they were cheap clean and plentiful. The heroin epidemic made me switch to spending more taking less chances with a more supposedly stable escort. But now there isn't a lot out there that moves my needle. And the ones that do are just as unstable as the streetwalkers. If you guys noticed I don't post as much anymore not that I don't want to there's not a lot to report on a lot of skanks time wasters and frauds. But I haven't given up I'm sure these things go in cycles so I'm just hanging out with my side piece and hope things turn around. HL29.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4012301]I've been mongering since my navy days in the 70's and have been on USASG since 2012 and yes there's a difference. When I started on USA I was into the streetwalkers they were cheap clean and plentiful. The heroin epidemic made me switch to spending more taking less chances with a more supposedly stable escort. But now there isn't a lot out there that moves my needle. And the ones that do are just as unstable as the streetwalkers. If you guys noticed I don't post as much anymore not that I don't want to there's not a lot to report on a lot of skanks time wasters and frauds. But I haven't given up I'm sure these things go in cycles so I'm just hanging out with my side piece and hope things turn around. HL29.[/QUOTE]I haven't been around that long, so can't comment, but I do notice a lot of the guys on here talking about white girls and heroin. I'm pretty sure the black girls just smoke weed. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4012301]I've been mongering since my navy days in the 70's and have been on USASG since 2012 and yes there's a difference. When I started on USA I was into the streetwalkers they were cheap clean and plentiful. The heroin epidemic made me switch to spending more taking less chances with a more supposedly stable escort. But now there isn't a lot out there that moves my needle. And the ones that do are just as unstable as the streetwalkers. If you guys noticed I don't post as much anymore not that I don't want to there's not a lot to report on a lot of skanks time wasters and frauds. But I haven't given up I'm sure these things go in cycles so I'm just hanging out with my side piece and hope things turn around. HL29.[/QUOTE]I frequently have similar discussions. The drug epidemic is just out of control but there's more to it, and it is not just service providers. Try to employ people in entry level jobs (this is actually what we do here). Even many young people coming out of college are missing something. They just don't seem to be prepared for life and these girls often have many other issues. Most young women are insulted when we offer direction or criticism and don't know how to handle it. There is so much more I could say but I'm preaching to the choir.

I find myself limiting my activities now to more mature women and the tight young women at AMP's in other select cities. Less Bullshit this way.

[QUOTE=MDuke;4012444]I have seen Chloe many many times, thought I knew her pretty well. She was the only lady that I would visit until she went away. Each time we have met, we would have lunch or dinner, we have even done an overnight. I am form Dayton and have to travel to Cincy area to see her. Today is the first time I have had the chance to see her, since she has been back. We texted for a few days, setting up today's visit. She told me to meet her at a hotel in NKY, and needed the money upfront for her room. I had no problem doing that, because I have seen her so many times. She took the donation and ran. She sent me two texts, telling me she was sorry and not to call or text her, she was blocking my number. I was very disappointed. She is not the Chloe that I used to know, she has changed.[/QUOTE]I have moved this to the Octagon because it is more me thinking out loud than any real advise. Sorry to hear about this and thanks for your report. It's interesting because Steve of Eloquent Evenings has Chloe on his roster for today working 10 to 10 in NKY so she's already got a room.

I am not advising that you do this but, I can't help but wonder what the look on her face might be when you show up by booking her through Steve at EE. I mean after all, you have already prepaid for the visit, right?

I didn't get into the habits on my fist post of providers going down hill, Theres alot too that. Alot more than we know. Most of us think its just the heroin epidemic that is here in Cincinnati. Theres more than that alot more the meth is worse. Thats coming from 30 miles north alot of it. Black girls only smoke pot Horseshit. Think again. One dude told me give me a housewife. Feed her some meth and I will show you my *****. Thats the differance now days. Its a fact of life. Meth makes them want to fuck. Its a fact. But the quality of providers are way down. So that's the way it is. I'm about to stop my mongering for that reason its becoming too risky! Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Ceenote;4012474]I have moved this to the Octagon because it is more me thinking out loud than any real advise. Sorry to hear about this and thanks for your report. It's interesting because Steve of Eloquent Evenings has Chloe on his roster for today working 10 to 10 in NKY so she's already got a room.

I am not advising that you do this but, I can't help but wonder what the look on her face might be when you show up by booking her through Steve at EE. I mean after all, you have already prepaid for the visit, right?[/QUOTE]Sorry to read this unfortunate report of another monger getting duped by a provider. This one is even worse because it's a well known provider and someone who I recently started to schedule for. I just want everyone to know I had no knowledge of this encounter as I am reading this for the first time like you are. I will contact the unfortunate monger and offer him a discount on a EE girl of his choice to try make up for his loss and prevent this kinda thing from happening in the future. The hours on the website are just a educated guess as to who or when ladies might be available. I was told last night by Chloee of some personal issues she had to attend to and haven't heard from her since early this morning. Obviously this kinda of behavior is not acceptable for any lady I schedule for. I have seen about everything over the years so unfortunately things like this do not surprise me. Their true colors always come out eventually. And yes the Quality of ladies I have came across has went way down. But I will continue to do my best to get the best. Thanks again everyone and be safe out there! EE.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4012524]I didn't get into the habits on my fist post of providers going down hill, Theres alot too that. Alot more than we know. Most of us think its just the heroin epidemic that is here in Cincinnati. Theres more than that alot more the meth is worse. Thats coming from 30 miles north alot of it. Black girls only smoke pot Horseshit. Think again. One dude told me give me a housewife. Feed her some meth and I will show you my *****. Thats the differance now days. Its a fact of life. Meth makes them want to fuck. Its a fact. But the quality of providers are way down. So that's the way it is. I'm about to stop my mongering for that reason its becoming too risky! Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Maybe I've just been lucky then, but I have not noticed, with the black girls I've seen, signs like bad teeth, track marks, or any of that.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4013058]Maybe I've just been lucky then, but I have not noticed, with the black girls I've seen, signs like bad teeth, track marks, or any of that.[/QUOTE]I prefer to be a regular with a few providers, although I do enjoy meeting (and enjoying) someone new now and then. That being said, I arranged a few massages with Jade. Black spinner up from Louisville. I met with her three times. No track marks, great body and good teeth. But she kept falling asleep while on top of me. She would be sitting on my butt, massaging my back and talking. Then the talking got quieter. Then the rubs got few and far between. Then she would just lay her head down and snooze a bit. Then she would wake up, start rubbing and talking, and pretend nothing happened. Finally figured out that she was using in her car right before seeing me.