I hear what you're saying.
[QUOTE=SudokuChamp15;6801695] To help you out a bit with house fee + tips.
30 min= $40/$50 & 60 min = $60/$70 . Tips may vary depending on what's on the Menu. But let me give you some advice: Do not pay a $200 tip for FS. Some Members have surrendered to their demands & that's why these women "toy with us" & ask for that much.
I get my 1 hr massage & I pay 100 tip CBJ / Daty / with utc top & bottom.
I have paid 120 tip for BBBJ / Daty / utc top & bottom.
I have paid 1 hr massage with FS = BJ, daty, breast for 130,140, 150 tip (YMMV). So you see, pay the house fee & then tip these prices. Negotiate, but you need to stay firm & don't relent.
I had a nice 50 yr old who went back to China.[/QUOTE]I hear what you're saying:
We as the customers need to aggressively fix the market to ensure the market rates for particular services remain low and do not artificially inflate.
If we all work together we can lock prices in as they stand today.
And there's certainly something to be said for that approach. And I don't want to knock anyone for taking that approach if it serves your interests better than another approach.
However, let me provide a bit of a counterpoint that folks may wish to consider.
1 - "that's why these women "toy with us" & ask for that much".
Maybe you're right. However, it seems clear to me that it's a well established pattern that mongers will attempt to negotiate in a number of ways. Therefore, if she's expecting a haggling session, why wouldn't she start at 200? The way this is written sounds like she's doing something out-of-line when there's a good chance she's engaging in a normal negotiation strategy which is not at all "toying" with you.
2 - The woman isn't a widget at a factory.
If we were talking about an iPhone, I'd agree with you completely. Why would I pay 1100 for that phone from store A when I can pay 1000 for it at store B? In that case, you are literally getting nothing for your extra 100 period, end of story.
The services in question are not cookie-cutter factory widgets. They are provided by a human and every human is different from the next. There are women I wouldn't bang without them paying me and there are women I'd go out of my way to bang.
As others have noted, younger, hotter, better skilled, etc. Are able to command a better price than others doing similar work.
However, more importantly, I think we can all agree that there is a world of difference across the spectrum where you can technically call what happened FS, or a BJ, etc. Etc. What makes one BJ better than another??
This is where you may want to be somewhat more careful about engaging in an aggressive low-balling or holding a rigid line.
Likely a provider has some range between "absolutely won't do X for less than why with you" and "A fair price for X with me for you is Z". So negotiation will land you somewhere between why and Z, but the question to consider is at what impact will it have on how good X is??
Or put more simply. The negotiation and price might get you the "technical" service, but if the provider feels underpaid for it, there's a very real risk that the experience will suffer as a result. Or, very often, you do get what you pay for.
3 - "Don't be a white night trying to save them." Agree. Don't try to be a white knight, but also Don't be the troll living under the bridge either.
Not too long ago I was talking to a guy I know IRL who has been mongering for a long time and I found out what he had been paying and I told him I could could show him stuff on this site where others were routinely paying less for the same services at that location and with those specific providers.
He said to me "Bro, I know and I don't care. I've been doing this a long time and I've left a lot of places feeling I paid too much for what I got and regretted the visit. I've never left (that location) with any regret and always feel I got more than my moneys worth."
Any update o Smantha or Jenny from Fraklin you need a massage?