Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Workie;3969046]A wonderful provider. Let lady j enjoy her retirement from the escort business. Show her some respect and quit texting and calling her![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BobbyLinn;3968948]I got a request from Lady J (I have kept in contact with her as we became personal friends over time), she asked me to let folks know that while she is flattered by continued requests to 'see' her, she wanted to underline that she has in fact retired. A lot of guys who have known her for a long time most likely have her 'personal' phone number, a number she would like to keep to save the hassle of changing it. The problem is that she is still receiving al lot of text messages and phone calls from past clients, texts and calls that she no longer wants to receive! 'J' is very serious about her life change and is making great progress with her new work, marriage and life. As she stated on her last post, she had a lot of fun and enjoyed meeting many nice people. But she has moved on and would like your 'help' so that she doesn't have to change her number. Believe me, I know how hard it is to say goodbye to someone that has provided so many great memories, but I'm just glad that this story is having a happy ending, especially for such a deserving friend.[/QUOTE]Poor thing. Sometimes [B]retirement[/B] means getting a new number. I know that if I don't want people texting or calling me I can certainly take care of it without enlisting a bunch of dudes on a hooker review board to handle my business. We'll see how retired she is around the holidays. Better than even chance she'll be back.

And no. I haven't contacted her. I just don't appreciate a bunch of white knights lecturing everyone.

[QUOTE=Glockman;3964795]More MILFs. From last Wednesday. She spits, but that's all right.[/QUOTE]G Man you are my hero when I grow up I want to be you.

Keep them coming.

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;3970398].

Cost: 2 Benji 1 Grant for hr.

Setup: Okay, so I called her last minute and she did her verification's after I sent her a pic....

Buuuut, the reason she requires the pic is because the local police are aware of her and are trying to bust her (her own words). Match that with the cameras in the notel and I am concerned that discretion is not with me here....

wanted payment upfront before we started. She did not undress until all of that was completed.

JAC.[/QUOTE]Pop quiz to all newbies and seniors alike. Where did he go wrong?

JustACust, you gave her benjamin's and a grant, and you still acted like you were grateful and was willing to bend over backwards to make her happy.

[QUOTE=DNut;3970478]Pop quiz to all newbies and seniors alike. Where did he go wrong?

JustACust, you gave her benjamin's and a grant, and you still acted like you were grateful and was willing to bend over backwards to make her happy.[/QUOTE]I try to always be a gentleman. And I always try to be as honest as possible in my reports. Just trying to make contributions to this forum. Its why were here LOL.

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;3970818]I try to always be a gentleman. And I always try to be as honest as possible in my reports. Just trying to make contributions to this forum. Its why were here LOL.[/QUOTE]I understand, and wanting to make meaningful contributions is a good thing. However, reasonable care should always be observed. The worst posts that no one likes to read are about busts and brothers getting cashed and dashed. It helps the rest of us to know who to avoid, but it's an expensive lesson for the person showing the way. I am sure most will agree that the what we want is for everyone to play, play safe, play well, play happy, and play in such a way as to minimize the risk.

Trust me on this, from a guy who has been around her long enough to have seen and heard it all. "Your money in your pocket has more value than any pussy on the market."Cash can be used for more things than pussy. Having cash gives you options. You have the power to seek out pussy that fits your needs. The most pussy can do is wait around for the phone to ring. Having cash makes you to chooser while pussy waits around to be chosen. The mongers world is the complete opposite of the real world. There the pussy makes the rules. Here, he who has the cash calls the shots.

Know your worth. Don't be pussy whipped by pussy you're paying for, unless that's what you're paying for.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3969976]Poor thing. Sometimes [B]retirement[/B] means getting a new number. I know that if I don't want people texting or calling me I can certainly take care of it without enlisting a bunch of dudes on a hooker review board to handle my business. We'll see how retired she is around the holidays. Better than even chance she'll be back.

And no. I haven't contacted her. I just don't appreciate a bunch of white knights lecturing everyone.[/QUOTE]Roger Over I'm glad to hear you put it on the table I been with Her 7/8 times always retiring, she seems be always marketing herself she really does know how to ride my pole but she's always wanting to married wearing diamond rings. Well anyway I'm always learning. 99% of these gals maybe 100% come from drug and jail time back grounds. The hobby is fun you have to sort it and usually things change.

[QUOTE=DNut;3970478]Pop quiz to all newbies and seniors alike. Where did he go wrong?

JustACust, you gave her benjamin's and a grant, and you still acted like you were grateful and was willing to bend over backwards to make her happy.[/QUOTE]Despite nearly [B]every[/B] faq or recommendation on here saying never give the money up front, it continues to be a thing guys do. Once they have the cash, the need for any type of decent service drops. I also don't get why anyone would send a hooker a picture of themselves.

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;3970818]I try to always be a gentleman. And I always try to be as honest as possible in my reports. Just trying to make contributions to this forum. Its why were here LOL.[/QUOTE]There's nothing wrong with being a decent person, but don't play into any bullshit. I promise, if you simply told her [B][i]NO[/i][/B] to cash up front, she wouldn't have told you to leave, and you would have received what you had agreed to pay for.

I've only had 1 provider leave when I said no to payment up front. I figure she wasn't going to perform as agreed to or cash and dash either way I saved myself from a bad experience.

NEVER pay up front!

Play safe.

JFK.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3969976]I know that if I don't want people texting or calling me I can certainly take care of it without enlisting a bunch of dudes on a hooker review board to handle my business. [/QUOTE]Or PMing you?

[QUOTE=Ceenote;3971318]Or PMing you?[/QUOTE]I keep it pretty locked down to contacts I know and trust. Just dropped you a note.

First of all I don't pay up front or send pics With all her restrictions I would have walked. I've seen her ads what a joke theres better pussy out there. She's been on Babylon for almost a year now out of Cincinnati. So if you like that kind of crap go for it. A total waste of time and money. Theres more bang for the buck out there so to speak. LOL Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;3970818]I try to always be a gentleman. And I always try to be as honest as possible in my reports. Just trying to make contributions to this forum. Its why were here LOL.[/QUOTE]Great reviews, keep it up, the old timers here are just trying to help you get the most value. As was said, once the money is in their hand all incentive to perform is gone and usually just results in minimal effort and just going through the motions. Rule number one is no money up front.

[QUOTE=DaytonSteve;3971517]Great reviews, keep it up, the old timers here are just trying to help you get the most value. As was said, once the money is in their hand all incentive to perform is gone and usually just results in minimal effort and just going through the motions. Rule number one is no money up front.[/QUOTE]I agree also rule 2. Don't send your picture IMO.

[QUOTE=DaytonSteve;3971517]Great reviews, keep it up, the old timers here are just trying to help you get the most value. As was said, once the money is in their hand all incentive to perform is gone and usually just results in minimal effort and just going through the motions. Rule number one is no money up front.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;3971527]I agree also rule 2. Don't send your picture IMO.[/QUOTE]You know standing there butt naked, already paid, and her with her clothes still on, will never let me forget these rules LOL.

Only went through with it because she had been reviewed on this site as not being cash and dash, and to be honest, I would hang out with her again if there was no miscommunication on the menu and she had a Private res Incall. As always YMMV.

JAC.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3969976]Poor thing. Sometimes [B]retirement[/B] means getting a new number. I know that if I don't want people texting or calling me I can certainly take care of it without enlisting a bunch of dudes on a hooker review board to handle my business. We'll see how retired she is around the holidays. Better than even chance she'll be back.

And no. I haven't contacted her. I just don't appreciate a bunch of white knights lecturing everyone.[/QUOTE]Sometimes 'retirement' means leave me the fuck alone you self appointed 'authority' on this hooker review board where you have a lot of posts. The vast majority are meaningless blubbering, this is a perfect example.

[QUOTE=BobbyLinn;3971856]Sometimes 'retirement' means leave me the fuck alone you self appointed 'authority' on this hooker review board where you have a lot of posts. The vast majority are meaningless blubbering, this is a perfect example.[/QUOTE]It means stop being a doorstop for a fucking hooker, you pathetic doorstop. This, and all of your white knight posts, are perfect examples.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3972196]It means stop being a doorstop for a fucking hooker, you pathetic doorstop. This, and all of your white knight posts, are perfect examples.[/QUOTE]At least I have some idea and experience with what I'm talking about. I have enjoyed all your reviews and relevant input. LOL. Over and Out

I had a situation recently where a provider was mad at me. Apparently, another monger knew her exact location and other identifying details, and told the provider I was the one who gave him this info. I did not give out this info, and I never have given out a chick's exact location or any details that might identify who she is.

Thankfully, the provider seems to believe me. But some liar out there could have set me up to walk into a really bad situation and I wouldn't have had a clue what I was walking into. So obviously, providers should not take everything a guy says to them at face value and mongers, be aware this type of crap could happen to you.

I do not know who the monger was and I will not say who the provider was, as she did nothing wrong here.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3976164]I had a situation recently where a provider was mad at me. Apparently, another monger knew her exact location and other identifying details, and told the provider I was the one who gave him this info. I did not give out this info, and I never have given out a chick's exact location or any details that might identify who she is.

Thankfully, the provider seems to believe me. But some liar out there could have set me up to walk into a really bad situation and I wouldn't have had a clue what I was walking into. So obviously, providers should not take everything a guy says to them at face value and mongers, be aware this type of crap could happen to you.

I do not know who the monger was and I will not say who the provider was, as she did nothing wrong here.[/QUOTE]Saw a regular and bam out of the blue she sends a rambling text about not being able to see me. Some guys like to knock others down to make themselves look better. I was putting more in than I was getting out so it worked out for me.

She first posted her ad to meet men in the parking lot of her motel. She next changed her rates higher not by much of course for incall. So I texted her for a QV at. 4. Her asking. Rate. Then she went into up charging. The. 4 went up to 1. For bareback. Qv. She up charges for everything. What a waste of money and time. This is what I've been saying for awhile. These average girls are not worth that price. For a QV? Get real. Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;3977671]She first posted her ad to meet men in the parking lot of her motel. She next changed her rates higher not by much of course for incall. So I texted her for a QV at. 4. Her asking. Rate. Then she went into up charging. The. 4 went up to 1. For bareback. Qv. She up charges for everything. What a waste of money and time. This is what I've been saying for awhile. These average girls are not worth that price. For a QV? Get real. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Too bad. She's good looking.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;3977671]She first posted her ad to meet men in the parking lot of her motel. She next changed her rates higher not by much of course for incall. So I texted her for a QV at. 4. Her asking. Rate. Then she went into up charging. The. 4 went up to 1. For bareback. Qv. She up charges for everything. What a waste of money and time. This is what I've been saying for awhile. These average girls are not worth that price. For a QV? Get real. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Golden3;3978057]Too bad. She's good looking.[/QUOTE]She was being discussed in the Escort thread a day or two ago. Here is a link to her ad on EB:

[URL]https://max80.com.cincinnati.listcrawler.com/post/27003683/bella[/URL]

If link doesn't work, just go to Escort Babylon and search for "Bella" or "JazzyBella" . Make sure to read the comments and check out all of the pics.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3976164]I had a situation recently where a provider was mad at me. Apparently, another monger knew her exact location and other identifying details, and told the provider I was the one who gave him this info. I did not give out this info, and I never have given out a chick's exact location or any details that might identify who she is.

Thankfully, the provider seems to believe me. But some liar out there could have set me up to walk into a really bad situation and I wouldn't have had a clue what I was walking into. So obviously, providers should not take everything a guy says to them at face value and mongers, be aware this type of crap could happen to you.

I do not know who the monger was and I will not say who the provider was, as she did nothing wrong here.[/QUOTE]It has happen to me more then once. Lucky the provider text me an ask if I gave the monger her info. I never give out info without checking with the provider and never personal info.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;3977671]She first posted her ad to meet men in the parking lot of her motel. She next changed her rates higher not by much of course for incall. So I texted her for a QV at. 4. Her asking. Rate. Then she went into up charging. The. 4 went up to 1. For bareback. Qv. She up charges for everything. What a waste of money and time. This is what I've been saying for awhile. These average girls are not worth that price. For a QV? Get real. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Easy to pass on this one anyway. Not much to look at.

Best Free Anonymous Texting App for Android?

Asking for a friend LOL. Looking for options.

Thanks,

CFT.

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;3979538]Best Free Anonymous Texting App for Android?

Asking for a friend LOL. Looking for options.

Thanks,

CFT.[/QUOTE]Textme works for me. It's available on Yalp Store if you're avoiding Google registration. Ad supported. VOIP calls over WiFi although not over teathered VZW data connection. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;3979538]Best Free Anonymous Texting App for Android?

Asking for a friend LOL. Looking for options.

Thanks,

CFT.[/QUOTE]I don't have a good answer for you but I'll mention something I [I]don't[/I] like about the one I tried. TextFree. I hoped it would have its own contacts list, but no. It relies on your regular contact list. Ain't no way I'm mixing personal contacts with hobby contacts. Too much can go wrong. Like fat-fingering a name on a contact list and sending a hobby message to a colleague, relative, or God forbid, my mom. Also, the app would have access to my contacts which means the company probably does too. I don't trust them.

I don't use it much. And I disallowed contacts access.

I am curious if there's one out there that has seperate contacts.

LL.

How in the hell can some of these mongers say the providers have a bad odor when they take their panties off and then they fuck it anyway, . LOL one even Recomened her to other mongers if she cleans up. He said BBBJ only and then on List crawler said he wants her again on Saturday, WTF. She changed her whole ad because of his comments on both sites. I only meet one that had a odor over in eastgate and I left. This young provider Summer I'm going to do her soon and find out. I will report. Some of these regular mongers, try to keep providers to themselves and do this for kicks. Fuck that. Right Starks!! Lenny6746.

Also need a visa to go to Argentina.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;3990671]A2, $35 an hour??

Does she do half hours or QV? I don't think I would last long with that!

Seriously though, for the price of 4-5 hours with providers up here, I could get a plane ticket and head down there. At $35 hour for girls like that, eventually, it would even itself out. Something to ponder![/QUOTE]Or we will all come to our senses and do exactly what you're talking about. Like once a month just fly to another country and go nuts for a few days.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3990811]Or we will all come to our senses and do exactly what you're talking about. Like once a month just fly to another country and go nuts for a few days.[/QUOTE]I'm already checking out flights and hotels.

[QUOTE=GMittent01;3990800]Also need a visa to go to Argentina.[/QUOTE]Just get on a plane.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_United_States_citizens#Visa_requirements[/URL]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3990811]Or we will all come to our senses and do exactly what you're talking about. Like once a month just fly to another country and go nuts for a few days.[/QUOTE]I do have a trip to Costa Rica in a few months. It is legal and abundant there. 4. 5 hour flight. Have done some research, can't wait to go.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3990957]Just get on a plane.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_United_States_citizens#Visa_requirements[/URL][/QUOTE]Touché. And, you're right. It's legal and abundant. Legal, more important than the latter.

[QUOTE=LurkinGround;3991257]I do have a trip to Costa Rica in a few months. It is legal and abundant there. 4. 5 hour flight. Have done some research, can't wait to go.[/QUOTE]What airline are you flying? And from where?

Honestly, I already do this and it saves me so much money that I would had used for hhr or hr rates in USA. Most are 100-150 hhr to 180-300+hr, but for 250 or less, I could fuck multiple hot girls all day in a country where it's legal. Only problem is that after you pop, you realized you're in a shitty country and theres nothing to do but have sex.

[QUOTE=GMittent01;3992216]Honestly, I already do this and it saves me so much money that I would had used for hhr or hr rates in USA. Most are 100-150 hhr to 180-300+hr, but for 250 or less, I could fuck multiple hot girls all day in a country where it's legal. Only problem is that after you pop, you realized you're in a shitty country and theres nothing to do but have sex.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you may be going to the [B]wrong[/B] shitty country my friend. Where are you heading?

[QUOTE=GMittent01;3992216]Honestly, I already do this and it saves me so much money that I would had used for hhr or hr rates in USA. Most are 100-150 hhr to 180-300+hr, but for 250 or less, I could fuck multiple hot girls all day in a country where it's legal. [Highlight]Only problem is[/highlight] that after you pop, you realized you're in a shitty country and [highlight]theres nothing to do but have sex.[/highlight][/QUOTE]I fail to see the problem.

LL.

Bangkok for example. It's cool to have the idea of having sex for a low price but you give up the luxury of being in a good country. Like Southeast Asia and Bangkok was a shithole. Also there were too many go go bars with the name 'lucifers' or 'devils den' which made me really wonder if there some kind of demonic control over this territory and wondered if ghosts were watching me have sex, if you believe in that sort of thing. I would also have weird dreams at night in my hotel of a prostitutes grandma getting killed in front of the prostitute. It was just weird and I wouldn't advise to go to Bangkok again.

[QUOTE=Anvil;3992136]What airline are you flying? And from where?[/QUOTE]I just looked, my bad. Go CVG to Atlanta, then Atlanta to Costa Rica, that leg of the trip is 3 hours, 55 minutes.