We are 90% there (yes over-debated)
[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1631919]Must be a slow day if we're debating the meaning of a few words in a post, but here's part of what Ros Coming posted:
"When she asked about what I wanted I replied nude sensual with HE. She said they didn't do nude but sensual, yes. Should have left right then but I had already stripped and on the table. Lackluster massage, I had to request teasing and point out where the sensual parts were. She was in and out of the room for who knows what reason, then said times up. I said, not until I get my HE. She didn't even know how to hold my cock. So I grabbed her hand and used it like a rag in DIY. She cleaned me up with a hot towel. Damage $50 no tip. YMMV but I will not return."
Notice AMP personnel had promised sensual, which normally means a HE. Seems he kindly pointed to his um, sensual parts, then it appears the girl left the room to get clarification on what to do, returned and maybe reluctantly began a HJ after he insisted. I don't see any indication of use of force there. Reluctance on the girl's part maybe, but no force. And, Ros stated the girl didn't know how to hold a cock, which is quite common amongst many AMP girls unless they've been there a while. Then he 'grabbed her hand and used it like a rag in DIY. ' That could sound like he was rough with her and I do not know, but I would hope guys would approach that issue with relative calmness and show the girl how to do it right. She'll probably still fuck it up, but at least the guy has tried to coach her.
I can agree that he should have left a tip, since she did make somewhat of an effort. The only times I have generally not left a tip is when I got a shitty massage, bad attitude and no HE, meaning the whole session was horrible and I had no intention of returning. Even worse, same scenario with the addition of the girl dogging me out all the way to the door while publicly announcing to her co-workers and customers in Chinese that I'm a cheap guy whilst not accepting any blame for her actions.
I've always advocated approaching any AMP visit with a reasonable frame of mind, from not paying too much for extras (mostly at Korean parlors) to not abusing the girl; HOWEVER, there are special situations where a guy has to stand up for his rights when the girl doesn't do what's been agreed upon, etc. If that means sitting nekkid in the common area of an AMP and demanding a partial refund for services not rendered, then so be it.[/QUOTE]Nite, I hope that I misunderstood the gentleman's post.
However, if he was coaching the girl by grabbing her hand and teaching her "calmly", and he knew the girl didn't know how to handle a cock as he keeps stating, then what incentive will she have if he didn't even leave her a tip for her efforts? As you are aware not all AMPs are the same, you should expect a better massage at some places and at others you expect a good HJ / CBJ / DATY, you rarely find AMPs that have both. I'm done with it, Merry Christmas. This debating shit is exhausting. I am going to go out and find something good to report about.
Back to the scene of the crime
For the record, I'm retired on limited SS income, and can only budget one or two of these visits a quarter. I look here to improve my odds for a satisfactory AMP experience[/QUOTE]Now I understand the frustration.
Well, back to the purpose of this board, I went back so I could see what type of service I would receive. If you ever choose to go back, ask for Nancy (not a looker). I have seen her on several occasions. The first time I received an excellent deep tissue massage (with strong pressure, but not painful) and she only would assist DIY. Today, I received a very good massage and a long slow HJ. The massage wasn't as good as the first time, but the HJ was awesome. I have also been lucky to have a good massage and HJ from the third lady (I don't know her name, but she does not wear glasses and she is younger than Nancy) at that location. I have never seen Liddy or Litty and thanks to your post I will make certain that I do not. I hope this helps.