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[QUOTE=PantyPatrol1;7310300]No, the references to money I was referring to come from the 2025 decision to eliminate "net worth" and "income" sections of the profile, not any direct P4 P references. Seeking wants you to post photos of your ferrari and a selfie of you asking for Grey Poupon instead of bragging about your income / net worth with monetary figures.[/QUOTE]While seeking removed those, their companion site, What's Your Price, still has them. IDK what that's about.
[QUOTE=HarryMcHardon;7297898]Been out of the game for a couple years and looking to get back in. So being prudent, I'm RTFF'ing to catch up with the latest in the bowl and SA. Specifically opsec / scammers / facial recognition.
I've always had almost 0 internet presence, no FB, no Insta, nothing related to my job etc, etc. I do have a linked in but never have posted a photo. A couple hobby clubs I've been in show me in group photos that are taken somewhat far away to get 6-10 people in the pic. That is a total of maybe 4 pics on the internet, with limited detail. So I believe my risk of being I'd'd from a face photo is limited. (Feel free to dispute would like to hear if I'm whistling past the divorce courts LOL).
Today I ran a couple of my face pics through Facecheck for the first time and did not get any hits. Didn't surprise me. But I have a couple questions that I can't find by RTFF.
1.) Do you need the paid service to get all the possible matches? I had no hits on page one but there are many other pages that I would need to pay to see. . When you run your pic to make sure your face doesn't come up on these sites, do you all just view page 1, or do you pay for the more exhaustive list?
2.) I was thinking of implementing the practice of editing a big red bozo clown nose over my nose to send to POTs. Would that be enough to thwart the algorithms? It's stupid, but maybe getting a laugh from the POT would make up for not totally seeing my face. IDK, just reaching for answers because this Facial recognition thing is scary.
3.) Any other ideas of altering / editing a photo to thwart the face rec would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Still trying to modernize my Opsec procedures. And SA not accepting Blackhawk anymore is giving me more time to ponder this, because I still haven't figured out a way to pay LOL.
I was fairly confident my super low internet profile (No FB, Insta, Linked In with no pic, etc) would mean no issues with facial recignition but boy, was I wrong. I had checked a few of my photos on Facecheck with no hits, and wasn't surprised. However today I sent the same pics to Pimeyes – and from my one miniscule presence on the internet, one lousy club I help run, a few group pics on that site threw out a match. No personal info but anyone would know where to find me on certain times / dates when that club meets. I was pretty surprised to say the least.
So now got to figure out if I want to upload pics to Pimeyes to opt out. Knowing they'll probably use those pics at some point to help train their system on my face. It sucks, but I'm thinking opting out at the source is the likely best method to address this threat.
I tried a variety of ways to obscure the pics I would send to POTs, cloaked them 1 x, 2 x,3 x, reversed them, glasses on and off, and nothing worked except putting a big red clown nose over my nose. And even then, the nose had to be pretty damn big to thwart the system. And no guarantee they won't eventually perfect extrapolating around a big red clown nose.
Since I help run the club where my pics are posted, I got into their system and found the offending picture, downloaded it, and cloaked my face 2 x, plus slightly blurred it. And re-uploaded it back to the website where it presents now. Pimeyes is still finding the original version of the pic so I'm thinking it may take a little while for them to re-crawl that site and theoretically the cloaked / blurred pic would register a "no hit" result.
So long term, I have to decide if clown nose pics, monitoring and altering the source of my posted pics, or trusting the Pimeyes opt-out system is the safest answer.
Hope everyone out there who's married or otherwise has a reputation to protect is checking out this stuff. I mean, if I, Mr. Low internet profile, has to worry, then most guys probably have to worry.
SLN Girl, Jenna 23.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/jennathedoll/[/URL]
This SB is 30, smoking hot body, blond, nice, sexy, skinny, personal trainer.
I'm not sure it really matters. Recently I drove a luxury British coupe to a Tennessee college town I pass through a few times a year. Data Point 1 - SB#1 who I've seen several times gave me a driving tour of her campus in the car, and didn't say word one about the car. Saw her again 5 days later and again, no reference to the car. Data Point 2 - Had a meet and greet with SB#2 (SB#1's replacement) in the same TN college town. We conducted the meet & greet in my car. When discussing price, she agreed to the lower of the range I threw out. Driving an expensive car, I had thought she would have pressed for a higher PPM, but she didn't.
A fancy car is an outward symbol of your success. I'm not convinced it matters to an SB, unless, of course, she's a gold-digging *****.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7302817]Q for you guys: do you think it is considered appealing to SBs to drive a flashy car like a Ferrari or McLaren? It seems to me that there are two potential downsides: 1) you might attract more pros instead of actual SBs and 2) SBs might expect more sugar since you have more money. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7312555]This SB is 30, smoking hot body, blond, nice, sexy, skinny, personal trainer.[/QUOTE]Sharing is caring.
[QUOTE=FrenchLuvah;7315107]Sharing is caring.[/QUOTE]Yeah, no way, we took the vids on her phone, that is the easiest way to get a girl to agree to do this.
And yes, I saw her Friday, and we got some 'raw' footage, both her riding me and banging her doggee. Every now and then she sends me a screen shot, it isn't too availing.
SLN Girl, Eden 27.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Eden/[/URL]
Emilyraexoxo experienced pro who arrived with a "driver", if that's your thing.
I declined upon learning about driver. . . Too hookerish for me, and probably a prepay request followed by a bunch of rules.
[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/1aba49277a6676a3[/URL]
That said, she does look as advertised.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7303540]HG, you know everyone here worships your contributions, including me. The phrase 'we're not worthy' comes to mind. And we know the fantastic success you've had, using your methods. There's absolutely no BS in your reports. However, it is also worth noting that your methods work well for you but might not for many others here. In particular, you have zero concern about getting exposed, you have no SO, and you have (in the past at least) hosted SBs. Those things could never be done by a lot of the guys reading here. So we have to develop our own methodologies.[/QUOTE]I can only post my own experience because that's what I know. The only other first hand experiences I can relate to are a couple of buddies that back in the day really scored a lot but its too many years ago to be relevant anymore. Or my own daughter that learned the game partially from me and scored bigtime over the years. But those guy were flat out wealthy. And so not really relevant either to the guys on this thread. Wealthy as in 10k-20k dates and more.
Now the one major con to my situation is these girls know I am not married and the closest thing I have to an SO is my long term GF that I met on seeking 12 years ago. This means that there will be girls that want to glom onto me, maybe live with me or see some potential to move up the sugar babe chain. But overall my experience is not really transferable to most of the guys here unless they are single or at least separated. And that tiktok guy. I did not save his profile.
More recently I have finally started to focus more on earning a decent living again and have gotten over my depression of having to live in vegas. Vegas will never compare to L.A. in just the sheer ease of meeting girls. So maybe I will get back to meeting some new girls before the end of the year. But the standards I had for my girls in L. A. can not be achieved here in any meaningful way.
I'll never forget, HG, your post concerning taking POTs to the same restaurant every time, to the extent that all the staff would come out from the back to see who you were with this time. I laughed so hard.
Sexy Shelleey 41, Submissive and obedient, likes her hair pulled while getting pounded in doggy.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/shelleeylove001/[/URL]
[QUOTE=SugarLifeNow;7319364]Sexy Shelleey 41, Submissive and obedient, likes her hair pulled while getting pounded in doggy.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/shelleeylove001/[/URL][/QUOTE]Pounded bare?
[QUOTE=Pmanhere;7319375]Pounded bare?[/QUOTE]Should be bare, sure she wants 1 K.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7318931]I'll never forget, HG, your post concerning taking POTs to the same restaurant every time, to the extent that all the staff would come out from the back to see who you were with this time. I laughed so hard.[/QUOTE]Yeah that was Phoenix in Chinatown. A couple of times I would run into my x SB's there while on a date because we all really liked that place back in the day. And they would have their new SD take them there. I miss those days for sure.
[QUOTE=RanManCan;7317053]Emilyraexoxo experienced pro who arrived with a "driver", if that's your thing.
I declined upon learning about driver. . . Too hookerish for me, and probably a prepay request followed by a bunch of rules.
[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/1aba49277a6676a3[/URL]
That said, she does look as advertised.[/QUOTE]Bummer! Thank you for the warning!
Looks like I will be dodging that bullet. More details via PM would be appreciated!
Looking for Intel on this very Fit Brazilian girl.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f44a65e6-41b3-46b0-a1b1-15d9cdbf4708[/URL]
Looking for Intel on this very Fit Brazilian.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f44a65e6-41b3-46b0-a1b1-15d9cdbf4708[/URL]
New SLN Girl Allie 18, New Texas Sugar Baby, submissive, but can be dominant for the right daddy, likes funny and discreet guys.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Allieday/[/URL]
Been on Seeking for a few years now. The GPS (golden pussy syndrome) of the women on there in the LA area is higher than ever. However, definitely not impossible to find someone worthwhile. Recently (early June 2025) met up with a 23 year old in the LA area and now she's my regular. BBFS each visit, $$ total damage. Athlete at a local college. Unfortunately, don't have her permission to share details (she deleted her account after we met up a couple of times since she doesn't want to be seeing different / multiple people).
HANG IN THERE MONGERS! KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT AND DON'T OVERPAY.
[QUOTE=Scotty8783;7325773]Been on Seeking for a few years now. The GPS (golden pussy syndrome) of the women on there in the LA area is higher than ever. However, definitely not impossible to find someone worthwhile. Recently (early June 2025) met up with a 23 year old in the LA area and now she's my regular. BBFS each visit, $$ total damage. Athlete at a local college. Unfortunately, don't have her permission to share details (she deleted her account after we met up a couple of times since she doesn't want to be seeing different / multiple people).
HANG IN THERE MONGERS! KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT AND DON'T OVERPAY.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a dream arrangement.
How often do you meet and how long do you typically hang out with her?
Do you take her out on dates and if so, how much do your usually spend minus the $$?
[QUOTE=Domelike2020;7325791]Sounds like a dream arrangement.
How often do you meet and how long do you typically hang out with her?
Do you take her out on dates and if so, how much do your usually spend minus the $$?[/QUOTE]It is worth keeping in mind, when we are reporting our convos w / POTs, that we believe they routinely inflate their allowance expectations / past receipts. Given this is part of human nature, likewise there may be deflation in the reports of allowance given by SDs here. Not to mention the technical glitch that when guys put in dollar signs, sometimes the number of signs gets modified from what gets typed. The post I am replying to, it has two dollar signs in it, signifying 200 I assume. Not sure if that was his sugar.
I have seen a latina SB once, she is a Berkeley grad in math (she says). She got a 450 allowance and I paid for the room (that she booked). I was supposed to see her today, I reminded her that the deal I made her is that the first sugar would be better to be sure she was happy, but future dates would be 350. She replied 'oh no, I would never do less than 4'. So I cut her off. She is a lame kisser.
She goes by GorgeousHottie on seeking. She lives in West Hollywood, claims to be 29 when her true age is 31. We agreed on 3 and she would host. She asked for the donation as soon as I arrived, and once she received it, she said she isn't comfortable playing and refused to return the donation. Trash.
LA is a well-known spot for sugaring, but I keep hearing about Phoenix and Tampa as well. Does anyone have any experience with the sugar scene in those cities? How do they stack up relative to LA? I'm trying to find the best spot in the US for 1) abundance, 2) quality, and 3) reasonable expectations.
[QUOTE=SwaffelenPro;7326353]She goes by GorgeousHottie on seeking. She lives in West Hollywood, claims to be 29 when her true age is 31. We agreed on 3 and she would host. She asked for the donation as soon as I arrived, and once she received it, she said she isn't comfortable playing and refused to return the donation. Trash.[/QUOTE]For the 1,000th time it will be repeated. Never pay upfront. Like never ever never to be clear.
[QUOTE=SugarLifeNow;7325595]New SLN Girl Allie 18, New Texas Sugar Baby, submissive, but can be dominant for the right daddy, likes funny and discreet guys.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Allieday/[/URL][/QUOTE]Do you guys do fly ins? I have only done it 3 times. Twice when I was new and didn't know how to vet a girl. Those were disasters. One that worked out well but still a scheduling nightmare. Ended it after that.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;7326883]Do you guys do fly ins? I have only done it 3 times. Twice when I was new and didn't know how to vet a girl. Those were disasters. One that worked out well but still a scheduling nightmare. Ended it after that.[/QUOTE]One of the best ever, I flew in. From the moment she got in the car at the airport she was on me, blew me all the way to her hotel. I took her to the Getty first which was a surprise for her, and was probably why we she didn't ask for much after, and we spent the weekend in the hotel except to get a bite. Complete fiend.
[QUOTE=SwaffelenPro;7326353]She goes by GorgeousHottie on seeking. She lives in West Hollywood, claims to be 29 when her true age is 31. We agreed on 3 and she would host. She asked for the donation as soon as I arrived, and once she received it, she said she isn't comfortable playing and refused to return the donation. Trash.[/QUOTE]More like Swaffelen Rookie LOL.
If you spent the weekend with her, I hope you have more and better pics to share!
[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;7327211]One of the best ever, I flew in. From the moment she got in the car at the airport she was on me, blew me all the way to her hotel. I took her to the Getty first which was a surprise for her, and was probably why we she didn't ask for much after, and we spent the weekend in the hotel except to get a bite. Complete fiend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DropFrame;7327480]If you spent the weekend with her, I hope you have more and better pics to share![/QUOTE]Here are a few more. Amazing body, cute personality. Likes being restrained and choked. Simply couldn't get enough. Rode me for hours, and then when I was trying to rest for a bit, would sit up and ask me if we could do this position, or could we try that. The last pic was when she asked if we could do anal, how could I say no? LOL.
[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;7327618]Here are a few more. Amazing body, cute personality. Likes being restrained and choked. Simply couldn't get enough. Rode me for hours, and then when I was trying to rest for a bit, would sit up and ask me if we could do this position, or could we try that. The last pic was when she asked if we could do anal, how could I say no? LOL.[/QUOTE]AMAZING find!!
I still think this is the funniest thing I've read on this forum. . . Had to re-post to give you all a laugh.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;7131307] . . . Threatening in broken engrish to come behead me and my family for "wasting your girl's time"? By all means, good sir, please stop by! [/QUOTE]
New Beautiful SLN Girl Bliss 19, Loves shopping and restaurants. Submissive and affectionate, loves to kiss while she rides daddy, bare is ok, wants to try a 3 sum MFF.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/babybliss/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;7327618]Here are a few more. Amazing body, cute personality. Likes being restrained and choked. Simply couldn't get enough. Rode me for hours, and then when I was trying to rest for a bit, would sit up and ask me if we could do this position, or could we try that. The last pic was when she asked if we could do anal, how could I say no? LOL.[/QUOTE]Damn, what a beautiful woman. You're one lucky dude.
Did you fly her in from a major city? Been thinking about looking at girls in the sticks and seeing if that yields results.
DTF, been on SB and SA for a while:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dfcf20d5-5ea8-4122-89df-3c2a7d4617e6[/URL]
Any intel?
New SLN Girl Angel 29 BH.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Goddess/[/URL]
I've been noticing some new profiles on seeking using two side-by-side 💙 emojis to refer to some kind of club or set of events. Examples are: " Going to the 💙 💙 events this month. Looking for a sweet guy to take me there. " and " Seeking primarily and preferably from the Los Angeles 🖤 🩷 circuit. " Any ideas what this is referring to?
New SLN Girl Juddy 44.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Juddy/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sipping;7334144]I've been noticing some new profiles on seeking using two side-by-side 💙 emojis to refer to some kind of club or set of events. Examples are: " Going to the 💙 💙 events this month. Looking for a sweet guy to take me there. " and " Seeking primarily and preferably from the Los Angeles 🖤 🩷 circuit. " Any ideas what this is referring to?[/QUOTE]Some sort of Rave type handshake going around and you do a heart symbol and give a bracelet. Learned about it at DayTrip. Maybe?
[QUOTE=Blackfin;7335130]Some sort of Rave type handshake going around and you do a heart symbol and give a bracelet. Learned about it at DayTrip. Maybe?[/QUOTE]Double heart emoji is what was formerly the LOVE or SCTN network. Basically, a paid subscription to some sort of Eyes Wide Shut type of events.
Looks fun, but I like the more natural inexperienced sugar babies. I just block all the double-heart profiles, the pics are too perfect so they keep grabbing my attention.
Trading kandy (bracelets) at raves festivals is a thing to, just has nothing to do with the double-heart emoji's.