Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=NuGuy36;5021873]Actually, I worry more about the mental state of the roughly 60 million Americans who think another four years of this inept, ignorant, clueless, pathetic old loaf who couldn't manage a pandemic is a good idea.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about us, pal. Worry about yourself if you help elect Biden, the befuddled doofus who would be President for about 5 minutes until removed by Witch Pelosi and her group of monsters. If you really think Biden could have done a better job we are the ones who should worry about you.

[QUOTE=ParrotScope;5023012]I am a 30 something, but I assume most of you guys are older. So why no discussion about Jon ossoff and his new plan?? Is his new healthcare plan BS? As older men, are you concerned about the future of healthcare??[/QUOTE]First off, read the constitution and tell me exactly where the government is even supposed to be involved in health care? Second, if you force single payer you essentially make healthcare workers the new slaves because your forcing them to work at wages someone else sets forth and innovation will be down the tubes because there will be no financial incentive.

HOWEVER. There is one element to his commercial that is true. Government cannot barter for drug prices but the Democrats are equally guilty of climbing into bed with Big Pharma as the Republicans. That one piece of the equation is truly an orgy with Dems, Reps, and Big Pharma.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5023364]First off, read the constitution and tell me exactly where the government is even supposed to be involved in health care? Second, if you force single payer you essentially make healthcare workers the new slaves because your forcing them to work at wages someone else sets forth and innovation will be down the tubes because there will be no financial incentive.

HOWEVER. There is one element to his commercial that is true. Government cannot barter for drug prices but the Democrats are equally guilty of climbing into bed with Big Pharma as the Republicans. That one piece of the equation is truly an orgy with Dems, Reps, and Big Pharma.[/QUOTE]Excuse my typo, it is supposed to say "20 something," not 30.

I never said that the constitution wants government to be involved in healthcare. Please understand that, I'm asking for the opinions of others. Let's make that clear.

Furthermore, I believe Obamacare is broken and cannot last in the long run. I don't really have the solution, but I do believe healthcare is a basic human right. Or at least it should be.

You shouldn't be able to let a man die or suffer, just because he can't afford healthcare. That's my most liberal viewpoint.

I don't know what. But something needs to be done about big pharma. I wish I had the solution, but inflation, and the business aspect of healthcare leads to great corruption.

I feel sorry for those with a serious Illness, and no money.

I don't think Biden and Harris have the solution though.

Any other views?? This is interesting to me.

[QUOTE=ParrotScope;5023012]I am a 30 something, but I assume most of you guys are older. So why no discussion about Jon ossoff and his new plan??

Is his new healthcare plan BS?

As older men, are you concerned about the future of healthcare??[/QUOTE]FWIW, It's been 4 years and we've heard only murmurings of Trump's health care plan to replace the ACA (Obamacare).

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5023549]FWIW, It's been 4 years and we've heard crickets about Trump's health care plan to replace the ACA (Obamacare).[/QUOTE]Yes, in addition to the wall he never built.

I don't care for a Trump or Biden, but I really HATE Harris. So either I don't participate, or my vote goes to Trump.

[QUOTE=ParrotScope;5023012]I am a 30 something, but I assume most of you guys are older. So why no discussion about Jon ossoff and his new plan??

Is his new healthcare plan BS?

As older men, are you concerned about the future of healthcare??[/QUOTE]The US is one of the few countries in the world without some sort of national healthcare system, which is baffling if not disgraceful. That being said, many of the national systems are not working as envisioned.

My British mother-in-law needed a new hip. The waiting time under the national system was over six months, so she used private insurance to get it done. It seems that for anything more than a case of the sniffles, she uses her private insurance, which begs the question of why she has to pay for two systems in order to get healthcare.

I truly believe that a national healthcare system is essential to the future of this country. The problem is that no-one, including me, has any realistic plan to implement one that is effective, obtainable, and affordable. Full, complete, and timely systems are prohibitively expensive while cheap systems result in poorer healthcare and longer waits for service for everyone.

John Ossoff does not have the answer. Unfortunately, neither does anyone else.

[QUOTE=NuGuy36;5021873]Actually, I worry more about the mental state of the roughly 60 million Americans who think another four years of this inept, ignorant, clueless, pathetic old loaf who couldn't manage a pandemic is a good idea.[/QUOTE]So you would vote for the person so stupid as to claim that if he had been President no American would have died from COVID? With his dementia, he may very well believe he is God. And BTW, the WHO just announced that the pandemic may end a lot sooner than they thought and that Trump's plan is working very quickly at ending it.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5023669]So you would vote for the person so stupid as to claim that if he had been President no American would have died from COVID? With his dementia, he may very well believe he is God. And BTW, the WHO just announced that the pandemic may end a lot sooner than they thought and that Trump's plan is working very quickly at ending it.[/QUOTE]I believe he has said a lot less people would have died under his watch. Obama and Biden had a pandemic playbook that Trump threw away. Biden's claim has some merit.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5023748]I believe he has said a lot less people would have died under his watch. Obama and Biden had a pandemic playbook that Trump threw away. Biden's claim has some merit.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/sep/18/joe-biden/joe-biden-wrongly-claims-trump-couldve-prevented-e/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5023758][URL]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/sep/18/joe-biden/joe-biden-wrongly-claims-trump-couldve-prevented-e/[/URL][/QUOTE]This compared to the chaos, incompetence, and the glaring lack of empathy that defines this administration......lol

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rjkYbQYEN0g[/URL]

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5023174]First and foremost, fuck off and continue to do so. You just need a statistical sample because that's all your amoeba brain can process. [b]No need to fear me, boy. Your biggest fear is what you see in the mirror.[/b][/QUOTE]I suppose that's intended to mean something to me, but nope. Nothing comes to mind. I'm sure the only thing bad about you besides your breath, is the lack of comprehension of complex issues.

Or maybe you're simply pathetic.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5023186]It just means that there are far more Dem idiots than Repubs, that's all.[/QUOTE]Interesting, anyone else with at least half a brain says the opposite is true. Infectious disease experts all over the world say masks do work to curtail the spread of Infectious diseases.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5023948]Interesting, anyone else with at least half a brain says the opposite is true. Infectious disease experts all over the world say masks do work to curtail the spread of Infectious diseases.[/QUOTE]Right? Talk about folks being sheeple.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;5023867]I suppose that's intended to mean something to me, but nope. Nothing comes to mind. I'm sure the only thing bad about you besides your breath, is the lack of comprehension of complex issues.

Or maybe you're simply pathetic.[/QUOTE]What? Still pissed because you received a cease and desist order from Don Lemon's butt plug?

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5023948]Interesting, anyone else with at least half a brain says the opposite is true. Infectious disease experts all over the world say masks do work to curtail the spread of Infectious diseases[/QUOTE]First, I'm a firm believer in masks. The big question is, how is anyone going to enforce it? Go to any public beach and watch the hordes in close proximity to each other. One would need an Army of police to ensure complete enforcement of any nationwide mask law. Biden said in the debate that he'd mandate mask wearing. Almost spit out my coffee when I heard that.