Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=MorpheusZ;3912742]A week or so ago, I selected 3 providers to contact. Busty Red responded lightly to maybe a couple of texts and then crickets. I then "PM'd" Brenna Nicole: nothing, so I sent an email. Again, no response. I then traded several texts with Gia Goddess (Eros) and was feeling good until she said she required a pic of my I'd and my work badge. Ouch! Who would give out that much information? I countered that I was a senior member of USA Sex Guide. Her response: " I don't see men from that site". That was a downer.

My intention has always been to continue to see the terrific ladies from E. E. And sample some of the others from tine to time. Regards.[/QUOTE]I too have been told by providers that they don't see anyone from the USA site. I use that moniker very carefully. Usually only with providers that advertise on the site. Its not the badge of honor you would hope.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;3913153]I too have been told by providers that they don't see anyone from the USA site. I use that moniker very carefully. Usually only with providers that advertise on the site. Its not the badge of honor you would hope.[/QUOTE]I have seen several ladies from other sites who think this is just a woman bashing site. So I don't usually tell them I am a member here until after we meet.

LL.

[QUOTE=ROB1001;3912685]She told me her Dad was on life support in Cleveland and that is where she was going. I thought Chicago was odd, that's why I think someone else is in control of her phone. I would not respond to her ads until some kind of confirmation is made that proves it is her.[/QUOTE]Got and email back from velvet, and she is back. She was stranded in Chicago by a family member. But said she is back in Ohio.

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Why would someone remove the cover for a cheap BBFS thrill with a provider that doesn't offer it? You fuck things up for everyone. The provider has to go get tested and will be out $ and time if you gave her something. She may not ever return to the hobby. Such a dickhead move.

[QUOTE=JustTry;3914812]Why would someone remove the cover for a cheap BBFS thrill with a provider that doesn't offer it? You fuck things up for everyone. The provider has to go get tested and will be out $ and time if you gave her something. She may not ever return to the hobby. Such a dickhead move.[/QUOTE]I think you called it already. They're a dickhead.

[QUOTE=JustTry;3914812]Why would someone remove the cover for a cheap BBFS thrill with a provider that doesn't offer it? You fuck things up for everyone. The provider has to go get tested and will be out $ and time if you gave her something. She may not ever return to the hobby. Such a dickhead move.[/QUOTE]Who in the hell did that? And who did they do it to?

In the short span of my being a week away in Vegas, Velvet has retired, gotten walls of goodbye tributes, issued a few impassioned texts to some mongers, and then she made it all the way to Chicago and now she's back?

Unbelievable. Actually, it's completely believable. .

Carry on guys! I'm going back down the casino where the odds are a lot harder to predict.

[QUOTE=LTL429;3914904]Who in the hell did that? And who did they do it to?[/QUOTE]This will probably get deleted if I give his name. But his last post was about Kellie on 2/18 of this year. He doesn't post much. Kellie is not the victim of this asshole. I'll keep the victim's name private.
[Post=3730898]This one[/post]

[QUOTE=LuvnLivn;3915186]This will probably get deleted if I give his name. But his last post was about Kellie on 2/18 of this year. He doesn't post much. Kellie is not the victim of this asshole. I'll keep the victim's name private.
[Post=3730898]This one[/post][/QUOTE]This is the kind of crap that runs the good ladies off, fills the market with the druggies that this doesn't bother, and gives many of the ladies the impression that we are all dirtbags. I would also consider it a form of assault. It is never ok to do anything to a lady that she doesn't agree to, no matter what the situation is.

[QUOTE=LuvnLivn;3915186]This will probably get deleted if I give his name. But his last post was about Kellie on 2/18 of this year. He doesn't post much. Kellie is not the victim of this asshole. I'll keep the victim's name private.
[Post=3730898]This one[/post][/QUOTE]It appears that 3-4 members had posts on that date mentioning Kellie.

I figured this would be the work of Amon. But I guess he has a brother?

Shameless!

[QUOTE=JustTry;3914812]Why would someone remove the cover for a cheap BBFS thrill with a provider that doesn't offer it? You fuck things up for everyone. The provider has to go get tested and will be out $ and time if you gave her something. She may not ever return to the hobby. Such a dickhead move.[/QUOTE]And it's literally sexual assault, doesn't matter if the chick is a hooker or not.

[QUOTE=LuvnLivn;3915186]This will probably get deleted if I give his name. But his last post was about Kellie on 2/18 of this year. He doesn't post much. Kellie is not the victim of this asshole. I'll keep the victim's name private.
[Post=3730898]This one[/post][/QUOTE]That is correct, we don't review mongers on this thread and unless you were standing there or he admits to sexual assault you have no idea what actually happened.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3914910]In the short span of my being a week away in Vegas, Velvet has retired, gotten walls of goodbye tributes, issued a few impassioned texts to some mongers, and then she made it all the way to Chicago and now she's back?

Unbelievable. Actually, it's completely believable. .

Carry on guys! I'm going back down the casino where the odds are a lot harder to predict.[/QUOTE]Posting weekly since her "retirement", money talks. In these cases bullshit doesn't walk.

[QUOTE=Mbgbe696;3913486]Got and email back from velvet, and she is back. She was stranded in Chicago by a family member. But said she is back in Ohio.[/QUOTE]Didn't I recently see an ad that she was retiring after the next 10 visitors?

Curious how many of these ladies that announce retirement are really planning on ending this lifestyle. Seems many have a plan but once they activate that plan it completely crumbles. Maybe the sugar jar isn't as full or as big as they were told it would be or maybe they have a facility they plan to go to but can't get admitted into it. .

I give anyone credit for trying to better their life and in this climate I understand anyone, mongers included, that wants to get out before they get burnt.

Play safe.

JFK.

[QUOTE=FireNice49;3915666]Didn't I recently see an ad that she was retiring after the next 10 visitors?[/QUOTE]I've seen this so much in my time on this site. I really think it's a way for the girls to drum up business. VR last post on EB was I need 250 to get a car who's going to help. Or words to that effect. What does she need the car for,to get to her new legit job or to get to her outcall appointments? I've seen her only once and is a nice girl (not my type) and the experience was ok but she is not without her problems. Was this a play on her favorite mongers emotion or did she change her mind idk, but I don't take these girls retirement seriously until I don't see their ad up anymore like Natalie or Remy Sandy these girls didn't have a big I'm retiring thing they just took their ads down changed their number and left us wondering what happened. HL29.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3915329]And it's literally sexual assault, doesn't matter if the chick is a hooker or not.

That is correct, we don't review mongers on this thread and unless you were standing there or he admits to sexual assault you have no idea what actually happened.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'd actually never heard that term and had to go look it up. I guess it's a real "thing" with the millennial set.

I agree with A2 regarding [I] if you weren't there you don't know what happened[/I], and jumping to white knighting just isn't appropriate IMO. If she has a vagina full of some guys unwanted sperm, she can go to the police, because she's been assaulted. They will look at the hotel vids and go arrest the guy.

[b]These girls lie[/b]. I don't want to victim bash, but I've known girls on here that I thought were really sweet, and then they simply lied their ass off to me, and then acted like I was out of line for calling them out on it. Why would we automatically believe them?

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3915828]I've seen this so much in my time on this site. I really think it's a way for the girls to drum up business. VR last post on EB was I need 250 to get a car who's going to help. Or words to that effect. What does she need the car for,to get to her new legit job or to get to her outcall appointments? I've seen her only once and is a nice girl (not my type) and the experience was ok but she is not without her problems. Was this a play on her favorite mongers emotion or did she change her mind idk, but I don't take these girls retirement seriously until I don't see their ad up anymore like Natalie or Remy Sandy these girls didn't have a big I'm retiring thing they just took their ads down changed their number and left us wondering what happened. HL29.[/QUOTE]Preach on brother. Can I get an "amen"?

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3915828]I've seen this so much in my time on this site. I really think it's a way for the girls to drum up business. VR last post on EB was I need 250 to get a car who's going to help. Or words to that effect. What does she need the car for,to get to her new legit job or to get to her outcall appointments? I've seen her only once and is a nice girl (not my type) and the experience was ok but she is not without her problems. Was this a play on her favorite mongers emotion or did she change her mind idk, but I don't take these girls retirement seriously until I don't see their ad up anymore like Natalie or Remy Sandy these girls didn't have a big I'm retiring thing they just took their ads down changed their number and left us wondering what happened. HL29.[/QUOTE]It's like a used car lot. "Huge sale this weekend only. If you don't buy now everything is will be gone".

Drive by the next weekend and the same cars are on the lot.

Ignore the noise. For the most part the same girls will be here next week and if one does move on a new model comes in to replace her.

[QUOTE=Blowme12;3916614]It's like a used car lot. "Huge sale this weekend only. If you don't buy now everything is will be gone".

Drive by the next weekend and the same cars are on the lot.

Ignore the noise. For the most part the same girls will be here next week and if one does move on a new model comes in to replace her.[/QUOTE]For some reason, that [I] new model vs Velvet[/I] resonated with me. Thanks!

Met up for a beer with another USASGer for only the second time in my career. Like the first one, he was an awesome dude. I don't meet up with just anyone on USASG, and I don't suggest you do either. But you can get a sense of a guy from his posts. And I hope YUM69 will start releasing some of his vids to show the world some more 'Nati Poon!

I thoroughly enjoy DATY and not long ago I was with a girl who wasn't totally shaved. She was well kept, manicured and clean, but not smooth and bald. She sat on my face and got into the DATY with a lot of rocking back and forth and as I was driving home I happened to look in the mirror and saw that some of the area around my mouth was red and bruised looking. It looked like someone punched me or took some sandpaper to my mouth. Later that evening I was out with friends and it was obviously noticeable because one of them asked me about it. I made up a story that I was yanking on something with a pair of pliers and that it suddenly broke loose and I ended up hitting myself in the mouth. I got away with it but I'm curious if anyone else has ever had this happen. Saffy was NOT the one who did it but I've only seen her one time for fear of it happening again. Just thought I'd throw it out there.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3919911]I thoroughly enjoy DATY and not long ago I was with a girl who wasn't totally shaved. She was well kept, manicured and clean, but not smooth and bald. She sat on my face and got into the DATY with a lot of rocking back and forth and as I was driving home I happened to look in the mirror and saw that some of the area around my mouth was red and bruised looking. It looked like someone punched me or took some sandpaper to my mouth. Later that evening I was out with friends and it was obviously noticeable because one of them asked me about it. I made up a story that I was yanking on something with a pair of pliers and that it suddenly broke loose and I ended up hitting myself in the mouth. I got away with it but I'm curious if anyone else has ever had this happen. Saffy was NOT the one who did it but I've only seen her one time for fear of it happening again. Just thought I'd throw it out there.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you got punched in the mouth by a beaver! HAHA!!

You can experience the same type of thing by having sex with a woman with stubble and you being shaven in the nether region. It is an irritation similar to razor burn, and not very comfortable. You can often get ingrown hairs from shaving the jewels and having sex. Those little fuckers are rather sensitive and painful!

Sorry for your pain, but maybe you should make her shave before using your face as a seat again.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3919911]I thoroughly enjoy DATY and not long ago I was with a girl who wasn't totally shaved. She was well kept, manicured and clean, but not smooth and bald. She sat on my face and got into the DATY with a lot of rocking back and forth and as I was driving home I happened to look in the mirror and saw that some of the area around my mouth was red and bruised looking. It looked like someone punched me or took some sandpaper to my mouth. Later that evening I was out with friends and it was obviously noticeable because one of them asked me about it. I made up a story that I was yanking on something with a pair of pliers and that it suddenly broke loose and I ended up hitting myself in the mouth. I got away with it but I'm curious if anyone else has ever had this happen. Saffy was NOT the one who did it but I've only seen her one time for fear of it happening again. Just thought I'd throw it out there.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Some of the hair removal creams can inflame skin, the instructions say to not use on mucous membranes, etc. Possible I suppose.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3919911]I thoroughly enjoy DATY and not long ago I was with a girl who wasn't totally shaved. She was well kept, manicured and clean, but not smooth and bald. She sat on my face and got into the DATY with a lot of rocking back and forth and as I was driving home I happened to look in the mirror and saw that some of the area around my mouth was red and bruised looking. It looked like someone punched me or took some sandpaper to my mouth. Later that evening I was out with friends and it was obviously noticeable because one of them asked me about it. I made up a story that I was yanking on something with a pair of pliers and that it suddenly broke loose and I ended up hitting myself in the mouth. I got away with it but I'm curious if anyone else has ever had this happen. Saffy was NOT the one who did it but I've only seen her one time for fear of it happening again. Just thought I'd throw it out there.[/QUOTE]I've gottten chaffed before just from the hair not a big deal it's happened to me a few times like a razor burn.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3919911]I thoroughly enjoy DATY and not long ago I was with a girl who wasn't totally shaved. She was well kept, manicured and clean, but not smooth and bald. She sat on my face and got into the DATY with a lot of rocking back and forth and as I was driving home I happened to look in the mirror and saw that some of the area around my mouth was red and bruised looking. It looked like someone punched me or took some sandpaper to my mouth. Later that evening I was out with friends and it was obviously noticeable because one of them asked me about it. I made up a story that I was yanking on something with a pair of pliers and that it suddenly broke loose and I ended up hitting myself in the mouth. I got away with it but I'm curious if anyone else has ever had this happen. Saffy was NOT the one who did it but I've only seen her one time for fear of it happening again. Just thought I'd throw it out there.[/QUOTE]This post made me think of one of my first forays into this hobby about 9 years ago in Las Vegas. I set up a session with Angela Masters (A2, that's the name she advertises under so don't hit me too hard). Her BBBJ was like a jack hammer and being so new I didn't say anything, thinking I might look stupid. Lots of gagging, spit and a little pain. The next day I had bruises on the head of my little buddy, had to be careful around the ball and chain and only service her in complete darkness for a few days. I wouldn't put up with that today, but looking back it kinda makes me chuckle. Be safe and have fun, Ace.

[QUOTE=AceJohnson;3920213]This post made me think of one of my first forays into this hobby about 9 years ago in Las Vegas. I set up a session with Angela Masters (A2, that's the name she advertises under so don't hit me too hard). Her BBBJ was like a jack hammer and being so new I didn't say anything, thinking I might look stupid. Lots of gagging, spit and a little pain. The next day I had bruises on the head of my little buddy, had to be careful around the ball and chain and only service her in complete darkness for a few days. I wouldn't put up with that today, but looking back it kinda makes me chuckle. Be safe and have fun, Ace.[/QUOTE]You also need to beware of tongue studs. I had a woman with a tongue stud leave a raw mark on the head from aggressive BBBJ. It was rather painful for a couple of days.

Switzerland has Drive-In car ports paid by taxpayer dollars where you can play.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/drive-sex-boxes-prostitution-built-taxpayers-wild-success-switzerland-182306115.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;3920377]Switzerland has Drive-In car ports paid by taxpayer dollars where you can play.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/drive-sex-boxes-prostitution-built-taxpayers-wild-success-switzerland-182306115.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I know where I'm going on vacation now.

[QUOTE=JustTry;3920675]I know where I'm going on vacation now.[/QUOTE]They've been there for years and years.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3919911]I thoroughly enjoy DATY and not long ago I was with a girl who wasn't totally shaved. She was well kept, manicured and clean, but not smooth and bald. She sat on my face and got into the DATY with a lot of rocking back and forth and as I was driving home I happened to look in the mirror and saw that some of the area around my mouth was red and bruised looking. It looked like someone punched me or took some sandpaper to my mouth. Later that evening I was out with friends and it was obviously noticeable because one of them asked me about it. I made up a story that I was yanking on something with a pair of pliers and that it suddenly broke loose and I ended up hitting myself in the mouth. I got away with it but I'm curious if anyone else has ever had this happen. Saffy was NOT the one who did it but I've only seen her one time for fear of it happening again. Just thought I'd throw it out there.[/QUOTE]I get the same type of redness after eating green mangoes. One time my sister saw the redness around my mouth I got from intense DATY and her comment was why I didn't share the mangoes. I just told her I only had one.

[QUOTE=DNut;3924814]I get the same type of redness after eating green mangoes. One time my sister saw the redness around my mouth I got from intense DATY and her comment was why I didn't share the mangoes. I just told her I only had one.[/QUOTE]Lmao. I have to think of how to incorporate my own food allergies into that excuse if that ever happens to me! Quick thinking D. .

Gentlemen, I just stumbled across this site that has copied the old BP layout and such. Just curious if anyone else had found it yet, and what you might think!

[URL]https://cincinnati.adlist24.com/escorts?mediaType=1[/URL]

UPDATE: After spending a few more minutes there, I've noticed that every ad has an email address instead of a local phone number. That's weird...

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3929740]Gentlemen, I just stumbled across this site that has copied the old BP layout and such. Just curious if anyone else had found it yet, and what you might think!

[URL]https://cincinnati.adlist24.com/escorts?mediaType=1[/URL]

UPDATE: After spending a few more minutes there, I've noticed that every ad has an email address instead of a local phone number. That's weird...[/QUOTE]Just a casual glance and I don't see any Cincy ladies I recognize. Looks like a scam to me but I've been wrong before.

[QUOTE=ILikeWatch;3929765]Just a casual glance and I don't see any Cincy ladies I recognize. Looks like a scam to me but I've been wrong before.[/QUOTE]The ad for the school teacher on the 2nd page is a photo shoot from an old open video!

[QUOTE=RajReddy;3936786]I was informed that hobbyists have reached Gia asking for BBFS. And citing my review! Just to clarify.

BBFS is NOT AVAILABLE. ISLAND visit is not available.

The word "except" above means its not available. Is it that difficult to read / understand? Whoever read this and went ahead asking for BBFS. Use your other head.[/QUOTE]I think using the frontslash instead of something like, "All acronyms except island visit [B]or[/B] bareback were available", is what threw people off. Some probably saw it as a pause, followed by the words "bareback was available. ". That's how I read it at first too but I quickly realized what you meant.

Sometimes our best efforts to communicate go misunderstood, especially in written word. Glad you clarified, and sorry she had to deal with that.

LL.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3813991]Is anyone having trouble accessing the site? For example, right now, my browser times out. Which made me think maybe the servers were overloaded. But with a VPN, it comes right up.[/QUOTE]No idea but I am on with no vpn.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3813991]Is anyone having trouble accessing the site? For example, right now, my browser times out. Which made me think maybe the servers were overloaded. But with a VPN, it comes right up.[/QUOTE]When I can't access this site I can't access the classifieds either. I wait a bit and all is well. I think its the elvin fuckstick jeff sessions cronies periodically doxing the site to save ourselves from ourselves.

I wasn't sure myself as to what was correct / proper use of "/" so I Googled it.

The use of "/" was proper according to this link:

[URL]https://www.grammarly.com/blog/slash/[/URL]

Now to the meat of the issue. How did the guys ask about BBFS? It always comes down to what is said.

If in your initial contact you said "You review said BBFS is available" then the lady might get pissy because she told the guy who reviewed her "I don't normally do this, so let's keep it between us. ".

Probably the best way to broach the subject is during the session. She will either ask "how do you want to do it with or without a condom?" Then you decide. Or when she reaches for the condom on the nightstand you ask "is that really necessary?" Then she decides, maybe she might want to do it because she likes it better herself or she has a comfort level for doing it with you that she doesn't have with others.

Then you have those ladies who just go for it without discussion leaving it to you to stop her. That to me is the "Ultimate GFE" where the appointment just goes with the flow naturally.

No matter what, it's still her decision.

[QUOTE=LuvnLivn;3936879]I think using the frontslash instead of something like, "All acronyms except island visit [B]or[/B] bareback were available", is what threw people off. Some probably saw it as a pause, followed by the words "bareback was available. ". That's how I read it at first too but I quickly realized what you meant.

Sometimes our best efforts to communicate go misunderstood, especially in written word. Glad you clarified, and sorry she had to deal with that.

LL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RajReddy;3936786]I was informed that hobbyists have reached Gia asking for BBFS. And citing my review! Just to clarify.

BBFS is NOT AVAILABLE. ISLAND visit is not available.

The word "except" above means its not available. Is it that difficult to read / understand? Whoever read this and went ahead asking for BBFS. Use your other head.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuvnLivn;3936879]I think using the frontslash instead of something like, "All acronyms except island visit [B]or[/B] bareback were available", is what threw people off. Some probably saw it as a pause, followed by the words "bareback was available. ". That's how I read it at first too but I quickly realized what you meant.

Sometimes our best efforts to communicate go misunderstood, especially in written word. Glad you clarified, and sorry she had to deal with that.

LL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;3937827]I wasn't sure myself as to what was correct / proper use of "/" so I Googled it.

The use of "/" was proper according to this link:

[URL]https://www.grammarly.com/blog/slash/[/URL]

Now to the meat of the issue. How did the guys ask about BBFS? It always comes down to what is said.

If in your initial contact you said "You review said BBFS is available" then the lady might get pissy because she told the guy who reviewed her "I don't normally do this, so let's keep it between us. ".

Probably the best way to broach the subject is during the session. She will either ask "how do you want to do it with or without a condom?" Then you decide. Or when she reaches for the condom on the nightstand you ask "is that really necessary?" Then she decides, maybe she might want to do it because she likes it better herself or she has a comfort level for doing it with you that she doesn't have with others.

Then you have those ladies who just go for it without discussion leaving it to you to stop her. That to me is the "Ultimate GFE" where the appointment just goes with the flow naturally.

No matter what, it's still her decision.[/QUOTE][B]Raj[/B] posts what could be a confusing wave-off for BBFS. Girl gets asked if she does BBFS and Raj needs to come clarify. [B]Luvn[/B] calls it pretty well, and now [B]BTBear[/B] starts his [I]old-monger-in-the-mountain[/I] routine and we start getting War and Peace over the various possibilities surrounding BBFS. Internet prepares to be broken.

Is it so hard for her just to ignore the guys asking for BBFS? Happens almost all the time. These chicks don't need everyone jumping on to interpret the mysterious ways of mongers.