"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Zman429;1362993]Maybe she's worried about the out of town, maybe she's busy who knows. Been thru this myself sometimes things cool down then heat up again[/QUOTE]She just popped back in my life last week and I have seen her twice. The sex is better than ever, she fucks me like she missed me more than I missed her. Never thought it was going to happen, I thought she was gone for good and then out of the blue a text and we were back at it. She might be gone tomorrow for all I know but I am in it to win it for now. Emotions are a real M*F*er but if we didn't have them would life really be worth living? Did I mention the sex is unbelievable, oh yeah I did, well that is primarily do to the old adage "Absence makes your dick extremely rigid!" or something like that.

LL

It is totally unacceptable IMHO for a SB to disappear without so much as a Kiss My AZZ, fare the well. This is a major sign of low class dirt ball Nando type 1 behavior. Lucky, I'm happy for you brother that your sex goddess "popped back in " to your life (and pelvis) , but just be aware that she can and will just as easily go again.

My 1st SB several years ago did that to me. She never was a good communicator anyway and it frustrated me no end, but just cut off all comm and went for a year. Then she popped back up several months ago wanting money. She is actually blackmailing me. I'm like." WTF? You dump me and now you want me to bail you out?". I'm done with her. So my point here is to avoid these irresponsible inconsiderate wenches. If you have a relationship with them, then they owe you to tell you when they are moving on. Also realize that they can compromise you in a New York minute, so stick with higher quality self sufficient girls.

[QUOTE=Hernando; 1363474]It is totally unacceptable IMHO for a SB to disappear without so much as a Kiss My AZZ, fare the well. This is a major sign of low class dirt ball Nando type 1 behavior. Lucky, I'm happy for you brother that your sex goddess "popped back in " to your life (and pelvis) , but just be aware that she can and will just as easily go again.

My 1st SB several years ago did that to me. She never was a good communicator anyway and it frustrated me no end, but just cut off all comm and went for a year. Then she popped back up several months ago wanting money. She is actually blackmailing me. I'm like." WTF? You dump me and now you want me to bail you out?". I'm done with her. So my point here is to avoid these irresponsible inconsiderate wenches. If you have a relationship with them, then they owe you to tell you when they are moving on. Also realize that they can compromise you in a New York minute, so stick with higher quality self sufficient girls.[/QUOTE]Nando,

I very much appreciate your point of view on this topic. I am guilty (as I am sure many are) of simply forgetting past behavior when my dick is happy. That alone should be cause for concern or at least reflection on the part of the big head. I was hesitant to post on this forum because I am not sure this particular person qualifies as an SB since I know I was not her only squeeze back when we were hot and heavy but she lead me to believe she didn't have the same level of involvement with the others (Yea, I know you are all having a good laugh and believe me I am not above laughing at myself for buying that crap). When we spent time together it was very enjoyable for me so WTF did I care! This also is one of the reasons I don't post on this forum frequently because I doubt whether I have a true SD SB relationship. However, to your point, she has resurfaced not simply because she has realized she aint gettin the luvin I'm givin no where else but because she needs $$$. I have never considered the blackmail angle but you are very correct to point that out because $$$ can cause people to do things they normally wouldn't. You have caused me to pause and reflect on what her actions both past and present mean in terms of possible future behavior and for that I am grateful. I have benefited immensely from the postings on this forum and want to contribute what I can. Thank you for sharing and keeping me level headed.

LL

[QUOTE=Snake27; 1360537] (On the other hand, one could argue that if you cannot afford $35 / mo for the site then why try to be a sugar daddy?). I suppose one could try a temporary credit card with 3 months worth of money on it. I'm wondering what your experiences are?

Recently, I did sign up (without paying) for a SD site and browsed around. It looked promising and worth a $100 gamble. Funny thing is, although my profile didn't appear anywhere (since I did not pay) , for several days I got a bunch of e-mails from alleged site members who were hot young women with attractive photographs inviting me to sign up. Funny![/QUOTE]Snake,

Don't even contemplate paying to be a member of whatever site you are referring to here. At one time, I had paid-up memberships on all the major SB sites, and had difficulties cancelling when I had to grudgingly admit to myself that most of the contacts I was getting were from fake profiles who were shilling for pay-per-view cam sites. It's not about the money, it's the principle. If I'm going to get fucked, I want it to be by an HYB, not some fat Russian dude. Bottom line, if your profile isn't yet visible, and you're getting hits, they're fake, and the site itself should be viewed as such as well, or at least with a great deal of skepticism.
As I have said previously, SA is, for me, the sine qua non of SB sites. Sugardaddy4me is second, but in my area at least the babies on that site were a little skankier, with the exception of one little fish that I could never convince to rise to my presentation. I kept renewing in the hopes that I could lure her to the net, but alas, no joy. If you review the thread, you will find that these two sites are the odds-on favorites, with SD4M being hard to cancel, and therefore perhaps the slightly less desirable of the two. Browse them both and go with the one that has the most intriguing babies in your area and in your opinion.

Whatever you contemplate, remember to trust your instincts; if it smells like a duck, it probably walks like one too, or something like that.

Scott

[QUOTE=Hernando;1363474]It is totally unacceptable IMHO for a SB to disappear without so much as a Kiss My AZZ, fare the well. This is a major sign of low class dirt ball Nando type 1 behavior.[/QUOTE]This seems to be the modern method the modern woman uses to say good bye. It sends a clear message and avoids drama.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1363931]This seems to be the modern method the modern woman uses to say good bye. It sends a clear message and avoids drama.[/QUOTE]Before we excoriate these babies for hiding behind their technological cloak of invisibility, shouldn't we all admit that we have donned that same garment ourselves once or twice? It only stings if you're the one getting slapped. This from a man, I will freely admit, who seems to be getting slapped at the moment, but in stages.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1363931]This seems to be the modern method the modern woman uses to say good bye. It sends a clear message and avoids drama.[/QUOTE]This is the standard break-up method I use when I'm dating a civilian. If I've only banged a girl a couple times, and I don't really like her or respect her, I'll just stop returning phone calls and texts. They almost always get the message.

Of course, if I've known her longer and we've developed a friendship, then I treat them with more respect. But that's because I like her.

As for sugar babies, it pretty much operates the same way. Communication only happens for logistical purposes or to check availability. When communication stops, it's not personal. Just business.

But I've been in a few situations where a sugar baby turned into a genuine friend and girlfriend / lover (who stopped asking for money) , and the breakups eventually had all the drama of a normal civilian breakup.

[QUOTE=F Scott;1363880]Don't even contemplate paying to be a member of whatever site you are referring to here.[/QUOTE]An interesting observation. Even more interesting: before I'd paid to join SA, before I even had a pic posted, I was got at least two "winks". So yeah, a lot of sites use fake profiles to "robo-respond" to guys to get them to join up (been there, done that too) , that doesn't mean they're all fakes. I'm also not sure all the profiles on SA are "real" either, given some of the experiences I've had there already, which brings me to the question part of the post.

I had one SB who contacted me fairly early on. The usual drill: wink, message, response, more messages, more responses. In this case, though, the SB sent me an email address and asked if I'd 'contact her off the site'. Past experience has taught me that this is usually Step #1 to getting you to sign up for a pay-per-view porn site or a "cam show" site. I sent her a response back indicating taht I'd be happy to keep discussing matters, if she'd stick with the site email service. Haven't heard from her since, so now to the question for the experts: did I guess right, or did I run off a HYB who might happily have met me for several hours worth of sweaty fun?

I have only been at this about 1 month but have few observations from my time on SA.

Good luck with taking them off the site to my email account or fun phone. Then eventually we connect up. They really seem to like the phone call after a few texts.

Yes a bunch of pros and semi-pros on SA but have 4 on the hook right now who are not. Of course only one to the FC so we shall see. Talk is cheap but results count!

It is alot of work, time, etc trying to reel them in. It certainly is not like a pro. And time counts for $$

CL worthless where I am.

I openly list in my profile I am married. While only one has openly said no married guys I wonder if that keeps the young stuff away. But I want them to know upfront NSA so get it in the open

Happy hunting

[QUOTE=Castlerae; 1364577]An interesting observation. Even more interesting: before I'd paid to join SA, before I even had a pic posted, I was got at least two "winks". So yeah, a lot of sites use fake profiles to "robo-respond" to guys to get them to join up (been there, done that too) , that doesn't mean they're all fakes. I'm also not sure all the profiles on SA are "real" either, given some of the experiences I've had there already, which brings me to the question part of the post.

I had one SB who contacted me fairly early on. The usual drill: wink, message, response, more messages, more responses. In this case, though, the SB sent me an email address and asked if I'd 'contact her off the site'. Past experience has taught me that this is usually Step #1 to getting you to sign up for a pay-per-view porn site or a "cam show" site. I sent her a response back indicating taht I'd be happy to keep discussing matters, if she'd stick with the site email service. Haven't heard from her since, so now to the question for the experts: did I guess right, or did I run off a HYB who might happily have met me for several hours worth of sweaty fun?[/QUOTE]Castle,

I think you might, and I stress might, have blown it. I make it standard operating procedure to move communications off of the site and onto a dedicated yahoo email. I do this for a couple of reasons: I think it makes it seem more personal and less anonymous, and if I decide to let my subscription lapse, I have a way to keep in contact. The fact that she did not respond further might not necessarily mean she was trying to lure you onto a cam-site; you may have just scared her off. They can be skittish, these babies.

My question to you is, what did you have to lose to take it one step further? The come-on, if it was a scam, would have been apparent fairly quickly. Don't loose any sleep over it, though. There are plenty of babies just around the corner.

Scott

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1364880]Castle,

My question to you is, what did you have to lose to take it one step further? The come-on, if it was a scam, would have been apparent fairly quickly. Don't loose any sleep over it, though. There are plenty of babies just around the corner.

Scott[/QUOTE]Again, from past experience, once I've had an email address "in play" as far as pay-per-view porn and cam shows go, what usually happens next was lots and lots of spam from similar sites. I have had to abandon more than a couple of email accounts for just this reason. Yes, I know, yahoo and the rest have plenty more free email accounts available, it's just the hassle of having to set up yet-another disposable email account tha makes it something I don't like to do if I don't have to. Not all of the SB's seem to need to move things off-site, as I'm supposed to meet one tomorrow for lunch for a preliminary meeting. She was more than happy to set arrangements up through the site, so I'll go meet her and see what happens. If the first one was legit, well, as you said, there others out there, so she'll just be one that got away.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1363880]Snake,

As I have said previously, SA is, for me, the sine qua non of SB sites. Sugardaddy4me is second, but in my area at least the babies on that site were a little skankier, with the exception of one little fish that I could never convince to rise to my presentation. I kept renewing in the hopes that I could lure her to the net, but alas, no joy. If you review the thread, you will find that these two sites are the odds-on favorites, with SD4M being hard to cancel, and therefore perhaps the slightly less desirable of the two. Browse them both and go with the one that has the most intriguing babies in your area and in your opinion.

Scott[/QUOTE]Also don't forget, sugardaddie dot com. I use both it and SA. Most of my success has been with sugardaddie, it has an instant chat feature and they do not auto-bill.

BigTigg

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1366272]Also don't forget, sugardaddie dot com. I use both it and SA. Most of my success has been with sugardaddie, it has an instant chat feature and they do not auto-bill.

BigTigg[/QUOTE]Tigg, once you join is there a way to narrow the geographic area of the search on sugardaddie? Or is the best you can do is search by the entire state?

Well, the first meeting went off, and not well. The girl was quite nice looking, and friendly enough, but once the preliminaries were out of the way and we started talking about arrangements, it became clear she wanted sugar first, and a good deal of it, but when it came down to what I might get in return for my investment, it came down to nothing. Yeah, I feel sorry for her, and times are tough, but for the amount of cash she was wanting ($$$/wk) , I'd expect more than the chance to have lunch with her (all she'd commit to) on weekends.

Oh well, on to the next one.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1366426]Tigg, once you join is there a way to narrow the geographic area of the search on sugardaddie? Or is the best you can do is search by the entire state?[/QUOTE]No, unfortunately not, their search stinks. I hate that you can't use zip codes or search within a radius.

JT

Two favorite sites of mine:

[url]http://www.betterbidding.com/[/url]

That gives you the inside deal on the winning bids from Priceline and Hotwire.

And.

[url]https://www.torproject.org/[/url]

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1361746]Don't forget Hotwire, I'm a walking advertisement for them.

Examples:

Maryland Holiday Inn. $57 per night (Got 2 nights and hit 2 different SBs)

Maryland Candlewood Suites. $54.

Maryland Westin. $72.

New Jersery Sheraton. $89.

Maryland Hyatt Regency. $94 (This was less than 50% of published price)

Philadelphia Embassy Suites. $83 (Another great deal) [/QUOTE]

Gentlemen,

A sugar brother who has requested anonymity sent me a pm recently, part of which I am quoting here: "In reading one of the sugar baby blogs, a very interesting website was mentioned that I checked out today and nearly wet myself. Have you ever heard of pipl. Com? It is a people search website, but, unlike other site's I have seen, this one has tons of information (read: of the incriminating type) available to the casual surfer without even getting into the purchasing of Archive. Com or the like. And I know this because I checked on myself, just using first and last names. Yikes! Everything, including EVERY addressed I have ever lived at, including the current one! Wife's name, my work place, everything! This is very disturbing even if I wasn't a player! All a disgruntled baby would need is the name off of a receipt, vehicle registration, credit card, etc and she would know everything. Not good! I know you preach the message of keeping sterile but it would only take one slip up. So, along with passing along this, I would ask if it is possible to erase this crap! Some sort of application, one time eraser service, something? Possibly one of the mongering crew would know."

I pipled myself, and he's right! Fortunately there are a lot of guys with my name across the country, and even quite a few in my area (who knew?) , but still, the potential for mayhem by an angry baby is out there. Does anyone know of an erasing service, as he suggests?

I will copy this post to the "Legal issues" thread as well.

Best,

Scott

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1368663]Does anyone know of an erasing service, as he suggests?

I will copy this post to the "Legal issues" thread as well.

Best,

Scott[/QUOTE]FScott,

Good post! Scary shit! When you pipl someone there is a link to remove the data from the internet that takes you here.

[url]https://www.reputation.com/myprivacy[/url]

Sounds like it might provide what you are looking for. I would still be interested in someone who has first had knowledge.

LL

Gentlemen,

I had an interesting and kind of thrilling-in-a-dangerous-sort-of-way experience the other evening that I thought I might share with you. I'm not sure that there is any immediately relevant take-away to my tale, but here it is nonetheless.

I was having dinner with the family at a restaurant in the city and who should walk in, (with an obvious SD, may I say) , than one of my previously-fucked babies! The hostess guided the pair directly past our table, and she and I had several long seconds of direct eye contact, so there was no way she did not recognize me, nor I her. As best as I could interpret the look in her eyes, it was "well, well, fancy seeing you here." Needless to say, my head was swimming and my gut was icy, at least at first. Oddly, the noise in the restaurant also seemed to disappear, at least for a minute or two, to be replaced by the loud pounding of my heart.

I was pretty sure she would not make any kind of scene, as we had parted on friendly enough terms, so I was mostly concentrating on getting my various bodily functions under control, staying present in the conversation that was going on at my table, and crafting a set of responses to various scenarios if she did happen to come over to our table to say hello. Fortunately, nothing happened, but I swear I could feel her eyes on the back of my head the rest of the meal. It is a surreal experience to be both in your body and outside of it, watching yourself, in this instance, eat a meal and making sure what you are doing looks normal. I have to say it was kind of a rush, but I recognize I am only saying that because nothing catastrophic occurred, thank you baby Jesus.

On the drive home, I was grateful that my SD profile name bears no resemblance at all to my real name, and that I have tried through all of my fishing to keep a consistent, and completely misleading identity as far as all my baby activities are concerned. So far, at least, so good.

At the end of the evening, as we were getting ready for bed, my SO asked if I had noticed the young woman and her much-older date that were sitting at a table behind me. I made some non-committal response, and she went on to tell me that they were all over each other all evening long, and how disgusting it was. "He was old enough to be her father" was one of the phrases used, if memory serves. As I sympathized with her, I secretly indulged in the memory of me fucking that baby with her legs over my shoulders and her hands pulling my hips into her, hard. It was a heady brew, my brothers, but only because there was no painful tab to be paid at the end of the evening.

I guess if there is any moral to this story, it is this: remember to always stay in character with your babies, never willingly reveal your true identity, and try to part on good terms.

Keep up the good work, my brothers, and don't forget to write.

Scott

Guys, just be aware than in many cases, sites like pipl are run by the reputation-defender company; the pipl site's purpose is to drive business to the defender company. I've heard both good and not-so-good results out of these reputation companies. YMMV, so keep your expectations in check.

Scott,

I think your recent experience is symbolic of the reasons we partake of this pastime (obsession?). Indeed isn't it the rush of something new and exciting that leads us here? I hate to say it, but I haven't been as diligent as you in protecting my real identity from my sb's. Since I live in a much smaller community than you, I make it a point to not "shit where I eat" to quote Tony Soprano, so I'm pretty sure I would never run into an acquaintance that I had experienced in the FC. Saying that however, I have actually seen a couple of ladies I saw from back in my escorting days, but in neither instance did they see me.

I'm not sure about you, but the attraction for me is feeling that heart pounding and experiencing something new as my life has become pretty routine and uninspiring. Not to say I would want to run into an old sb during dinner, but the rush had to be interesting to say the least. I'm just glad the evening ended without incident. I think it would be interesting to hear if either of you contacted the other afterwards, to share a laugh if nothing else.

[QUOTE=Magic Rat; 1371390]Scott,

I think it would be interesting to hear if either of you contacted the other afterwards, to share a laugh if nothing else.[/QUOTE]I hadn't thought of doing that. Honestly, I was glad to have dodged a possible bullet (if that can be done). In thinking more about it, there would have been no benefit to her to "out" me except vindictiveness, and as I said, we parted amicably, but you are right, Magic, the rush was intense.

Scott

I now have had 3 blackmailers.all from my escorting days, and two quasi escort / SB. All qualified as Nando 1.desperately poor and substance abusers. Obviously they saw me enough to discover who I am and hit on me. It is impossible to see someone a lot and not have them know who you are IMHO.

My suggestion to prevent this is to stay away from the Type 1's .never let that "white knight" personality prevail.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1366426]Tigg, once you join is there a way to narrow the geographic area of the search on sugardaddie? Or is the best you can do is search by the entire state?[/QUOTE]You can it's under the advanced new option you enter a zipcode and give it a range, bit hard to find but it is there.

[QUOTE=Castlerae; 1364577]An interesting observation. Even more interesting: before I'd paid to join SA, before I even had a pic posted, I was got at least two "winks". So yeah, a lot of sites use fake profiles to "robo-respond" to guys to get them to join up (been there, done that too) , that doesn't mean they're all fakes. I'm also not sure all the profiles on SA are "real" either, given some of the experiences I've had there already, which brings me to the question part of the post.

I had one SB who contacted me fairly early on. The usual drill: wink, message, response, more messages, more responses. In this case, though, the SB sent me an email address and asked if I'd 'contact her off the site'. Past experience has taught me that this is usually Step #1 to getting you to sign up for a pay-per-view porn site or a "cam show" site. I sent her a response back indicating taht I'd be happy to keep discussing matters, if she'd stick with the site email service. Haven't heard from her since, so now to the question for the experts: did I guess right, or did I run off a HYB who might happily have met me for several hours worth of sweaty fun?[/QUOTE]Why not email her, if she sends you to signup site asks for webcam your done

[QUOTE=Zman429;1371723]You can it's under the advanced new option you enter a zipcode and give it a range, bit hard to find but it is there.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I know about the seeking arrangement site, but I was asking about sugardaddie. Com

I too was shocked when I typed in my name on the Pipl site. Yet another good reason to try to never let them know your full name.

Fortunately, it works the other way as well. I've been able to find facebook pages for a couple of ladies I've emailed just by keying in their email address.

Well this certainly is an interesting hobby. I signed up for SA on jan 3rd, inspired by the gentlemen here. Tried the "just in town. Let's meet"

First tartget is a 30 YO waitress. Meet in bar near her home for a beer. Well waitress yes and also part time stripper. Though she is very active on SA. Said she had to go to work but call her later. Did but no answer. Next week we are price negotiating. She's a little high but just not the right vibe so on the backburner.

Next up is MILF. We have dinner and promise to see each other again. Next time fucked my brains out (she was very very good) once we agreed on appropriate sugar. In the end I think the commitment was more important than the actual dollar amount. So she will be SB1 and regular for now as great sex, good personality and ready to please. Made a point that sugar in forms other than cash is all ok.

Met a mid 30's for a "drink " which wound up being 4 drinks, etc. Moaned about her life the whole time and provided nothing. OK I was duped.

Mid 20's girl who will not come over but meet for a drink. Downs 4 bloody marys in record time and opens up. Ex stripper, sister is ex stripper, Mom is big on the dom scene and all on SA! Glad for subsequent meetings and road head to drop her off. Could not see the body so not sure of overall. Sugar requirement for get togethers is higher than I like and she will not budge. Onto the backburner.

For next week is the SB1 for a morning and evening session, and another MILF and a late 20's. Negotiating meeting places. I am pretty damn busy! Not sure how I have time for work!

Can a Daddy return to an ATF Sugarbabe and fuck her like before when he has ignored her for eight months?

We shall see, as I am scheduled to meet sb4 and her perfect ass later today.

[QUOTE=Hernando; 1371409]I now have had 3 blackmailers. All from my escorting days, and two quasi escort / SB. All qualified as Nando 1. Desperately poor and substance abusers. Obviously they saw me enough to discover who I am and hit on me. It is impossible to see someone a lot and not have them know who you are IMHO.

My suggestion to prevent this is to stay away from the Type 1's. Never let that "white knight" personality prevail.[/QUOTE]This is good advice Nando. Of course the Nando 1's (who are impoverished compulsives as I recall) are often the easiest to fuck.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1371398]I hadn't thought of doing that. Honestly, I was glad to have dodged a possible bullet (if that can be done). In thinking more about it, there would have been no benefit to her to "out" me except vindictiveness, and as I said, we parted amicably, but you are right, Magic, the rush was intense.

Scott[/QUOTE]You are a Dare Devil, Mr Scott. If one of my SBs walked in while I was eating with the fam, I would need the Heimlich Maneuver.

[QUOTE=Magic Rat; 1371390]Scott,

I think your recent experience is symbolic of the reasons we partake of this pastime (obsession?). Indeed isn't it the rush of something new and exciting that leads us here? I hate to say it, but I haven't been as diligent as you in protecting my real identity from my sb's. Since I live in a much smaller community than you, I make it a point to not "shit where I eat" to quote Tony Soprano, so I'm pretty sure I would never run into an acquaintance that I had experienced in the FC. Saying that however, I have actually seen a couple of ladies I saw from back in my escorting days, but in neither instance did they see me.

I'm not sure about you, but the attraction for me is feeling that heart pounding and experiencing something new as my life has become pretty routine and uninspiring. Not to say I would want to run into an old sb during dinner, but the rush had to be interesting to say the least. I'm just glad the evening ended without incident. I think it would be interesting to hear if either of you contacted the other afterwards, to share a laugh if nothing else.[/QUOTE]I agree the thrill of clandestine activity is one attraction of our little hobby. For me it is comparable (but inferior) to the thrill of closing in on the sugarbaby's vagina for the first time. The first touch under her panties, the first taste, the first scent, the first penetration, of a new baby's vagina are sublime, deeply satisfying and supremely thrilling in anticipation of what is about to happen. I sometimes ask the girl after she's made herself comfortable in the fucking chamber and maybe I've kissed her a few times,"what do you think is going to happen now?"

Gentlemen,

I hope you all remember the saga of me finding an old employee on SA, contacting her as my alter-ego, and indulging in sexy talk and ultimately getting some outstanding naked pictures from her. Well, yesterday I took it one step closer to the edge of the cliff, so to speak, and I'm kind of conflicted.

I contacted her and arranged a "meeting" in the city on the steps of the Art Institute. I told her that we could take a look around inside if she wanted, or go to a nearby Starbucks and talk. The weather here has been unseasonably warm, so I did not feel bad about asking her to stand outside to wait for me. The plan was to drive by until I saw that she was there, then take off and text later saying something had come up. My thinking here was to see if she still looked as hot in person as she did years ago, and maybe get a little thrill out of it in the bargain.

All went off as planned, and I got a visual confirmation that the hotness quotient is still as high as ever, contacted her later with my "excuse", and that was that - [B]except[/B]: I now feel really guilty that I jerked her chain and made her waste time waiting for me when I knew full well that I wasn't going to show up just to add to my personal fantasy script. I guess I am sharing this with the brotherhood with the intent of reminding us all, myself included, that many of these little babies are not masquerading pros, they are real people, with real lives and feelings, and we should do as Lit so wisely counseled,"do no harm" or something like that. I may try and figure out a way to send her a few grains of sugar to assuage my guilt. Or I could wait a few more days until it passes, which I know it will. Meanwhile, no more joy with my ATF. It may be over for good. I know I keep whining about this, and if I am becoming tediously similar to that guy in high school that we all tried to avoid because he was such a downer, please someone let me know.

Otherwise, keep up the good work. I have had several enjoyable exchanges via pm with a number of brothers, and I urge you all to dedicate yourselves to your pursuit of your little fish, and then let us know how it went.

Lastly, Lit, your post about the first touch under the panties and so on - pure poetry. Would you be willing to call me and talk like that some time? (just kidding)

Scott

[QUOTE=Literal2;1374459]You are a Dare Devil, Mr Scott. If one of my SBs walked in while I was eating with the fam, I would need the Heimlich Maneuver.[/QUOTE]I was kind of wishing I had been wearing a Depenz, honestly, if I'm spelling that correctly. My other thought was to get up to go to the bathroom and then just never come back. People get amnesia all the time, don't they?

Though once I ascertained that there would be no nuclear destruction of my life, the adrenaline buzz was an enjoyable addition to the pinot buzz. I'm not sure my heart could take a steady diet of it, however.

Gentlemen,

One last post before I impose radio silence for the weekend. I was in my local Trader Joe's on Wednesday, buying a few specialty items for the rest of the week's dinners, and found myself in line behind a very attractive 30ish young woman. She had a nose ring, a couple of visible tats, a very artistic outfit on, and some streaks of jet black in her short, spiky blonde hair. I mention this because my experience in the baby world has now alerted me to some details that many of these little fish have in common. My experience has also made me much more adept at talking to hot young women, so on a lark, I said the following: "Excuse me, I'm married, so I promise that this is not coming from some weird place, but I just have to tell you that I think you are one of the most interesting people I have laid eyes on all day long."

I have to back up a little at this point and say that as we were standing in line she had looked back at me and smiled, and I had been obviously looking at her, so it wasn't like I suddenly tapped her on the shoulder or anything. In any event, we got to talking, and it turns out she is a graphic design student at an art school in the city, and pursuing it as a second career after getting married to a Loser didn't work out quite the way she had planned. I introduced myself as my SA name, and casually dropped that I come to this TJ's every Wednesday at this same time, and hoped that I might run into her again. I promised to buy her a bottle of the wine she had in her basket if I did. It was all very fun, flirty, and casual, which I find is kind of the attitude at Trader Joe's, at least around here.

Now I have no expectations that she will be there next week, but [I]I[/I] certainly will, and we shall see what happens. Wouldn't that be fun?

What a world, huh?

Scott

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1375567]Gentlemen,

I hope you all remember the saga of me finding an old employee on SA, contacting her as my alter-ego, and indulging in sexy talk and ultimately getting some outstanding naked pictures from her. Well, yesterday I took it one step closer to the edge of the cliff, so to speak, and I'm kind of conflicted.

I contacted her and arranged a "meeting" in the city on the steps of the Art Institute. I told her that we could take a look around inside if she wanted, or go to a nearby Starbucks and talk. The weather here has been unseasonably warm, so I did not feel bad about asking her to stand outside to wait for me. The plan was to drive by until I saw that she was there, then take off and text later saying something had come up. My thinking here was to see if she still looked as hot in person as she did years ago, and maybe get a little thrill out of it in the bargain.

All went off as planned, and I got a visual confirmation that the hotness quotient is still as high as ever, contacted her later with my "excuse", and that was that. [B]except[/B]: I now feel really guilty that I jerked her chain and made her waste time waiting for me when I knew full well that I wasn't going to show up just to add to my personal fantasy script. I guess I am sharing this with the brotherhood with the intent of reminding us all, myself included, that many of these little babies are not masquerading pros, they are real people, with real lives and feelings, and we should do as Lit so wisely counseled,"do no harm" or something like that. I may try and figure out a way to send her a few grains of sugar to assuage my guilt. Or I could wait a few more days until it passes, which I know it will.

Scott[/QUOTE]Maybe a small gift card, if you can get it to her without any trail back to you. Have a random kid leave an envelope at the store with her name on it, then email her to go in.

Considering that she used to work for you, and knows your real name and business, I'd recommend not trying to take things any further.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1375567]Gentlemen,

I hope you all remember the saga of me finding an old employee on SA, contacting her as my alter-ego, and indulging in sexy talk and ultimately getting some outstanding naked pictures from her. Well, yesterday I took it one step closer to the edge of the cliff, so to speak, and I'm kind of conflicted.

I contacted her and arranged a "meeting" in the city on the steps of the Art Institute. I told her that we could take a look around inside if she wanted, or go to a nearby Starbucks and talk. The weather here has been unseasonably warm, so I did not feel bad about asking her to stand outside to wait for me. The plan was to drive by until I saw that she was there, then take off and text later saying something had come up. My thinking here was to see if she still looked as hot in person as she did years ago, and maybe get a little thrill out of it in the bargain.

All went off as planned, and I got a visual confirmation that the hotness quotient is still as high as ever, contacted her later with my "excuse", and that was that. [B]except[/B]: I now feel really guilty that I jerked her chain and made her waste time waiting for me when I knew full well that I wasn't going to show up just to add to my personal fantasy script. I guess I am sharing this with the brotherhood with the intent of reminding us all, myself included, that many of these little babies are not masquerading pros, they are real people, with real lives and feelings, and we should do as Lit so wisely counseled,"do no harm" or something like that. I may try and figure out a way to send her a few grains of sugar to assuage my guilt. Or I could wait a few more days until it passes, which I know it will. Meanwhile, no more joy with my ATF. It may be over for good. I know I keep whining about this, and if I am becoming tediously similar to that guy in high school that we all tried to avoid because he was such a downer, please someone let me know.

Otherwise, keep up the good work. I have had several enjoyable exchanges via pm with a number of brothers, and I urge you all to dedicate yourselves to your pursuit of your little fish, and then let us know how it went.

Lastly, Lit, your post about the first touch under the panties and so on. Pure poetry. Would you be willing to call me and talk like that some time? (just kidding)

Scott[/QUOTE]I know I'm not the most senior poster here, but it seems to me like you're getting addicted to playing with fire. Question: if you were driving your own car (and you don't say you were in a taxi in your post) , what would have happened if she'd recognized it, and started putting the clues together? Maybe you should send her a little something for toying with her all this time, but it might also be a good idea if you let it go. As the old saying goes, there's pushing your luck, then there's doing something really stupid. Maybe it's time to start thinking about which one you're doing?

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1375644]Maybe a small gift card, if you can get it to her without any trail back to you. Have a random kid leave an envelope at the store with her name on it, then email her to go in.

Considering that she used to work for you, and knows your real name and business, I'd recommend not trying to take things any further.[/QUOTE]That's good advice.

Scott, if you arrange a real meeting prepare for her to feel betrayed. She'll know you knew it was her all along. It could get messy and nasty very quickly!

Agree with you Spitfire. Too dangerous for me. Time to move on.

[QUOTE=Castlerae;1375725]Question: if you were driving your own car (and you don't say you were in a taxi in your post) , what would have happened if she'd recognized it, and started putting the clues together? Maybe you should send her a little something for toying with her all this time, but it might also be a good idea if you let it go. As the old saying goes, there's pushing your luck, then there's doing something really stupid. Maybe it's time to start thinking about which one you're doing?[/QUOTE]Castle,

I have a new car since the time she worked for me, so I wasn't worried about that. Pushing my luck is probably more the speed of things. I may put a gift card in an envelope with her name written on it and put it under the door where she works some evening after they're closed. I will write with my left hand, of course, so she can't recognize my writing, then send her a final email saying goodbye.

It's all fun and games until someone gets an eye poked out, and that could be me.

Go Patriots!

Scott