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[QUOTE=Cigar Smoke; 1534583]I know, I know. New guy here. LOL first time poster, but long time lurker, been in the AMP scene for several years around town. Has anyone been to the new AMP across from the caddy dealership in hoover?
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Thanks, Smoke[/QUOTE]No, maybe you can TOFFT and report back?
[QUOTE=Peter Parker;1537396]No, maybe you can TOFFT and report back?[/QUOTE]Went by there today. They are at the end of the corner in Patton Chapel Plaza. If you are standing with your back to the Crest dealership they are at your far right. Mary, the one from Houliang in Vestavia, works the appointment booth and catches the phone calls. She recognized me from there. Everything is pretty much the same as Vestavia except for the table shower, which they give you a pair of nylon like bathing suit and a bath robe to change into.
Over all excellent massage and must be running a special because they are about 25 dollars cheaper than the Vestavia one.
Not sure if the Vestavia store and the Hoover store are related but I am certain that was Mary that was there today.
MM out.
[QUOTE=Medical Mal; 1537651]Went by there today. They are at the end of the corner in Patton Chapel Plaza. If you are standing with your back to the Crest dealership they are at your far right. Mary, the one from Houliang in Vestavia, works the appointment booth and catches the phone calls. She recognized me from there. Everything is pretty much the same as Vestavia except for the table shower, which they give you a pair of nylon like bathing suit and a bath robe to change into.
Over all excellent massage and must be running a special because they are about 25 dollars cheaper than the Vestavia one.
Not sure if the Vestavia store and the Hoover store are related but I am certain that was Mary that was there today.
MM out.[/QUOTE]It is owned by the same people. My "therapist" asked if I had tried their "Vestavia location." I asked her which and she said Houliang. That tells me there is nothing extra to be had there.
[QUOTE=Medical Mal; 1537651]Went by there today. They are at the end of the corner in Patton Chapel Plaza. If you are standing with your back to the Crest dealership they are at your far right. Mary, the one from Houliang in Vestavia, works the appointment booth and catches the phone calls. She recognized me from there. Everything is pretty much the same as Vestavia except for the table shower, which they give you a pair of nylon like bathing suit and a bath robe to change into.
Over all excellent massage and must be running a special because they are about 25 dollars cheaper than the Vestavia one.
Not sure if the Vestavia store and the Hoover store are related but I am certain that was Mary that was there today.
MM out.[/QUOTE]I hate this sort of teasing. Why do they offer a table shower if no extras are on the menu? This is a very bad business practice, like a restaurant letting you smell food but not actually taste it. My experience at Houliang was also that no extras were offered and to be honest I didn't find the girl to be attractive or personable.
One other complaint. They make you wear their swim suit for the bath? Sorry guys, I think everyone on here is probably a great guy to hang out with, but I don't want to sit my junk in the same suit that a bunch of why'all have been in too.
What is a "pair of nylon like bathing suit?" In a regular AMP, a table shower to my understanding is to eliminate any doubt as to if someone is LE. That and to clean funky downstairs if need be. I don't understand what the point of getting a table shower with a bathing suit on accomplishes. Whether a place is legit or not, the table shower needs to come after the massage when your greasy as hell and smell like eucalyptus. I know at most of the legit places where they use some sort of oil or cream, when I leave my damn clothes are sticking to me. Do they cover you up on the table like they're afraid that the world will end if ny bare skin sees the light of day. If so, you ain't getting jack as far as extras. On the other hand if they take the towel off when you're face down, then extras are to be had. From my understanding the new place on Lakeshore does that, but no one has benefited from it.
Soft,
You made one of the big mistakes that you can make by using a credit card at an AMP / MP. You should determine what you are going to need to spend, and then take in cash only. There have been many ripoffs by AMP / MP's overcharging like they did you.
I'm not saying all massage parlors do this, but you don't need the aggrivation of finding extra charges on your card (and leaving a paper trail) , and then having to get the extra charges refunded.
I'm happy that you got your money back, and that all is well. You just learned a good lesson about what to watch for in our "hobby".
Just for general information, I'll give you some other hints that might help you, and some of you other guys, with our favorite pasttime.
Dirty.
1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need cash. DO NOT pay with a credit card. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.
2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.
3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, ' have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.
3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.
3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!
3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.
3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, rubbing her leg or ass, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.
4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.
5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.
Generally you will find that Asian massage parlors are very honest, and you don't have to be as careful with your possessions as with 'other' massage parlor providers. Not trying to be racist here, but my experience (after 25+ years) in this hobby proves that to be true.
6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.
7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.
Revision 1: A mamasan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.
8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.
9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.
10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.
11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.
12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.
13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.
14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.
15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.
16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.
17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.
18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.
This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 30+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from other hobby mongers. If you have some additional helpful hints, please add them to the list. It will help all of us who are in the 'hobby'.
[QUOTE=SoftBald; 1536017]Hey guys.
Visited VIP on Friday. Saw an older 35-45 years Asian with pig tails. Nice tits but she said they were implants. Slim slim slim. Gave me a great bath paying special attention to my anus. Went back into the room. She immediately said ". We do it all here baby.". Gave her 60 when I entered. Gave her $40 and said I only wanted a hand job. She said "no". You can do that yourself. I give you more. Give me the credit card. I loved her enthusiasm so I provided the credit card. She left for about 15 minutes. (got nervous) She came back and said the charge machine was broken. Give her the 40 bucks again. She gave a great HJ.
Low and behold Sunday morning a charge of $110 twice was charged to my credit card. ($320h) for a hand job. I don't think so! I went back today. Provided a copy of my statement. Three ladies including "momma" apologized. Provided me with 220 cash and asked if I wanted service today. Needless to say I declined.
I had a wonderful time, but the extra charges on my account pissed me off. They made it right so I will not complain too much. I will visit again but will take $$ cash next time. Also, looking at the other reports I think I will try Bali as well.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys. I decided to try my luck and went out to the new place across from Lowe's this afternoon. I received the same service as reported here by others, straight massage without any chance of extras.
The towel did come off early in the session and there was a point where she straddled the back of my head (new one for me) to reach my lower back and ass. I tried some light touching / groping of her legs when she was pressed against me, but she immediately put my hands down on the table. She did massage my glutes, but no touching of the junk occurred. I was clearly aroused and let her know how much I appreciated it when she came close to the sensitive areas, but no luck. At the end I offered her a healthy tip for HE but she refused.
I thought the cloth curtain instead of a door was kind of weird. Anyone could just barge in on you and you can hear everyone else in the place. Also, the girl was not that attractive, plain looking and petite with about A cups. I guess the massage itself was OK, but don't think I will return.
[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1541306]Soft,
Just for general information, I'll give you some other hints that might help you, and some of you other guys, with our favorite pasttime.[/QUOTE]Great post Dirty.
The only thing I can think to add is. You know why you're there, they know why you're there. Relax and go with it, smile, and let them know you are glad to be there and glad to see them.
In addition to the Mamasan and the girl that takes care of you, some places will have a Kitchen Mom and other girls. Sometimes on your way out they will stick their head out to get a look at you. When they do that I will usually pause and ask them "how are you" or tell them "hi" and wave at them. If it's somewhere I've been several times before I'll give them a hug and tell them it's good to see them.
[QUOTE=Bhm Guy; 1541311]Hey guys. I decided to try my luck and went out to the new place across from Lowe's this afternoon. I received the same service as reported here by others, straight massage without any chance of extras.
The towel did come off early in the session and there was a point where she straddled the back of my head (new one for me) to reach my lower back and ass. I tried some light touching / groping of her legs when she was pressed against me, but she immediately put my hands down on the table. She did massage my glutes, but no touching of the junk occurred. I was clearly aroused and let her know how much I appreciated it when she came close to the sensitive areas, but no luck. At the end I offered her a healthy tip for HE but she refused.
I thought the cloth curtain instead of a door was kind of weird. Anyone could just barge in on you and you can hear everyone else in the place. Also, the girl was not that attractive, plain looking and petite with about A cups. I guess the massage itself was OK, but don't think I will return.[/QUOTE]I have been three times, butt ass naked with junk hard as a rock and no towel. She knows me on a first name basis. Nothing. LOL, they put a sign on the wall asking to please tip. Massage is decent. She definitely works the butt cheeks really well, but there is no extras to be had. Only a glass of water in a plastic cup with a "dank uuu" after she has finished.
Just saying.
[QUOTE=Bhm Guy; 1540870]I hate this sort of teasing. Why do they offer a table shower if no extras are on the menu? This is a very bad business practice, like a restaurant letting you smell food but not actually taste it. My experience at Houliang was also that no extras were offered and to be honest I didn't find the girl to be attractive or personable.
One other complaint. They make you wear their swim suit for the bath? Sorry guys, I think everyone on here is probably a great guy to hang out with, but I don't want to sit my junk in the same suit that a bunch of why'all have been in too.[/QUOTE]I'm with Bhm Guy on this one. I ain't lettin my sack rub you guys old pubes
I found myself in B'ham yesterday and had to give Dianna a try at the Bali. I had read reports on her from a few weeks back and wanted to compare her to my report on Jessie. Dianna is dead on to the other guys description, very hot well toned body, not a loose inch on her. Her message was not quite as good as jessis but it was good. She was a bit more mechanical than jessia. Jessia was more of a GFE than Dianna. Don't get me wrong, Dianna was "off the hook" just like the other guy reported, I just felt that Jessis was a little more "off the hook"
I would say a guy could not go wrong with either one. I had a really nice experience with Dianna but I'll ask for Jessie next time,
[QUOTE=Mr Pokerear; 1542699]I have been three times, butt ass naked with junk hard as a rock and no towel. She knows me on a first name basis. Nothing. LOL, they put a sign on the wall asking to please tip. Massage is decent. She definitely works the butt cheeks really well, but there is no extras to be had. Only a glass of water in a plastic cup with a "dank uuu" after she has finished.
Just saying.[/QUOTE]I have been to this place numerous times in hopes becoming a regular would elevate my status but so far no dice. Great massages.
I did remove my towel the other day and the lady didn't seem to mind. When I made the motion she said oh no boss is here.
This was in the middle of the day so maybe legit. She never put the towel back over me but never touched me either.
No doubt the curtains is a deterrent and makes me uneasy. Pretty sure you can see through them if the light is right.
Their Craigslist posts seem suggestive with how the girls are dressed but like Nichole in Gadsden just a tease.
[QUOTE=Mr Pokerear; 1542699]I have been three times, butt ass naked with junk hard as a rock and no towel. She knows me on a first name basis. Nothing. LOL, they put a sign on the wall asking to please tip. Massage is decent. She definitely works the butt cheeks really well, but there is no extras to be had. Only a glass of water in a plastic cup with a "dank uuu" after she has finished.
Just saying.[/QUOTE]I have been there numerous times in hopes that being a regular would elevate my status. So far it's been a waste albeit with good massages.
The Craigslist ads seem suggestive but the curtains counter that as you can see through them when the light is right.
Tried removing the towel couple weeks ago. The lady didn't mind nor try to cover me up but made some excuse the manager was there.
That could have been the case as it was in the middle of the day.
The part where they rub against and straddle you still baffles me. This type of teasing will just frustrate clients ultimately costing them business.
If you're going to be above board then be that but don't live in between.
Decided to give this place a try today on my lunch break. Everything in my experience was nearly identical to the others that have described it here. The straddling on the table, the use of the towel (backside covered for the first 20 minutes or so, then uncovered) , curtains instead of doors, everything was as described here.
If I hadn't read this thread beforehand, I'd have been about 75% certain this place was going to offer a happy ending. The teasing, tickling, and arousing was definitely on purpose, and I don't understand why they do this. (If the place had doors instead of curtains, and I hadn't read this thread, I would have been 100% convinced a HE was, er, coming.)
I've been to Houliang, many many times. I've been to see Nicole in Gadsden a few times. Back in the day, I used to see Felicia at Healing Touch / Muscular Therapy (any old-timers remember her) who was the queen of teasing. But she did it for cash. If you offered her the right tip, you could get something.
Nicole in Gadsden uses suggestive, misleading ads to bring more business. Houliang, despite being an Asian parlor, never did too much teasing or hinting.
This place, on the other hand, does everything possible to get a "rise" out of customers, then doesn't finish the deal. I'm baffled by this. What's their strategy? Build loyal customers, eventually get some doors on the rooms, and then start offering extras? Stay legit for 6 or 12 months so they don't get on the radar of the Homewood PD? I can't figure it out.
Like Nicole, and like Oriental Healing Massage (also in Homewood) , I'll give this place 2-3 more times. It seems like it has potential, but the reports here from the rest of y'all tell me otherwise.
I learned today that the 90-minute massage includes chest / abs / fronts of legs, while the 60-minute does not. So if you want a flip, go 90.
For me today, the first 20 minutes or so were dry massage, towel still on my ass, lots of pushing and stretching. Then, the towel slid down to the backs of my knees, and eventually off altogether. The therapist oiled her hands and straddled me in a variety of combinations. Hands very close to the cock and balls on inner thighs, but no actual touching. Amazing glute massage, the most attention I've ever had paid to my glutes in a massage. I liked that very much.
Still, I had a raging hard on at the end of the 60 minutes, and when she asked if I wanted to extend to 90, I agreed. Curious to see what would happen. She took the money to the mamasan and came back. I stayed facedown for a few more minutes. She did this very interesting leg stretches, pulling each of my legs in turn to the side and setting each one in her lap. Her hands then roamed all over my glutes and inner thighs, and there were a couple of brushes, very feather light, against my balls.
She put my legs back and then did a few minutes of very light touches up both my thighs, across the bottom of my ass, swiping quickly over my "taint." Again, if one didn't know better, this would all seem like the buildup to a happy ending.
She put the towel back over my ass and had me flip. She then did a few minutes of scalp and neck massage, not really my favorite. After that, she massaged my chest and abs, pushing the edge of the towel well south of my navel, against the head of my cock. Again, teasing touches.
She then moved to my legs. Straddling each thigh in turn, she folded the towel over so it was only covering my cock, and again did some very arousing thigh and groin massages. Again, some barest brushes against my balls. I was hard as could be, of course.
Then, she covered me back up all the way and *pressed* firmly (!) against my groin, on each side of my cock. I'm wondering if she was trying to get me to come without actually touching my dick. A few strokes under the towel of the fronts of my thighs, too. I suspect that if I'd reached under and taken myself in hand, she wouldn't have stopped me. I wonder if she'd have left the room, or continued massaging my thighs? Not as good as a true HE, of course.
Anyway, I'd been a little leery of the curtain setup, of course. But after she left, I didn't give a f*k about the curtain, and I took matters into my own hands.
Gave her a nice tip, got the little cup of water and the "dank you," and I was out of there.
Really, really, really not sure what to think of this place. Confounding.
Can't believe you guys tolerate fraudent services. If you get a chance, come to Huntsville and try the Royal Spa (In phone book). Great Table Shower and you can be assured of HE or more. Classical asian massage parlor! LG.
[QUOTE=Hobby Eric; 1568861]Decided to give this place a try today on my lunch break. Everything in my experience was nearly identical to the others that have described it here. The straddling on the table, the use of the towel (backside covered for the first 20 minutes or so, then uncovered) , curtains instead of doors, everything was as described here.
If I hadn't read this thread beforehand, I'd have been about 75% certain this place was going to offer a happy ending. The teasing, tickling, and arousing was definitely on purpose, and I don't understand why they do this. (If the place had doors instead of curtains, and I hadn't read this thread, I would have been 100% convinced a HE was, er, coming.)
I've been to Houliang, many many times. I've been to see Nicole in Gadsden a few times. Back in the day, I used to see Felicia at Healing Touch / Muscular Therapy (any old-timers remember her) who was the queen of teasing. But she did it for cash. If you offered her the right tip, you could get something.
Nicole in Gadsden uses suggestive, misleading ads to bring more business. Houliang, despite being an Asian parlor, never did too much teasing or hinting.
This place, on the other hand, does everything possible to get a "rise" out of customers, then doesn't finish the deal. I'm baffled by this. What's their strategy? Build loyal customers, eventually get some doors on the rooms, and then start offering extras? Stay legit for 6 or 12 months so they don't get on the radar of the Homewood PD? I can't figure it out.
Like Nicole, and like Oriental Healing Massage (also in Homewood) , I'll give this place 2-3 more times. It seems like it has potential, but the reports here from the rest of why'all tell me otherwise.
I learned today that the 90-minute massage includes chest / abs / fronts of legs, while the 60-minute does not. So if you want a flip, go 90.
For me today, the first 20 minutes or so were dry massage, towel still on my ass, lots of pushing and stretching. Then, the towel slid down to the backs of my knees, and eventually off altogether. The therapist oiled her hands and straddled me in a variety of combinations. Hands very close to the cock and balls on inner thighs, but no actual touching. Amazing glute massage, the most attention I've ever had paid to my glutes in a massage. I liked that very much.
Still, I had a raging hard on at the end of the 60 minutes, and when she asked if I wanted to extend to 90, I agreed. Curious to see what would happen. She took the money to the mamasan and came back. I stayed facedown for a few more minutes. She did this very interesting leg stretches, pulling each of my legs in turn to the side and setting each one in her lap. Her hands then roamed all over my glutes and inner thighs, and there were a couple of brushes, very feather light, against my balls.
She put my legs back and then did a few minutes of very light touches up both my thighs, across the bottom of my ass, swiping quickly over my "taint." Again, if one didn't know better, this would all seem like the buildup to a happy ending.
She put the towel back over my ass and had me flip. She then did a few minutes of scalp and neck massage, not really my favorite. After that, she massaged my chest and abs, pushing the edge of the towel well south of my navel, against the head of my cock. Again, teasing touches.
She then moved to my legs. Straddling each thigh in turn, she folded the towel over so it was only covering my cock, and again did some very arousing thigh and groin massages. Again, some barest brushes against my balls. I was hard as could be, of course.
Then, she covered me back up all the way and *pressed* firmly (!) against my groin, on each side of my cock. I'm wondering if she was trying to get me to come without actually touching my dick. A few strokes under the towel of the fronts of my thighs, too. I suspect that if I'd reached under and taken myself in hand, she wouldn't have stopped me. I wonder if she'd have left the room, or continued massaging my thighs? Not as good as a true HE, of course.
Anyway, I'd been a little leery of the curtain setup, of course. But after she left, I didn't give a f*k about the curtain, and I took matters into my own hands.
Gave her a nice tip, got the little cup of water and the "dank you," and I was out of there.
Really, really, really not sure what to think of this place. Confounding.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to continue going back to Panda in hopes of achieving "preferred customer" status. At the very least it's a pretty good massage and fairly cheap. I'm wondering if you go well after dark things change? I can only go during the day.
Unlike Panda I will never go back to Nicole. She is a total tease and the massage really wasn't that great. Had she massaged me naked or at least shown something I could see going back.
[QUOTE=Hobby Eric; 1568861]Decided to give this place a try today on my lunch break. Everything in my experience was nearly identical to the others that have described it here. The straddling on the table, the use of the towel (backside covered for the first 20 minutes or so, then uncovered) , curtains instead of doors, everything was as described here.
If I hadn't read this thread beforehand, I'd have been about 75% certain this place was going to offer a happy ending. The teasing, tickling, and arousing was definitely on purpose, and I don't understand why they do this. (If the place had doors instead of curtains, and I hadn't read this thread, I would have been 100% convinced a HE was, er, coming.)
I've been to Houliang, many many times. I've been to see Nicole in Gadsden a few times. Back in the day, I used to see Felicia at Healing Touch / Muscular Therapy (any old-timers remember her) who was the queen of teasing. But she did it for cash. If you offered her the right tip, you could get something.
Nicole in Gadsden uses suggestive, misleading ads to bring more business. Houliang, despite being an Asian parlor, never did too much teasing or hinting.
This place, on the other hand, does everything possible to get a "rise" out of customers, then doesn't finish the deal. I'm baffled by this. What's their strategy? Build loyal customers, eventually get some doors on the rooms, and then start offering extras? Stay legit for 6 or 12 months so they don't get on the radar of the Homewood PD? I can't figure it out.
Like Nicole, and like Oriental Healing Massage (also in Homewood) , I'll give this place 2-3 more times. It seems like it has potential, but the reports here from the rest of why'all tell me otherwise.
I learned today that the 90-minute massage includes chest / abs / fronts of legs, while the 60-minute does not. So if you want a flip, go 90.
For me today, the first 20 minutes or so were dry massage, towel still on my ass, lots of pushing and stretching. Then, the towel slid down to the backs of my knees, and eventually off altogether. The therapist oiled her hands and straddled me in a variety of combinations. Hands very close to the cock and balls on inner thighs, but no actual touching. Amazing glute massage, the most attention I've ever had paid to my glutes in a massage. I liked that very much.
Still, I had a raging hard on at the end of the 60 minutes, and when she asked if I wanted to extend to 90, I agreed. Curious to see what would happen. She took the money to the mamasan and came back. I stayed facedown for a few more minutes. She did this very interesting leg stretches, pulling each of my legs in turn to the side and setting each one in her lap. Her hands then roamed all over my glutes and inner thighs, and there were a couple of brushes, very feather light, against my balls.
She put my legs back and then did a few minutes of very light touches up both my thighs, across the bottom of my ass, swiping quickly over my "taint." Again, if one didn't know better, this would all seem like the buildup to a happy ending.
She put the towel back over my ass and had me flip. She then did a few minutes of scalp and neck massage, not really my favorite. After that, she massaged my chest and abs, pushing the edge of the towel well south of my navel, against the head of my cock. Again, teasing touches.
She then moved to my legs. Straddling each thigh in turn, she folded the towel over so it was only covering my cock, and again did some very arousing thigh and groin massages. Again, some barest brushes against my balls. I was hard as could be, of course.
Then, she covered me back up all the way and *pressed* firmly (!) against my groin, on each side of my cock. I'm wondering if she was trying to get me to come without actually touching my dick. A few strokes under the towel of the fronts of my thighs, too. I suspect that if I'd reached under and taken myself in hand, she wouldn't have stopped me. I wonder if she'd have left the room, or continued massaging my thighs? Not as good as a true HE, of course.
Anyway, I'd been a little leery of the curtain setup, of course. But after she left, I didn't give a f*k about the curtain, and I took matters into my own hands.
Gave her a nice tip, got the little cup of water and the "dank you," and I was out of there.
Really, really, really not sure what to think of this place. Confounding.[/QUOTE]
I had a dream that HT Pam stepped into Felica's house from the carport, and the first thing she saw (in small laundry room to the left) was a female operating a multiline telephone complete with a headset. Like she was a receptionist there to just take calls. Also in this dream, Janelle figured out what she was being used.
For, and BOOM. One less set of hands at HT.
[QUOTE=Hobby Eric; 1568861]Decided to give this place a try today on my lunch break. Everything in my experience was nearly identical to the others that have described it here. The straddling on the table, the use of the towel (backside covered for the first 20 minutes or so, then uncovered) , curtains instead of doors, everything was as described here.
If I hadn't read this thread beforehand, I'd have been about 75% certain this place was going to offer a happy ending. The teasing, tickling, and arousing was definitely on purpose, and I don't understand why they do this. (If the place had doors instead of curtains, and I hadn't read this thread, I would have been 100% convinced a HE was, er, coming.)
I've been to Houliang, many many times. I've been to see Nicole in Gadsden a few times. Back in the day, I used to see Felicia at Healing Touch / Muscular Therapy (any old-timers remember her) who was the queen of teasing. But she did it for cash. If you offered her the right tip, you could get something.
Nicole in Gadsden uses suggestive, misleading ads to bring more business. Houliang, despite being an Asian parlor, never did too much teasing or hinting.
This place, on the other hand, does everything possible to get a "rise" out of customers, then doesn't finish the deal. I'm baffled by this. What's their strategy? Build loyal customers, eventually get some doors on the rooms, and then start offering extras? Stay legit for 6 or 12 months so they don't get on the radar of the Homewood PD? I can't figure it out.
Like Nicole, and like Oriental Healing Massage (also in Homewood) , I'll give this place 2-3 more times. It seems like it has potential, but the reports here from the rest of why'all tell me otherwise.
I learned today that the 90-minute massage includes chest / abs / fronts of legs, while the 60-minute does not. So if you want a flip, go 90.
For me today, the first 20 minutes or so were dry massage, towel still on my ass, lots of pushing and stretching. Then, the towel slid down to the backs of my knees, and eventually off altogether. The therapist oiled her hands and straddled me in a variety of combinations. Hands very close to the cock and balls on inner thighs, but no actual touching. Amazing glute massage, the most attention I've ever had paid to my glutes in a massage. I liked that very much.
Still, I had a raging hard on at the end of the 60 minutes, and when she asked if I wanted to extend to 90, I agreed. Curious to see what would happen. She took the money to the mamasan and came back. I stayed facedown for a few more minutes. She did this very interesting leg stretches, pulling each of my legs in turn to the side and setting each one in her lap. Her hands then roamed all over my glutes and inner thighs, and there were a couple of brushes, very feather light, against my balls.
She put my legs back and then did a few minutes of very light touches up both my thighs, across the bottom of my ass, swiping quickly over my "taint." Again, if one didn't know better, this would all seem like the buildup to a happy ending.
She put the towel back over my ass and had me flip. She then did a few minutes of scalp and neck massage, not really my favorite. After that, she massaged my chest and abs, pushing the edge of the towel well south of my navel, against the head of my cock. Again, teasing touches.
She then moved to my legs. Straddling each thigh in turn, she folded the towel over so it was only covering my cock, and again did some very arousing thigh and groin massages. Again, some barest brushes against my balls. I was hard as could be, of course.
Then, she covered me back up all the way and *pressed* firmly (!) against my groin, on each side of my cock. I'm wondering if she was trying to get me to come without actually touching my dick. A few strokes under the towel of the fronts of my thighs, too. I suspect that if I'd reached under and taken myself in hand, she wouldn't have stopped me. I wonder if she'd have left the room, or continued massaging my thighs? Not as good as a true HE, of course.
Anyway, I'd been a little leery of the curtain setup, of course. But after she left, I didn't give a f*k about the curtain, and I took matters into my own hands.
Gave her a nice tip, got the little cup of water and the "dank you," and I was out of there.
Really, really, really not sure what to think of this place. Confounding.[/QUOTE]
What the hell are you talking about?
On to something else. I've been reading the posts about Panda and the one thing that I haven't really seen is a description of the ladies that work there and what they are wearing during the massage. I'm sure they look nothing like the pics they post.
[QUOTE=AngryNipples; 1569043]I had a dream that HT Pam stepped into Felica's house from the carport, and the first thing she saw (in small laundry room to the left) was a female operating a multiline telephone complete with a headset. Like she was a receptionist there to just take calls. Also in this dream, Janelle figured out what she was being used.
For, and BOOM. One less set of hands at HT.[/QUOTE]
Spider. I actually got more and better service with Nicole the first time I visited her. And. Worth going back. I'm reluctant to share those type of trade secrets, But I'll say this. It has to do with knuckle-dragging, respect and the stereotypical "little head" slinging through someone's front door. Sounds to me like the Panda is working you guys like a violin. As fas as what the hell I'm talking about doesn't concern you. So just live with it champ.
[QUOTE=Spider Man; 1569387]What the hell are you talking about?
On to something else. I've been reading the posts about Panda and the one thing that I haven't really seen is a description of the ladies that work there and what they are wearing during the massage. I'm sure they look nothing like the pics they post.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spider Man; 1569387]What the hell are you talking about?
On to something else. I've been reading the posts about Panda and the one thing that I haven't really seen is a description of the ladies that work there and what they are wearing during the massage. I'm sure they look nothing like the pics they post.[/QUOTE]Nothing at all. Jeans and a pullover polo sort of shirt. Been there twice, and plenty of getting close, but no cigar. Avoid.
[QUOTE=AngryNipples; 1569043]I had a dream that HT Pam stepped into Felica's house from the carport, and the first thing she saw (in small laundry room to the left) was a female operating a multiline telephone complete with a headset. Like she was a receptionist there to just take calls. Also in this dream, Janelle figured out what she was being used.
For, and BOOM. One less set of hands at HT.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why someone bothers to post something that is so cryptic that even people who know the principles can't follow it?
Here's a tip for you champ. If you're going to post things, number one they need to make some sort of sense, and not just to you. We shouldn't need a decoder to figure out what the hell you're talking about. The few posts you have make zero sense. I mean you obviously must have been a stellar English student by the way you construct your sentences. And secondly numb nuts, people post here to share information. If you're going to be in the habit of posting unreadable "insider" posts, and not be willing to explain yourself, you're going to be wasting your time and ours. It sounds like you're just the mac daddy of all this. So, we'll all be awaiting your post of how you conquered the Panda, but I'm pretty sure it would make zero sense, be extremely vague, and be total bullshit.
[QUOTE=AngryNipples;1569419]Spider. I actually got more and better service with Nicole the first time I visited her. And. Worth going back. I'm reluctant to share those type of trade secrets, But I'll say this. It has to do with knuckle-dragging, respect and the stereotypical "little head" slinging through someone's front door. Sounds to me like the Panda is working you guys like a violin. As fas as what the hell I'm talking about doesn't concern you. So just live with it champ.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AngryNipples;1569419]Spider. I actually got more and better service with Nicole the first time I visited her. And. Worth going back. I'm reluctant to share those type of trade secrets, But I'll say this. It has to do with knuckle-dragging, respect and the stereotypical "little head" slinging through someone's front door. Sounds to me like the Panda is working you guys like a violin. As fas as what the hell I'm talking about doesn't concern you. So just live with it champ.[/QUOTE]I don't think Panda is working anyone since you actually get a decent massage for $50. 00.
Where you going to get a good massage and HE for fifty? If you know of such a place let me know.
Their advertisements are deceptive but they do not dress provocatively in my opinion.
My guess is this will eventually catch up with them and they'll either fold are start adding options.
[QUOTE=Spider Man;1569387]On to something else. I've been reading the posts about Panda and the one thing that I haven't really seen is a description of the ladies that work there and what they are wearing during the massage. I'm sure they look nothing like the pics they post.[/QUOTE]You are correct. Jeans, sneakers, short sleeve shirts. Decent shape, but not particularly attractive. The clothing in reality is nothing like the pics in their ads.
Again, not sure what their game is. They might get me as a customer 2 or 3 times, but that'll be the end of the line for me, and sounds like for most of you as well.
IMHO, there could be a market for a massage establishment ok with undraped massage, that doesn't require an appointment, that unashamedly massages the glutes, etc. There isn't anywhere else like that in town. But the teasing, without finishing the deal, is unnecessary and frustrating.
[QUOTE=LustyGuy;1568870]Can't believe you guys tolerate fraudent services. If you get a chance, come to Huntsville and try the Royal Spa (In phone book). Great Table Shower and you can be assured of HE or more. Classical asian massage parlor! LG.[/QUOTE]We have true FS AMPs here in Birmingham too, of course. Quality and LE attention varies, but we have them.
Some of us, however, prefer a massage and happy ending only; and want a quality massage as well as an appropriately priced session. Panda seemed like it might provide this, but now doesn't seem promising.
I too have been to the Panda with the same results as others posting here. It was during the lunch hour, girl dressed in jeans and T shirt. Could not speak any English really. But I heard another customer come in after me and the other lady was speaking fluent English. I wonder if going later at night would bring better results?
[QUOTE=PitbullMuscle;1569710]I too have been to the Panda with the same results as others posting here. It was during the lunch hour, girl dressed in jeans and T shirt. Could not speak any English really. But I heard another customer come in after me and the other lady was speaking fluent English. I wonder if going later at night would bring better results?[/QUOTE]No, it wouldn't. I've been midday, evening and late at night. Nothing to see here. Move along.
I too have been met with the same frustrations in homewood, and as with other reports, one would at least expect HE. I recently went to the new place in hoover on hwy 31. The shower was great, but the paper shorts were horrible. LOL Once in the room my therapist,"mickey"gave one hell of a massage, eventually fully removing the towel. Prior to the flip, things were going great, soft touch, all the usual teases. Upon the flip, she knew that I was aroused. She covered only my joint with the towel, tucking the rest under my thighs leaving all but my dick exposed. The inner thigh massage was driving me nuts! Soft "accidental" touches of the jewels, but no hands on. After a short time, she gently took my hand, placed it under the cover, and without actually saying anything, gave me permission to take care of business myself. This wasnt what I had hoped for, but better than nothing. There I was stroking away, and she just kept massaging. Hopefully these places will get things figured out, I would be perfectly willing to go back to the wallet for a HE, by no means am I expecting it for free, but DAMN!
Another Panda try. Would have tried the Hoover place but the paper shorts are just weird. The Panda was an OK to good massage. 60 minutes was back only. The girl was tall, spoke OK english and very plain. She was very nice and asked me about what people do in the area and we talked about where she was from and stuff. No towel but no hint of anything extra. She just seemed to be very straight. I could hear the other massage girl laughing with her client and cutting up a good bit but nothing that sounded like a HE for anyone. I asked and there was no TS at the Panda. I think she said there was a shower that could be used to rinse off but not for them to soap me up. LOL.
I think they are trying to bring in all of the hotel business around them with their ads just to generate business that won't be back anyways. Any locals they can get for regular massage will just be a bonus.
The Hoover place and those shorts are still weird. I would have had to just hit the road on that one.
I was under the impression that the other MP on 31 was affiliated with Houliang. If that's the case the where did the "masterbation assistance" come from. That seems kind of out of character for a legit MP affiliation. And what's up with the paper shorts? Do you have those on during the massage? I need more info on that.
[QUOTE=Cigar Smoke;1570356]I too have been met with the same frustrations in homewood, and as with other reports, one would at least expect HE. I recently went to the new place in hoover on hwy 31. The shower was great, but the paper shorts were horrible. LOL Once in the room my therapist,"mickey"gave one hell of a massage, eventually fully removing the towel. Prior to the flip, things were going great, soft touch, all the usual teases. Upon the flip, she knew that I was aroused. She covered only my joint with the towel, tucking the rest under my thighs leaving all but my dick exposed. The inner thigh massage was driving me nuts! Soft "accidental" touches of the jewels, but no hands on. After a short time, she gently took my hand, placed it under the cover, and without actually saying anything, gave me permission to take care of business myself. This wasnt what I had hoped for, but better than nothing. There I was stroking away, and she just kept massaging. Hopefully these places will get things figured out, I would be perfectly willing to go back to the wallet for a HE, by no means am I expecting it for free, but DAMN![/QUOTE]The "self-assist" happy ending isn't great, but better than nothing. I very nearly tried that at Panda last week, just to see what she'd do if I put my own hand under the towel.
Chinese (for the most part) staffed massage parlors are cropping up in malls and upscale studios all over the country giving places like Massage Envy a run for their money. Literally. I know because I have been a regular customer up here in Hsv at the PPM since they came into town a couple years back. Yes, the Chinese are Asian, their workers are well trained, and they know exactly where the line is separating legitimate and trouble. And they walk it with great skill and precision. This is almost a franchise and the stakes (not to mention the revenues generated) are high. The PPM place in Hsv is constantly packed and waiting in line for services (especially on weekends) is not too uncommon. Today I visited the PPM parlor where I waited 30 minutes for my favorite girl to be free whereupon I spent the next 90 minutes getting a really great massage by a really cute girl who teased the living daylights out of me. Damn, I swear LEO could have had separate video feeds into the room and never caught an intentional body contact (other than her hands all over my gluts). Yes, it's a tease. But there are plenty of old farts out there like me who are tired of the mechanical / upscale / boring massages trending the old AMPs. Today I had fun and benefited from skillful hands that scraped, swatted, and lightly brushed across the surfaces of my entire body. Agreed, no HE and no intention grabbing on my part and we stayed within the parameters of the rules of the game. Now I know that isn't for everybody and lately the parlor has required underwear to remain on because too many idiots think that a massage parlor in the middle of a freakin' mall, with curtains as doors where whispers can easily be heard across the hall is equivalent to your standard AMP where the menu is al a carte. Come on guys lets rationale with the 'thinking' head! I know the PPM manager and there is no doubt in my mind that the first working girl (or guy) to cross the line with a customer will be shipped back on a slow boat to Shanghi. She is making money hand over fist and without the extras the standard AMP offer. This is a legitimate business and I'm not so naive to know that some hanky-panky may be going on under extreme clandestine conditions (hell I'd love a piece of that) , but the few benefit I do enjoy were cultivated over time and $. Bottom line, if you want a decent massage with light touching / tease in a safe environment then the mall massage parlors are the answer, if HE and FS menus are your game, you'll have to stick to the standard AMP because I don't believe it'll be tolerated at the mall. Anyway thanks for the tip on Panda sounds like a place I might actually enjoy. LD.
[QUOTE=Cigar Smoke;1570356]I too have been met with the same frustrations in homewood, and as with other reports, one would at least expect HE. I recently went to the new place in hoover on hwy 31. The shower was great, but the paper shorts were horrible. LOL Once in the room my therapist,"mickey"gave one hell of a massage, eventually fully removing the towel. Prior to the flip, things were going great, soft touch, all the usual teases. Upon the flip, she knew that I was aroused. She covered only my joint with the towel, tucking the rest under my thighs leaving all but my dick exposed. The inner thigh massage was driving me nuts! Soft "accidental" touches of the jewels, but no hands on. After a short time, she gently took my hand, placed it under the cover, and without actually saying anything, gave me permission to take care of business myself. This wasnt what I had hoped for, but better than nothing. There I was stroking away, and she just kept massaging. Hopefully these places will get things figured out, I would be perfectly willing to go back to the wallet for a HE, by no means am I expecting it for free, but DAMN![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hobby Eric;1571115]The "self-assist" happy ending isn't great, but better than nothing. I very nearly tried that at Panda last week, just to see what she'd do if I put my own hand under the towel.[/QUOTE]Eric,
If you do try that at Panda let us know how it goes. I'd be curious if that didn't "unlock" your status so they know you're not Leo.
Maybe next time they do it for you.
Hey guys,
First off I'm not new to this community. I'm here reading you guys all the time. However this is my first time posting here. Also thanks for all the helpful posts, they are really beneficial.
I'm no newbie to the AMP business. So I went in to this message palor about 3 weeks ago hoping that I could get a HE in spite of what I had heard about them—that nothing is going on besides a legit massage and paper short showers. LOL. However, let me say that first off I called because I didn't know how to get there. And to my surprise a male answered the phone. I'm like WTF. This place must really be legit. I'm not used to seeing male employees in these places. So anyways. He goes we busy. Can you come in 30 mins. I tell him ill just come another day. He gets all persuasive on the phone and is like we have pretty asian girl in."Young California girl" he says. In my mind I'm like are you serious. Nobody sells their my massage palor by young pretty girl from California if they are legit. So I decided to go in. And let me say that the building is deceptively large and clean. Very upscale feel. And the area for the massage is hidden in the exit of the building, so you get the impression upon walking in that its just too private to not be offering more. So I get to my room and the asian man walks in. I'm like dude WTF. He goes "my friend I have pretty girl for you today. Can you wait no longer then 10 mins for her." Finally she walks in in sweat pants and a t shirt, but is very young and pretty indeed. By this time I was already changed into the rob that they supply. No paper shorts were to be found. She completely bathed me uncovered front and back, though never touching the junk. She gave an exception shower, and even washed my hair and face. So we get back to the room, and here comes the disappointment as far as the HE goes, though I did get an exceptional massage and left feeling refreshed. She did the normal teasing and grazing of the balls with the inner thigh massage though keeping my junk under the sheet at all times. So I left a little disappointed, but in my mind I felt like the asian man was just too anxious about his" young asian girl". So I came back for a second try at scoring and nothing. Same thing. And yes the shower was still uncovered, no paper shorts to be found. So I finally told myself, I can only be teased one more time, so about a week and a half ago I went back. Same asian guy."my friend, I have new girl for you" he says. Also I must Say that you have no worries while in this place. It is very relaxing. So this time I'm getting my shower, but my masseuse is older maybe 55 and not the best looking which I didn't mind, for I just wanted to see could I score. Again guys, another uncovered no shirts shower. But this time when getting hard as a rock, she gave it attention. She bathed my cock with a towel and not bare hand. So during the stand where she dried me off, she bent down face level with my cock and grabed it with the towel and said "wow he's happy today". At this point I knew I was on. I wanted to make her feel like what she was doing was okay, so I actully bounced up and down a little to make my cock jump in her face and she laughed. So now back in the room, the massage is standardly good there on the back side. She asked me to turn over and she does a excellent leg massage, and the closer she gets to my area, the harder I was getting. I mean literally poking through the sheet. Finally, with out my asking she puts a little grease in her hand and then she removes the sheet and goes to town. An amazing handjob, but I was taking a long time to cum, and she never rushed me but started playing with my ass, while letting me go under her shirt and bra to play with her tits, which were average. But again that's besides the point. I scored, but even more surprising to me is after I came literally everywhere she asked me "you feeling better?" I replied "much better." Then she grabbed the sheet while laughing and cleaned up all of my man gravy. But shockingly she goes back and finishes the massage to my chest and neck. I have never been treated better at a place like this, not even at the known and easy AMPs. Then she never expects a tip, like she really never says anything about it. But don't worry I payed good, well over the standard HE tip trying to assure that I can get this service when I return.
Bad news report, since the day I seen the older lady who gave me the wonderful HE, I haven't seen her their since. I've been three more times since my HE and now when I go in I get paper shorts shower and come no where near closed to a HE. I must say that they do give Consistly good massages though.
I hope that helps guys!
Fantastic report, JodaMan. BRAVO! I was hanging on every word. I mean it. It was like "review porn". Velly interesting and informative. I wonder what happened to mamasan?
Agreed, great first post. I've read a lot of good info off here too, it's a great to get some insight and reward the places that cater to what each of us prefers.
On the AMP topic, I have yet to visit one, but constantly find myself in that area of town literally dirty from manhandling equipment or just a bit funky from being in a truck some days doing bids.
Do any of these places have a standard shower to rinse off? I'd really hate to subject any lady to a working mans sweat. I know the table shower gets the goods clean, but I hardly think it would be a replacement for a proper shower. I'm not talking about oil and grime, but a 190# guys normal wear and tear.
I'm considerate and a gentleman, and inquiring for the best interests of all. I assume I would have a much better massage should I arrive clean already, but curious if its commonplace as I hear truckers talk about making stops on their way through.
Appreciate all the commentary on here.
C
[QUOTE=Spider Man;1571055]I was under the impression that the other MP on 31 was affiliated with Houliang. If that's the case the where did the "masterbation assistance" come from. That seems kind of out of character for a legit MP affiliation. And what's up with the paper shorts? Do you have those on during the massage? I need more info on that.[/QUOTE]Spider Man, no shorts during the massage, only during the shower. As far as the self service, she provided no assistance, just permission. My tool was never actually exposed, but it was obvious that it was going nowhere, so I guess she decided to let me handle it.
Smoke
Jokes, a good table shower, or should I say, a good attendant will scrub you from stem to stern. However, I wouldn't go too funky. Hell, I've taken in a full change of clothes so that I didn't have to drive all the way home after work.
Well I broke down and visited the place on 31 last night. I was debating on it or Panda until I read Joda's poat and decided to go that route. All I can say is that I was thoroughly disappointed. The girl was somewhat cute. Had a nice body, decent tits, but would be considered a "butterface" in any fashion. The business itself is very classy as far as MP 's go. She took me to the room, gave me instructions and the bag with paper shorts. Went to get the TS and after laying facedown for about 5 minutes I was then laying facedown in a pillow full of water. She was scrubbing and then would lift the paper shorts and scrub the backside kinda half ass. On the flip the same thing, except she got about waistband low downstairs. I went in expecting the $59 dollar price included the TS. But at the end I was told it was $79. I was under the impression that they had some sort of water massage they did. Anyway after trying to explain my thoughts, I just gave up. It felt like I was trying to eplain to someone in Singapore who Dale Earnhardt was. To make a long story short, unless you absolutely have to have one, I would pass on the TS. Anyway I get led back to the room and told take off evrything and get under the sheet. She comes in, turns the lights down as low as you can get and starts the massage with my back and glutes. Nothing to get worked up about. She moved to the lower body and about the same ampount of attention. On the flip she does both legs and comes nowhere near my balls. The whole experience to this point was nothing to write home about. I was figuring if there was no HJ on the table, at least I would get a great massage. That didn't happen. The massage was one step above a light rubdown. So, when she started with the other leg, I started in my "leg." The room was almost dark and I was trying to work up some wood so when she started on my upper body and stomach, I would give her a subtle hint. But after she finished with the legs, she says "dank eww" and that was it.
My computer fucked out on me mid post, so let me get back to it. So anyway I'm laying there in almost darkness with a half chub and she's done. No upper body, no stomach, nothing. As she's gathering up her lotions and things, I'm pounding my belly with my unit to get her attention, or just to get some sort of reaction. But nothing. So being me, when she left I just grabbed a little of her massage lotion and went to town and utilized a few of there Kleenaxes. All in all the whole thing sucked. The worst part was leaving there all greased from that shit she massaged me with. That shit wouldn't come off. All that she left me with was that robe and it didn't do anything. It felt like someone armor all'd me. Maybe it's one of those places where the more you go, the comfortable they get. For all she knows I could have been LE. I was more disappointed in the massage than anything. I needed a good massage and that came nowhere close. It was like a massage from Pam from Healing Touch. I wished I remembered her name, but you could only make out about 1 out of 10 words.