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Hey all
I was wondering if enough time has passed since alpha closed that we can now safely assume that it will never reopen?
If that is the case, I would like to ask if anyone can reveal the true reason why it shutdown. Some here have hinted in earlier posts that they knew the whole story but were hesitant to give the reasons.
If anyone has any reason to think that there is still hope that the greatest non AMP in the state will someday return, I would love to hear about that as well.
Thanks
Pogo
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did the loop on DP and Park tonight @ 7pm. nothing, nada...park st seems to have too much traffics going on. where did you guys find action on park? specifics would be great. pm me if you like
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On way home Sat nite and decided to check out DP and Wethersfield Ave around 3am. Stopped for a WSW on Wethersfield Ave and she got in the car. Chunky and not my type so told her I thought she was someone else and she got out. Other than her, area was dead.
BTW, checked out the 3 motels on Rt 5/15 (where Maple Ave turns into 5/15 near the Hooters). Don't remember the names but the one on the same side as Hooters was $40 for two hours. One on the other side of road was $30 and the one behind the red Christmas store was $20. Hope this helps anyone who's looking for a spot to do the deed.
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For all of those who have been asking..Betty...560-9467.
Any of you know who Jenny Jones is? I have a PM from her.
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Sunday night. DP, NB, Farm nothing. Ashley 4 Average SW. I get my messages at 1130pm as I was about to give up an yo one of my all time top 10 Sw is back in town after 2 years anlooking forme. I drive to where she tells me she is an no one there. In New Britain. Today she calls an says she fell asleep. So ill try again.May have a number to share.
Pissed I drive back to H Town at midnight.Ashley now empty. I spot a short white girl on Walnut. Pull over an in she jumps. Long curly reddish hair. No more than 5 ft tall. cute.A HOME RUN...Gents I have found Christinas replacement. She goes by name of Jessica. Ran ad in Advocate last year under that name. Worked for an escort service also. Been away for a year. 26 YO.
Moving into an apartment in Manchester at end of month near Stop an Shop.Without going into detail all I can say is UNBELIEVABLE performance an attitude. 10 body.
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RE: Alpha
What makes me wonder about the place is this.
The phone is still working. How long has it been?
Almost 6 months?
Who's paying the phone bill?
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I have scored a couple times recently on N.B. ave near the building that used to have Aristocrat's.
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I think that Stoner was in a bad mood when he wrote his post, and that he probably didn't mean to slam Monger22 so hard.
If anything, he's trying to protect Monger22, Pogo and the rest of us by basically saying this - stay away from the entire subject of Alpha, since there's a chance of pending legal action. No need for any of us to get drawn into something that we'd be better off avoiding.
As for me, I am assuming that Alpha is gone for good, and I've moved on mentally. Plenty of other things for me to worry about these days, such as how long it now takes to drive to Waterbury amidst the I-84 construction.
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Hello all,
I took Betty (the one Monger22 has written about) out for a test drive today. Took her to a short stay (are there any other type?) motel on Rt. 5/15 Berlin Tpke.
She definitely likes to talk, the whole ride there and back shes telling me everything about her personal life. Lives with her aunt/uncle on Park Ave, she is 27 yo, thin 98 lb Latina with blond curly hair. She dresses nice comparably to others who work street. Says she used to be fat, got divorced and lost a lot of weight due to it. You can tell, as she does have stretch marks on her belly and her small boobs SAG. Has 3 kids too she says. But she does have a cute face in my humble opinion, and she is an amateur, which I think makes it more enjoyable and more GFE like, especially with the talking! :). She tells me she does not want to do this much longer, she's afraid of LE and crazy guys. She got left at a motel once by a guy smoking crack.
Performance was average. Got FS and BBBJTCIM for $45, actually gave her $5 when i met her to pick her up, she claimed she needed it to give to her guy friend who was following her, she owed him. Well, of course, my instincts told me it was a scam but she left her purse in car and came back 2 mins later and off we went. My thought was, well, if she's going to scam me I'm sure it would be for more than $5 bucks, but still later I found out that guy friend was actually her brother.
Her number is home number, so aunt/uncle may answer. They do know what she does she says but what can they do shes 27 yo. I told her she should get a cell, says she's thinking about getting one when she gets her tax return.
Be safe!
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WITH ALL THE PUSSY WALKING AROUND IN HARTFORD WHY ARE YOU GUYS WORRIED ABOUT WHO PAYS A PHONE BILL????????
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Monger...Yeah, I didn't mean to come down so hard. I've been pent up pretty bad at work. Didn't realize that my post was so heated.
Mighty summed up pretty well my boiled down thoughts.
From one man to another, I'm sorry for snapping at you and I tore down the post.
I did take it personal when really, it wasn't and you are free to think as you wish. Believe me, I am itching to talk about it all, yet, for numerous reasons...I resist.
It may or may not have been stated that the posts here were used. Truth is, they were, including comments from not a few of us frequent posters over the years. I know this from numerous first hand sources now.
Personally, it angers me that they would do this, yet...what can done about it.
Again...please accept my apology, all.
Stoner the Contrite Sinner
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Stoner
I appreciate your apology. It takes a man to step up an do that. From here on I will not mention that place here, I am seeing a girl from there every 10 days or so. I only try an provide an share info on our hobby. Monger 22
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Azz glad you enjoyed Betty, happy to be of service. She is there for all to enjoy. HELP..Does anyone have any info on a poster name of Jenny Jones?
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Hey all,
Long time no type, just figured I'd check in and say hello. Not really much to report here. Called Betty, but she wasn't in. :(
Hopefully I'll have more to share later on. Be safe, the snow's coming tonight.
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Monger22,
When you get that number for Jessica please pass it on. Since I am from NB things are somewhat slow here so I am looking for something new. I had a number for a Lori I hooked up with last December but can not find what I did with it.
Thank You
Jack
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For all you fellas interested in what's going on with the Alpha check out the city of hartford website hartford.gov and link to HPD news. Apparently the owner Gail is facing multiple federal charges pertaining to the operation of the Alpha Club.
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ALPHA NEWS
Just heard a "blurp" for the 11:00 o'clock news on Channel 3
WFSB.
"how a brothel which operated for 25 years was closed down",
close as can remember as I was kind of dozing off while watching
the news.
If that's not Alpha, I don't know what is!
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It was Alpha...
Link: http://www.ctnow.com/news/custom/newsat3/hc-hartford-brothel-0317,1,7932413.story?coll=hc-headlines-newsat3
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Bingo...thats it. Amazing it took this long.
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I never thought I'd see the day (at least hoped not anyway) where I'd be reading about this. What a sad, sad day. I had many, many sessions there over the past 10 years (I'm 32 now). Rebecca, Beth (some of the chicks from years past) will never escape my memory. Even more recently with some Indian-looking chick who's name escapes me, she had 2 kids though, but was young, 26 maybe. With all the real crime going on in this city, and state, and country for that matter, it's such a shame this is what they choose to focus on.
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Can anyone tell me some streets and intersections where I can find a hoe in Hartford?
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Supposed to meet Melissa from New Britain at 9 at her friends apartment in Hartford west end.Auto accident in front of apt had several LE there with lights on so I kept going. Called her friends number but it was busy. Went to Farmington, Ashley, Albany for an hour an saw 0 SW. Went home bummed out. Phone rings at 1145 an its Mellisalooking for some company. Over I go to pick her up. Again she is one of my all time top 10, maybe 5, SW. We have become friends over the years. That sometimes happens but she is still a version of a SW but you wont find her on the street.A body to kill for. Classic Latina. Been away for 2 years.She is looking for an apartment an if any of you guys have one she is willing to trade for rent.
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I want to start off by saying that I have NO inside information on Alpha, all my comments here are from reading the Hartford Courant and then thinking about Alpha while I was shoveling my driveway this morning.
There has got to be more to the Alpha story than what is written in the Courant's "front page, above the fold" article. The amount of money that was supposedly money-laundered in Swiss bank accounts is way too high to have been made totally from the house fee charged at the Alpha.
Do the math: an average 30 paying customers per day @ an average $50 house fee per customer x 300 days open = $450,000 gross revenue per year. Subtract the unavoidable costs of operation - rent, telephone, credit card account processing expenses, heat, electricity, water, laundry expenses, other cleaning expenses, some salary for the non-escort employees, some routine maintenance, plus pay-offs to the cops, even the cost of the free soda in small paper cups that the customers always received, and you end up with a healthy profit for the owner Gail, but nowhere near enough to have several million dollars in a Swiss bank account.
Now, I have no inside info as to pay-offs to the cops, but something like that had to be going on, since Alpha stayed open long after all of the other MPs in Hartford closed years ago.
I chuckled at the some of the comments about residents complaining about Alpha spoiling the neighborhood. Huh? That neighborhood is not exactly the neighborhood where the Governor's mansion is - a biker bar across the street, something clearly suspicious in the house next door to the Alpha building, lots of drug dealers and other scuzzballs in the area. Alpha's been closed for over three months but the neighborhood doesn't look any better now than it did last year!
And Alpha didn't generate that much traffic, no more than any other business that could have been there. In fact, if it had been a regular health club, there would have been lots more traffic into the late hours - just drive by the Bally's club on New Britain Avenue in West Hartford at 10:30 p.m. any evening and the parking lot will be more than half-filled.
Prediction - this isn't the last article that we'll be reading about Alpha in the Courant.
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I picked up Betty 2 weeks ago and she gave a good performance.I called her on the phone and set up a time to meet and she was there when I got into town. She is a young hsw and likes to f---. she has very little tit but makes up for it in the ass dept. I would rate her a 6-7-7 and a good find for what I have seen in the area lately.
play safe
BB.
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Gentlemen,
Newbie here. How can I get some of those phone numbers you guys keep speaking about? Girlfriend is out of town on business and I want to get in a lottle trouble, if you know what I mean.
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The link was a little difficult to get to so I thought I'd post the article. Alpha RIP
Woman Made Millions Running Hartford Brothel
3:40 PM EST,March 17, 2004
By MATT BURGARD, The Hartford Courant
A 63-year-old Newington woman has pleaded guilty to charges that she made millions of dollars over the last 25 years as the "madam" of a Hartford brothel that billed itself as a health and fitness center.
In a hearing today at U.S. District Court in Hartford, Gail Gaer admitted that, as an owner of the Alpha Leisure & Health Club Inc. on Franklin Avenue, she profited from a large-scale prostutition operation that employed dozens of prostitutes and numbered more than 4,600 "customers," according to federal prosecutors.
The lengthy investigation into the club came after years of complaints from residents in the city's South End, where the club is located next to a deli on one of Hartford's most famous thoroughfares. Residents repeatedly said they suspected prostitution was taking place at the club after seeing men and women enter the building at all hours, even when the club appeared closed.
Kevin J. O'Connor, the U.S. attorney for Connecticut, said the crackdown was the result of intensive cooperation between federal law enforcement and Hartford police, as well as the public.
"This was a significant and sophisticated prostitution operation that existed for too long," he said.
BTW Spearsman 450k a year for 25 years is a lot of money
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Bill Buxton...Glad you enjoyed Betty too. Glad to be of service.
I strongly suggest you read the ENTIRE article in todays Hartford Courant. The post before this DID NOT have all the pertainant details an was an early edition of the Courant story.
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Dear MyHobby:
Yes, 450K a year would add up to a lot of money if one could keep all of it.
But my point was that many of the expenses of running Alpha are unavoidable expenses that must be paid for in cash. It is possible that soda and paper cups were supplied to Alpha free of charge by a horny Coca-Cola truck driver in return for an "oral greeting" but that won't work with CL&P, the MDC, SNET, etc.
And after you deduct all of the unavoidable costs of doing business, more than half of the supposed 450 K is gone, leaving a healthy amount to pay for the owner's daily living expenses (house, car, food, clothing, etc.) but most likely not enough to add up to several million dollars in a Swiss bank account.
So there has to be more to the story than what we were told this morning. But this is pure speculation on my part, nothing more.
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Mighty Spearsman:
I understand what you're saying, you may be right about there being more to it, but the article indicates this lady was running this business for 25 years.
If your estimates are accurate, $450,000 per year, for 25 years equals $11.25 million. Even if her NET profit was only half of this (I would estimate it would be more like 60 - 70%), that's more than $5.5 million to invest. Remember, this is her principal investment, spread over a 25 year period. Even at a very conservative estimate of a 5% return and monthly investments, she could have netted over $11.25 million, and with a more likely return of 10%, we're looking at almost $25 million.
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Monger22,
I just read your post on Melissa from New Britain. Unfortunately I don't have an apartment for her. I would not mind running into her on the streets of New Britain.
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Thats not true, I run a restaurant and last year we had a sale of $900,000. How much did I get to keep? Around 300k after all the expenses. So you keep a lot less then half in a legal business. But if you need to pay off the cops and stuff you will keep even less.
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Thats not true, I run a restaurant and last year we had a sale of $900,000... How much did I get to keep? Around 300k after all the expenses. So you keep a lot less then half in a legal business. But if you need to pay off the cops and stuff you will keep even less.
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Mighty: Your annual gross is flawed. Just look at Thursday, Friday,
and Saturday nites alone. Were talking 10 rooms here. How many
of these nites has there been "waiting for room" only!
Days, almost always by apointment. How many times did you see
only 1 or 2 girls in the longue, out of 10 on schedule.
I'd take you figure and triple it, easily.
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Can anyone recomend a short stya hotel in the Hartfrod, CT area.
And what the expected cost are along with how many hours to expect.
Thanks
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Help Needed:
Net profit margin is very industry dependent. I am a small business owner, and my net margin is a bit over 68%. Her overhead would not have approached that of a typical restaurant operation. In addition, I’m not knowledgeable as to how much additional income she may have received from any cut of the tips she may have required from the girls.
By the way, your 33% net profit margin is quite good for the restaurant business.
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Short stay in Hartford: just past Hooters on the Berlin Turnpike there is one called High Ridge. $35 for 2 hours. Not bad. You need to show id so do not try signing Mickey Mouse on registration card. I have also used the USA which is on that same side by Hoffmans. Very nice for a short stay. Don't recall what I paid. Howard Johnson on Silas Deane does short stay also, but does not advertise that.
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More on Alpha from the Courant:
http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/hr/hc-brothel0318.artmar18,1,6942414.story
My favorite quote:
"The amount of time and resources that went into this operation was just incredible," said acting Hartford Police Chief Mark R. Pawlina
But I'm confused. The article seems to be missing any comments about the victims of this heinous crime. It just had to be terrible, pulling police and Feds away from high priorities of drug dealers and violent street crime. Probably unmentionable. Best left unsaid.
Turbo Trader
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She was making good money, but I think she got greedy. From all accounts, some hands didn't get paid and she flaunted them. They decided to up the antey on her, busting her balls as usual. Unlike other times however, someone bit off more than they can chew. Didn't expect the feds to get so doggedly involved.
If you notice, the big tag was due to credit cards. Funny isn't it? Yet what is amazing is how they made the connect via receipts. Did she really keep receipts and customer signed them? Can't be.
We ourselves had a big discussion about credit cards and and providers. The number ONE method used to shut these places down has been through credit cards. It has far from shut the industry down, yet its clear now and forever more...don't use'em....ever.
Tax dollars down a hole yet again of course..yet, who will have the balls to take up the niche left by the A? There is nothing besides SW and crack addicts in Central Mass, Central CT, Eastern CT, or South Eastern Ct. She raked in cause her competition was gone, she had great safe, consistent locale that was crime free and she had backing.
In my mind, I have to wonder what those thousands and thousands of hard working, money making clients have gone to? All walks of life that were gainfully employed or had means to enjoy a treat. Are they at the Waterbury AMPs? Bridgeport AMPs? Private escorts viz Advocate? Bangng there wive's best friends?
Also...she plead guilty. That in of itself is curious. Plea bargain to get others?
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I think you hit it again Stoner, The same thing happened to Brandy (Of Tiki Gardens in Norwich) 20 years ago.
Once the Feds get you for tax evasion, A plea bargain could be your only hope that you won't spend the next thirty years in the can.
If she only does five years, when she's out she will still have her coffee cans filled with cash to live on.
I was recently told the LE in R.I. are aware what goes on in the AMP'S. They would rather let that go on, then see us getting it in some parking lot for all the world to witness.
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My two cents on turnpike lodging,
I would go a little further down the Pike and use the Grantmoor.
The same short stay price ( $ 35 ) as the others mentioned, but with a much cleaner and safer atmosphere. Also, discreet parking in back.
G