Thanks! You are talking about Reagan Dr. Right?
[QUOTE=Queen City Guy; 1397483]Also the opposite way, that is off SC between McD's & SPWY back over to Graham. Lot of action. Lot of heat, be careful.
Or that's what I've heard.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks! You are talking about Reagan Dr. Right?
[QUOTE=Queen City Guy; 1397483]Also the opposite way, that is off SC between McD's & SPWY back over to Graham. Lot of action. Lot of heat, be careful.
Or that's what I've heard.[/QUOTE]
I have almost given up on SW also, just way too hit and miss. But I do ride through when I have time, and caught one Feb 25th. I know, nice timely report. Found Cali, or Kalli, or something of the variety on Regan just down from the corner. Her story was she had been waiting at the store for her husband who hadn't picked her up. She said they had a fight the night before, didn't know if he was still mad, but that they were suppose to meet some friends at the notel. Let her use my burner to call him. She agreed to meet him at the place when done with me. We went for a car date at a great little spot I have off the path. She jumped right up on top of me facing away in the driver seat. Great little ass, would love to find her and hook up for a date in a room. Dark hair, not skinny cracked out or heavy, just right. I do have her husbands number, could ring him and try to find her, but thats wrong in so many ways. If anyone runs into her let me know.
Anyone ever run into LE while leaving a room, or in the parking lot, of a dumpy notel? It's always been one of my fears on how to respond if that happened to me.
Hasn't happened yet but I am trying to figure out what I would say if that happened. A middle aged white guy in the lot of a motel off Sugar Creek sticks out like a sore thumb.
Any advice?
You say as little as possible, or better yet, NOTHING at all. You just go about your business. Other than perhaps saying hello, just ignore him. If he asks you what you were doing in the room, just ask him "is there a problem officer?" You do not need to answer his questions. Officers are trained to ask you questions; and his questions that are often designed to keep you talking and to lead you into incriminating yourself. It is my understanding that you are not legally obligated to answer his questions. But if he does trick you into saying things that incriminate you, he can use that information against you and place you under arrest. If he persists in asking you questions, just ask him: "Am I free to leave?" which is an indirect way of asking if you are under arrest for anything. Unless he has grounds to arrest you, I think he must let you go. If anyone reading this is an attorney, or has training in law, I would actually like to hear some educated opinions.
Believe me, everyone in this hobby needs to think through this BEFORE it happens. Because when it happens, the officers know you are very nervous and afraid, and they take advantage of that by keeping you talking and answering their questions. You do not want to lie to LEO, and you obviously don't want to tell the officer that you were screwing a girl from BP for money, so you just need to say nothing. If the officer keeps pushing for answers, and will not let you leave, then politely tell him that you wish to have legal counsel available.
I have pasted a video link below of a lecture by a professor from the College of Law at Regent University (Virginia) who strongly advocates never answering any questions from LEO under any circumstances, even if you are 100% innocent. It is interesting and very informative.
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865[/url]#
Peace,
JM.
[QUOTE=Nightwatchman1; 1399711]Anyone ever run into LE while leaving a room, or in the parking lot, of a dumpy notel? It's always been one of my fears on how to respond if that happened to me. Hasn't happened yet but I am trying to figure out what I would say if that happened. A middle aged white guy in the lot of a motel off Sugar Creek sticks out like a sore thumb.
Any advice?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rbw88;1396596]I know this is not the correct area but Lancaster does not have a place on the board and we are close. Was talking with someone who mentioned drugs and prostitution had gotten bad in Lancaster sc and I looked on line and they have a prostitution free zone listed so there must be some action there. Anybody have any info on what and where things may be good in Lancaster? Also been a long time since any SW action reported south of the city any place resuming action on the south side?[/QUOTE]I would like to know of any action in Lancaster myself!
As most mongers would or should know, there was a bust at the hotels in the SC area a few weeks ago. Since then being as it is on my way home from work I have made a pass down TH every night or two, usually in the 10:30 to 11:30 pm range. No actual mongering, just checking it out.
Much has changed, for the most part all the girls that where often seen are gone, the hawaiian heavyset chic that was often seen? I have only seen her once Ditto for the WSW with one hand.
What I have seen several times is what concerns me is a couple of BSW one in particular a tall leggy one unlike the girls that used to work that area these are dressed like well, hookers
The old SW's were just casual dress these are dressed to attract, One night I seen the tall one in heels short daisy dukes shorts and black stockings. She actually put her hands on her hips and shock her ass as I drove by. LOL. I smell a rat or undercover LEO.
My advice is if you choice to monger in this area be very careful about it.
Stay safe.
A4
[QUOTE=Aries4; 1405967]As most mongers would or should know, there was a bust at the hotels in the SC area a few weeks ago. Since then being as it is on my way home from work I have made a pass down TH every night or two, usually in the 10:30 to 11:30 pm range. No actual mongering, just checking it out.
Much has changed, for the most part all the girls that where often seen are gone, the hawaiian heavyset chic that was often seen? I have only seen her once Ditto for the WSW with one hand.
What I have seen several times is what concerns me is a couple of BSW one in particular a tall leggy one unlike the girls that used to work that area these are dressed like well, hookers
The old SW's were just casual dress these are dressed to attract, One night I seen the tall one in heels short daisy dukes shorts and black stockings. She actually put her hands on her hips and shock her ass as I drove by. LOL. I smell a rat or undercover LEO.
My advice is if you choice to monger in this area be very careful about it.
Stay safe.
A4[/QUOTE]I think there is a good chance that they are not females. Be careful out there.
NC
[QUOTE=NC Wanderer; 1405982]I think there is a good chance that they are not females. Be careful out there.
NC[/QUOTE]I had that thought as well NC, the one I seen one night I got a look at her face I thought it was JJ Walker (from the old Good Times tv show) in drag
I think all the heat will be heavier till after the DNC. Of course, with all those politicians coming in, they should need more hookers.
Chief Rodney has said he was going to clean up the area though. Dealers, hookers, and thugs in general.
Careful cleaning the THUGS, there won't be any politicians left!
[QUOTE=Screamingsheep; 1406055]I think all the heat will be heavier till after the DNC. Of course, with all those politicians coming in, they should need more hookers.
Chief Rodney has said he was going to clean up the area though. Dealers, hookers, and thugs in general.[/QUOTE]
Here's a long story of what happed to me yesterday. If its too long let me know and I'll get straight to the point in the future. But if you're like me, you enjoy detailed accounts.
I've been a little strict on my cash flow lately and decided that I would test out the SW waters for a bit- BP can be so damn expensive sometimes. Anyway I went for a cruise yesterday around 4pm to see what was new. I saw a couple of he questionable female gender candidates hangin around the sunset inn- previously country hearth. I was flagged down, but that only made me press on the gas LOL. I then headed up near the TH loop and spotted the one-handed WSW that has been mentioned on this board a few times. From what I understand, she tried the BP game for a while too? But, from what I gathered about her from this board is that she was a down to earth girl that provided a decent performance. She has the facial scarring and the bandaged hand thing going on but I thought "what the hell, I'll give it a shot". I pulled up beside her with my window down and told her to meet me at the brookwood inn parking lot across the street. She smiled and said ok. When she makes her way over and hops in, she immediately says,"I'm glad you picked me up, those two Mexican guys tried to a few times" (she starts pointing to a truck that makes a pass by in the parking lot). I didn't care too much for her comment cause I could give a fuck less about race, but I could understand her concern with it being two gentleman as opposed to one. Anyway I asked her about service and how much it was going to cost me, she says "how much you got?". I tell her, and she's like thats perfect, so we start talking about location. She said she didn't have a incall spot, but she knew a nice spot surrounded by woods near a friend's house. Now I hate conducting business outdoors to begin with, but due to the fact that it was in the middle of the day made it a 100% no way. She then says she is about 20 bucks short for a room and if I provided the fee up front she could pay for it and we could go there. Usually a statement like that would make me say,"no thanks, have a nice day". But since she had such a solid reputation on this board, I was much more inclined to take the offer. I still acted reluctant to agree at first, but she secured the deal by saying,"I'm good peoeples, I'm not like these other girls who run a game. I want you to repeat business." So I make the deal and she tells me to pull off at the store on the corner of TH and reagan. She then tells me to wait there while she walked to the economy inn and gets a room. I asked her why we couldn't just dive over there together and she told me that there at cameras and she didn't want to be seen arriving buying a room with a client. Being naive to the situation I said ok, and she headed off in that direction. She said she would be back in about 10-15 min and we would drive to room together. I thought to myself how exactly her method was all that different than what I proposed but I honestly didn't suspect intentional deceit. 15 min came and went, then 30, then 45. I finally gave up my wait near the hr mark, stunned. I couldn't believe I was so stupid.
I decided to call it a day by making one last loop around the SC area. Then to my surprise, who do I see walking towards the shell station on reagan, yep. It was Tabitha. I pulled beside her and threw my hands in the air motioning "what the hell was that about" and she yelled across he road to meet her back at the economy and she had a room. She turns around and starts waking towards the motel. I said ok. And turned around in the brookwood parking lot. As I passed her, she smiled and I turned into the enonomy. If you guys are familiar with the environmental layout, you know there is all kinds of shrubbery obstructing the view of the sidewalk. So after about 30 sec, I think to myself "you're such a trusting fool" and I get back on the road to check on her progression towards me. To my surprise, actually not to my surprise, she is walking fast paced back the other way-toward the gas station. That's when I had enough of this game. I pulled beside her and said "what the fuck is your deal, I trusted you, was a gentleman, and would have only done right by you" During this while a black dude walks up to her and she screams to me "I told you to leave me alone" she then turned toward the guy as if looking for him to say something in her honor. I'm guessing this was her handler or something, but he never said anything- he just glanced over at me and looked back at her. I yelled to him she was a thief but he still was did not say anything. Tabitha never turned back towards me and she only stood there speaking in a soft voice to the guy- I could not hear what was being said. I was like w / e and decided to cut my loses with only monetary depletion. I did not way to jeopardize my well being with further confrontation.
I did nothing to this girl, I'm not a bad looking guy, and I was offering a decent amount. I have no idea why things turned sour, especially wih her decent rep. I was also surprised she had the audacity to contine working so close the the scene of her scam. Anyway, after experiencing a few incidents like these, and BP standups, I've finally realized that you cannot be friends with these girls. I know most of you believe you have great relationships with a few, but here is an experiment to try if you don't believe me. I want you to make a date one day with a regular and show up with no money. Then I want you to see how the situation pans out. If your experience still turns out positive and she insists you stay to hang out, then sure you have a good one. But 90% of the time she will ask you to leave and don't come back until you can ensure financial compensation. I'm not saying you need to be rude to these girls, because I believe you should always be respectful; but you need to always be aware of your relationship status with these providers. They only view you as walking ATMs no matter how nice they appear to be, or how good of a time they claimed to have had- never forget that.
If anyone is a regular of Tabitha, just mention my story by referencing the details I've shared and better substantiating it with stating the guy was in a red car. Of course she will probably swear the event never happened until hell freezes over, but I'm she she will remember. At least it will show her that word gets around. I even felt sorry for her handicap situation at first, does anyone know what happened if it was traumatic, I'm curious.
Thanks for the report Hollowpoint, it's a good read and good info for any monger. I had something like that happen to me once.
Never let them out of your car with your money or they are gone, it even happen in this case with a provider who has had decent reviews in the past.
BTW I seen her on TH the other night so she must be back on the scene.
[QUOTE=John Marigold; 1399931]You say as little as possible, or better yet, NOTHING at all. You just go about your business. Other than perhaps saying hello, just ignore him. If he asks you what you were doing in the room, just ask him "is there a problem officer?" You do not need to answer his questions. Officers are trained to ask you questions; and his questions that are often designed to keep you talking and to lead you into incriminating yourself. It is my understanding that you are not legally obligated to answer his questions. But if he does trick you into saying things that incriminate you, he can use that information against you and place you under arrest. If he persists in asking you questions, just ask him: "Am I free to leave?" which is an indirect way of asking if you are under arrest for anything. Unless he has grounds to arrest you, I think he must let you go. If anyone reading this is an attorney, or has training in law, I would actually like to hear some educated opinions.
Believe me, everyone in this hobby needs to think through this BEFORE it happens. Because when it happens, the officers know you are very nervous and afraid, and they take advantage of that by keeping you talking and answering their questions. You do not want to lie to LEO, and you obviously don't want to tell the officer that you were screwing a girl from BP for money, so you just need to say nothing. If the officer keeps pushing for answers, and will not let you leave, then politely tell him that you wish to have legal counsel available.
I have pasted a video link below of a lecture by a professor from the College of Law at Regent University (Virginia) who strongly advocates never answering any questions from LEO under any circumstances, even if you are 100% innocent. It is interesting and very informative.
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865[/url]
#
Peace,
JM.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the link JM. Very informative.
[QUOTE=Hollowpoint1; 1406663]Here's a long story of what happed to me yesterday. If its too long let me know and I'll get straight to the point in the future. But if you're like me, you enjoy detailed accounts.
I've been a little strict on my cash flow lately and decided that I would test out the SW waters for a bit- BP can be so damn expensive sometimes. Anyway I went for a cruise yesterday around 4pm to see what was new. I saw a couple of he questionable female gender candidates hangin around the sunset inn- previously country hearth. I was flagged down, but that only made me press on the gas LOL. I then headed up near the TH loop and spotted the one-handed WSW that has been mentioned on this board a few times. From what I understand, she tried the BP game for a while too? But, from what I gathered about her from this board is that she was a down to earth girl that provided a decent performance. She has the facial scarring and the bandaged hand thing going on but I thought "what the hell, I'll give it a shot". I pulled up beside her with my window down and told her to meet me at the brookwood inn parking lot across the street. She smiled and said ok. When she makes her way over and hops in, she immediately says,"I'm glad you picked me up, those two Mexican guys tried to a few times" (she starts pointing to a truck that makes a pass by in the parking lot). I didn't care too much for her comment cause I could give a fuck less about race, but I could understand her concern with it being two gentleman as opposed to one. Anyway I asked her about service and how much it was going to cost me, she says "how much you got?". I tell her, and she's like thats perfect, so we start talking about location. She said she didn't have a incall spot, but she knew a nice spot surrounded by woods near a friend's house. Now I hate conducting business outdoors to begin with, but due to the fact that it was in the middle of the day made it a 100% no way. She then says she is about 20 bucks short for a room and if I provided the fee up front she could pay for it and we could go there. Usually a statement like that would make me say,"no thanks, have a nice day". But since she had such a solid reputation on this board, I was much more inclined to take the offer. I still acted reluctant to agree at first, but she secured the deal by saying,"I'm good peoeples, I'm not like these other girls who run a game. I want you to repeat business." So I make the deal and she tells me to pull off at the store on the corner of TH and reagan. She then tells me to wait there while she walked to the economy inn and gets a room. I asked her why we couldn't just dive over there together and she told me that there at cameras and she didn't want to be seen arriving buying a room with a client. Being naive to the situation I said ok, and she headed off in that direction. She said she would be back in about 10-15 min and we would drive to room together. I thought to myself how exactly her method was all that different than what I proposed but I honestly didn't suspect intentional deceit. 15 min came and went, then 30, then 45. I finally gave up my wait near the hr mark, stunned. I couldn't believe I was so stupid.
I decided to call it a day by making one last loop around the SC area. Then to my surprise, who do I see walking towards the shell station on reagan, yep. It was Tabitha. I pulled beside her and threw my hands in the air motioning "what the hell was that about" and she yelled across he road to meet her back at the economy and she had a room. She turns around and starts waking towards the motel. I said ok. And turned around in the brookwood parking lot. As I passed her, she smiled and I turned into the enonomy. If you guys are familiar with the environmental layout, you know there is all kinds of shrubbery obstructing the view of the sidewalk. So after about 30 sec, I think to myself "you're such a trusting fool" and I get back on the road to check on her progression towards me. To my surprise, actually not to my surprise, she is walking fast paced back the other way-toward the gas station. That's when I had enough of this game. I pulled beside her and said "what the fuck is your deal, I trusted you, was a gentleman, and would have only done right by you" During this while a black dude walks up to her and she screams to me "I told you to leave me alone" she then turned toward the guy as if looking for him to say something in her honor. I'm guessing this was her handler or something, but he never said anything- he just glanced over at me and looked back at her. I yelled to him she was a thief but he still was did not say anything. Tabitha never turned back towards me and she only stood there speaking in a soft voice to the guy- I could not hear what was being said. I was like w / e and decided to cut my loses with only monetary depletion. I did not way to jeopardize my well being with further confrontation.
I did nothing to this girl, I'm not a bad looking guy, and I was offering a decent amount. I have no idea why things turned sour, especially wih her decent rep. I was also surprised she had the audacity to contine working so close the the scene of her scam. Anyway, after experiencing a few incidents like these, and BP standups, I've finally realized that you cannot be friends with these girls. I know most of you believe you have great relationships with a few, but here is an experiment to try if you don't believe me. I want you to make a date one day with a regular and show up with no money. Then I want you to see how the situation pans out. If your experience still turns out positive and she insists you stay to hang out, then sure you have a good one. But 90% of the time she will ask you to leave and don't come back until you can ensure financial compensation. I'm not saying you need to be rude to these girls, because I believe you should always be respectful; but you need to always be aware of your relationship status with these providers. They only view you as walking ATMs no matter how nice they appear to be, or how good of a time they claimed to have had- never forget that.
If anyone is a regular of Tabitha, just mention my story by referencing the details I've shared and better substantiating it with stating the guy was in a red car. Of course she will probably swear the event never happened until hell freezes over, but I'm she she will remember. At least it will show her that word gets around. I even felt sorry for her handicap situation at first, does anyone know what happened if it was traumatic, I'm curious.[/QUOTE]Damn HP, glad the gift was all you lost.
I know what you mean about letting your self, (fool your self) , that you and your provider are friends. All in all this hobby is a selfish one.
Thanks
I hate to get enjoyment out of your pain but I have to admit you made my week with this report. You got ripped off by a 1 handed scar faced chick. Don't you just love the game, only in america. Don't feel bad the same thing has happened to all of us with maybe the exception of the one hand. I was feeling bad I was the only fool that got skunked at Aloha but for some reason life seems better after reading this.
[QUOTE=Hollowpoint1; 1406663]Here's a long story of what happed to me yesterday. If its too long let me know and I'll get straight to the point in the future. But if you're like me, you enjoy detailed accounts.
I've been a little strict on my cash flow lately and decided that I would test out the SW waters for a bit- BP can be so damn expensive sometimes. Anyway I went for a cruise yesterday around 4pm to see what was new. I saw a couple of he questionable female gender candidates hangin around the sunset inn- previously country hearth. I was flagged down, but that only made me press on the gas LOL. I then headed up near the TH loop and spotted the one-handed WSW that has been mentioned on this board a few times. From what I understand, she tried the BP game for a while too? But, from what I gathered about her from this board is that she was a down to earth girl that provided a decent performance. She has the facial scarring and the bandaged hand thing going on but I thought "what the hell, I'll give it a shot". I pulled up beside her with my window down and told her to meet me at the brookwood inn parking lot across the street. She smiled and said ok. When she makes her way over and hops in, she immediately says,"I'm glad you picked me up, those two Mexican guys tried to a few times" (she starts pointing to a truck that makes a pass by in the parking lot). I didn't care too much for her comment cause I could give a fuck less about race, but I could understand her concern with it being two gentleman as opposed to one. Anyway I asked her about service and how much it was going to cost me, she says "how much you got?". I tell her, and she's like thats perfect, so we start talking about location. She said she didn't have a incall spot, but she knew a nice spot surrounded by woods near a friend's house. Now I hate conducting business outdoors to begin with, but due to the fact that it was in the middle of the day made it a 100% no way. She then says she is about 20 bucks short for a room and if I provided the fee up front she could pay for it and we could go there. Usually a statement like that would make me say,"no thanks, have a nice day". But since she had such a solid reputation on this board, I was much more inclined to take the offer. I still acted reluctant to agree at first, but she secured the deal by saying,"I'm good peoeples, I'm not like these other girls who run a game. I want you to repeat business." So I make the deal and she tells me to pull off at the store on the corner of TH and reagan. She then tells me to wait there while she walked to the economy inn and gets a room. I asked her why we couldn't just dive over there together and she told me that there at cameras and she didn't want to be seen arriving buying a room with a client. Being naive to the situation I said ok, and she headed off in that direction. She said she would be back in about 10-15 min and we would drive to room together. I thought to myself how exactly her method was all that different than what I proposed but I honestly didn't suspect intentional deceit. 15 min came and went, then 30, then 45. I finally gave up my wait near the hr mark, stunned. I couldn't believe I was so stupid.
I decided to call it a day by making one last loop around the SC area. Then to my surprise, who do I see walking towards the shell station on reagan, yep. It was Tabitha. I pulled beside her and threw my hands in the air motioning "what the hell was that about" and she yelled across he road to meet her back at the economy and she had a room. She turns around and starts waking towards the motel. I said ok. And turned around in the brookwood parking lot. As I passed her, she smiled and I turned into the enonomy. If you guys are familiar with the environmental layout, you know there is all kinds of shrubbery obstructing the view of the sidewalk. So after about 30 sec, I think to myself "you're such a trusting fool" and I get back on the road to check on her progression towards me. To my surprise, actually not to my surprise, she is walking fast paced back the other way-toward the gas station. That's when I had enough of this game. I pulled beside her and said "what the fuck is your deal, I trusted you, was a gentleman, and would have only done right by you" During this while a black dude walks up to her and she screams to me "I told you to leave me alone" she then turned toward the guy as if looking for him to say something in her honor. I'm guessing this was her handler or something, but he never said anything- he just glanced over at me and looked back at her. I yelled to him she was a thief but he still was did not say anything. Tabitha never turned back towards me and she only stood there speaking in a soft voice to the guy- I could not hear what was being said. I was like w / e and decided to cut my loses with only monetary depletion. I did not way to jeopardize my well being with further confrontation.
I did nothing to this girl, I'm not a bad looking guy, and I was offering a decent amount. I have no idea why things turned sour, especially wih her decent rep. I was also surprised she had the audacity to contine working so close the the scene of her scam. Anyway, after experiencing a few incidents like these, and BP standups, I've finally realized that you cannot be friends with these girls. I know most of you believe you have great relationships with a few, but here is an experiment to try if you don't believe me. I want you to make a date one day with a regular and show up with no money. Then I want you to see how the situation pans out. If your experience still turns out positive and she insists you stay to hang out, then sure you have a good one. But 90% of the time she will ask you to leave and don't come back until you can ensure financial compensation. I'm not saying you need to be rude to these girls, because I believe you should always be respectful; but you need to always be aware of your relationship status with these providers. They only view you as walking ATMs no matter how nice they appear to be, or how good of a time they claimed to have had- never forget that.
If anyone is a regular of Tabitha, just mention my story by referencing the details I've shared and better substantiating it with stating the guy was in a red car. Of course she will probably swear the event never happened until hell freezes over, but I'm she she will remember. At least it will show her that word gets around. I even felt sorry for her handicap situation at first, does anyone know what happened if it was traumatic, I'm curious.[/QUOTE]