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[QUOTE=Scatamoochie;3022383]If you search her. . . [/QUOTE]It always makes me a little sad when ladies are too free with their personal info. Discreet ladies make for safer clients.
I'm probably as good as most on digging up details, so it's hypocritical to say this, but . . .
Is it really necessary to out somebody in a public forum? If an advertiser is a notorious crazed ripoff, I can see a rationale, but for a garden-variety provider? Why?
Some info is better handled via pm.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;3022474]It always makes me a little sad when ladies are too free with their personal info. Discreet ladies make for safer clients.
I'm probably as good as most on digging up details, so it's hypocritical to say this, but . . .
Is it really necessary to out somebody in a public forum? If an advertiser is a notorious crazed ripoff, I can see a rationale, but for a garden-variety provider? Why?
Some info is better handled via pm.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]Amen, Jeepster. You do a hell of a service to everyone on this board with your research. And I think the providers have a right to privacy unless they rip somebody off. I was so happy that I'd taken a chance on an ad with no name and only a poor face shot in a purple T shirt. I was attempting to get her to take down her BP posts when someone decided to help her out by tying her photo to her name and putting her vagina closeup on the board. I think we all prefer a UTR for our own protection.
[QUOTE=BnaGuy;3059983]Amen, Jeepster. You do a hell of a service to everyone on this board with your research. And I think the providers have a right to privacy unless they rip somebody off. I was so happy that I'd taken a chance on an ad with no name and only a poor face shot in a purple T shirt. I was attempting to get her to take down her BP posts when someone decided to help her out by tying her photo to her name and putting her vagina closeup on the board. I think we all prefer a UTR for our own protection.[/QUOTE]I will double down on that thanks. In jist this past week I've seen pics that I wouldn't think the provider wanted posted, marital status, spousal jail status and provider names that they did not give themselves. All this by men hiding behind fake profile handles on an anonymous site.
[QUOTE=Quake3;3000324]Don't know about the other but for me HELL NO. I don't even want them to know about my real name or what I do. If I do that I rather just go pick up a girl friend. First question I always ask myself is why I pay for them, I do pay because I don't want freaking headache like having a girl fiend or FWB. I want F and go no hard feeling. I don't use real email don't register to any verify site. I email or call or txt on untracable phone email I would not check in any personal laptop or phone, If I do there is multiple ways to hide all that website search or check them.
Some may ok or don't care about social media but I do, It can't turn my world upside down does not mean I m married and cheat but for business for social it is bad.
I enjoy this hobby and like most woman I see but I would not exchange my personal life with them. I don't rant or crown some woman here ass.
I did have some issue when I first started this hobby. There are couple of them keep calling me even on untraceable phone and email I used. Beginning from flirting to want real relationship, scare hell of me.
My ideal here is enjoy them have fun but we all know all about the green and keep all your private life in your self. If the girl ask too much information about you or try verify you move on to the next one, One phone call most of us can convince most of the girl we are here to have fun and they will receive benefit of it.
I have not have one girl turn me down because I said I don't use paid verified site or employment or my facebook or instantgram account. One a while they did ask me send pix I agree send one without face that the most I can do for them to check.
No employment status work place. [/QUOTE]I had one turn me down just yesterday because I'm not signed up for a verification site and I wouldn't give her my full real name, address, and send an email from my work email address. Are you freaking kidding me? It's someone we all know too. A of L. I was flabbergasted. From what I read, I guess it's my loss. Know what though, it's hers too because I'm pretty darn awesome. .
[QUOTE=BnaGuy;3059983]I think we all prefer a UTR for our own protection.[/QUOTE]Plus, discreet is sexy. THAT'S the REAL GFE. The girl that does this on the side. Publicizing info / pics can only make the nice girls more reluctant to try this. It's a shame there's not a resource for them, or these girls don't do enough research to keep them from making mistakes early on.
[QUOTE=MrCrazy;3060177]Plus, discreet is sexy. THAT'S the REAL GFE. The girl that does this on the side. Publicizing info / pics can only make the nice girls more reluctant to try this. It's a shame there's not a resource for them, or these girls don't do enough research to keep them from making mistakes early on.[/QUOTE]Ladies will make newbie mistakes, members here will too. It takes a bit of time to learn the safest ways to share info here.
I'm reminded of a retired ATF who used her regular cell number for a couple of weeks when starting out. Which wouldn't normally have been a big deal, except that she was a recent college grad and had posted her resume online with the number, real name and home address. I told her what I had found and she started using a burner app ASAP.
Now that Facebook is urging all users to submit phone number info in the name of security, a huge number of members there (not just providers) are being put at risk.
LEO's job doesn't need to be made any easier.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;3060669]Ladies will make newbie mistakes, members here will too. It takes a bit of time to learn the safest ways to share info here.
I'm reminded of a retired ATF who used her regular cell number for a couple of weeks when starting out. Which wouldn't normally have been a big deal, except that she was a recent college grad and had posted her resume online with the number, real name and home address. I told her what I had found and she started using a burner app ASAP.
Now that Facebook is urging all users to submit phone number info in the name of security, a huge number of members there (not just providers) are being put at risk.
LEO's job doesn't need to be made any easier.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]I know that some guys will consider telling a provider about how lax her online privacy is, as a breach of the "Bros before Ho's" ethos.
But there are solid reasons to help the ladies on this.
If LEO can easily figure out a provider's identity, then they have leverage that can put her clients at risk.
If a provider has had a brush with the law, then clearly LEO knows all about her. But most smart (lucky?) ladies manage to evade intake. So it's to our benefit to assist in keeping them safe.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=SinTime;3060106]I had one turn me down just yesterday because I'm not signed up for a verification site and I wouldn't give her my full real name, address, and send an email from my work email address. Are you freaking kidding me? It's someone we all know too. A of L. I was flabbergasted. From what I read, I guess it's my loss. Know what though, it's hers too because I'm pretty darn awesome. .[/QUOTE]Like I posted earlier (down a few posts), had a similar experience with a different but well known provider as well. The reason she gave for wanting that much personal info, same as what " your girl " wanted, was because we were going to meet at her place of residence. If I have read the reviews correctly on A of L, that is the same situation. I guess it kinda makes sense. Once you know where someone lives, you can do all kinds of searches online or other forms and find more information on resident (s) there.
She's trying to be as safe as possible by asking for that information. And you're trying to be as safe as possible by not giving away that information as well. Quite a conundrum, huh? .
Oh well. Life goes on for both parties.
[QUOTE=Jerry1235;3060845]Like I posted earlier (down a few posts), had a similar experience with a different but well known provider as well. The reason she gave for wanting that much personal info, same as what " your girl " wanted, was because we were going to meet at her place of residence. If I have read the reviews correctly on A of L, that is the same situation. I guess it kinda makes sense. Once you know where someone lives, you can do all kinds of searches online or other forms and find more information on resident (s) there.
She's trying to be as safe as possible by asking for that information. And you're trying to be as safe as possible by not giving away that information as well. Quite a conundrum, huh? .
Oh well. Life goes on for both parties.[/QUOTE]You know who doesn't screen? Somebody who desperately needs every dime, for whatever reason. They take a risk because they have little choice. And periodically they get locked up, because that's part of the game.
Who screens heavily? Those with safe situations, who want to keep it that way. Maybe they have another source of income, so they can afford to pick and choose. Maybe their rates are higher so they can afford to be low-volume. Maybe they have a happy family life and they don't see risking it for a few more $.
It's not a coincidence that many who fit the latter description are also great providers, as they have chosen to entertain us because they think it's fun.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;3061044]You know who doesn't screen? Somebody who desperately needs every dime, for whatever reason. They take a risk because they have little choice. And periodically they get locked up, because that's part of the game.
Who screens heavily? Those with safe situations, who want to keep it that way. Maybe they have another source of income, so they can afford to pick and choose. Maybe their rates are higher so they can afford to be low-volume. Maybe they have a happy family life and they don't see risking it for a few more $.
It's not a coincidence that many who fit the latter description are also great providers, as they have chosen to entertain us because they think it's fun.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]I, in no way, shape, or form, meant to imply that they shouldn't screen or even to what depth their screening process should be. You are quite correct in everything you stated. I only pointed out the reason I was given for such stringent screening. She may have had other valid reasons as well but that is the one she went with. I did not take it personal. She was been safe to the best of her abilities.
I agree with your assessment of those that screen heavily are probably the best providers out there. There are exceptions, as there are to everything else, but for the most part they are the best out there.
I'm not trying to get into a dispute over screening with you. I have, and hopefully will continue to do so, always enjoyed your postings. Whether to give out information or to simply make a point. I just found it somewhat funny that he went through the same thing I did but with a different provider, that's all.
[QUOTE=Jerry1235;3061226]I, in no way, shape, or form, meant to imply that they shouldn't screen or even to what depth their screening process should be. You are quite correct in everything you stated. I only pointed out the reason I was given for such stringent screening. She may have had other valid reasons as well but that is the one she went with. I did not take it personal. She was been safe to the best of her abilities.
I agree with your assessment of those that screen heavily are probably the best providers out there. There are exceptions, as there are to everything else, but for the most part they are the best out there.
I'm not trying to get into a dispute over screening with you. I have, and hopefully will continue to do so, always enjoyed your postings. Whether to give out information or to simply make a point. I just found it somewhat funny that he went through the same thing I did but with a different provider, that's all.[/QUOTE]Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I disagreed with your post. If anything I was amplifying on your observations.
-Jeepster1.
I completely agree with all of that. My point (and I'm speaking only for me) is that there needs to be a mutual understanding. I have just as much to lose as them, probably more, so unless you are willing to give out the same information once you get mine, then I can't risk it. Come to think about it, A of L probably is doing exactly that, at least if she owns her residence as an individual and not through a business or a shell. I've heard though that some traveling providers ask for similar info. If they can get it from enough guys then all power to them, but I find it hypocritical. What's more, the provider should realize that if my privacy gets compromised because of sering her, what do you think I'm going to tell the police or my employer or in divorce court? .
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;3061257]Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I disagreed with your post. If anything I was amplifying on your observations.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]I got that, after I posted! Ha ha.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=BnaGuy;3059983]Amen, Jeepster. You do a hell of a service to everyone on this board with your research. And I think the providers have a right to privacy unless they rip somebody off. I was so happy that I'd taken a chance on an ad with no name and only a poor face shot in a purple T shirt. I was attempting to get her to take down her BP posts when someone decided to help her out by tying her photo to her name and putting her vagina closeup on the board. I think we all prefer a UTR for our own protection.[/QUOTE]Guys, I had no ill intent toward Kala at all. I didn't even know that was her real name. It's just the name that showed up on the phone app. Guess what. My real name is not MrMojo69 either. Most girls don't use their real name so I didn't even think about that possibility. She told me she had been working in this business off and on for 5 years and doing it exclusively since early spring. I don't use Facebook. I didn't research her in any way.
She was getting kicked out of her room for lack of payment and asked for my help. I was literally at the BNA airport waiting for my flight. I even offered her some $ if she could come get it from me but she didn't respond in time. By the time she replied to me I was in Washington DC waiting for my next flight. I told her that if I posted my review she would get guys quickly. I even texted her the content of my words BEFORE I posted the review. She approved it and was very grateful. I asked her for photos to put with the review to get guys to take action. She sent me those photos specifically to post on the review.
I texted with her and called her many times after I posted the review and she was very grateful. She said she was getting lots of business and was happy about it. I am sorry that she now regrets it. She has been VERY busy since so I know she got exactly the help that she asked for and I offered.
Maybe I should have done more homework. Maybe I should have listed her as a UTR but she IS A BACKPAGE ADVERTISER. Any way, I was getting on a 16 hour flight and would not have been available to PM anyone her photos or contact information. I did the best I could to help a girl in need. Sorry if that makes ME the bad guy. I thought the point of this board was to share the good girls with the other guys here. She is not my girl. I am no pimp. So I don't see why you guys expect me to take my time handing out her information one guy at a time in PM. That kind of puts me in some amount of control over her business and that's not what I'm about. I just want to help her and the guys on the board.
Turns out I live in England, and apparently go both ways.
And seem to have an unusual interest in refrigerator magnets.
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-Jeepster1.