Hey guys,
I just found out about SA so my question is in order to be able to chat / start conversation with someone do you need to be a premium user.
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Hey guys,
I just found out about SA so my question is in order to be able to chat / start conversation with someone do you need to be a premium user.
[QUOTE=SkulLord;3708297]Hey guys,
I just found out about SA so my question is in order to be able to chat / start conversation with someone do you need to be a premium user.[/QUOTE]Yes. Non premium access only let's you look.
[QUOTE=SkulLord;3708297]Hey guys,
I just found out about SA so my question is in order to be able to chat / start conversation with someone do you need to be a premium user.[/QUOTE]Yup. That's their thing. You can look but you cannot touch without coughing up the $$.
[QUOTE=Randolph;3708598]Yup. That's their thing. You can look but you cannot touch without coughing up the $$.[/QUOTE]Ok so my quesrion is is it worth the money or to stick with NG girls from backpage till I get verified from EEC and Angelisangels.
I have been on SA--looking for 5 months and subscribed 2 months. It seems to be a buyer's market out here in Colorado; I didn't find it so much that way back in Illinois on a recent trip so YMMV. I would recommend only subscribing month to month. I had no trouble getting many, many good responses that were affordable. I am a fat, old retired guy. I just had 3 fantastic hours this morning with my 24 year old College babe. She's not the fittest girl on the planet, but her 38 DD's and fantastic deep kissing more than make up for any deficit in looks.
You can see my review in the Colorado Springs forum. I try to get a text number and / or email ASAP so I don't have to keep subscribing; I think it's expensive for the subscription. It is much better than Secret Benefits at least out here. The SB chat is TERRIBLE! This sugar baby thing is soooooo much better than the massage / escort scene--at least for me. I want to play, but I also want a connection to the girl as well. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=SkulLord;3708297]Hey guys,
I just found out about SA so my question is in order to be able to chat / start conversation with someone do you need to be a premium user.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SkulLord;3708997]Ok so my quesrion is is it worth the money or to stick with NG girls from backpage till I get verified from EEC and Angelisangels.[/QUOTE]It depends. If money is no object than it probably is. Even if money isn't an object- many guys won't give the sugar the gals on there are looking for. How picky are you? Are you looking for 21 yr old hardbodies or if they're out of shape / stretch marks. fat, or older are you cool with that? Can you afford a nice hotel plus incidentals like a night out on the town along with their gift? I like them fit and in shape myself. Many of the replies I got back wanted 400-600+ and that wasn't necessarily an overnight more like an hour or two plus I still would have had to get a room for many of those. One asked for minimum 1000 (she was much older than 21- like 40 by the way) and I'm in relatively good shape for my age, which I turned down by the way. If you're younger and in good shape you might have more success. Now this was just for the Chicago area which is pricey. Other parts of the country are probably cheaper. So if you travel a lot that might be better- especially if your company picks up the hotel cost. The ones that say they do want to meet sometimes go dark or worse are no shows. I'm not sure why? Maybe their profiles are fake or maybe they're not serious. Whatever the reason- booking a room ahead of time is risky as you might have to eat that cost as well as your time. Also, some on there are pros pretending to be regular gals which I wasn't looking for.
If you decide to do it- I'd only try it for a month or two. Also, there's a ton of good info on the Richmond, VA forum. I would read some of the basics and try to learn from the more experienced sugar mongers- keeping in mind that Richmond is cheaper than Chicago so the gifts are lower there.
[QUOTE=Kellster;3709631]It depends. If money is no object than it probably is. Even if money isn't an object- many guys won't give the sugar the gals on there are looking for. How picky are you? Are you looking for 21 yr old hardbodies or if they're out of shape / stretch marks. fat, or older are you cool with that? Can you afford a nice hotel plus incidentals like a night out on the town along with their gift? I like them fit and in shape myself. Many of the replies I got back wanted 400-600+ and that wasn't necessarily an overnight more like an hour or two plus I still would have had to get a room for many of those. One asked for minimum 1000 (she was much older than 21- like 40 by the way) and I'm in relatively good shape for my age, which I turned down by the way. If you're younger and in good shape you might have more success. Now this was just for the Chicago area which is pricey. Other parts of the country are probably cheaper. So if you travel a lot that might be better- especially if your company picks up the hotel cost. The ones that say they do want to meet sometimes go dark or worse are no shows. I'm not sure why? Maybe their profiles are fake or maybe they're not serious. Whatever the reason- booking a room ahead of time is risky as you might have to eat that cost as well as your time. Also, some on there are pros pretending to be regular gals which I wasn't looking for.
If you decide to do it- I'd only try it for a month or two. Also, there's a ton of good info on the Richmond, VA forum. I would read some of the basics and try to learn from the more experienced sugar mongers- keeping in mind that Richmond is cheaper than Chicago so the gifts are lower there.[/QUOTE]Wow thanks for the awsome reply will try to see what is the best thanks alot again for the advice.
Frankly, if you are worried about a subscription cost, you won't have a lot of success. Chicago is tough, as it is more expensive. I have eaten the cost of hotels a few times mid day, with nothing to show for it. (with tenacity tho, that person ended up actually showing up after a few hotel misses, and became my regular, just grad hs, super hot chick) I am fit and have no problem meeting someone on my own, so that helps. I negotiate, but don't insult them either.
The yuckier looking girls I won't pay anything more than a trip to a eurospa, or NG girls. Anyone over 30 I do not even bother with. (sugar daddy, not cavities) Really, since that is not my motive for the site to just have a volume of girls, I don't partake. As Kellster said some seasoned pros are on their pretending to be a bit innocent. Others are fakes, or hs girls just trying to get guys in trouble. (or scam them) You can get to know that a bit after being on there a while. This one was so hot, and so good, I almost found myself taking the bait and just sending her money for her persistence, LOL. I did not though. We had coffee for free and I moved on.
Have tried in Michigan and Wisconsin, and they are a bit cheaper, although I did find more scammers in those areas for whatever reason.
It really isn't an escort site. Until you find the super hot one you are looking for, can agree to something decent, and then its much better than agency. It can be much worse also though, their are no sure things.
[QUOTE=ItsHowdyDoody;3709763]Frankly, if you are worried about a subscription cost, you won't have a lot of success. Chicago is tough, as it is more expensive. I have eaten the cost of hotels a few times mid day, with nothing to show for it. (with tenacity tho, that person ended up actually showing up after a few hotel misses, and became my regular, just grad hs, super hot chick) I am fit and have no problem meeting someone on my own, so that helps. I negotiate, but don't insult them either.
The yuckier looking girls I won't pay anything more than a trip to a eurospa, or NG girls. Anyone over 30 I do not even bother with. (sugar daddy, not cavities) Really, since that is not my motive for the site to just have a volume of girls, I don't partake. As Kellster said some seasoned pros are on their pretending to be a bit innocent. Others are fakes, or hs girls just trying to get guys in trouble. (or scam them) You can get to know that a bit after being on there a while. This one was so hot, and so good, I almost found myself taking the bait and just sending her money for her persistence, LOL. I did not though. We had coffee for free and I moved on.
Have tried in Michigan and Wisconsin, and they are a bit cheaper, although I did find more scammers in those areas for whatever reason.
It really isn't an escort site. Until you find the super hot one you are looking for, can agree to something decent, and then its much better than agency. It can be much worse also though, their are no sure things.[/QUOTE]I don't see these problems. I spot it easily, I move on. On some points I agree. Younger is better. Naive, more pliable, physically and mentally. My 30 year old (Body 8. 5 Face Solid 8+ is much more demanding than the 24 year old. A mix of Filipino and Blonde European. Stunning natural face. A little chubby but I'm OK with it. She behaves when I'm with her and she has fun as well. Shy, smarter than she projects. To me the psychology is automatic. If you have anything your willing to share or tell me please do. Until then I will continue to hunt this playground of cuties.
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;3713235]I don't see these problems. I spot it easily, I move on. On some points I agree. Younger is better. Naive, more pliable, physically and mentally. My 30 year old (Body 8. 5 Face Solid 8+ is much more demanding than the 24 year old. A mix of Filipino and Blonde European. Stunning natural face. A little chubby but I'm OK with it. She behaves when I'm with her and she has fun as well. Shy, smarter than she projects. To me the psychology is automatic. If you have anything your willing to share or tell me please do. Until then I will continue to hunt this playground of cuties.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. I've gravitated in the past few years exclusively to SA, less risk, more discrete. From what I've seen, even though everyone wants the young, 20 year old hardbody, the baggage that comes along with that doesn't make it worth it. My 29 year old (DD enhanced, 120 lbs. Body 9, face 9) understands the friendship, knows and LIKES what her end of the arrangement, and gets how important discretion is. If you can find a single mom in her late 20's / early 30's you'll have alot more luck than mining for the diamond in the rough 21 year old. Of course, allowance can be higher with older and they may ultimately be looking for more than just casual meets every so often. Especially if they'are the model, or ex-model type, but just manage that upfront. Always check job listed and education on the profile. Good way to tell. MUA, aestheticians, in some cases dancers (by that age they're on the down side), are a great well to tap. Just my 2 cents.
Has anyone seen Svetanaaaaa, or have any info? I have traded a lot of messages with her. She might have GPS.
Thanks.
BT.
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[QUOTE=FruitNinja;3713235]I don't see these problems. I spot it easily, I move on. On some points I agree. Younger is better. Naive, more pliable, physically and mentally. My 30 year old (Body 8. 5 Face Solid 8+ is much more demanding than the 24 year old. A mix of Filipino and Blonde European. Stunning natural face. A little chubby but I'm OK with it. She behaves when I'm with her and she has fun as well. Shy, smarter than she projects. To me the psychology is automatic. If you have anything your willing to share or tell me please do. Until then I will continue to hunt this playground of cuties.[/QUOTE]No it sounds like you have a good thing going! I def think older can be easier, but they also can be on the downside and are sometimes jealous of the younger girls, and know this maybe their last hurrah. Over 30 I wouldn't even bother with honestly. The easier, more readily available age is probably 27-30 or so. Younger is tougher, but more rewarding if you get one, to me at least. I've turn down a lot of 5's, 6's, and 7's to go after 9, 10's, just because it is more fun.
As far as that Svetlana is concerned or whatever, from the pic she has zero right to have any syndrome of any kind. Talk her down to a manageable dollar amount, or move on. I would guess she is bigger than the picture with the only shot she has, probably tatted up, def not wholesome, possibly a pro. Just my sense, never talked to, wouldn't try to.
[QUOTE=ItsHowdyDoody;3714443]
As far as that Svetlana is concerned or whatever, from the pic she has zero right to have any syndrome of any kind. Talk her down to a manageable dollar amount, or move on. I would guess she is bigger than the picture with the only shot she has, probably tatted up, def not wholesome, possibly a pro. Just my sense, never talked to, wouldn't try to.[/QUOTE]I saw her private pics a while ago. I did not see any tats, but that can change overnight, as we all know. She also looked more "average" than slim, but still very do able. Based on the conversations I had with her I thought she might be a semi pro.
[QUOTE=Rileym;3713772]Couldn't agree more. I've gravitated in the past few years exclusively to SA, less risk, more discrete. From what I've seen, even though everyone wants the young, 20 year old hardbody, the baggage that comes along with that doesn't make it worth it. My 29 year old (DD enhanced, 120 lbs. Body 9, face 9) understands the friendship, knows and LIKES what her end of the arrangement, and gets how important discretion is. If you can find a single mom in her late 20's / early 30's you'll have alot more luck than mining for the diamond in the rough 21 year old. Of course, allowance can be higher with older and they may ultimately be looking for more than just casual meets every so often. Especially if they'are the model, or ex-model type, but just manage that upfront. Always check job listed and education on the profile. Good way to tell. MUA, aestheticians, in some cases dancers (by that age they're on the down side), are a great well to tap. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. I met a dancer, maybe an ex dancer and have had her willing but on hold. She was stripping out of town told me she lived in Hyde Park, she actually lived on the edge of Englewood. Not sure what to make of it. The location got me a little cautious about inviting her to my house but she's hot. Thoughts?
[QUOTE=ItsHowdyDoody;3714443]As far as that Svetlana is concerned or whatever, from the pic she has zero right to have any syndrome of any kind. Talk her down to a manageable dollar amount, or move on. I would guess she is bigger than the picture with the only shot she has, probably tatted up, def not wholesome, possibly a pro. Just my sense, never talked to, wouldn't try to.[/QUOTE]The fact that she's asking you to "don't waste my time" tells me she's a pro. There's a lot of them. At the end of the day anyone that has been in the hobby in one form or another know to expect the unexpected.