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[QUOTE=Sounds;6583366]If it bothers you that much to tip in the middle of the session, do your negotiation up front. Don't wait for the flip to start haggling.[/QUOTE]Sounds. You are experienced and get more for your money by taking the stress off the lady up front. These working girls see some cheap slugs and dread the cheapskate. By dropping your tip up front, you are pleasing the lady who you want service from. You get a bit extra. The next trip it will not be necessary. Makes sense, eh?
[QUOTE=Sounds;6583366]If it bothers you that much to tip in the middle of the session, do your negotiation up front. Don't wait for the flip to start haggling.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you don't know if they will provide more than HE, some girls get spooked if they don't know you and you start negotiating at the start. I've been doing this long enough that I don't need to be told what I should accept or what should or shouldn't bother me.
I'm a frequent flyer at Rose Aromatherapy in Waltham. When they get a new gal, I get a call as happened the other day. Set an appointment, and was met by "Emma" a young, petite, provider. Though she does not understand English, hand gestures and a translator app made for a better than expected massage, and predicable outcome.
[QUOTE=KatSuno1492;6583289]Yeah, but I think a lot of the complaints are that prices have increased 30%+ from before Covid to right after Covid, and we're not suddenly earning 30% more.
I moved back here from San Diego in 2019 and the prices in SD at the time were 30 hhr /40 hr (40 hhr /50 hr for Thai places); HJ 40 with top off, CBJ 60, naked BBJ 80-100, FS 120. I came here and house prices were higher at 40/60, but the rest of the prices were more in line with SD.[/QUOTE]I was blown away on a recent trip to SD. There's literally 20+ shops that do FS. Many do BBBJ without you even asking. Rates were 100 for BBBJ only and 140 for BBBJ plus CFS. Was given a BBFS option for 180 at one place and I did not partake.
I haven't seen many quality girls offer FS in Boston below 180-200. The good ones know they can make 200. Most spas do CBJ for 120. Even the spas that say they don't do that there. A couple of visits in and they usually will do it.
[QUOTE=Sounds;6583366]If it bothers you that much to tip in the middle of the session, do your negotiation up front. Don't wait for the flip to start haggling.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with this. Leave it on the counter at an amount you want to pay. They will see it and doors will be open for you. Having to get up and fish around for a wallet plus negotiating a tip mid massage or tease sucks.
[QUOTE=Flyguy1980;6573670]Recently visited Fangs. Attractive 20's Chinese girl gave me a 30 minute massage, 5'5, 120, Bs, cute feet, painted red toenails. Overall she was attractive, pleasant personality but definitely less experienced. I tried giving her massage and asked for more but she declined. HE was kind of jerky. Location a bit odd next to a restaurant which has workers who take smoke breaks out in the lot and can see you park and walk in the front. I parked on side street and walked over instead. I wouldn't repeat. I did hear another woman when leaving, think she was the one I spoke with on the phone, but didn't get an appearance.
Looks 8.
Attitude 8.
Cleanliness 8.
Feet 7 (proportional toes, nice arches, good taste, good smell, moisture good but overall a little dirty).
HE 4.
Damage 0. 5 + 0. 8.
Fly.[/QUOTE]Name? I'm late 20's myself and would hate to show up just to get a granny. Also your inbox in full. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;6584356]I was blown away on a recent trip to SD. There's literally 20+ shops that do FS. Many do BBBJ without you even asking. Rates were 100 for BBBJ only and 140 for BBBJ plus CFS. Was given a BBFS option for 180 at one place and I did not partake.
I haven't seen many quality girls offer FS in Boston below 180-200. The good ones know they can make 200. Most spas do CBJ for 120. Even the spas that say they don't do that there. A couple of visits in and they usually will do it.[/QUOTE]San Diego has some great Asian girls. I moved back from Vegas after many years. Tons of spots but not as prime as the girls in SD. I planned a business trip every month to SD.
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;6584360]I totally agree with this. Leave it on the counter at an amount you want to pay. They will see it and doors will be open for you. Having to get up and fish around for a wallet plus negotiating a tip mid massage or tease sucks.[/QUOTE]That works great with a known provider and especially known spas like 1021 and North Main. Not that paying after negotiating is a guarantee but some girls will take the cash in the beginning or after negotiating and not provide the agreed services. Best providers I have had do not ask until the end and sometimes only if what I tip is a little light for them. Second best we agree on a price but they do not insist on cash in hand. Have had some like Lucky at 1021 we agreed on one price but she was so good I actually paid more in the end. That has paid dividends for me. A spa I frequent I will get a new little spinner and nothing seals the deal better than a girl that knows me and let's the new girl know she will be taken care of if she performs. But ya when th get you rock hard, you flip over and just want to take that roll of bliss with them and they make you get up fumble for your wallet then count the cash and then leave the room to put it away is a major mood killer.
[QUOTE=KatSuno1492;6583289]Yeah, but I think a lot of the complaints are that prices have increased 30%+ from before Covid to right after Covid, and we're not suddenly earning 30% more.
I moved back here from San Diego in 2019 and the prices in SD at the time were 30 hhr /40 hr (40 hhr /50 hr for Thai places); HJ 40 with top off, CBJ 60, naked BBJ 80-100, FS 120. I came here and house prices were higher at 40/60, but the rest of the prices were more in line with SD.[/QUOTE]This post reminded me of what is easy to forget, or not know in the first place, that the local environment has its standards and these set expectations. When you travel monger away from home range, you see different standards. To SD I would add Dallas, Chicago, flushing / NYC, orlando (despite FL in the news in the past), spots in Pittsburgh, phoenix area, new orleans. These are places that you don't have to rely on YMMV, although that might be there as well and money talks. I think the common theme might be places with new crop of workers moving in and out of the area.
Here, there are many stable local workers with families, many are home owners. They invite their local girlfriends to learn the work. They age into and through the business. Often grannies are talked about and differences among grannies. Postings here talk about aft mps, instead of AFT AMPs where regardless of who is there you can expect high service (not talking about aamp or agency girls). There have been a few places in this area; sometimes openly discussed but more often utr for PM discussion. Although, not like open boards in these other places. Prowl around on those boards and see the difference.
Recent trip to orlando was mindblowing. Young, stacked spinners in short one-piece, nothing under. Says hi, what you want, interested in 4-hand?-sure; leaves, pops in shower, returns with second mp could have been her twin, both in towels that dropped in unison. Just big smiles. Stunning. No massage, these two just worked in all ways for the next 45 minutes. They were floaters from Flushing. Great attitudes, into it, and no haggling. Didn't matter that I was first timer. It was the standard here. Is worth finding a cheap round trip airfare and doing a long weekend.
This was the kind of experience that would be called BS or a hallucination if posted on the boards here because it is not common in this area. But they were set up for it. Screen Monitor in room that could be watched dfrom the table, had camera feeds to outer door, parking lot, reception area and hallways to rooms. Enough to give plenty of warning. Travel is worth the varierty.
With Summer (or Linda), is HJ the only thing on the menu. If I asked and offered more $$, would I get a BJ. I had a great experience with Summer and Linda, but am wondering if more is potentially on the table.
[QUOTE=Jared260;6585066]This post reminded me of what is easy to forget, or not know in the first place, that the local environment has its standards and these set expectations. When you travel monger away from home range, you see different standards.[/QUOTE]Impossible to argue with your assessment. Why do you think the standards are so different in different cities? You probably have an explanation for that. Would be interesting to hear it.
Anyone been to green door recently? I heard there is a new one there? I am thinking about paying a visit but just wanted to know the current quality before going. Feel free pm me if you have any information.
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;6584356]I was blown away on a recent trip to SD. There's literally 20+ shops that do FS. Many do BBBJ without you even asking. Rates were 100 for BBBJ only and 140 for BBBJ plus CFS. Was given a BBFS option for 180 at one place and I did not partake.
I haven't seen many quality girls offer FS in Boston below 180-200. The good ones know they can make 200. Most spas do CBJ for 120. Even the spas that say they don't do that there. A couple of visits in and they usually will do it.[/QUOTE]I only went to a few places in SD for FS, I preferred going to Tijuana for cheaper / legal / far more options / drinking / hanging out.
When I go for FS nowadays I tend to handle the discussion before getting undressed or paying the HF, or at least within a couple of minutes, so it's far less awkward if I choose not to proceed. Since I moved from the Watertown / Waltham area I generally don't go in the 128 loop anymore for mongering, but in a few places south of Boston I've been quoted 200 by some average providers who wouldn't budge, so I walked. I had this happen at one place, she started with 200, I countered 120, but she held firm for 200. So I walked, and texted the manager about it, and that that most American men don't want to haggle like that for service.
And they definitely talk to each other. I recently had a case where I was able to get additional services from provider 1 and I paid accordingly, then once she was out of rotation provider 2 wanted the same amount for standard services, saying that's what I paid provider 1. After a few minutes of back and forth I simply "Nope"d out.
[QUOTE=HappyDave;6584407]That works great with a known provider and especially known spas like 1021 and North Main. Not that paying after negotiating is a guarantee but some girls will take the cash in the beginning or after negotiating and not provide the agreed services. Best providers I have had do not ask until the end and sometimes only if what I tip is a little light for them. Second best we agree on a price but they do not insist on cash in hand. Have had some like Lucky at 1021 we agreed on one price but she was so good I actually paid more in the end. That has paid dividends for me. A spa I frequent I will get a new little spinner and nothing seals the deal better than a girl that knows me and let's the new girl know she will be taken care of if she performs. But ya when th get you rock hard, you flip over and just want to take that roll of bliss with them and they make you get up fumble for your wallet then count the cash and then leave the room to put it away is a major mood killer.[/QUOTE]Yes to all of this.
[QUOTE=Pornicasian;6564107]Peaceful orchid. Wow.
St parking, in a residential neighborhood, got me a bit on edge. Though that edge soon melted away.
I called a few hours prior for 1 hr appt. Got? Lala. From NY, probably in 30's. Amazing body top (at least D) and bottom, all natural. Massage was standard soft, could've been better, but younger ones tend to be less focused on the massage these days. House. 7.
Tease was good, on the flip, got 1. 6 for CBJ and CFS. Also did this tease where she rubbed her tits all over your body to get you hard while looking into your eyes, while holding her lips in so she doesn't accidentally allow the impulse to kiss take over. Quite hot. Will leave out the specifics of the cfs and CBJ, but can assume that I left quite happy.
She's there till end of the month.[/QUOTE]I was intrigued by all these favorable reports of Miss Lala, but I never got a chance to go see her. Now that she's gone, has anyone seen her replacement?