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[QUOTE=OneOne9;6730949]This is what happens when guys "tip well" for little service. Guys are paying $200 for a massage and handy. Not too long ago half of that was the standard rate paid.[/QUOTE]IMO currently to get a massage at a professional massage place, you're paying 135 to 150 for the hour. 200 for a massage and a handy isn't that bad (if the massage is decent). My two cents.
[QUOTE=BookOfMorty;6731062]IMO currently to get a massage at a professional massage place, you're paying 135 to 150 for the hour. 200 for a massage and a handy isn't that bad (if the massage is decent). My two cents.[/QUOTE]Only that you can get a great massage for about 45 minutes and a basic handy for about $100-120. If you're paying anything more, you're leaving more than your two cents on the table.
[QUOTE=OnlyToPost;6230725]Anyone catch Eva by chance? Was wondering if anyone met with her yet and know if the price is worth the experience. I want to get some feedback if possible from people who say her to make sure it's worth as the last time I paid that high of a price got burned by a lackluster experience. Cheers.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/forevalynn[/URL][/QUOTE]Apologies for replying to this old thread. Did you see Eva? How was the experience? She is going to visit my area. She looks really cute but the rate is also high. Not sure if it worth the money?
[QUOTE=OneOne9;6730949]This is what happens when guys "tip well" for little service. Guys are paying $200 for a massage and handy. Not too long ago half of that was the standard rate paid.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BookOfMorty;6731062]IMO currently to get a massage at a professional massage place, you're paying 135 to 150 for the hour. 200 for a massage and a handy isn't that bad (if the massage is decent). My two cents.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RayKurin;6731093]Only that you can get a great massage for about 45 minutes and a basic handy for about $100-120. If you're paying anything more, you're leaving more than your two cents on the table.[/QUOTE]Gentleman, may I suggest moving this conversation to the Massage section?
If you go there, you can read a post I submitted yesterday which lists 20 AMPs where I have gotten an hour of massage and boom boom for 200 TOTAL. There are more I did not list.
No need to cave in to greedy pussy. I'm always prepared to walk away, because the next place will say yes.
Be strong and RESIST.
Been meaning to see her since she's pretty close to me but felt sketch since her number doesn't pop up in a lot of places. What was the menu like?
[QUOTE=Ledes;6730881]Today in was browsing the web and came across this Gal and at first I sketch as anyone would.
But we scheduled and met and she wasn't disappointing nice bod, tight.
100% recommend.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/oregon/portland/162600796[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;6731166]Gentleman, may I suggest moving this conversation to the Massage section?
[/QUOTE]My post was a response to AMP guides post "Prices". He asks why are the escort rates so high? IMHO it all starts with the AMPs, guys "tipping well" at $200 for a massage and handy drives up the AMP rates and escorts follow with their increase.
[QUOTE=Kinksterr;6730953]Anything more you can share? Did you get Greek? BBBJ? BBFS? The rate? Incall a hotel or private? Nice place?[/QUOTE]All of theses questions please.
[QUOTE=OneOne9;6731206]My post was a response to AMP guides post "Prices". He asks why are the escort rates so high? IMHO it all starts with the AMPs, guys "tipping well" at $200 for a massage and handy drives up the AMP rates and escorts follow with their increase.[/QUOTE]I see it as two different systems. Prices in the Pacific Northwest are artificially high because of the GPS board escorts. Their tactics include contacting the lowest priced escorts and pressuring / bullying them to raise their prices. Weak men that cave in to the ridiculous prices cause that problem to amplify and continue.
The prices at most AMPs are reasonable, but if one of the girls gets transferred from New York in particular, they often insist on higher tip amounts. Again, insecure men that cave in continue that problem. I offer 200 total soon as I'm alone with the girl, this method works almost always. If not, I either go to the next shop (which will say yes), or if it's an exceptional circumstance I use the advice of another gentleman, an extra 20 will turn a frown upside down.
Being willing to walk out and encouraging other men to be strong instead of caving in are the most powerful things we can all do. RESIST
I am certain I have fallen prey to that. After all I am there. Might as well get something. I am naked and relaxed. After all we are paying for a nice room. A warm room. Not some hotel room by the hour or two which you cannot do anymore. And there is no threat of being followed or harrased by LE like in picking up a girl on the street. But you are right we need to stand a little more solid when it comes to the outrageous prices. I can be certain most girls never get the 800 an hour I see on the SD and Escort alligator and privatedreams sites.
Lets be stronger guys.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=WantsMore;6638199]This girl looks awfully familiar, but I can't remember from where, does anyone here recognize her? [URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?605983-Katrina25[/URL].
P.S. At first, I thought it might be this girl [URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?209584-AlexisBB[/URL] but she's been posting lately that she's in the Longview area.[/QUOTE]Any experienced hobbiest have some info on Katrina. Her reviews from that other board are both from questionable handles.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;6731674]I see it as two different systems. Prices in the Pacific Northwest are artificially high because of the GPS board escorts. Their tactics include contacting the lowest priced escorts and pressuring / bullying them to raise their prices. Weak men that cave in to the ridiculous prices cause that problem to amplify and continue.
The prices at most AMPs are reasonable, but if one of the girls gets transferred from New York in particular, they often insist on higher tip amounts. Again, insecure men that cave in continue that problem. I offer 200 total soon as I'm alone with the girl, this method works almost always. If not, I either go to the next shop (which will say yes), or if it's an exceptional circumstance I use the advice of another gentleman, an extra 20 will turn a frown upside down.
Being willing to walk out and encouraging other men to be strong instead of caving in are the most powerful things we can all do. RESIST[/QUOTE]But I don't think the problem lies with us here. There are so many simps on the GPS board who are delusional on who they are interacting with. They seem to think it's something of a dating site and their persona and board interactions matter. Their persona doesn’t matter to 90% of the ladies there. Look at how many ladies participate in the discussion board. It's very few. Most are essentially street walkers who found a safer way to operate. There was a time when "high class escorts" were a thing, but the Internet and boards have reduced the barriers to entry and the street prostitute and escort worlds merged. It reminds me of airline travel, it was typically for the well off and when they traveled there was a certain level of decorum and service. Those who couldn't fly took the bus. Now most flights are like a greyhound with wings. It's a mess. Even flying first class is mostly a shit show. You can truly get a first class flying experience but it's typically when flying internationally and it is hugely expensive.
In the "escort" world it's the same. It was for well off guys who could afford the best and paid for top shelf pussy. That world still exists, but now we have the street king they are and "escort" and charging high end escort rates. To be fair, us guys would mostly be street hooker guys, which is fine. But we expect something closer to prices equivalent to flying southwest vs first class on Emeriates to Dubai.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;6731674]I see it as two different systems. Prices in the Pacific Northwest are artificially high because of the GPS board escorts. Their tactics include contacting the lowest priced escorts and pressuring / bullying them to raise their prices. Weak men that cave in to the ridiculous prices cause that problem to amplify and continue.
The prices at most AMPs are reasonable, but if one of the girls gets transferred from New York in particular, they often insist on higher tip amounts. Again, insecure men that cave in continue that problem. I offer 200 total soon as I'm alone with the girl, this method works almost always. If not, I either go to the next shop (which will say yes), or if it's an exceptional circumstance I use the advice of another gentleman, an extra 20 will turn a frown upside down.
Being willing to walk out and encouraging other men to be strong instead of caving in are the most powerful things we can all do. RESIST[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with resisting. Many guys are comfortable paying more and will continue to do so, that's why rates are up. I gave AG two examples of this at AMPs.
The GPS board is blown out of proportion. No one is forcing anyone to read the board or see the providers that post there.
I personally don't have any exceptional circumstances because I never take more with me than I plan on spending. I will not have the extra 20 so she will have a frown and I will take my $$ elsewhere.
[QUOTE=QuickFoot;6731788]Any experienced hobbiest have some info on Katrina. Her reviews from that other board are both from questionable handles.[/QUOTE]So are you experienced?
Apologies to Jimmy.
[QUOTE=QuickFoot;6731788]Any experienced hobbiest have some info on Katrina. Her reviews from that other board are both from questionable handles.[/QUOTE]She is real, host out of her condo, is a MILF with mommy marks on her belly, true GFE. Has a cat if you are allergic.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;6731674]I see it as two different systems. Prices in the Pacific Northwest are artificially high because of the GPS board escorts. Their tactics include contacting the lowest priced escorts and pressuring / bullying them to raise their prices. Weak men that cave in to the ridiculous prices cause that problem to amplify and continue.
The prices at most AMPs are reasonable, but if one of the girls gets transferred from New York in particular, they often insist on higher tip amounts. Again, insecure men that cave in continue that problem. I offer 200 total soon as I'm alone with the girl, this method works almost always. If not, I either go to the next shop (which will say yes), or if it's an exceptional circumstance I use the advice of another gentleman, an extra 20 will turn a frown upside down.
Being willing to walk out and encouraging other men to be strong instead of caving in are the most powerful things we can all do. RESIST[/QUOTE]Prices are actually pretty reasonable. I recently was in Colorado and a lady that would normally be 300-400 per hour here was 500-600 per hour easily. In fact, many ladies I saw posted here jacked up their rates considerably over there on tour. I couldn't get anyone halfway decent for under 650. I actually believe the GPS board in someway drives down costs because it makes screening easy for these ladies. In colorado, almost no women use the GPS board. Thus the screening was absolutely insane. They practically wanted bank account numbers and blood samples and it took forever. I think this ends up factoring into cost as well for these ladies because screening takes time, effort, etc and has an opportunity cost which gets passed on to the eventual client.
I dunno. Portland prices right now are actually quite good (and are falling oddly in my opinion). I for one am not complaining in the slightest and I am definitely not insecure; these ladies need me way more than I need them. If things get too expensive, I'll just return to banging girls in the real world.
[QUOTE=Zippy69;6731829]But I don't think the problem lies with us here. There are so many simps on the GPS board who are delusional on who they are interacting with. They seem to think it's something of a dating site and their persona and board interactions matter. Their persona doesnt matter to 90% of the ladies there. Look at how many ladies participate in the discussion board. It's very few. Most are essentially street walkers who found a safer way to operate. There was a time when "high class escorts" were a thing, but the Internet and boards have reduced the barriers to entry and the street prostitute and escort worlds merged. It reminds me of airline travel, it was typically for the well off and when they traveled there was a certain level of decorum and service. Those who couldn't fly took the bus. Now most flights are like a greyhound with wings. It's a mess. Even flying first class is mostly a shit show. You can truly get a first class flying experience but it's typically when flying internationally and it is hugely expensive.
In the "escort" world it's the same. It was for well off guys who could afford the best and paid for top shelf pussy. That world still exists, but now we have the street king they are and "escort" and charging high end escort rates. To be fair, us guys would mostly be street hooker guys, which is fine. But we expect something closer to prices equivalent to flying southwest vs first class on Emeriates to Dubai.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with this as well. Firstly yeah there are simps if you want to use that term but not everyone on that site is a simp. Some of the reviews are very strategic on the part of the reviewer. Persona does matter. If you have the right persona and you're attractive/rich/cool/talented enough (a lot of these ladies really love talented tattoo artists and if you're a tattoo artist in the hobby you will do quite well), you'll get special benefits with these ladies, for free. Some ladies will bang you bare, do anal, let you cum in their mouths, ass, pussy, offer all sorts of kinky things or offer discounts on things like overnight stays, travels, duos, etc etc. I cannot describe enough all the various little things I get offered for a number of reasons or all the various little things I can ask these ladies to do for free or at a major discount. If you're a dick, she'll see you and go through the motions but you won't get any of the perks.
Seeing escorts is very much like dating around. I'm talking about us guys who see ladies for 1 hour+ at a time, and not guys who seek QV or half hour stuff or car dates. I've never done a QV and I'm sure its a very different experience and interaction. But when you're talking seeing a lady for 1+ hour, it is exactly the same except you're skipping the dinner and movie and most of the small talk. You want to get rid of the ladies you don't want to keep around and you want to keep the ladies you like around and get perks and priority treatment and interest out of them. You're not going to get perks by being a dick all the time.