Bareback Beauties

[QUOTE=SlyshyGuy;3950467]Even though there's so many different variations of GFE, by default GFE =/= BBFS.[/QUOTE]It doesn't. GFE is vague. It can include kissing, deep FK, spooning, licking, DATO, DATY, BBBJ, CoF, maybe CIM, maybe camelslide, but still is CFS. Some might do BBFS because they are just horny and don't care. Some will do BBFS but won't kiss, DFK. So it isn't GFE. That why it is YMMV. GFE in some states is wine and dine / sugar baby. CA is all business.

PSE is a trip to Greece, CIM, COF, CIP, CIA, Greece to m, and other fetishes rolled into one.

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;3946440]The liquid zoo in Van Nuys is a great spot for cougars looking to bed a cub for the night:

[URL]https://www.yelp.com/biz/liquid-zoo-van-nuys[/URL]

You're welcome.[/QUOTE]Thank you friend, much appreciated \m /.

Yes this is true. Kay's version of PSE is BBFS, which is why she says to choose beforehand. That way she quotes her requested rate and expects it in full. Like someone said, she did the PSE date at a way lower quoted rate for him at least.

[QUOTE=PhantomPhx69;3950703]It doesn't. GFE is vague. It can include kissing, deep FK, spooning, licking, DATO, DATY, BBBJ, CoF, maybe CIM, maybe camelslide, but still is CFS. Some might do BBFS because they are just horny and don't care. Some will do BBFS but won't kiss, DFK. So it isn't GFE. That why it is YMMV. GFE in some states is wine and dine / sugar baby. CA is all business.

PSE is a trip to Greece, CIM, COF, CIP, CIA, Greece to m, and other fetishes rolled into one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhantomPhx69;3950703]It doesn't. GFE is vague. It can include kissing, deep FK, spooning, licking, DATO, DATY, BBBJ, CoF, maybe CIM, maybe camelslide, but still is CFS. Some might do BBFS because they are just horny and don't care. Some will do BBFS but won't kiss, DFK. So it isn't GFE. That why it is YMMV. GFE in some states is wine and dine / sugar baby. CA is all business.

PSE is a trip to Greece, CIM, COF, CIP, CIA, Greece to m, and other fetishes rolled into one.[/QUOTE]Yea. I don't consider anything PSE unless it's BBFS minimum. Tired of reading reviews from people who claim they got PSE or GFE with a CBJ and CFS. Very deceptive.

I consider GFE to include BBBJ and CFS.

Anything that is CBJ and CFS is non-GFE.

[QUOTE=UltraCreamy;3951960]Yea. I don't consider anything PSE unless it's BBFS minimum. Tired of reading reviews from people who claim they got PSE or GFE with a CBJ and CFS. Very deceptive.

I consider GFE to include BBBJ and CFS.

Anything that is CBJ and CFS is non-GFE.[/QUOTE]I agree completely.

When dealing with a new prostitute my first question is:

- Are you okay with PSE?

If they say yes, then I ask if they are okay with creampies.

If they say no then I move onto the next one.

There should be no doubt that PSE ALWAYS means condom-free.

Unfortunately alot of girls say whatever it takes to get the cash in their hand before giving you a long list of "don'ts".

[QUOTE=UltraCreamy;3951960]Yea. I don't consider anything PSE unless it's BBFS minimum. Tired of reading reviews from people who claim they got PSE or GFE with a CBJ and CFS. Very deceptive.

I consider GFE to include BBBJ and CFS.

Anything that is CBJ and CFS is non-GFE.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. Those types of hobbyists just help promote the ever growing number of non-GFE ladies days. Some even coin the term lite-GFE, which is no different than non-GFE.

[QUOTE=SlyshyGuy;3950467]Even though there's so many different variations of GFE, by default GFE =/= BBFS.[/QUOTE]No. GFE usually means BBBJ, NOT BBFS. GFE has never been synonymous with BBFS here in California. PSE is BBFS by default. Which is why usually if PSE is offered, it's an addon or upsell. GFE is almost always included in the default rate.

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;3952138]I agree completely.

When dealing with a new prostitute my first question is:

- Are you okay with PSE?

If they say yes, then I ask if they are okay with creampies.

If they say no then I move onto the next one.

There should be no doubt that PSE ALWAYS means condom-free.

Unfortunately alot of girls say whatever it takes to get the cash in their hand before giving you a long list of "don'ts".[/QUOTE]This is why I do not use jargon or euphemisms like PSE, GFE, etc, when pre-negotiating. I simply ask them if they will kiss with tongue and fuck without a condom. Leaves a lot less room for misunderstandings, or faux misunderstandings.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3952558]This is why I do not use jargon or euphemisms like PSE, GFE, etc, when pre-negotiating. I simply ask them if they will kiss with tongue and fuck without a condom. Leaves a lot less room for misunderstandings, or faux misunderstandings.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Where I am independents and agencies who advertise as PSE never offer BBFS.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;3952513]No. GFE usually means BBBJ, NOT BBFS. GFE has never been synonymous with BBFS here in California. PSE is BBFS by default. Which is why usually if PSE is offered, it's an addon or upsell. GFE is almost always included in the default rate.[/QUOTE]You pretty much said the same thing I said. GFE =/= BBFS, which is GFE "does not equal" BBFS.

Just an update to a post I posted before.

I saw finally saw Auraxoxo and MysticMyLove (I think she just quit).

Both offered BBFSCIP and MSOG. Auraxoxo was interesting. She originally quoted 1 hr for $400 then bidded herself down. I didn't even negotiate. Must've been a slow week for her.

MysticMyLove was pretty energetic and offered BBFS no CIP but with MSOG.

[QUOTE=Alphau;3947544]Does anyone know of one in OC. Fire Fox used to be the place before it closed years ago.[/QUOTE]I thought Fire Fox reopened? The place on Magnolia near Whitsett? It's called the Fox Fire Room now.

Didn't expect much, saw her profile in the search feature on Hx and messaged her and she had no network. All she said was " 5 bbj go down on her and fuck her" met her at her incall in culver city. She's small petite and cute, A cup and nice ass, she's like the culver city version of SubAmy. On the the session. Sucks my cock which was nice, did 69 and she went on top no cover. She's very tight and told her to slow down, switch to doggy and I told her I can't hold it anymore and going to cum, she told to cum in her, I did, she goes and cleans herself out. $. 5 for bbj bbfscip is not bad, definitely will see her again.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/efc2117

[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;3954918]Didn't expect much, saw her profile in the search feature on Hx and messaged her and she had no network. All she said was " 5 bbj go down on her and fuck her" met her at her incall in culver city. She's small petite and cute, A cup and nice ass, she's like the culver city version of SubAmy. On the the session. Sucks my cock which was nice, did 69 and she went on top no cover. She's very tight and told her to slow down, switch to doggy and I told her I can't hold it anymore and going to cum, she told to cum in her, I did, she goes and cleans herself out. $. 5 for bbj bbfscip is not bad, definitely will see her again.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/efc2117[/QUOTE]Does she have any drug problems? All her pics have her mouth closed and she's rather skinny.

[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;3954918]Didn't expect much, saw her profile in the search feature on Hx and messaged her and she had no network. All she said was " 5 bbj go down on her and fuck her" met her at her incall in culver city. She's small petite and cute, A cup and nice ass, she's like the culver city version of SubAmy. On the the session. Sucks my cock which was nice, did 69 and she went on top no cover. She's very tight and told her to slow down, switch to doggy and I told her I can't hold it anymore and going to cum, she told to cum in her, I did, she goes and cleans herself out. $. 5 for bbj bbfscip is not bad, definitely will see her again.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/efc2117[/QUOTE]Can you PM her number? I wrote to her on HX, but she hasn't responded.

[QUOTE=DonaldDraper;3955648]Can you PM her number? I wrote to her on HX, but she hasn't responded.[/QUOTE]Check your inbox. She's not GFE enough for me so not my flavour.

[QUOTE=MinorLeague;3952818]Agreed. Where I am independents and agencies who advertise as PSE never offer BBFS.[/QUOTE]PSE does not always mean BBFS. For many, PSE = GFE (BBBJ / DFK / DATY) + BLSWS / CIM / COF / CS + a generally more enthusiastic experience. Always good to clarify.

PSE used to mean BARE. A few provider start to bait and switch their menu and when John arrive, they said PSE doesn't mean bare and John start to accept that. If we keep excepting PSE doesn't mean bare. Next thing they advertise BBFS, John arrive and they said BBFS doesn't mean bare, it only mean their back are bare, no clothes on back.

[QUOTE=JakeDiver;3956075]PSE does not always mean BBFS. For many, PSE = GFE (BBBJ / DFK / DATY) + BLSWS / CIM / COF / CS + a generally more enthusiastic experience. Always good to clarify.[/QUOTE]

That PSE for many women does not equate to BBFS. Exchanging messages often times means that PSE to them is GFE but with deepthroat added to the mix or a BJ with added spit. There are a few that it does mean BBFS but does are few and far between in my experience when communicating.

[QUOTE=JakeDiver;3956075]PSE does not always mean BBFS. For many, PSE = GFE (BBBJ / DFK / DATY) + BLSWS / CIM / COF / CS + a generally more enthusiastic experience. Always good to clarify.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;3954918]Didn't expect much, saw her profile in the search feature on Hx and messaged her and she had no network. All she said was " 5 bbj go down on her and fuck her" met her at her incall in culver city. She's small petite and cute, A cup and nice ass, she's like the culver city version of SubAmy. On the the session. Sucks my cock which was nice, did 69 and she went on top no cover. She's very tight and told her to slow down, switch to doggy and I told her I can't hold it anymore and going to cum, she told to cum in her, I did, she goes and cleans herself out. $. 5 for bbj bbfscip is not bad, definitely will see her again.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/efc2117[/QUOTE]I don't get it, I contacted her on HX. We were communicating just fine, then it came time to book she changed her mind and stopped responding without any reason. Maybe she got spooked because too many mongers contacted her at once? I don't know. Was anyone else able to successfully book with her since JB's report? I hate providers that lack communication skills and professionalism. Wasted my time that I had scheduled and now left with blue balls after getting hyped for the last 48 hrs in anticipation. Frustrating!

I know you guys just state the reality that to some providers PSE doesn't mean bareback. To me those providers are bait and switch menu. They pretend like they don't know that PSE mean bare. Without bare, it called GFE!

PSE literally mean Porn Star Experience. Mean John expected to be like porn actor in a porn movie, mean no condom! For those provider who said PSE are not bare, next they will say BBFS does not mean bare anything. It's only mean their back are bare, which mean they will fully disrob when they see you.

[QUOTE=AverageGuy82;3957055]That PSE for many women does not equate to BBFS. Exchanging messages often times means that PSE to them is GFE but with deepthroat added to the mix or a BJ with added spit. There are a few that it does mean BBFS but does are few and far between in my experience when communicating.[/QUOTE]

Even with all those terms I'd have to ask:

Wouldn't GFE be without a rubber in reality?

And PSE are we talking "van nuys" pse? (Like it seems all those porns are covered these days) or German PSE? (Since all those seem to be full on BB).

Yeah I like to stir the pot a lot LOL.

You guys put a lot of effort into this.

You can cruise any of the typical streetwalker tracks and the girls out are the same girls that are advertising and as long as your are polite, clean and your car is clean you will find bare services. Just keep asking politely for a BJ without a condom, if they say yes then pick them up and after you are parking for a bit ask how much more for everything and 9 times out of 10 you will get BBFS. Then take their number and boom you have a connection. Plus most of them will be way better looking then some of the girls you are talking about here and cheaper. I actually have met two of the girls you mention here out streetwalking and the whole thing was cheaper than allegedly quoted on here.

Thank me later.

[QUOTE=MrMyke;3957545]You guys put a lot of effort into this.

You can cruise any of the typical streetwalker tracks and the girls out are the same girls that are advertising and as long as your are polite, clean and your car is clean you will find bare services. Just keep asking politely for a BJ without a condom, if they say yes then pick them up and after you are parking for a bit ask how much more for everything and 9 times out of 10 you will get BBFS. Then take their number and boom you have a connection. Plus most of them will be way better looking then some of the girls you are talking about here and cheaper. I actually have met two of the girls you mention here out streetwalking and the whole thing was cheaper than allegedly quoted on here.

Thank me later.[/QUOTE]LA streetwalkers are the same ones advertising?

LMAO, yeah okay buddy.

You must be new around here.

[QUOTE=MrMyke;3957545]You guys put a lot of effort into this.

You can cruise any of the typical streetwalker tracks and the girls out are the same girls that are advertising and as long as your are polite, clean and your car is clean you will find bare services. Just keep asking politely for a BJ without a condom, if they say yes then pick them up and after you are parking for a bit ask how much more for everything and 9 times out of 10 you will get BBFS. Then take their number and boom you have a connection. Plus most of them will be way better looking then some of the girls you are talking about here and cheaper. I actually have met two of the girls you mention here out streetwalking and the whole thing was cheaper than allegedly quoted on here.

Thank me later.[/QUOTE]Yeah they do offer BBFS but let's be honest here the quality of girls in the SW scene is pretty low. I mean I guess it depends upon what you're into, but if you're like myself looking for a skinny Asian Latino or Caucasian. You're not going to find much on the streets. Most of the girls I see in the SW scene black and curvy, not quite my taste.

Hi everyone! Recent transplant to LA.

Excited to find out the bb scene here. I have always been told LA has this very active group. Looking for good women here. Would appreciate any PMs to get me started. I have a solid contact in Boston for BBFS as well (she doesn't advertise nor explicitly discuss this during appointment).

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;3957579]LA streetwalkers are the same ones advertising?

LMAO, yeah okay buddy.

You must be new around here.[/QUOTE]It's true. Obviously not all of them but if you ask a many of them have ads. Just search the phone number if you get them.

That why we need to get used to Bare Back Full Service doesn't mean bare dick inside a pussy. It only mean litterally your back and provider back are bare, no clothes on. Lmao.

[QUOTE=HookerHunter;3957539]Even with all those terms I'd have to ask:

Wouldn't GFE be without a rubber in reality?

And PSE are we talking "van nuys" pse? (Like it seems all those porns are covered these days) or German PSE? (Since all those seem to be full on BB).

Yeah I like to stir the pot a lot LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonaldDraper;3955648]Can you PM her number? I wrote to her on HX, but she hasn't responded.[/QUOTE]Please to me to, would love to test her out.

For street walker BBFS is brave, taking their clothes of to reveal full bare back inside John car is brave for street walker. Most of there will BDFS thou for extra money. (BDFS = Bare Dick Full Service).

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;3957675]Yeah they do offer BBFS but let's be honest here the quality of girls in the SW scene is pretty low. I mean I guess it depends upon what you're into, but if you're like myself looking for a skinny Asian Latino or Caucasian. You're not going to find much on the streets. Most of the girls I see in the SW scene black and curvy, not quite my taste.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;3949319]She is now Juicy. Chocolate on hx.[/QUOTE]She posts on privatedelights too under the same name.

Anyone mind sending digits?

Confirmed BB provider via HX MSG. Quoted me 5. Fifty. A little to high for me so I did not take it. But who ever is willing to pay that, enjoy!

[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/ShyLily[/URL]

Anyone saw her? Is she good or BBFS?

[QUOTE=Thor1212;3958834]Anyone mind sending digits?[/QUOTE]What a waste of time with her. She asked me my real name, age and race by PM. Looks like she is not interested in European, 50'sh year old guys like me. First time I am refused based on my race and age, unbelievable!

[QUOTE=Mddm1;3960965]Confirmed BB provider via HX MSG. Quoted me 5. Fifty. A little to high for me so I did not take it. But who ever is willing to pay that, enjoy!

[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/ShyLily[/URL][/QUOTE]I've tried to meet up with this one already several times. She's rarely on and hard to get a hold of. Runs with StevieTrixx. Stevie's probably a lot easier to get a hold of. Not sure if she's BBFS too. Most likely is.

[QUOTE=MrSweat69;3961643]What a waste of time with her. She asked me my real name, age and race by PM. Looks like she is not interested in European, 50'sh year old guys like me. First time I am refused based on my race and age, unbelievable![/QUOTE]Now you see how black guys feel when it comes to 10% of the girls on HX.

Hi all,

Found this one, claims creampies and greek, haven't tried her out myself but thought I'd share.

[URL]https://cityxguide.com/escorts/azzfetish-lovers-no-joking-you-ask-for-anything-i-will-do-anything__1537814011-12765127/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ppbluesea21;3961071]Anyone saw her? Is she good or BBFS?[/QUOTE]Don't do it. Don't try it. She will put you on blast for asking. She's also not worth it. She's got some stank down there. Hairy pits. Pass.

[QUOTE=MrSweat69;3961643]What a waste of time with her. She asked me my real name, age and race by PM. Looks like she is not interested in European, 50'sh year old guys like me. First time I am refused based on my race and age, unbelievable![/QUOTE]No it's not just you, she pretty much did exactly the same thing to me. Just harvested a bunch of my info and gave me very vague answers when I asked her when we could book. Then when the time comes she changes her mind and says no thanks. Then I had contacted her again and then she did exactly the same thing twice. It's just a game player. I mean sure maybe someone could get lucky enough to actually get her to go through with the booking, but let's be honest here look at those pictures. Not worth jumping through hoops for.