Massage Parlor Reports

Your Highness, I respect your opinion, but I think you are looking throught rose colored glasses a bit when it come to Fantasy. I have seen the reviews and the posts and I can sift through the crap and fluff. The girls at fantasy might be younger, but I belive they don't give a perfict massage every time. I can belive that a few people did not feel that the massage they got was worth the extra money. I also can belive that people might have gotten into an argument over the price diffrence between fantasy and the other spa's in town. You don't go to Morton's and expect to get a hamburger and if you do you don't expect to pay the same price as a big mac. At the same time Fantasy is not a class above any other spa in town. From all the reviews except yours it seems like its the same or only slightly better then any of the other popular spa's. If I am wrong and the rest of you out there love the service at fantasy please post more about it. I am sick of hearing about it from only Vamp. We get it already you are in love with Fantasy. I leave you with a song, please remember the fist verse and take off the shades.

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I'm a longtime strip club visitor, who has generally fared pretty well in such places. Nonetheless, I'm considering branching out and trying either an escort or one of Warren's massage parlors. I've been trolling the escort reviews and massage parlor reviews on this site for several months now, but haven't seen any comments comparing the relative experiences of retaining an escort as opposed to visiting an AMP. For those of you have experienced both, would you comment-publicly, or via a pm-about the advantages and risks of the AMP (it seems like a "sure thing" with 24 hour service; but these places are targets for LEO) and the escort (selection is sketchy; but reviewed providers are maybe safer?). I'd appreciate any advice, as I'm ready to take the plunge and want to have a safe and satisfying first time.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Vampireweekend;1263289]LOL. I don't know what I can do. I'm not the owner. But I will put in a word or two for you Hdrk55. What is my compensation if I make it happen?[/QUOTE]My free ride card at Sun is all yours LOL.

[QUOTE=Vampireweekend;1263289]LOL. I don't know what I can do. I'm not the owner. But I will put in a word or two for you Hdrk55. What is my compensation if I make it happen?[/QUOTE]Everyone's (except Jeep's) eternal gratitude and respect.

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[QUOTE=Vampireweekend; 1263175]And your massage hurt Ehebuch? That's because it was a real massage not like the lame softies at Tokyo that you've frequented lately. Or even at any of the other Korean Spas except for Ocean Spa because quite frankly Sophia's service and massage is top quality and I tie her with Fantacy in both areas. And if it was hurting then why didn't you communicate it to either Ada or Jenny? They pretty much can comprehend what you're saying because both speak and understand English very well.

And then you tried to hardball her for a lower rate when you know from reading all the reviews on both boards that it's $140 to $150. $120 might be for Tokyo and $100 might be for SUN Spa but it doesn't fly at Fantacy period. So this whole bullshit about the going standard of either $100 or $120 is just bullshit. In fact, it is my contention that it actually breeds contempment among the spa workers towards you guys considering the rumors about certain Korean Spas taking half of the amount of the tips you give them for the house (among other fees they charge for food). And copping attitudes? I've gotten more attitudes copped at the Korean Spas and not once at Fantacy where they have always aimed to please.

Oh yeah, and Sarah and or Ruby who are supposedly in their 20's are actually in their 30's guys. Same with SUN Nana or VIP Tina. While the rest of the women are in their late 30's. 40's and even 50's. You know how make up and the bolt ons can confuse you guys whereas most of the women at Fantacy are in their late teens or early 20's. The Korean Spas are more "professional" and battle weary than the girls at Fantacy who are more fresh and new. There are no veterans there. No professionals and they are trained to give the best, complete, and most thorough massage that you can get in the area. Hands down. Again the only person or Spa that comes close is Sophia at Ocean Spa and she is the one person that knows customer service and entertainment. Right Flower Garden?

So go guys. Have fun with your value meals. I'm going to enjoy my full course meal with a large serving of desert in my deluxe apartment in the sky. And in the words of my Blues Brothers,"What do you want for nuthing. RUBBER BISCUITS!"[/QUOTE]VW, I've had real massages from REAL masseuses, and never have I been in pain. I don't normally have a 120 lb woman standing on my kidneys, or twisting my triceps forcefully and painfully. It was a rough massage, not relaxing or pleasant. I was having a fine time with Jenny until Ada joined in. Call it machismo for not speaking up in a situation where I had already drawn a line in the sand, and now I am nude and in the hands of what I felt was someone hostile to my continued presence. In my mind, best just to get through it and be done.

As for price, maybe if I had the grand-per-week that you seem to drop at spas, then I might not be in the mood to negotiate, but hey it's my money, and I am willing and able to do so. I don't need a shill to tell me what I'm willing to pay for service or the quality therin. Supply and demand dictates price, and for all the "quality" that you spout, I certainly didn't find it. For all that you are now complaining about Sun, it was your spot for the longest time and you sung the praises just as loud and long as you are now doing for Fantacy. I've been to many of the spas, and I've hardly EVER had a problem with timing, rushed service or upselling. The biggest problem I usually have is having to wait for a girl if I unfortunately pick a bad time to show up. I've never gotten the 3rd degree from any Mamasan or masseuse like I did yesterday. I've had some great GFE experiences at the Korean spas, and while I've had bad service occasionally, I've had good service mostly. Check my reports, you can see.

I don't have anything inherently against Fantacy. I tried it, and had a bad time, thus my report.

Bottom Line:

1) The place is a dump, since you seem to have an in with them, tell them to spend their extra cash on some paint and a contractor,

2) Service was rude and abysmal, we didn't come to an accord on prices and I had an unpleasant experience.

3) They charge more for door fee and tip and from a window-shopping aspect, it wasn't worth the price of jumping in the pool.

We're here on this board to relate such things, not defend our favorite spas. Quit sucking up to the spa owners here on this board and post some honest reports.

Ain't no way I'm going to be video'd by some chinaslut in my hour of need. Ming Dynasty for takeout if that the case, not going to get no mace.

I like both Fantascy and Sun. Sun at the new place is cleaner, sauna is better and they have 2 shower room. They ladys at the Sun are older and been working for a while.

At fantascy girls are younger some of them don. T know what to do at the beginning but get better. Kelly is great a 8 in look. Tammy give more service than Kelly. I have not get 4 hands massage the last few time. And I'll keep going to both place.

Is Ruby from Sun is working at Tokyo?

[QUOTE=Ehebruch; 1263380]VW, I've had real massages from REAL masseuses, and never have I been in pain. I don't normally have a 120 lb woman standing on my kidneys, or twisting my triceps forcefully and painfully. It was a rough massage, not relaxing or pleasant. I was having a fine time with Jenny until Ada joined in. Call it machismo for not speaking up in a situation where I had already drawn a line in the sand, and now I am nude and in the hands of what I felt was someone hostile to my continued presence. In my mind, best just to get through it and be done.

As for price, maybe if I had the grand-per-week that you seem to drop at spas, then I might not be in the mood to negotiate, but hey it's my money, and I am willing and able to do so. I don't need a shill to tell me what I'm willing to pay for service or the quality therin. Supply and demand dictates price, and for all the "quality" that you spout, I certainly didn't find it. For all that you are now complaining about Sun, it was your spot for the longest time and you sung the praises just as loud and long as you are now doing for Fantacy. I've been to many of the spas, and I've hardly EVER had a problem with timing, rushed service or upselling. The biggest problem I usually have is having to wait for a girl if I unfortunately pick a bad time to show up. I've never gotten the 3rd degree from any Mamasan or masseuse like I did yesterday. I've had some great GFE experiences at the Korean spas, and while I've had bad service occasionally, I've had good service mostly. Check my reports, you can see.

I don't have anything inherently against Fantacy. I tried it, and had a bad time, thus my report.

Bottom Line:

1) The place is a dump, since you seem to have an in with them, tell them to spend their extra cash on some paint and a contractor,

2) Service was rude and abysmal, we didn't come to an accord on prices and I had an unpleasant experience.

3) They charge more for door fee and tip and from a window-shopping aspect, it wasn't worth the price of jumping in the pool.

We're here on this board to relate such things, not defend our favorite spas. Quit sucking up to the spa owners here on this board and post some honest reports.[/QUOTE]Bottom line you didn't speak up and you pretty much brought the experience on yourself. I won't call it machisho I would call it mashocism. Again you should have spoken up but you didn't. You drew the line in the sand and they didn't cross it and it pissed you off. If you have read the reviews you would have know what to expect but you, you decided to play hardball. So you had a bad time because you brought it onto yourself.

As for my honesty, I've been pretty honest on this and other boards. I've spelled it out many times and explained why I've stated what I've stated. If you really spend the time reading my reviews you would see that.

I'm sorry if my spending habits offends you but I'm just as frugal with my money no matter how much I have dropped at the spas. And believe me I've gotten my share of discounts and even free services as much as I've spent my money at these spas. I've even been asked to come in and train some of your favorite providers in the area. And I'm going to let you on a little secret here, I don't get any discounts or freebies at Fantacy that I've gotten from several spas in the area. And I can stand by what I've posted because I have put my money where my mouth is. As for me sucking up the spa owners I doubt that, what I do is show respect and that is why I have I've gotten along with most of the mamasams, owners, and spa workers in the area. It's just plain respect. And if you noticed in my review I also spoke highly of Sophia at Ocean Spa whom I feel is one of the best provider and friend in the area along with those at Fantacy Spa.

And I think some on this board knows my reasons for my current relationship with SUN spa. My relationship with my mama and auntie are a bit strained right now for various reasons and situations in the close past. Plus a current circulating rumor that's going to bite them on their ass with the local authorities if they are not careful. All I'm going to say is that Karma is a *****.

You're right, supply and demand dictates price but so does quality. But are you going to hardball and hagal over price at Saks or Nordstrom and expect the same results that you would at maybe a flea market and garage sale? I doubt it. You would probably be escorted out and just plain laughed at. Again we both disagree so be it. You stay on the West side and I'll spend mine on the East side and if we ever cross paths in Warren I'll buy you a hot dog and chili cheese fries at the Hot Dog Shoppe.

[QUOTE=Vampireweekend;1263471]. I'll buy you a hot dog and chili cheese fries at the Hot Dog Shoppe.[/QUOTE]You guys are neglecting another renowned "eating establishment" in Warren. Sunrise Pizza. It's really amazing and I miss since I moved away. Try it. It's on Market Street in downtown (across the street from one of the really old asian spas, but I forget its name).

IMHO, the Hot Dog Shoppe has slipped in quality a little bit the past decade or so. They used to actually have some meat in their chili sauce. Now its mostly just sauce, but still incredible.

Peace, JM

[QUOTE=John Marigold; 1263646]You guys are neglecting another renowned "eating establishment" in Warren. Sunrise Pizza. It's really amazing and I miss since I moved away. Try it. It's on Market Street in downtown (across the street from one of the really old asian spas, but I forget its name).

IMHO, the Hot Dog Shoppe has slipped in quality a little bit the past decade or so. They used to actually have some meat in their chili sauce. Now its mostly just sauce, but still incredible.

Peace, JM[/QUOTE]I'll check out Sunrise Pizza next time. I bet it's across from Sunny Health Spa but I'll have to be careful since the news reporters seem to like to videotape outside there. I don't want to end up on the nighttime news. Have you ever checked out Dave Grohl Alley (Foo Fighters and Nirvana) by Burger King near Main and Market? I only wished they have a tribute to Glass Harp but I think they're really considered out of Youngstown. I do like the tribute to Neil Armstrong on Parkman too.

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Yes, it is indeed across from Sunny's spa. I think it used to be called Oriental Spa now that I think about it. I have to admit that I didn't really like Sunrise Pizza the first time I tried it, but it really, really grew on me. I have heard that many people who have moved out of Warren have Sunrise send them frozen pizzas. I may have to try that sometime. No, I haven't checked out Dave Grohl Alley; never heard of it, but I don't live in Warren any longer. I just visit a couple times a year. Yes, Glass Harp (Phil Keaggy's old band) had some roots in Youngstown. BTW, you guys are soooo damn lucky to have a place like Fantacy Spa. It is a true treasure! Treat those girls special (as I know Vampire does). Peace, JM.

[QUOTE=Vampireweekend; 1263690]I'll check out Sunrise Pizza next time. I bet it's across from Sunny Health Spa but I'll have to be careful since the news reporters seem to like to videotape outside there. I don't want to end up on the nighttime news. Have you ever checked out Dave Grohl Alley (Foo Fighters and Nirvana) by Burger King near Main and Market? I only wished they have a tribute to Glass Harp but I think they're really considered out of Youngstown. I do like the tribute to Neil Armstrong on Parkman too.

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[QUOTE=John Marigold;1263754]Yes, it is indeed across from Sunny's spa. I think it used to be called Oriental Spa now that I think about it. I have to admit that I didn't really like Sunrise Pizza the first time I tried it, but it really, really grew on me. I have heard that many people who have moved out of Warren have Sunrise send them frozen pizzas. I may have to try that sometime. No, I haven't checked out Dave Grohl Alley; never heard of it, but I don't live in Warren any longer. I just visit a couple times a year. Yes, Glass Harp (Phil Keaggy's old band) had some roots in Youngstown. BTW, you guys are soooo damn lucky to have a place like Fantacy Spa. It is a true treasure! Treat those girls special (as I know Vampire does). Peace, JM.[/QUOTE]A few years ago I was at a family gathering and met the wife of a prominent orthodontist, she was originally from Warren. As soon as I could wedge it into the conversation I brought up the Hot Dog Shoppe and how Mayberryesque it was. The first time I was there I saw businessmen coming in wearing rumpled wool trousers, button down no-iron Lands end shirts and a tie. They would sit down say Hello, to the waitress and 2 minutes later they would have their food. Never ordered just said Hello, there's not many places like that left.

Second the Orthodontists wife said that you absolutely have to try Sunrise Pizza (its the best! Long story short I went, it wasn't what I like. Sort of a thick spongy crust with a herbed tomato pizza sauce. I wouldn't go back. Maybe they have good sandwiches or other, although it is a hopping place with a lot of personality. If you go sit at the bar.

Finally went to Fantacy the other day met Mickey, Ada joined in the 4 hand massage. They twisted and turned me till I was worn out it was as close as your ever going to get to a professional massage. After Ada gave me the hand speak on the tip she said 15$ gave her 16$. You get what you pay for and I did. When I left someone rang the doorbell Ada told them to get back in their car until the customer comes out (me). I looked at the dude in the SUV he was as big as a fucking house. I mean he was John Candy / John Goodman and some other fat bastards rolled into one. His belly was so big its hitting the steering wheel. I felt bad for the Fantacy employee that had to handle this fat fuck. I walked around the back of his car on the way to mine. His plates said Mississippi. Was he here for something other than the spas? I don't know but wow I prayed little Mickey wouldn't be under that dude.

I'm thinking of taking a trip out to Warren from pittsburgh soon. I've always wanted to have a slip and slide ts, but none of the spas in Pittsburgh ever offered them. Which spa would be my best bet to experience this? I'm thinking Sun? I did try out Ocean back in March, but the girl I had (can't remember her name) didn't offer that.

Thanks for any suggestions, fellow spa lovers.

Sophia at Ocean is very pretty very sexy and very nice. Well worth a visit. She kinda overdid the GFE talk but she still ranks up top with me.

[QUOTE=Pinetree Man; 1263862]I'm thinking of taking a trip out to Warren from pittsburgh soon. I've always wanted to have a slip and slide ts, but none of the spas in Pittsburgh ever offered them. Which spa would be my best bet to experience this? I'm thinking Sun? I did try out Ocean back in March, but the girl I had (can't remember her name) didn't offer that.

Thanks for any suggestions, fellow spa lovers.[/QUOTE]Pinetree if you want a slip and slide, you have a few options, All the girls at the sun do it (its on of there trademarks) Sophia at Ocean does a great slip N slide, and there are a few former Sun employees at scarterd spas that still do them. Ruby at toyko. If I were to pick I would eather go with Sophia at Ocean or Sun.