Sugar bowl sites and sugar babies

[QUOTE=ChrisHansen92;5579016]More subtle changes to the site. All not in our favor. Wade and CO. Just keep thinking of ways to discourage guys from joining as much. You can't report online only (that is now acceptable) and also noticed they removed the "friends with benefits" tag and replaced it with just friends. At least on WYP they kept discrete affairs'. Also now when a girl views your profile it will display how many gift's you have sent from your profile. At least they give you the option (for now) to turn that off and not be visible. It really is harder and harder to justify 100 bucks a month for this site. If they want to make this site more vanilla and mainstream aka legit to avoid FOSTA stepping in they will need to change their fee's. I find myself only paying 3-4 times a year and only return when I need to restock (which is also becoming less and less fruitful as time passes and they keep changing the site).[/QUOTE]Non-paid used to be able to send messages but just not 'see' the replies, photo unlock requests meant you could follow up with a message to contact thru email (coded), now all contact is cut off without the 100 bills.

[QUOTE=Henry777;5579343]Also, she says on seeking she has no children. Yet from both descriptions she definitely has some baby damage!!

My experience in business if they say HonestANYTHINGELSE then they are not honest. I mean why would you need to say that?[/QUOTE]That is one of the sage pieces of wisdom from my HR days. Anyone who tells you they are honest, isn't.

Does it seem like over half the girls on SA are scammers now? 5 in a row have went to text message only to find out they want to meet but I need to send gas money. I can tell early in the conversation that they are not really from around here. So damn annoying. I remember the good ole days (7 years ago) that everyone on there was looking for an actual meet up.

Hey fellow travelers. I'll be in St Louis in a couple weeks and would love to connect with some SA girls that don't mind having their numbers shared. PM me if you can. I'm no on SA atm but have a couple solid leads if any of you come to Philly. I just can't deal with the junkies and lowlifes that are on Skip etc and I'm willing to shell out for talent. 18-28 preferred that aren't BBWs. Thanks in advance.

I finally decided to join and go premium on Seeking a few days ago. I've read through quite a bit of this thread and talked with others who have used the site and tried to follow what's been reported with very little success.

With each one, I started my message with a sincere compliment about something that drew me to their profile. I didn't pour it on or say anything creepy or sexual. Usually just something like "you've got a beautiful smile" or "you have really nice eyes. " Then I would ask what kind of arrangement they were looking for if their ad wasn't clear or if they were more forward in their ad I would say I was looking for something similar and would love to talk some more about an arrangement.

So one regular from Belleville who I see online a lot wrote back pretty quickly but only told me she wanted something casual because she didn't have a lot of time. Also said she wasn't looking to travel. No problem. I asked if she hosted. No. So I asked if she was open to meeting less frequently since I would be driving to her and she can't host. She read the message and then ghosted.

I heard back from one 25 year old from St. Louis who said she could meet me in the middle somewhere. Her ad was a little less explicit so I asked when she was open to meeting. Over an hour passed and she suddenly said that night. I asked about meeting another night. She didn't read that message until the next day and then didn't reply.

It never said either of them looked at my profile, although I know they could have turned that setting on so I wouldn't know if they had.

Another one in Evansville who has been reported GTG by at least two others didn't even log in until today. She looked at my profile but never read my message.

Another one I know is GTG in my town has logged in a couple of times but not looked at my message. I got favorited by one who was mentioned here recently that was looking for a large donation, but I didn't bother messaging her as I wasn't interested.

None of the other messages I sent got opened either, although it looks like most of them haven't even logged in for a while. I've tried to stick to profiles that have been up at least a few months with regular logins. I also stick to over 20 and those that have NSA on their profile.

I guess what I'm wondering is, is this the typical experience for most of you? I'm 37, so I'm a little younger than a lot of guys on there I guess, but I have decent income and net worth and only message profiles that are looking for my age range and needs. I filled out a little bit of the about me section and what I'm looking for but left it pretty simple.

Outside of sending gifts or adding a public picture, are there any other suggestions for getting messages read? Do you fill out your profile at all? I didn't want to go straight to asking for a number and haven't asked to see private photos, and so far I haven't been blocked by any of them. Am I being too laid back maybe? Kind of curious because I figured I'd at least get hit by a scammer or two by now.

[QUOTE=Tibby92;5580615]I finally decided to join and go premium on Seeking a few days ago. I've read through quite a bit of this thread and talked with others who have used the site and tried to follow what's been reported with very little success.

With each one, I started my message with a sincere compliment about something that drew me to their profile. I didn't pour it on or say anything creepy or sexual. Usually just something like "you've got a beautiful smile" or "you have really nice eyes. " Then I would ask what kind of arrangement they were looking for if their ad wasn't clear or if they were more forward in their ad I would say I was looking for something similar and would love to talk some more about an arrangement.

So one regular from Belleville who I see online a lot wrote back pretty quickly but only told me she wanted something casual because she didn't have a lot of time. Also said she wasn't looking to travel. No problem. I asked if she hosted. No. So I asked if she was open to meeting less frequently since I would be driving to her and she can't host. She read the message and then ghosted.

I heard back from one 25 year old from St. Louis who said she could meet me in the middle somewhere. Her ad was a little less explicit so I asked when she was open to meeting. Over an hour passed and she suddenly said that night. I asked about meeting another night. She didn't read that message until the next day and then didn't reply.

It never said either of them looked at my profile, although I know they could have turned that setting on so I wouldn't know if they had.

Another one in Evansville who has been reported GTG by at least two others didn't even log in until today. She looked at my profile but never read my message.

Another one I know is GTG in my town has logged in a couple of times but not looked at my message. I got favorited by one who was mentioned here recently that was looking for a large donation, but I didn't bother messaging her as I wasn't interested.

None of the other messages I sent got opened either, although it looks like most of them haven't even logged in for a while. I've tried to stick to profiles that have been up at least a few months with regular logins. I also stick to over 20 and those that have NSA on their profile.

I guess what I'm wondering is, is this the typical experience for most of you? I'm 37, so I'm a little younger than a lot of guys on there I guess, but I have decent income and net worth and only message profiles that are looking for my age range and needs. I filled out a little bit of the about me section and what I'm looking for but left it pretty simple.

Outside of sending gifts or adding a public picture, are there any other suggestions for getting messages read? Do you fill out your profile at all? I didn't want to go straight to asking for a number and haven't asked to see private photos, and so far I haven't been blocked by any of them. Am I being too laid back maybe? Kind of curious because I figured I'd at least get hit by a scammer or two by now.[/QUOTE]Here are a few rules of thumb I have seen (others chime in):

1) If they say they have little time, they just want to make some money and are DTF. So you can quickly hone in on meeting and allowance. In this case, you arrange a M&P (Meet and Play). Play is optional depending on the meeting and you let the girl know that upfront. Most are okay with that because it is a lot of effort to get dressed up, makeup, nails perfected, travel to meeting place. So for them (especially if they have little time), they want to get some bills paid quickly.

2) If they have 2 or more children, they are busy and are pretty much DTF. They do not have much time, have to get a sitter often or talk their mother or someone else to cover and you can get down to business pretty quickly.

3) First thing you need to find out is if they have experience being a SB. If no, well you are in for a lot of time. They better be worth it.

4) If 18 or 19, expect 1-2 no shows because they are putting in the fishing line to feel the tug, but they are not ready for the catch. They bolt. In these cases, YOU MUST have a conversation on the phone once or TWICE to establish a relationship. Otherwise, guaranteed no show. Make the first date kind of funnish, save all business talk for when you actually get together.

5) If they favorite you, then you will get a response back from them. However, they may be scammers also. These are a double edge sword.

6) Need to have conversations with 8-10 for every one that will turn to a real possibility. Don't take it personally. It is a numbers game.

7) If they want to meet late at night, they are scammers. They send you pictures / videos. Get you all worked up. Then say they are coming. Even get your address for their GPS. And then.

BAM. Something happens. Auto accident, need gas, sitter money, whatever. You MUST get them on the phone or do a custom photo to validate them otherwise assume they are scammers. Most scammers are on the site for less than a month.

The girls that need money, they join. Their lives are chaotic, they may be working several jobs and then a crisis happens. So expect about 50-60% to just drop off for no specific reason. Do not take it personally.

You have to be patient. Something I've found is when they are from Missouri, Missouri. They'll tell you they are living with grandma, aunt, etc and can come into town, send you pictures and sound gtg but then will ask for some gas money.

[QUOTE=Tibby92;5580615]I finally decided to join and go premium on Seeking a few days ago. I've read through quite a bit of this thread and talked with others who have used the site and tried to follow what's been reported with very little success.

With each one, I started my message with a sincere compliment about something that drew me to their profile. I didn't pour it on or say anything creepy or sexual. Usually just something like "you've got a beautiful smile" or "you have really nice eyes. " Then I would ask what kind of arrangement they were looking for if their ad wasn't clear or if they were more forward in their ad I would say I was looking for something similar and would love to talk some more about an arrangement.

So one regular from Belleville who I see online a lot wrote back pretty quickly but only told me she wanted something casual because she didn't have a lot of time. Also said she wasn't looking to travel. No problem. I asked if she hosted. No. So I asked if she was open to meeting less frequently since I would be driving to her and she can't host. She read the message and then ghosted.

I heard back from one 25 year old from St. Louis who said she could meet me in the middle somewhere. Her ad was a little less explicit so I asked when she was open to meeting. Over an hour passed and she suddenly said that night. I asked about meeting another night. She didn't read that message until the next day and then didn't reply.

It never said either of them looked at my profile, although I know they could have turned that setting on so I wouldn't know if they had.

Another one in Evansville who has been reported GTG by at least two others didn't even log in until today. She looked at my profile but never read my message.

Another one I know is GTG in my town has logged in a couple of times but not looked at my message. I got favorited by one who was mentioned here recently that was looking for a large donation, but I didn't bother messaging her as I wasn't interested.

None of the other messages I sent got opened either, although it looks like most of them haven't even logged in for a while. I've tried to stick to profiles that have been up at least a few months with regular logins. I also stick to over 20 and those that have NSA on their profile.

I guess what I'm wondering is, is this the typical experience for most of you? I'm 37, so I'm a little younger than a lot of guys on there I guess, but I have decent income and net worth and only message profiles that are looking for my age range and needs. I filled out a little bit of the about me section and what I'm looking for but left it pretty simple.

Outside of sending gifts or adding a public picture, are there any other suggestions for getting messages read? Do you fill out your profile at all? I didn't want to go straight to asking for a number and haven't asked to see private photos, and so far I haven't been blocked by any of them. Am I being too laid back maybe? Kind of curious because I figured I'd at least get hit by a scammer or two by now.[/QUOTE]

Kinda sad to see that she is back; I remember seeing her first profile back in the days with shitty photos LOL. I advised her to take better photos for higher visibility and she takes a lot if photo still haha. She dropped off from SA scene quite a while and I thought she is gobe for good.

She is, I am sure that everybody knows at this point, g2 g. I stopped seeing her when she became no longer UTR.

Wanted to share what I know with why'all. (Which isn't much because covid stopped all activities of mine).

[QUOTE=ChrisHansen92;5546784]If I read your report right. You paid her 200 cash to leave?[/QUOTE]I forgot $$ us a meaning here. No. I gave her enough to get her back home.

Some easy some hard and took work. All of these GTG if you buy a membership, contact them, work your best game and try to crack their code. Every guy reading this has the same opportunity to pay the extortion fee, contact them and let them screen you and meet you before they decide for themselves if they will sell their bodies to you as I did. That mean's you contact them on the site and do not PM me for a free hand out. They don't want their information passed around. I am not their pimp. Only a customer. Some listed as platonic only. Fuck that. I always cast a wide net and try anyway.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/38d8bc4a-6c97-4e85-9b8b-7ed6161b3d39[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c26c7ad8-7551-4c55-a25a-7fb706e8530f[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2487a2c6-5462-4fa9-a04b-0fb2ac782dff[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/39a2b2e3-0f44-4e8d-b989-97c64119a6b7[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f112f6e-b5e6-41ed-94c3-e06a9a4f29db[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75f2f8af-b726-4887-9ffd-5e90d6bd2f56[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/752d970e-ffcb-4a60-90f7-8bbefdc48829[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4caf8aa3-5bcc-47a5-83a6-9d769a495cd7[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a6749789-a330-4c10-8b7d-fc3052b3550f[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3c6528a4-dd82-4730-9ce7-0fc9c576ae28[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisHansen92;5588099]Some easy some hard and took work. All of these GTG if you buy a membership, contact them, work your best game and try to crack their code. Every guy reading this has the same opportunity to pay the extortion fee, contact them and let them screen you and meet you before they decide for themselves if they will sell their bodies to you as I did. That mean's you contact them on the site and do not PM me for a free hand out. They don't want their information passed around. I am not their pimp. Only a customer. Some listed as platonic only. Fuck that. I always cast a wide net and try anyway.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/38d8bc4a-6c97-4e85-9b8b-7ed6161b3d39[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c26c7ad8-7551-4c55-a25a-7fb706e8530f[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2487a2c6-5462-4fa9-a04b-0fb2ac782dff[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/39a2b2e3-0f44-4e8d-b989-97c64119a6b7[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f112f6e-b5e6-41ed-94c3-e06a9a4f29db[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75f2f8af-b726-4887-9ffd-5e90d6bd2f56[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/752d970e-ffcb-4a60-90f7-8bbefdc48829[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4caf8aa3-5bcc-47a5-83a6-9d769a495cd7[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a6749789-a330-4c10-8b7d-fc3052b3550f[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3c6528a4-dd82-4730-9ce7-0fc9c576ae28[/URL][/QUOTE]Busy guy, do you use an excel spreadsheet to keep track of all these women? One thing I appreciate is all but one has been active on the site in the last 5 days. Many posts I see are about girls that are not active in the last month, or their profile has been deleted. Thanks for sharing.

What do why'all do to add photos on your SA acct? Trying not to sharing my real photos LOL.

I only share what I'm not seeing anymore (for one reason or another). I actually think it's not a bad idea to share ones that have not been active recently because many times these girls return and get on or make a new profile for one reason or another. For example HotBox has had about 6 profiles in the many years she has been on there. It helps most of us when we see them again active we know it's a pretty sure thing. I could add dozens that have not been active 6 months or more yet I'm certain many will return sooner or later. Problem is good / bad Seeking removes profiles and any messages you have over 6 months old now. They are not visible again unless that profile logs in again.

[QUOTE=MiningForGold;5589216]Busy guy, do you use an excel spreadsheet to keep track of all these women? One thing I appreciate is all but one has been active on the site in the last 5 days. Many posts I see are about girls that are not active in the last month, or their profile has been deleted. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoldMiner;5586037]Kinda sad to see that she is back; I remember seeing her first profile back in the days with shitty photos LOL. I advised her to take better photos for higher visibility and she takes a lot if photo still haha. She dropped off from SA scene quite a while and I thought she is gobe for good.

She is, I am sure that everybody knows at this point, g2 g. I stopped seeing her when she became no longer UTR.

Wanted to share what I know with why'all. (Which isn't much because covid stopped all activities of mine).[/QUOTE]What's the damage to see her? She quoted me something ridiculous like $700 plus said she can't host.

[QUOTE=BukkakeLuvr;5589812]What's the damage to see her? She quoted me something ridiculous like $700 plus said she can't host.[/QUOTE]Much less back in the days. She will come down I think.