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[QUOTE=Yragyrag;4017690]I'm a retired Marine (1989).

I see you say you retired "[I]from the military[/I]". That's what most people say when they're not particularly proud of their service. In another post, you outed yourself as a squid.

While I agree with your last three paragraphs, [B][i]THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE[/i][/B] anyway!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs[/URL][/QUOTE]Ha. Most Marines I know would have said "I'm a former Marine. Retired".

And no. Not embarrassed about my service. It's just a part of my life that's behind me. The things I learned served me well in the civilian world though.

Thank [b]you [/b]for your service. [b]Sincerely[/b]. It only matters when a vet says it to me.

Now can I go back to making fun of jarheads? :)

[QUOTE=RogerOver;4018246]Ha. Most Marines I know would have said "I'm a former Marine. Retired".

And no. Not embarrassed about my service. It's just a part of my life that's behind me. The things I learned served me well in the civilian world though.

Thank [b]you [/b]for your service. [b]Sincerely[/b]. It only matters when a vet says it to me.

Now can I go back to making fun of jarheads? :)[/QUOTE]Never, never, never refer to myself as a "former Marine", and certainly not an "Ex-Marine".

Marines are Marines -- for life. Our title is earned, not given. And once we earn it, it is never taken or otherwise goes away.

Semper Fi!

[QUOTE=PurrFecttSwags;4017769]Really sad to hear some of you say you dislike when being told thank you for your service. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PurrFecttSwags;4017797]How many purple hearts do any of you have? [/QUOTE]You're proud of the service of your relatives -- we get it -- as you should be.

I believe everyone who served is proud of having done so, but being privately proud, and publically recognized are two different things. I bet even A2, who didn't seem to always enjoy his service, is still glad he served and wouldn't change a thing.

And it also has nothing to do with how many medals you have. We each signed a contract with Uncle Sam. That alone placed each of us as eligible to make the ultimate sacrifice. Everyone can't serve on the front line, and those serving behind the scenes are just as valuable as everyone else.

Acceptance of "[I]Thank you for your service[/I]" accolades from others is an individual choice, and there are good reasons why.

1. Many Vietnam vets hate it because they should have gotten it back then, but didn't. Instead, they got spat on, and called baby killers. So after going through those ordeals, today's "thank you's" ring hollow and hypocritical to them.

2. Many vets just feel that they were "[I]just doing their job[/I]". For example, I was often the subject of accolades that included promotions, awards, and acceptance for special programs. Often times I saw myself recognized for things that other and more-deserving individuals never got. But regardless, I often felt uncomfortable with any special recognition, because I always felt like I was just doing my job. Without trying to put words in his mouth, even RogerOver stated that he apparently thought of his time as "[I]a contract with the government[/I]" -- he had fulfilled his end, and they fulfilled theirs; no need for anything more.

3. And then there are probably others who feel, for whatever reason, they either didn't measure up or do anything special to rate a special "thank you".

And there are probably other good reasons that I've missed, but the point is that "acceptance" of your thank-you's is our personal choice - - WE served, so WE get to decide, but no matter our choice on that subject, rest assured we are ALL proud of our service.

I'm a Vietnam vet and also a retired vet, USAF 21 yrs. I was stationed at Ton Son Nhut AB with the 7th AF just outside of Saigon, RVN (Ho Chi Minh City today). I was a computer programmer in a unit that reported the air war to higher HQ. When I returned to a new assignment back in the states, I never experienced any of the hate that many other Vietnam vets did upon their return, probably because I was at a major military base. The "Thank you for your service" phrase that is so popular today was unheard of back then. I've always thought that the Vietnam War was unpopular because the general public didn't have anything to identify with as to why we were over there. There was no attack on our soil. Everyone just went about their daily business. Today, because of the attacks on our soil on September 11,2001, it's a different story. Our military men and women are treated very differently than they were during the Vietnam era. When I'm told "Thank you for your service", I just say "Thank You".

[QUOTE=RoadWarrior2K;4018598]I'm a Vietnam vet and also a retired vet, USAF 21 yrs. I was stationed at Ton Son Nhut AB with the 7th AF just outside of Saigon, RVN (Ho Chi Minh City today). I was a computer programmer in a unit that reported the air war to higher HQ. When I returned to a new assignment back in the states, I never experienced any of the hate that many other Vietnam vets did upon their return, probably because I was at a major military base. The "Thank you for your service" phrase that is so popular today was unheard of back then. I've always thought that the Vietnam War was unpopular because the general public didn't have anything to identify with as to why we were over there. There was no attack on our soil. Everyone just went about their daily business. Today, because of the attacks on our soil on September 11,2001, it's a different story. Our military men and women are treated very differently than they were during the Vietnam era. When I'm told "Thank you for your service", I just say "Thank You".[/QUOTE]What to thank all vets for their service regardless of the branch they served it. Alot of you have valid points related to this subject but the main thing is they served their country. ARMY CSM E9 30 yrs RETIRED.

[QUOTE=PurrFecttSwags;4018186]You are a squid not Airforce. I never said my grandpa carried the bomb. He only explained to my grandmother during his travels what his missions. I actually have all his postcards he wrote her during the war. How they smuggled rum from Puerto Rico along with other things. Go back to your pineapple under the see, I think sponge Bob queer pants is waiting for you.

Swags.[/QUOTE]Your grandfather wasn't in the Air Force during WWII either. The Air Force wasn't formed until 1947.

[QUOTE=RoadWarrior2K;4018598]I'm a Vietnam vet and also a retired vet, USAF 21 yrs. I was stationed at Ton Son Nhut AB with the 7th AF just outside of Saigon, RVN (Ho Chi Minh City today). I was a computer programmer in a unit that reported the air war to higher HQ. When I returned to a new assignment back in the states, I never experienced any of the hate that many other Vietnam vets did upon their return, probably because I was at a major military base. The "Thank you for your service" phrase that is so popular today was unheard of back then. I've always thought that the Vietnam War was unpopular because the general public didn't have anything to identify with as to why we were over there. There was no attack on our soil. Everyone just went about their daily business. Today, because of the attacks on our soil on September 11,2001, it's a different story. Our military men and women are treated very differently than they were during the Vietnam era. When I'm told "Thank you for your service", I just say "Thank You".[/QUOTE]9-11 created a personal touch with Americans that changed the way they view the military, and even where we drop them in for fighting. We don't seem to question as much since everything is lumped under "war on terror".

Interesting that If you're turning 18, you live in a country that's been in major conflicts your entire life.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;4018862]Your grandfather wasn't in the Air Force during WWII either. The Air Force wasn't formed until 1947.[/QUOTE]There are lots of people who don't understand the "Air Force" had no role in WWII and was then known as The US Army Air Forces until 1947.

Just saying.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4019023]There are lots of people who don't understand the "Air Force" had no role in WWII and was then known as The US Army Air Forces until 1947.

Just saying.

A2.[/QUOTE]I figured that's what she meant, but with every post getting nuttier and nuttier, I didn't want to assume.

This chick is [B]simply bat-shit crazy[/B]. If she wants to be super proud of her family heritage, she may want to actually learn some history so she's not spouting the equivalent of tall-tales told to her when she was a young-un.

The real bummer? She's probably a voter. LOL.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;4018862]Your grandfather wasn't in the Air Force during WWII either. The Air Force wasn't formed until 1947.[/QUOTE]You don't like "[I]feeble minded religious bullshit[/I]"? Well your average Jarhead like me can be just as feeble minded as the rest of them, and standby asshole, cause here comes the religious bullshit.

[B][red]JESUS H. CHRIST![/red][/B]

I just get her settled down, and you have to get her all riled up again.

You knew EXACTLY what she meant, but you had to be a real [B]ASSWIPE[/B].

I REALLY don't like sailors, but I'm usually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. However in YOUR case, it's obvious now to everyone that [B][i]the best part of you ran down your Mama's leg and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress[/i][/B]!

[QUOTE=RogerOver;4018864]9-11 created a personal touch with Americans that changed the way they view the military, and even where we drop them in for fighting. We don't seem to question as much since everything is lumped under "war on terror".

Interesting that If you're turning 18, you live in a country that's been in major conflicts your entire life.[/QUOTE]It may have touched the way many Americans view the military, but yet nothing has changed for some.

You have to remember it "has" been 17 years since 9/11, and so the younger generation is not as aware as those of us who lived it.

Plus, since the all volunteer military has been in force since 1973, many folks have never known anyone who served / serves in the military. It's refreshing to see folks like Swags pay homage to their family members who did serve.

There is a saying that always irks me: "[I]America is not at [b]war[/b], America is at the [b]mall[/b][/I]"!

I'm torn whether we should bring back the Draft?

On one hand, somebody has to take out the trash, and if there are people who "volunteer" to do it, why "assign" others to do it?

During Vietnam, the great majority of those who served were drafted, and so they did one tour of duty, and were done. These guys today are doing 3, 4, 5+ tours in a career between Iraq, Afghanistan, and anywhere else they are sent. And we wonder why we have so many afflicted with PTSD?

I just wonder if we're asking too much of our military these days, and (if we're going to continue these multiple, long-term conflicts) whether it's time to get every mother's son involved once again?

[QUOTE=Admin2;4019023]There are lots of people who don't understand the "Air Force" had no role in WWII and was then known as The US Army Air Forces until 1947.

Just saying.

A2.[/QUOTE]I think it was known as the 'US Army Air Corps' back then.

[QUOTE=Yragyrag;4019204]You don't like "[I]feeble minded religious bullshit[/I]"? Well your average Jarhead like me can be just as feeble minded as the rest of them, and standby asshole, cause here comes the religious bullshit.

[B][red]JESUS H. CHRIST![/red][/B]

I just get her settled down, and you have to get her all riled up again.

You knew EXACTLY what she meant, but you had to be a real [B]ASSWIPE[/B].

I REALLY don't like sailors, but I'm usually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. However in YOUR case, it's obvious now to everyone that [B][i]the best part of you ran down your Mama's leg and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress[/i][/B]![/QUOTE]I like having those niceties out of the way. And there's no doubt that you are just as feeble minded as your "washed out hooker friend"

[b]GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU DOUBLE DIGIT IQ HOLDING MOTHER FUCKER[/b]. Seriously, you couldn't make a shit stain if you were a turd. And I don't give a hot fuck if you calmed your little down-syndrome hooker down. You're just as fucking dumb as she is.

Really, how is it [b]MY[/b] fault you've hooked your wagon to a [b]brain addled hooker[/b]? [color=red]go fuck yourself.[/color]

[QUOTE=PurrFecttSwags;4019213]The history I know are from the survivors you pussy gay squid.

Swag out.[/QUOTE]Poor thing. I won't be bothering with you anymore, because it's clear that you are a sad little unit that needs help. Please go get some. And by that, I don't mean yraghead. Someone professional would be good.

Good luck, tramp.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;4019623]I like having those niceties out of the way. And there's no doubt that you are just as feeble minded as your "washed out hooker friend"

[b]GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU DOUBLE DIGIT IQ HOLDING MOTHER FUCKER[/b]. Seriously, you couldn't make a shit stain if you were a turd. And I don't give a hot fuck if you calmed your little down-syndrome hooker down. You're just as fucking dumb as she is.

Anyway go fuck yourself.[/QUOTE]So "I" have a double-digit IQ? I'd match mine against yours any day, Popeye! And from here on, you can just address me as "Dr", as all my colleagues do.

YOU, on the other hand, are such a dumb idiot that you can't even understand a simple joke. I was not talking about a "[U]shit[/U] stain", I was talking about a "[U]cum[/U] stain" that ran down the cheek of your Mama's ass and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue], you can ask her about the day that happened!

But if you want to talk about "shit", let's talk about it! You are a classic "asswipe". An asswipe is what's left over "after" one takes a shit -- which means you're not even good enough to be "shit"!

And don't send me any more PMs -- if you've got something you want me to hear, at least have the guts to make it public!

Finally, if I could figure out how to fuck myself, I'd probably be doing it 3 times a day. Instead, can I come in the closet with you -- I hear you've got a real nice pussy!

[blue]You can say that a guy is worse than the cum stain that ran down his mommas ass because that's about him. You cannot talk about anybody's mom. Mom's are off limits.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Admin2;4019023]There are lots of people who don't understand the "Air Force" had no role in WWII and was then known as The US Army Air Forces until 1947.

Just saying.

A2.[/QUOTE]A2 is correct. Here's a link to read about it.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces[/URL]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;4019623]I like having those niceties out of the way. And there's no doubt that you are just as feeble minded as your "washed out hooker friend"

[b]GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU DOUBLE DIGIT IQ HOLDING MOTHER FUCKER[/b]. Seriously, you couldn't make a shit stain if you were a turd. And I don't give a hot fuck if you calmed your little down-syndrome hooker down. You're just as fucking dumb as she is.

Really, how is it [b]MY[/b] fault you've hooked your wagon to a [b]brain addled hooker[/b]? go fuck yourself.[/QUOTE]Really no need to be mean to Swags. Are you really perfect or whatever? Can't remember when the "Trap" has so much true info about our servicemem and HEY. Thanks to Swags and yall for your posts recently in here. Just amamazing.

Today (November 10th) is the 243rd birthday of the United States Marine Corps.

Every year, Bob Parsons ([URL]GoDaddy.com[/URL] CEO) issues a video tribute to "[I]The Few, The Proud[/I]", and to all other veterans who have served in honor of Veteran's Day (November 11th). Bob served in Vietnam as a Marine Infantryman.

Here is this year's video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GufHzKvgeo[/URL].

Enjoy, and [B][i]Thank-You[/i][/B] to all who have served!

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I'm sorry but if one of your photos is you flipping the camera off I won't see you.

Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]The only attitude I want a girl to have when I pay her to be with me is "how may I please you sir". I continue to be amazed by the lack of business accumen these ladies continue to display.

[QUOTE=PurrFecttSwags;4020149]This is one thing I have if his. I need to silver Polish it but I'm very proud to have it.

Swags.[/QUOTE]That's awesome that you have that.

And it's even more awesome that you appreciate having it!

A lot of the younger generation could care less about memorabilia like that, eventhough to some of us, it's PRICELESS!

[QUOTE=TeenLover;4020304]The only attitude I want a girl to have when I pay her to be with me is "how may I please you sir". I continue to be amazed by the lack of business accumen these ladies continue to display.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of something I once read about the difference between Caucasian and Asian SPs:

With Asians, it's, "What can I do to please you?.

With Caucasians, it's, "Are you done yet?

[QUOTE=Rudiger;4020483]This reminds me of something I once read about the difference between Caucasian and Asian SPs:

With Asians, it's, "What can I do to please you?.

With Caucasians, it's, "Are you done yet?[/QUOTE]With AAs it's, "Ugggghhhh, you didn't pay for this. You didn't pay for that. Would you hurry up. " And they are very vocal about it opposed to the others where it's implied in their attitudes. (This is the majority of my experience with them not the standard).

I am a black male that has had all of the aforementioned experiences in the hobby and I love my black women in personal relationships (outside the hobby) but I CANNOT stand dealing with them in the hobby. With any of them, I am at a dilemma; Asians have the best attitude but I am not attracted to them -- I mean, I'll still go to a AMP with no qualms -- but I am not seeking them out.

There, of course, is the age brackets that cause a differ in attitudes as well.

So-Crates.

[QUOTE=Rudiger;4019265]I think it was known as the 'US Army Air Corps' back then.[/QUOTE]It was the Army Air Corps but from the beginning the people who were running the planes were looking for more autonomy because they felt the brass didn't really get aviation. I forget when and don't want to look it up but sometime around 41,42 maybe before they changed the name. Then in 47 they became the Air Farce.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4020599]It was the Army Air Corps but from the beginning the people who were running the planes were looking for more autonomy because they felt the brass didn't really get aviation. I forget when and don't want to look it up but sometime around 41,42 maybe before they changed the name. Then in 47 they became the Air Farce.

A2.[/QUOTE]When you think about it, it makes sense. They are really three completely different modes of warfare: land (Army), sea (Navy), and air (Air Force).

Then there are the Marines, which are kind of a smaller, specialized, quick-reaction force that, supposedly, can go anywhere in the shortest amount of time, and then kill anything that moves.

[QUOTE=Rudiger;4020610]When you think about it, it makes sense. They are really three completely different modes of warfare: land (Army), sea (Navy), and air (Air Force).[/QUOTE]And the USA Space Force.

[QUOTE=Yragyrag;4019678]So "I" have a double-digit IQ? I'd match mine against yours any day, Popeye! And from here on, you can just address me as "Dr", as all my colleagues do.[/QUOTE]I'm not your colleague you silly twat. But you're welcome to cup my balls and decide if they are ready to fill up your girlfriend. (I'm sure she needs a "real" guy). I'm sure you're a great blue-collar guy that likes to think he's a "dr".

I can see how you love the military since they don't pay much. Being broke gets you the cheap, nasty pussy like that swags chick you seem to be so enamored with.

Skipping all the rest since you're obviously a cowardly little * I used to send pups like you to swab the tomahawk deck. LOL.

[QUOTE=PurrFecttSwags;4020266]Love this meme
Bad azz.

Swags.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PurrFecttSwags;4020274]Some good memes just for you!

Swags.

[blue]Re #1 that's because real gyreens only go places where everybody shoots back at you all the time and the justice system isn't yours.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Yeah, the Marines are "[I]kill 'em all, and let God sort 'em out[/I]"-kind of folks! LOL!

Here are a few quotations from Marine General "[I]Mad Dog[/I]" Mattis (our current Secretary of Defense):

- "[I]Its quite fun to shoot them, you know. Its a hell of a hoot. Its fun to shoot some people[/I]".

- "[I]There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot[/I]".

- "[I]I come in peace. I didnt bring artillery. But Im pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, Ill kill you all[/I]".

- "[I]Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet[/I]".

- "[I]There are some people who think you have to hate them in order to shoot them. I dont think you do[/I]".

[QUOTE=Rudiger;4020610]When you think about it, it makes sense. They are really three completely different modes of warfare: land (Army), sea (Navy), and air (Air Force).

Then there are the Marines, which are kind of a smaller, specialized, quick-reaction force that, supposedly, can go anywhere in the shortest amount of time, and then kill anything that moves.[/QUOTE]In everyone's defense, [U]ALL[/U] services today can "[I]kill anything that moves[/I]", within the bounds of the weapons systems and munitions they have.

Guess back during WWII they thought it was time to separate the air component of the Army, and form the Air Force. Much like today it appears they may well separate the Space Command component of the Air Force, and form a Space Force.

There is still some overlap between the services today, particularly in aviation, but they all serve different functions / missions.

For example, the Army has helicopters, as do the Marines (and also the Coast Guard, during time of war).

And the Marines, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard all have fixed-wing aircraft.