Any reviews on this place? Was thinking about checking it out.
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Any reviews on this place? Was thinking about checking it out.
Morning fellas, drove up to Sun this weekend I was told to come back in 1/2 hr by the girl at the door slightly disappointed due to the great reviews opted to try out Jasmine on Prince no cars in the parking lot good sign or bad unclear at the time opted for the 1/2 hr nice massage but that's as far as the enjoyment went no option no teasing now I now no cars was a bad sign. Massage was good FYI.
[QUOTE=Handylovr;5866957]Morning fellas, drove up to Sun this weekend I was told to come back in 1/2 hr by the girl at the door slightly disappointed due to the great reviews opted to try out Jasmine on Prince no cars in the parking lot good sign or bad unclear at the time opted for the 1/2 hr nice massage but that's as far as the enjoyment went no option no teasing now I now no cars was a bad sign. Massage was good FYI.[/QUOTE]I used to get a happy ending from Amy will I played with her tities. She was a slightly plump in her 40's. Gave a halfway decent massage too.
[QUOTE=DesertSailor;5867069]I used to get a happy ending from Amy will I played with her tities. She was a slightly plump in her 40's. Gave a halfway decent massage too.[/QUOTE]That was my assumption since I looked at old previous reports but no go with this guy, maybe that overly used YMMV thing.
Made an appt for Friday at 9, wanted to be first in line to see her. Walked in and greeted by Elaine, always great to see her. Bella and the other new girl were inside on the couch. Elaine introduced us and then had Bella take me back to the room. All of the reviews have been very accurate:
Pros: Tall, cute, nice natural chest, very friendly, loves to kiss, loves to give head (tons of eye contact and a lot of slurpin) lots and lots of teasing and kissing all over the body, CIM, will camel slide uncovered, also will allow you to slide your cock b / w her butt cheeks but don't believe Greek is available. Overall a lot of fun and very engaged, definitely recommend.
Negatives: can't deepthroat, not a big deal at all but her head game was so strong that would have put her over the top. She was also very tight, needed lube to fit me and she asked to be on top after trying to have me on top. Again, not a big deal, but it limited positions for us.
She needed up finishing me sitting on the edge of the table and I blew in her mouth and it was lovely. We had some time left and she asked if I'd like to meet the new girl, I said sure. New girl came in and started to give me a head massage, she asked if I wanted to go for a second round but wasn't feeling it with her. Great time, and glad I made it in.
I had a chance to visit AA today, given the change in management I wanted to see what the talent was like. So a drew Rose, petite girl with long hair brown hair and blond stripes. She is skinny with big jugs. Nice body and a gorgeous face so I think I really love the looked on her face it reminded me of an old girlfriend that I used to have and loved dearly. I took a shower there to make sure I was clean for her, massage was 3 out of 10. A bit of teasing to get a bit excited. The flip came and right away was money money money, money! She di not asked how much she just said money with her fingers. Not much talk, she did a good job with CBJ and got very wet when I fingered her. She got on RCG which was good and she was dripping then got up ans said me on top, so I comply to mish, it was great to see such a beautiful woman being banged with large titties. But she turn to be mechanical and not much connection. Flipped her to doggie and pounded that ass for a while she keep saying yes fuck me I was so deep in her and kept pushing she had to tell to slow and not to make so much smack noise. I was I was slap slap slap on that ass very load. Finally filled the bag clean up got dress and water and off to the raises.
Will I return? Shure! I think she is one beautiful woman but that is why I will return her service was a 5 out of 10.
[QUOTE=Limerence;5865205]I was driving down Oracle and thought I saw a new banner on the front of you spa. I think it looked like 2 letters now. Did not have a chance to see for sure.[/QUOTE]On the way to Total Wine I drove by and indeed the makeshift new banner had M P Spa written on it. I hope someone samples and reports on this place. It would be nice to get a tug and better, as the old you Spa didn't do anything but give a good straight massage.
[QUOTE=Raider420;5866546]Any reviews on this place? Was thinking about checking it out.[/QUOTE]I will say I have not been there in awhile like over a year. Ironically it is the closest to my residence. I will say everything is available girl were ok I am certain they have rotated many times since the last time I was there.
Sorry for being slow to post but I got distracted with other things. On Saturday I went to King to check it out but the two girls there didn't appeal to me at all so I did something I normally don't do and that was to walk out. Went to AA instead since there is usually a decent looking girl there. I was greeted by an unfamiliar face with long straight black hair, probably B cup tits, and a nice green dress which always wins me over. Was hoping for an hour but she didn't even ask and just said 30 minutes so I figured I'd go short with untested waters. She said it was her first day so when I asked her name she said it was Kim. First day in Tucson or just AA, I don't know, but she was new to me so she might be new to you. Massage was really more of a slow sensual rub. Not even a memorable sensual rub and minimal teasing in that she would press her boobs against my head as she would reach her hands down my back to my ass. Luckily FS was available. She asked if I knew how much and I said $, she countered with $. 4, and I offered $. 2 which she agreed to. She started with a covered BJ but I think the cover was too small (not boasting, I really think it was too small) so I didn't feel much. Then she got on top and rode for a bit while I sucked her very suckable torpedo nipples which I think we both enjoyed. She was very wet, very accommodating, and offered flattering words. Felt a little loose though which may have been an illusion caused by the small cover so who knows. Switched to missionary for a bit until my abs got too sore (was digging outside all day) and ended the fun early. Normally I'd be offered a head rub or something for the remaining time but she called it quits and went to get me a bottle of water so I'm glad I didn't go with the full hour. Overall I'd give the massage a 2/5 and the rest a 3/5. I wouldn't mind repeating but the lack of a decent massage means there are better options available. As always, YMMV.
[QUOTE=ItsToBig;5869683]On the way to Total Wine I drove by and indeed the makeshift new banner had M P Spa written on it. I hope someone samples and reports on this place. It would be nice to get a tug and better, as the old you Spa didn't do anything but give a good straight massage.[/QUOTE]Since it had a new sign, I stopped on the way home from work today to see if anything has actually changed. Mandy (who has been there for several months) was working, she told me there was a new owner, not her. I asked if anyone else worked there, and she said no, but her English isn't great so I'm not sure she really understood my question: maybe she is the only employee at that spa, or maybe she was the only one working this afternoon.
If you haven't seen her, I'd put her about 7-7. 5 on the AMP scale, mid-40's, friendly, maybe 5'5", average body. She gives a much better than average massage, and a pretty good HJ. A BJ is on the table, but it's difficult to get her clothes off, especially her pants. I've seen her a dozen times in the last several months, definitely worth a visit if you haven't.
[QUOTE=Dabbler99;5871551]Since it had a new sign, I stopped on the way home from work today to see if anything has actually changed. Mandy (who has been there for several months) was working, she told me there was a new owner, not her. I asked if anyone else worked there, and she said no, but her English isn't great so I'm not sure she really understood my question: maybe she is the only employee at that spa, or maybe she was the only one working this afternoon.
If you haven't seen her, I'd put her about 7-7. 5 on the AMP scale, mid-40's, friendly, maybe 5'5", average body. She gives a much better than average massage, and a pretty good HJ. A BJ is on the table, but it's difficult to get her clothes off, especially her pants. I've seen her a dozen times in the last several months, definitely worth a visit if you haven't.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. It all sounds about the same as the you Spa treatment. I never received a HJ there at all, nor was it ever offered. We'll just have to see.
[QUOTE=FunBobby006;5866122]New to the site but wanted to sing the praises about Chi Massage in OV. No bs negotiating. Just a very good massage with HE. I've never asked for anything else and I don't grab her. Alice is the owner and the only one I'll go to. Easily the best real massage and she will finish. Mention that you heard on a website. Only tried HE. 70 for an hour plus I give. 5 tip. Class and great HE. She is slow during the week days.[/QUOTE]Any one else have any experience with this place sounds interesting? Self advertising? Picked my curiosity.
[QUOTE=HandyLovr;5872487]Any one else have any experience with this place sounds interesting? Self advertising? Picked my curiosity.[/QUOTE]Several have reported on Chi, and given similar take, including me. Alice is a professional masseuse and gives a very good one. She's also started giving fully clothed HJ's, nothing else. I don't believe anyone else there offers this, so Alice is the one to go to. Try her out, but make an appointment to ensure you get what you want.
[QUOTE=CingCong1;5872645]Several have reported on Chi, and given similar take, including me. Alice is a professional masseuse and gives a very good one. She's also started giving fully clothed HJ's, nothing else. I don't believe anyone else there offers this, so Alice is the one to go to. Try her out, but make an appointment to ensure you get what you want.[/QUOTE]Response appreciated, I will proceed full of confidence and with / appointment.
[QUOTE=HandyLovr;5872487]Any one else have any experience with this place sounds interesting? Self advertising? Picked my curiosity.[/QUOTE]I'll vouch. In my experience, Alice has a pretty face, gives a very good massage, and is reasonably friendly. Very minimal teasing, average body, and she's not ver interested in you touching her. She hasn't offered anything but a HJ, I haven't asked for anything else. Massage fee and tip are paid when you leave.
Be sure to make an appointment with Alice, the other woman gives a very G-rated massage.
Stopped in on my way home just to check out the women. A very cute Chinese girl with good English answered. I couldn't stay and asked if they had a table shower and if she was alone. She said there was another girl in back. Might be worth checking out.
I text Elaine and made an appt with Bella and reminded her to be shower fresh in the front and back. Bella took me to her room and I gave donation for an hour (don't normally do an hour) and got dressed for the occasion. Bella came back and immediately dressed the same and we started in on those gorgeous man-made B cup boobs. I swung her around and laid her down for DATY and she O'd twice before saying she needed to stop and breathe. I rolled her over in the doggie position and handed her a vibrator when I started DATO, which she loves. She finally insisted it was my turn and she got on top of me and started a NURU massage licking and kissing me all over. I pulled out my prostate toy, which she had never seen and I showed her how to use and she went to town. She loved that toy and got so wet she came again with little vibrator help. The she started to concentrate more on me and started licking my legs, taint, balls, and junior. I told her she could slip a finger in and she did while sucking me to completion BB. We were both out of breath and she cleaned me up before I realized we had gone an entire 50 minutes of play, which is unusual for me. I gave her a hug and told her I'd be back. She is only here for another 2 weeks and then she heads back to Florida for her rotation. Be safe out there and YMMV!!
I happened to be in the area and drove by Lavender and it looked open. I saw two cars the parking lot and the open sign was on. I didn't have time to stop by and check. Does anyone know if she's back?
[QUOTE=GreatExpecta;5875218]I text Elaine and made an appt with Bella and reminded her to be shower fresh in the front and back. Bella took me to her room and I gave donation for an hour (don't normally do an hour) and got dressed for the occasion. Bella came back and immediately dressed the same and we started in on those gorgeous man-made B cup boobs. I swung her around and laid her down for DATY and she O'd twice before saying she needed to stop and breathe. I rolled her over in the doggie position and handed her a vibrator when I started DATO, which she loves. She finally insisted it was my turn and she got on top of me and started a NURU massage licking and kissing me all over. I pulled out my prostate toy, which she had never seen and I showed her how to use and she went to town. She loved that toy and got so wet she came again with little vibrator help. The she started to concentrate more on me and started licking my legs, taint, balls, and junior. I told her she could slip a finger in and she did while sucking me to completion BB. We were both out of breath and she cleaned me up before I realized we had gone an entire 50 minutes of play, which is unusual for me. I gave her a hug and told her I'd be back. She is only here for another 2 weeks and then she heads back to Florida for her rotation. Be safe out there and YMMV!![/QUOTE]Was wondering if Bella wil toss your salad? If she does I'm going to have to see her asap.
[QUOTE=SteelyRick;5864226]Well fella's I went in search of the fabled Mindy from Lavender Spa and her supposed new location at 702 S Craycroft. I follwed German Chris instructions and tried texting many times with no response.
Finally I called and who I thought was Mindy answered and I made an appt. She told me her new name was Coco. Needless to say I showed up and no Mindy. I was unhappy of course and should have bolted right then and there.
But, alas it was a very long drive for me and I made the mistake of staying. She was about a 5 of 10 on the AMP scale. Massage was muh. No teasing whatsoever. Told me to flip and I just could not get excited. I have been thinking about Mindy for a long time as I really love her massage and teasing. Oh well. So there you have it.[/QUOTE]Shitty that they are dishonest with us. I loved Mindy but wasn't willing to drive 45 minutes round trip (1 hour from work) to see her.
For clarity I just gave you the number and said they texted me claiming Mindy was there over a month ago. Felt the term "instructions" makes it sound like I was in on the scheme.
Side note: Lisa / Yumi (she called herself Yumi when I first asked and Lisa 2nd time) at Sapphire is more attractive offers FS and is par for quality massage. Downside is she is busy as fuck and keeps her mask on. Additionally I have not tried prostate play with her, which was Mindy's specialty. Would love to know a masseuse who is active now and is great to stimulate front and back. Old ladies at Fuzu are willing but not particularly skilled there. Lastly I agree Fuzu probably stopped FS for some reason used to be automatic for me now it's not ordered by same woman.
[QUOTE=GermanChris;5876748]Shitty that they are dishonest with us. I loved Mindy but wasn't willing to drive 45 minutes round trip (1 hour from work) to see her.
For clarity I just gave you the number and said they texted me claiming Mindy was there over a month ago. Felt the term "instructions" makes it sound like I was in on the scheme.
Side note: Lisa / Yumi (she called herself Yumi when I first asked and Lisa 2nd time) at Sapphire is more attractive offers FS and is par for quality massage. Downside is she is busy as fuck and keeps her mask on. Additionally I have not tried prostate play with her, which was Mindy's specialty. Would love to know a masseuse who is active now and is great to stimulate front and back. Old ladies at Fuzu are willing but not particularly skilled there. Lastly I agree Fuzu probably stopped FS for some reason used to be automatic for me now it's not ordered by same woman.[/QUOTE]Was wondering if anyone ever got a 4 handed rub from both old ladies?
I've had both indiviualy, but never both at same time. Was going to try Monday am.
Went to Sun on Sat morning but Bella was busy and Elaine wasn't there. Took a shot with Yoko. Asked for an hour she said half, but she relented and went with the hour. I'd say she's mid to late 40's, not bad looking and a good body. I stated off in my birthday suit, and she left to get her equipment. Came back and she started off with some kissing of my neck and playing with my nipples. She then dropped down for a decent CBJ, but either the equipment was too thick or something but I couldn't even feel if she was doing a CBJ, alas she was. Had her stop and climb on top, and this is where it got better. She was not super tight, but she is responsive. After a couple of minutes she started taking me deeper. I pulled her in and low and behold a little lfk. Not anything like Bella, but it was something LOL. After a couple minutes of her on top, she started making the right sounds, albeit, very quietly. She then asked to switch positions, she wanted to be bent over the table. I complied and this allowed me to go deeper, but I'm also certain this was her spot. After 10 minutes or so I filled the bag, but she kept me in and tried to get junior back to attention. I was good, so she cleaned me up and had me lay down. Massaged my head and then time was up. It was a good experience, but a 180 compared to Bella.
[QUOTE=CingCong1;5867413]Made an appt for Friday at 9, wanted to be first in line to see her. Walked in and greeted by Elaine, always great to see her. Bella and the other new girl were inside on the couch. Elaine introduced us and then had Bella take me back to the room. All of the reviews have been very accurate:
Pros: Tall, cute, nice natural chest, very friendly, loves to kiss, loves to give head (tons of eye contact and a lot of slurpin) lots and lots of teasing and kissing all over the body, CIM, will camel slide uncovered, also will allow you to slide your cock b / w her butt cheeks but don't believe Greek is available. Overall a lot of fun and very engaged, definitely recommend.
Negatives: can't deepthroat, not a big deal at all but her head game was so strong that would have put her over the top. She was also very tight, needed lube to fit me and she asked to be on top after trying to have me on top. Again, not a big deal, but it limited positions for us.
She needed up finishing me sitting on the edge of the table and I blew in her mouth and it was lovely. We had some time left and she asked if I'd like to meet the new girl, I said sure. New girl came in and started to give me a head massage, she asked if I wanted to go for a second round but wasn't feeling it with her. Great time, and glad I made it in.[/QUOTE]Is this the same Bella that works the streets sometimes? Met a gal named Bella couple years ago. She was one of the best I ever had. Italian or Hispanic, long black hair, tall and slender 5'6" or so. HNo tits but she made up for it in raw sensuality. Would love to find her again.
[QUOTE=Deep69;5878421]Is this the same Bella that works the streets sometimes? Met a gal named Bella couple years ago. She was one of the best I ever had. Italian or Hispanic, long black hair, tall and slender 5'6" or so. HNo tits but she made up for it in raw sensuality. Would love to find her again.[/QUOTE]Zero chance of being the same girl.
[QUOTE=Butlik369;5877112]Was wondering if anyone ever got a 4 handed rub from both old ladies?
I've had both indiviualy, but never both at same time. Was going to try Monday am.[/QUOTE]A few months back I had covered BJ and and DATY with both at same time. They were Anna and Yo-yo. Anna is the pretttier one, but both old and their costumes made me think of vintage "little Bo Peep" and made of my old moms washed out sun curtains. Threesome was not that great as Yo-yo kept trying to finish me quickly. I had to tell her to back off. They say "yes" to everything but don't really deliver. I tried a repeat a few weeks later but quickly dismissed Yo-yo. Both gals had eraser nipples that were likely man made.
Mindy is back and Lavender reopened after fire in adjoining suites. She has a new phone number that I misplaced. It was not an area "520". I stopped in just to check it out. Will make a real visit in coming days.
I am going to be in the area for work, do you have any favorite spas / therapists for MSOG?
[QUOTE=DesertSailor;5879261]Mindy is back and Lavender reopened after fire in adjoining suites. She has a new phone number that I misplaced. It was not an area "520". I stopped in just to check it out. Will make a real visit in coming days.[/QUOTE]Mindys new number: (626) 489-8282. I got such a wonderful warm welcome back hug that I almost forgot why I came. Ha ha. She has not lost her "touch". Said she took a big hit financially because she had to toss out smoke damaged fixtures. I showed my gratitude.
[QUOTE=CingCong1;5877583]Went to Sun on Sat morning but Bella was busy and Elaine wasn't there. Took a shot with Yoko. Asked for an hour she said half, but she relented and went with the hour. I'd say she's mid to late 40's, not bad looking and a good body. I stated off in my birthday suit, and she left to get her equipment. Came back and she started off with some kissing of my neck and playing with my nipples. She then dropped down for a decent CBJ, but either the equipment was too thick or something but I couldn't even feel if she was doing a CBJ, alas she was. Had her stop and climb on top, and this is where it got better. She was not super tight, but she is responsive. After a couple of minutes she started taking me deeper. I pulled her in and low and behold a little lfk. Not anything like Bella, but it was something LOL. After a couple minutes of her on top, she started making the right sounds, albeit, very quietly. She then asked to switch positions, she wanted to be bent over the table. I complied and this allowed me to go deeper, but I'm also certain this was her spot. After 10 minutes or so I filled the bag, but she kept me in and tried to get junior back to attention. I was good, so she cleaned me up and had me lay down. Massaged my head and then time was up. It was a good experience, but a 180 compared to Bella.[/QUOTE]I was in the area an had some time to kill so I when to sun and Yoko opened the door, Bella was busy getting pounded so I took Yoko. She is one beautiful MILF with a nice body. She does have a pair of man made but they are great. She has this beautiful I love that she takes the time to put make up and doll her self up. She is friendly and know how to take a cock. I opted for the half hour and she took me to the room gathered the mula and right away starts to kiss my neck I told her I would like to borrow her shower so she left and got it ready. I took a quick one and left for the room where she was waiting for me. She started again kissing me all over and got my friend excited. After some rubbing and touching each other we skipped the massage and I Ladd her down, I love to suck on that pussy until she comes softly and continue to quiver pull my head in more with her legs rapped around my neck. We do this for like a boy 15 minutes then on cover and to fuck. She was mish all the time but I was deep in her, she keep pushing me in farther and I keep felling her come more she was sooooo wet and ever time I was deeper she kept dripping more all over she was so wet when I pull her legs over my shoulders and drove my self deeper robbed that clit soft and watch her cum more I most to have gotten the right spot because she kept saying yes right there fuck me fucke me. I sucked on her sharp nipples and pushed deeper finally when I felt her that she was about to come again I drove my self hard into her and keep pounding harder and harder until I filled the bag.
By the time I was done her and I were spent, she cleaned me up and water with mouth wash, got dressed and out the door on my way out saw Bella, she said hi and a kiss to both. Yoko asked me to come back to see her soon. I will return to fuck that Chinese MILF she is one beautiful woman.
[QUOTE=PacificNw360;5879565]I am going to be in the area for work, do you have any favorite spas / therapists for MSOG?[/QUOTE]No MSOG got to find escort girls for that.
Heads up, gents. Just saw signage at 6590 E Tanque Verde for Jin Massage, just a few hundred feet west of Sol Spa. Nothing showing up on Google yet. Will check soon and report.
Another trip to Sun was quite successful today. I was greeted by the infamous Bella. She is pretty, super friendly, very shapely, and knows how to treat a man. She is very Oral Annie! I forked over the house money for a good massage. I also got excellent foreplay with my boys and their master before the flip. We agreed to $$ for a covered pussy fuck, and what turned out to be three BBBJ's. Her pussy was a perfect fit (mish and doggy). The uncovered 69 was really tasty! She sucked my titties too! She once knelt by the table, had me sit, and once again delivered a BBBJ! She finished me with a BBBJ / CIM. I was definitely Bellatised! However, YMMV. For me it was like driving an F-150 with Pinto mileage.
[QUOTE=CailonMano;5880139]No MSOG got to find escort girls for that.[/QUOTE]Well that's a bummer, thank you for the response. I guess I'll have to jump on the other forum and do more research.
Long time reader, first time poster. Wondering where the large chested ladies are at? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Happy hunting and be safe!
[QUOTE=ItsToBig;5880536]For me it was like driving an F-150 with Pinto mileage.[/QUOTE]Interesting imagery. Can't wait to test drive that F-150.
[QUOTE=ItsToBig;5880536]Another trip to Sun was quite successful today. I was greeted by the infamous Bella. She is pretty, super friendly, very shapely, and knows how to treat a man. She is very Oral Annie! I forked over the house money for a good massage. I also got excellent foreplay with my boys and their master before the flip. We agreed to $$ for a covered pussy fuck, and what turned out to be three BBBJ's. Her pussy was a perfect fit (mish and doggy). The uncovered 69 was really tasty! She sucked my titties too! She once knelt by the table, had me sit, and once again delivered a BBBJ! She finished me with a BBBJ / CIM. I was definitely Bellatised! However, YMMV. For me it was like driving an F-150 with Pinto mileage.[/QUOTE]Yowzer be aware FS can be had at sun and AA for a buck twenty.
[QUOTE=PacificNw360;5880960]Well that's a bummer, thank you for the response. I guess I'll have to jump on the other forum and do more research.[/QUOTE]You can get it, but it'll just cost you more on the tip at a minimum. I've done it and paid for 90 minutes and extra tip money. Don't recommend it unless you've already had a good experience with them and just want it to last longer. I would never do it as a first time encounter. Stay safe and monger on!
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5881328]Yowzer be aware FS can be had at sun and AA for a buck twenty.[/QUOTE]Always did 1. 2 not understanding why someone would just waste it away and also get the GPS going on these girls.
[QUOTE=LikeSushiWushi;5881714]Always did 1. 2 not understanding why someone would just waste it away and also get the GPS going on these girls.[/QUOTE]We all have our own standards, but I definitely agree with you about sparking GPS! I have seen it a few of the AMP'S.
That is why I have not been going to AMP'S as much lately.
Greetings all,
Been long time observer but not contributor. Thought I would change that.
Thanks to all the great fellow monger parlor reports, but have not seen one on M Spa. 7, at least not lately. So I'll give a take. Two ladies there provide an above average massage, with a reasonably full menu addons available.
Seven is a cute, youthful little spinner with amazing muscle control. She must excel at her "Lindy pen" exercises. Eva is a bit fuller figured, and some what older, but is enthusiastic in taking care of her customer.
On my last visit there this past weekend, I was encouraged to visit AZ Spa just up the street. Apparently there are supposed to be a couple (Eva said three but that just doesn't seem right) of petite 23 yo additions to the staff on Wednesday last. I haven't had the chance to pay a visit, so cannot confirm the truth.
Also paid a visit to the Spa on Broadway (50 S Houghten), the name escapes me at the moment. Nice middle aged Chinese lady with very good massage skills, and most entertaining after the flip. Not on my regular stops as it is a bit GUD, but was curious.
Also a big fan of Bella's at Sun and will be modestly disappointed when she leaves all too soon. I only say that because although a fantastic provider in all respects, she is damn hard to get an hour appointment with.
Always have enjoyed the insights and sharing information of the board here.