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[QUOTE=Jw2020;4354535]I don't want a trend starting either and what I did IMHO will prevent stupid Scammers from trying this on others. No I didn't text him the receipt of my Debit Card which is what he wanted me to do.

But how does one really know what is a Scam or not a Scam 100% of the time? Are there legit providers in all of the United States who actually do accept or prefer Debit Visa Cards as a method of payment? Who knows unless you are having sex with all of the providers.

As I previously stated there were bogus made up fake reviews and comments made by the Scammer and the links were texted to me which made me think it could be a legit provider.

Did I possibly help some of the newer mongers who haven't encountered the Debit Card Scam from not texting the receipt of the Debit Card or not getting the card in the first place? I hope and think Yes. I just recently read on this website in another city where another monger just did encounter the same situation.

Did I do anything wrong by driving to the location to find out if it really was a Scam? I think not. I validated that it was a true scam. I will give Kudos to any Monger here who risks getting arrested by visiting a service worker they haven't seen before or doesn't have actual reviews from another proven Senior Member on this site and then reports back to this forum.

Do some Service Workers not post their actual photos on their ad? Of course Yes. We encounter this all the time. Some Service Workers don't want their faces or bodies publicly posted.

Now what if I had driven to the incall location and the provider did accept the debit card as payment and she happened to be the best piece of Ass I had ever fucked? She was a knock out and provided excellent service? Would any Monger here appreciate the fact that I took a risk and found out what the truth really was and now they could also fuck this fine piece of Ass? Yes it probably will not be likely based upon previous experiences but one can't always say that any and All requests for anything but Cash as a method of payment is a Scam.

Do I use Cash as a method of payment? Yes I do but I have also noticed that some providers accept Credit Cards as a form of payment. Have I done this? No I haven't but maybe someone has and it was from a legit provider and she gave good service.

I can assure everyone here in this forum that a request from this Service Provider using the photos is a Scam and should be avoided.

Peace.

JW.[/QUOTE]I think what Sin is trying to say is just don't bother with it, why even consider it? What's the advantage for us? Just assume they're all scams.

It wouldn't surprise me if the multiple ads being posted nationwide asking for cc is from the same dude.

Don't entertain it, let's move on.

[QUOTE=NaughtyBoy1;4355675]Guys:

Anybody tried this Asian pussy on listcrawler.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.orlando.listcrawler.com/post/35148535/[/URL]

NB1.[/QUOTE]Seriously? You think this chick is real? Go ahead and TOFTT and report back. BTW, I have a bridge I'm willing to sell real cheap. SMH.

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4355890]I've used a pre-paid card once or twice. While, like most, I've nearly always used cash, I have had one or two girls request a debit card, I remember specifically one girl requesting a green dot card. Like JW stated in his subsequent post on this subject, you get the pre-paid debit card, it has zero connection to you personally. It has no name, address phone number or anything else tying it to anyone, yourself included. If the date happens, you give the chick the debit card. If it falls through for whatever reason, no harm, no foul, just spend the debit card yourself.

I wonder if anyone has done this in the real world. Remember the TV show The Shield? There was a character on the show, he was a captain on the police force and then on the city council. He saw a provider regularly but, to avoid the "cash for sexual services" thing, he'd go to a store like Macy's, buy a purse, item of jewelry or whatever, get a gift receipt and then give the provider this "gift" and the gift receipt. She'd then return it to Macy's and get her money! Sure, it seems like a hassle, if it helps avoid being convicted of a crime, what the hell![/QUOTE]Leave it to a cop to figure out how to legally pay for a hooker. The biggest issue is she'd be pricey to go through those machinations to get her money.

[QUOTE=Camera3;4354698]Yeah, I have run into those that accept Visa, MC and American Express. I have not tried it, but they do exist.

C3.[/QUOTE]On second thought I just remembered, I have used my Credit Card for services at a Strip Club in Tampa that used to be called YBOR Strip Club now called Scarletts. If you want to go to a full nude strip club, it is pretty cool and in Tampa. It costs 50 Marios for the VIP Room which is for around 20 to 30 minutes and another 200 Marios for the girl. I have had full service there for the 250 Marios several times. It is a little expensive but sometimes it is worth it. LOL.

Made a visit to Blonde Barbie today. She is a student trying to get some extra cash for school. The photos in the Ad on EB are a lot better than she was in person as she has gained some weight. I would give her a 5 or 6 on a scale to 10 for her actual looks but it is definitely the girl in the photos. She was at a motel and had a medium sized dog who jumped up on the bed twice during K9. I guess he wanted some K9 action. LOL He was good mannered and didn't bother me. The service is all covered. BJ, K9, Mish, Cowgirl. She doesn't kiss and actually put a pillow over her face during Mish. I ended up getting her to allow me to pull it off her later. LOL I would recommend her for one visit but not sure about repeat. Damage was 100 Marios for hhr and if you wanted 1 hr it is 150 Marios.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/4079002125[/URL]

On the USA site adds?

She makes me crazy. So cute, a perfect brunette. Any of you guys know?

Is she a porn star, a nude model? Got to name?

Post a link if you got something!

[QUOTE=RowdyReptile;4356460]On the USA site adds?

She makes me crazy. So cute, a perfect brunette. Any of you guys know?

Is she a porn star, a nude model? Got to name?

Post a link if you got something![/QUOTE]She's just a hot model in the ad for Secret Benefits.

[QUOTE=RowdyReptile;4356460]On the USA site adds?

She makes me crazy. So cute, a perfect brunette. Any of you guys know?

Is she a porn star, a nude model? Got to name?

Post a link if you got something![/QUOTE]Alex Morgan. USA Soccer. Kidding, but looks are similar and I agree, that pic peaks my interest as well.

[QUOTE=RowdyReptile;4356460]On the USA site adds?

She makes me crazy. So cute, a perfect brunette. Any of you guys know?

Is she a porn star, a nude model? Got to name?

Post a link if you got something![/QUOTE]I used to work with a girl that looks almost exactly like her (idk about naked but probably). She is so fucking cute, great tits. I can't help but stare at that ad everytime I log in and think about that chick. Best part was she is german and has the cutest little accent. Damn she's hot.

[QUOTE=JJFresh;4356117]I think what Sin is trying to say is just don't bother with it, why even consider it? What's the advantage for us? Just assume they're all scams.

It wouldn't surprise me if the multiple ads being posted nationwide asking for cc is from the same dude.

Don't entertain it, let's move on.[/QUOTE]I know a lady I have seen many times that got into the business when her boyfriend died, left her nothing. She needed cash to get by and now, years later, she is a legend in Central Florida (I won't mention her name, but a lot of you guys know her). She has done well enough, and has no bad habits that eat cash, that she paid cash for her house in a nice neighborhood. We were drinking one day and she showed me a few safes in her house, all filled with cash, and said she had more in another place she owns. I am guessing there was tens of thousands of dollars. She has a life-long friend who put her on his "payroll" and she runs enough cash through that to stay off the radar of feds and cops. Her business model is simple. She keeps a strict schedule and spends most of her week working in Orlando but a couple days in a hotel room in The Villages.

That girl is brilliant. And she doesn't take plastic.

I did like the story of using a card at a strip club. It is possible I might have done that a time or two.

Play safe,

C3.

[QUOTE=NaughtyBoy1;4355675]Guys:

Anybody tried this Asian pussy on listcrawler.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.orlando.listcrawler.com/post/35148535/[/URL]

NB1.[/QUOTE]You ask about "this Asian" but the link goes to a supposed "Indian young housewife". The last thing on the ad "Then I sent my number within in 20 seconds". Is normally when they send you a link that requires credit card information so you can get their info. I'd say scam and run away from any thoughts of contact.

Tonight was a rainy dreary night, I texted Alyssa Rain, told her my handle, and I'm a Senior, and available for car date? She asked FS or headache?, I have a small car so FS is out, so headache is my choice, she said OK 60, I said I'm a 40 guy. If she would have come back with 50 or 55 I would give her the sausage, but she went quiet never answered. I think you guys are paying too much, I have several regulars that know and trust me and often give a half off deal. If you buying every house or car you make an offer on, YOU PAYIN' TOO DAM MUCH!

Yd.

[QUOTE=YankeeDoodle;4359995]Tonight was a rainy dreary night, I texted Alyssa Rain, told her my handle, and I'm a Senior, and available for car date? She asked FS or headache?, I have a small car so FS is out, so headache is my choice, she said OK 60, I said I'm a 40 guy. If she would have come back with 50 or 55 I would give her the sausage, but she went quiet never answered. I think you guys are paying too much, I have several regulars that know and trust me and often give a half off deal. If you buying every house or car you make an offer on, YOU PAYIN' TOO DAM MUCH!

Yd.[/QUOTE]Good call, YD. Even 40 for that service is on the high side. No negotiation is a non-starter. Many have no business sense but when they're starving, they'll learn some.

[QUOTE=YankeeDoodle;4359995]Tonight was a rainy dreary night, I texted Alyssa Rain, told her my handle, and I'm a Senior, and available for car date? She asked FS or headache?, I have a small car so FS is out, so headache is my choice, she said OK 60, I said I'm a 40 guy. If she would have come back with 50 or 55 I would give her the sausage, but she went quiet never answered. I think you guys are paying too much, I have several regulars that know and trust me and often give a half off deal. If you buying every house or car you make an offer on, YOU PAYIN' TOO DAM MUCH!

Yd.[/QUOTE]I have been wondering about the rate escalation. Anything above 100 for hh or 150 hr is more than I am willing to pay. I have contacted many peoviders who are asking for more, but when I tell them my max, many do come down to that rate. 150 beats the Hell out of nothing. A big reason this forum exists is to share info and IMHO it exists to keep the rates within reason.

What Motel do you recommend on the trail? Looking for something ok that doesn't break the bank for a few hours in the AM. Thank you.

[QUOTE=TheReal84;4363827]Good Motel OBT?

What Motel do you recommend on the trail? Looking for something ok that doesn't break the bank for a few hours in the AM. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I'd recommend the Geneva motel near the corner of OBT and Clarcona Ocoee Rd. There are several trusted providers who use it as their regular incall. Looks sketchy on the outside but it's cheap, clean, and I've never had an issue.

SYM.

[QUOTE=TheReal84;4363827]What Motel do you recommend on the trail? Looking for something ok that doesn't break the bank for a few hours in the AM. Thank you.[/QUOTE]It's a dump but the rooms are dark enough that you can't see the carpet. Sheets always smell clean and the towels are only semi rigid. It's definitely cheap and does feel safe, the cockroaches are small and the ones that don't scurry when the lights come on, seem to chill in the fluorescent lights and mind their own business. If I can nitpick a little, the shitter is placed in a horrible location that makes a pregame shit near impossible if you're a size 36 or up ass. All in all it's better than fucking in a deawoo or a Prius for the greener mongers out there. I've also read that it's way better than The Sands.

[QUOTE=TheReal84;4363827]What Motel do you recommend on the trail? Looking for something ok that doesn't break the bank for a few hours in the AM. Thank you.[/QUOTE]At $27 for two hours, Geneva is your only choice. Rooms are cleaned between patron visits with clean sheets and towels. Several channels of porn on the flat screen TVs and the mattresses are less than two years old. I'd is not required. They do take down your license plate number. Parking is hidden from the street. Let's call it, rustic and clean. AC works in all rooms and many rooms have tie bars on the headboards. Room 20 is best for bondage, if that is your thing.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.

Your mailbox is full. Tried to reply to your question about Tip. Yes, the number in her ad is the number I contacted her on.

[QUOTE=Camera3;4364163]At $27 for two hours, Geneva is your only choice. Rooms are cleaned between patron visits with clean sheets and towels. Several channels of porn on the flat screen TVs and the mattresses are less than two years old. I'd is not required. They do take down your license plate number. Parking is hidden from the street. Let's call it, rustic and clean. AC works in all rooms and many rooms have tie bars on the headboards. Room 20 is best for bondage, if that is your thing.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.[/QUOTE]LMAO C3! Are you banging the cleaning lady or did you buy the place? How do you know how old the mattresses are? Hopefully you're not smelling them! Just giving you a hard time, LOL

SYM.

[QUOTE=Camera3;4364163]At $27 for two hours, Geneva is your only choice. Rooms are cleaned between patron visits with clean sheets and towels. Several channels of porn on the flat screen TVs and the mattresses are less than two years old. I'd is not required. They do take down your license plate number. Parking is hidden from the street. Let's call it, rustic and clean. AC works in all rooms and many rooms have tie bars on the headboards. Room 20 is best for bondage, if that is your thing.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.[/QUOTE]That's some serious recon right there! Room rate, cleaning schedule, check-in info, parking info, and even which room is best for bondage! That is a damn impressive base of knowledge, thank you for that!

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4364838]That's some serious recon right there! Room rate, cleaning schedule, check-in info, parking info, and even which room is best for bondage! That is a damn impressive base of knowledge, thank you for that![/QUOTE]Need someone to do a video review.

[QUOTE=Camera3;4364163]At $27 for two hours, Geneva is your only choice. Rooms are cleaned between patron visits with clean sheets and towels. Several channels of porn on the flat screen TVs and the mattresses are less than two years old. I'd is not required. They do take down your license plate number. Parking is hidden from the street. Let's call it, rustic and clean. AC works in all rooms and many rooms have tie bars on the headboards. Room 20 is best for bondage, if that is your thing.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.[/QUOTE]Quality Info! Thank you all for the intel. Well be using soon. I'll make sure to get room 20. Hahahaha.

[QUOTE=HeWolf47;4360617]I have been wondering about the rate escalation. Anything above 100 for hh or 150 hr is more than I am willing to pay. I have contacted many peoviders who are asking for more, but when I tell them my max, many do come down to that rate. 150 beats the Hell out of nothing. A big reason this forum exists is to share info and IMHO it exists to keep the rates within reason.[/QUOTE]I keep pleading with folks to exercise some price discipline and help themselves out while helping us! In general, if NO ONE turns down your offer, you ARE overpaying. If you insist on tipping GREAT (not just good) service, PLEASE make the distinction of the tip and specifically what it was for, so they don't misunderstand the "going rate", because you tipped. I don't blame anyone for trying to get as much as they can for a service. But I DO blame us (me included) for overpaying and contributing to the recent price escalation.

And, BTW, tipping ahead of time definitely does NOT get you better service. If you luck out with a provider who does give great service, a tip afterward can improve the relationship. PLEASE don't pay up front. It incentivizes rip-offs and puts the pressure on all of the rest of us. Especially in MCO environs, there's MORE than enough for everyone at standard pricing and paying afterward. If someone walks, there's another one on the next corner!

HH, SS,

-SH.

[QUOTE=TheSwampHawk;4365065]I keep pleading with folks to exercise some price discipline and help themselves out while helping us! In general, if NO ONE turns down your offer, you ARE overpaying. If you insist on tipping GREAT (not just good) service, PLEASE make the distinction of the tip and specifically what it was for, so they don't misunderstand the "going rate", because you tipped. I don't blame anyone for trying to get as much as they can for a service. But I DO blame us (me included) for overpaying and contributing to the recent price escalation.

And, BTW, tipping ahead of time definitely does NOT get you better service. If you luck out with a provider who does give great service, a tip afterward can improve the relationship. PLEASE don't pay up front. It incentivizes rip-offs and puts the pressure on all of the rest of us. Especially in MCO environs, there's MORE than enough for everyone at standard pricing and paying afterward. If someone walks, there's another one on the next corner!

HH, SS,

-SH.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have said it better myself! WE are responsible for the continued rate increase and if WE don't start exercising control, it WILL get OUT OF CONTROL! I'm already seeing ads asking 100 qv, Even 100 car dates! Hell no!

Tighten up fellas! Pussy is pussy, don't get fooled into thinking it's better if you pay more. Negotiate and if they don't budge, MOVE ON!! There's too many options out there, don't settle.

Stay Fresh.

This is some funny ass shit. I love when clients post this shit.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.orlando.listcrawler.com/post/35426315/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BuckNastee;4366144]This is some funny ass. I love when clients post this.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.orlando.listcrawler.com/post/35426315/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure one of those pics was labia, but I'm not going back to look again.

Hello all,

Literally my first post because I'm super new to this, as in I have not seen a provider yet, I have a couple I've contacted to work out some details and then ghosted. I'm really just trying to be careful as I know most people on here are, I guess I'm just paranoid, but how can you really tell someone is legit and not a cop? I have a self proclaimed low volume provider I've contacted and she told me she couldn't meet and to text her in the morning, I obliged, then she told me she couldn't because she was moving but she'll be open all day Thursday and Friday. I really don't mind waiting, I just figured I would ask if that's pretty normal for someone who is a low volume provider. Plus, any tips for texting to avoid any kind of solicitation issues? She never talked about price or details, just the facts around us meeting. She's on the sister site and has 1 review from a senior member, but some other reviews from senior members who went crazy because of what she charges.

Sorry if this isn't the forum for this, I just need to be pointed in the right direction, I plan on seeing her tomorrow and I will post quickly after!

I appreciate all the posts you guys do, it helps me learn through the hobby.

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4364542]LMAO C3! Are you banging the cleaning lady or did you buy the place? How do you know how old the mattresses are? Hopefully you're not smelling them! Just giving you a hard time, LOL

SYM.[/QUOTE]I remember when they bought the new mattresses. Also remember when they bought the flat screens. I remember when the brothers' father died. And I remember when they banned Tyler for life. The first girl I ever met there was Gater. I shoulda bought stock in the company.

C3.

[QUOTE=Unnown31;4366655]Hello all,

Literally my first post because I'm super new to this, as in I have not seen a provider yet, I have a couple I've contacted to work out some details and then ghosted. I'm really just trying to be careful as I know most people on here are, I guess I'm just paranoid, but how can you really tell someone is legit and not a cop? I have a self proclaimed low volume provider I've contacted and she told me she couldn't meet and to text her in the morning, I obliged, then she told me she couldn't because she was moving but she'll be open all day Thursday and Friday. I really don't mind waiting, I just figured I would ask if that's pretty normal for someone who is a low volume provider. Plus, any tips for texting to avoid any kind of solicitation issues? She never talked about price or details, just the facts around us meeting. She's on the sister site and has 1 review from a senior member, but some other reviews from senior members who went crazy because of what she charges.

Sorry if this isn't the forum for this, I just need to be pointed in the right direction, I plan on seeing her tomorrow and I will post quickly after!

I appreciate all the posts you guys do, it helps me learn through the hobby.[/QUOTE]Go back to the Orlando page and scroll way down to the bottom. Find the thread called "Frequently Asked Questions. Read First" or something like that. Start at the end and move forward. You will find a wealth of information, true stories, humor and advice. It won't take a whole long time to read it all.

As for avoiding police issues, remember this. Most stings have you dead to rights before you ever show up for the date. What is illegal is talking about sex and money in the same conversation. Don't be stupid and talk about money and sex together. If a girl puts those two in the same conversation, like, "What do you want to do to me, honey, and what's it worth?” She is either a cop or dumb as a post. Either way, you don't want to see her.

Play safe,

C3.

Are. I. P to Butterfly Sara. Found out she passed a few months ago actually. Does anyone know why she was nick named butterfly?? Seen her 4 times in Clermont as she was the only reliable Clermont girl. All 4 great BBBJ. Are. I. P.

[QUOTE=BuckNastee;4366144]This is some funny ass shit. I love when clients post this shit.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.orlando.listcrawler.com/post/35426315/[/URL][/QUOTE]This is literally my biggest fear in this hobby, poor bastard.

[QUOTE=Camera3;4367181]I remember when they bought the new mattresses. Also remember when they bought the flat screens. I remember when the brothers' father died. And I remember when they banned Tyler for life. The first girl I ever met there was Gater. I shoulda bought stock in the company.

C3.[/QUOTE]The guy running it is so cool. Got introduced by Maitland Sara and have been back frequently.

I swear sometimes these chicks don't want our money. I know I'm not the only one but man you reach out the send back one response then get abducted by aliens.

[QUOTE=OdinsBeard78;4375265]I swear sometimes these chicks don't want our money. I know I'm not the only one but man you reach out the send back one response then get abducted by aliens.[/QUOTE]Nothing more aggravating than the occasional half assed responses from them. And I love finally getting the information and getting to the hotel and they don't respond.

[QUOTE=SCJames;4371548]The guy running it is so cool. Got introduced by Maitland Sara and have been back frequently.[/QUOTE]Actually, it is two brothers. One is cool and the other can be a real dick. He gets real pissy if you ring the doorbell when someone is already inside. But he still takes your money.

C3.

[QUOTE=TheReal84;4363827]What Motel do you recommend on the trail? Looking for something ok that doesn't break the bank for a few hours in the AM. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Like the others have said. Geneva is definitely your best option for the price. In a pinch, the Sands can be ok, just be prepared for the room to not be as clean as the Geneva. Also, the Sands is $28 for only one hour with a $10 dollar up charge for each additional hour. Happy Mongering and be safe!

[QUOTE=Trigg7272;4375629]Like the others have said. Geneva is definitely your best option for the price. In a pinch, the Sands can be ok, just be prepared for the room to not be as clean as the Geneva. Also, the Sands is $28 for only one hour with a $10 dollar up charge for each additional hour. Happy Mongering and be safe![/QUOTE]Why in the Sam Hill did Tyler do to get banned for life from the Geneva? That must have been a real fling-ding. If it is a big secret, could you PM me? I'm just curious. YD.

Some motels are worse than others and mattresses can be scary. Dig this review (not local but scary funny).

[URL]https://youtu.be/WQes0ug_yDc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Camera3;4367181]I remember when they bought the new mattresses. Also remember when they bought the flat screens. I remember when the brothers' father died. And I remember when they banned Tyler for life. The first girl I ever met there was Gater. I shoulda bought stock in the company.

C3.[/QUOTE]Sigh. I miss Gater.