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Legal Details
[QUOTE=B Malibu]
The article claims that the male customer was arrested and booked for "being in a house of ill-repute." That's a little unnerving!
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I agree. Can we get more legal info on this law so we can be prepared for it? Why didn't they bust the clients in their last raid on UH Chiro? Something fishy here.
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"The Anaheim business advertising itself as a tanning and hot towel salon was raided by Westminster Police on Friday. Police arrested a woman who they allege was running the location and also found two female employees and one male client. The client was arrested for being in a house of ill repute, [u]a misdemeanor[/u]." [/i]
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[QUOTE=Punter1]Article in today's OC Register, Anaheim parlor raided, Westminster woman arrested. Ad from Vietnamese newspaper quoted, ads in OCWeekly, Register and others mentioned.
Marsh's trafficking task force lauded.
Watch your six.
OCPunter[/QUOTE]Damn, I can't believe I walked into this trap on Sunday afternoon. Even more unbelievable that they were still open and staffed, and I could have had a session at #6 even though my application was rejected at #3 (story posted below).
I wrote to this OC Register columnist this morning to "discuss" the mythology that the vice cops put out regarding the extent of trafficking in storefront MPs, and taking her to task for operating as a mouth piece for Marsh without investigating any actual facts. Of course Detective Marsh gave her no facts pertinent to the standard allegations as the featured item in the column is a help wanted classified ad for massueses. So I suppose responding to those now makes you a trafficking victim in this twisted society we live in. Police work can be so dehumanizing!
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Huh?
Well it seems like they are mainly busting FS establishments and not the he only places. Also I am confused by Camel's report. You said you went this weekend but AC was busted Friday or earlier last week. Does that mean LE setting up shop there or what? I would appreciate any clarification.
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[QUOTE=Mokoboy]I agree. Can we get more legal info on this law so we can be prepared for it? Why didn't they bust the clients in their last raid on UH Chiro? Something fishy here.
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"The Anaheim business advertising itself as a tanning and hot towel salon was raided by Westminster Police on Friday. Police arrested a woman who they allege was running the location and also found two female employees and one male client. The client was arrested for being in a house of ill repute, [u]a misdemeanor[/u]." [/i][/QUOTE]
In the raid on UH, I the OCR report didn't indicate that any men were busted aside from one who was arrested on suspicion of pimping and pandering.
As far as being in a house of ill repute, Section 315 of the California Penal code states: "Every person who keeps a house of ill-fame in this state,
resorted to for the purposes of prostitution or lewdness, or who
willfully resides in such house, is guilty of a misdemeanor.."
I suppose depending upon how loosely this law is interpreted, one could argue that being present in a house of ill repute [even before it's been proven as such] some how equals residing, if even for an exceedingly short period. I'm probably off the mark here, but I've heard the 'present in a house of ill-fame' charge thrown around before. Anaheim might have its own local ordinance, but I haven't found one.
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I'm not an attorney...
[QUOTE=Broadjumper]In the raid on UH, I the OCR report didn't indicate that any men were busted aside from one who was arrested on suspicion of pimping and pandering.
As far as being in a house of ill repute, Section 315 of the California Penal code states: "Every person who keeps a house of ill-fame in this state,
resorted to for the purposes of prostitution or lewdness, or who
willfully resides in such house, is guilty of a misdemeanor.."
I suppose depending upon how loosely this law is interpreted, one could argue that being present in a house of ill repute [even before it's been proven as such] some how equals residing, if even for an exceedingly short period. I'm probably off the mark here, but I've heard the 'present in a house of ill-fame' charge thrown around before. Anaheim might have its own local ordinance, but I haven't found one.[/QUOTE]
I guess it was just odd to hear that a customer was arrested. In almost every story we read about, most customers are questioned and then released. Only time I've ever heard of a customer getting arrested is when the authorities set up shop for the day and bring in decoy providers. In this instance, it's obvious why a guy would be arrested.
I dunno... the dude probably admitted he was there for sexual services instead of just telling LE he was there for "hot towel therapy.". Hmm uumm hmmm uumm...
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Animal Hosptial #6 Ac#6
The LEO had all the informed consent directly from this web site. Now there goes a damn good provider.
Next time you should keep this info off the public page and go PM!
I hate that!
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VietAct
It is interesting that the VietAct has expanded their definition of human trafficking to those girls that feel helpless:
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That is, until she interviewed several women working at an alleged brothel in Garden Grove. Tran, now a district director for State Sen. Lou Correa, D-Santa Ana, realized most of the women she spoke with had one thing in common – they'd answered a classified ad seeking massage therapists, no license necessary.
"These women believe that they have no other options or alternatives, that there's nobody out there to help, and that that's the only thing they can do," says Tran, 28, on why trafficking victims wind up working, seemingly voluntarily, in brothels.
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I wonder if the task force is taking a similar approach? I drove by a couple of times, but it looked like a bust waiting to happen, with them approaching cars and stuff like that.
When I did, I saw girls getting out of cars, nice ones, Mercedes SUV or late model Lexus. I thing all these girls were just looking for options on their expensive car payments.
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#6
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]This isn't really directed at any one person, but don't be so naive to think that this forum or any other website had much if anything to do with the possible demise of ac#6.
The girls would approach vehicles as they parked, come on, that is practically asking for an problem.
No doubt, someone from one of the neighboring suites complained, LE investigated and took care of the perceived issue.[/QUOTE]Here is the link guys to # 6
[url]http://www.ocregister.com/articles/ads-trafficking-human-2604955-massage-women[/url]
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This what happens when you have more than one mp in the same location. They accuse each other of poaching and then start going outside to meet the customers and then become too visible. New customers walking around a looking a little clueless are fair game. The neighbors complain and there is a bust. I wouldn't be surprised if a competitor didn't drop a dime on them either. Police know of tons of places the could bust, but often don't act until they receive a complaint.
And although I have seen reports on TV that mention sites like USASG, I have never heard of it being the reason for a bust as often as they mention the newspaper or Craigslist. Too sketchy to rely on a bragging monger when there are so many targets that are advertising their business...
I'll believe the human trafficking argument when they finally convict someone of it. And when that conviction occurs, it will be in all the papers. Just an excuse for fed money. It is a simple choice of risk/reward.
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]It is interesting that the VietAct has expanded their definition of human trafficking to those girls that feel helpless...[snip]...
I wonder if the task force is taking a similar approach? I drove by a couple of times, but it looked like a bust waiting to happen, with them approaching cars and stuff like that.
When I did, I saw girls getting out of cars, nice ones, Mercedes SUV or late model Lexus. I thing all these girls were just looking for options on their expensive car payments.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Paytoplay88]Does anyone know if there is anything good at a little medical strip on Broadway between Euclid and Loara? I was driving by and saw an Accupressure sign so I cruised the lot. It looked like it would be an place most of the guys here would patronize. There were three accupressure/acupuncture places there. Unfortunately I was pressed for time. Anyone know for sure, or will I have to TOFTT?[/QUOTE]Not that I know of. Years ago there were a few good places in that complex. When you first drive in the one to the left with the foot in the window use to be great. But it change into the one it is now. On the other side of the complex I am not sure the # it also use to be a cool place. It was closed for along time then reopened and I tried it about a month ago. All I got was a massage. Maybe I just went on an off day, thats all I know about the places.
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Hello OC
Hello fellow mongers. Just wanted to drop by and see how are things on the board. It's been a long hiatus for me since I moved to Denver over 2 years ago. I pretty much retired from the scene in Denver since it's pretty crappy. Both AMPs and SW scene really suck over there. The only decent thing I found over there was a single mom who gave a good PSE BBBJ in her appartment - she was out of shape so it was a bit of a turnoff. However, her skills made up for the lack of good looks.
I'm in OC for a quick two night business trip (tonight is my last night). I don't see much going on other than discussion on the AMP that was shut down and is all over the OCR.
I guess I'm going to have to try my luck with the SWs - that's if Harbor has any left? When I left OC the SW scene was dying. My last experience was with the then booming Condo Ops in Irvine. You know the ones with the flat rate and straight to business. I used to find them frequently in the OCR.
If I don't find anything down Harbor I might have to pickup the OCR and start making some calls. I'm in Irvine, so if I'm lucky I find something just around the corner. I really miss this place and all the good info I used to trade with some good fellow mongers.
Oh yeah I forgot I was here a year ago, but tried my luck at GSE in City of Industry. Years ago I had one of the best trophy-like PSE there, but nothing like that last year.
Happy mongering my friends!
Beer Guzzler
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Cops reasoning
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]It is interesting that the VietAct has expanded their definition of human trafficking to those girls that feel helpless:
clip from ocreg:
That is, until she interviewed several women working at an alleged brothel in Garden Grove. Tran, now a district director for State Sen. Lou Correa, D-Santa Ana, realized most of the women she spoke with had one thing in common – they'd answered a classified ad seeking massage therapists, no license necessary.
"These women believe that they have no other options or alternatives, that there's nobody out there to help, and that that's the only thing they can do," says Tran, 28, on why trafficking victims wind up working, seemingly voluntarily, in brothels.
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I wonder if the task force is taking a similar approach? I drove by a couple of times, but it looked like a bust waiting to happen, with them approaching cars and stuff like that.
When I did, I saw girls getting out of cars, nice ones, Mercedes SUV or late model Lexus. I thing all these girls were just looking for options on their expensive car payments.[/QUOTE]
The job security for any special branch (vice, etc) of LE lies in the busts that they make. No busts, no need for the department expenditures. So they convince themselves that the girls are held hostage to work at these places. In my view I think this is a rare exception. Most of the girls are supporting an expensive lifestyle at their discretion. Then when they get busted they play the helpless card (as anyone in trouble would) to get their problem minimized. My 2 cents.
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Mile Sq Park
So, I decided to stop by the Mile Square park place near the dentist, around 9pm last night.
Well at first when I met the girl she was sitting behind hte window and I thought the v-girl looked pretty fun, id say late 20's nice teets and cute face. It was 60 per hr.
So when she goes around to open the door for me and lead me into the rooms I notice that she is wearing a pretty baggy top and some extremely short shorts, but I knew something was up with that top.
Upon getting into the room which by the way doesn't have walls that go all the way up I undress and lay down face up with no towel. The window girl comes in and immidiately strips down, and this is when I notice she is preggo.
Well this is something that diddnt sit all too well with me, and I decided to pull out the exit strategy, I just told her that I wanted someone else less preggo, but she was the only one working so I decided to give it a try. She then gave me a cjb then got on top of me, but the site of the baby belly just killed my mood so I decided to just call it a night, and tipped her $.60 which she seemed to be ok with since I diddnt really have a good time.
Anyhow I guess I'll try that place agian later, and hopefully it won't be a repear exp.
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E-lid & L-son
Well upon advice of my novice freidn that told me to check out the hot girls at this place I decided to go.
I was Monday or tues night of last week around 730pm I decided to take an hr, but the mson said that 1/2 was good and I would be happy. I thought this was odd since I figure most places would want the higher price door fee, but judging by the front door bell ringing I think this place is going for volume LOL.
So I get into the room and undress and hop on the table. Face up of course. In comes this little vgirl id say around mid to late 20's. Super lean with some black lycra type pants on with a tank top and a white physican coat on.
So I figure this is not going to go well being that her massage liscense was clipped to this jacket and her telling me to turn over.
Well as her hands glided across my back to the lower part of my ass I decided to push my member down between my legs to let her know what was up. After doing this she decides to rub my balls and tickle the head of my cock. Well after brushing agaist me a few times she tells me to turn over so I do so and "accidentally" drop the towl. Well sitting there at full mast she signals to me for a BJ, and I say I wanted FS. She tells me no FS, but she would do BJ for $1. I felt this was a little steep but the other brain was thinking so I say ok. Then she starts what I thought was a BBBJ but when I looked down after about 15 seconds I see that she already had me wrapped! Talk about skill!
Anyhow after about 5-7 mins of BJ and me grabbing he tight ass I blow my load and she keeps going through the condom until my last convulsion.
All and all id say it was a good trip, total was 40+$
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2am place on DT SA
Last report for the night.
So after feeling a little frisky after midnight I decided to stop by the famous 2am place in DT SA.
Well I get there and notice a few odd things, namely some lady outside burning stuff. Anyhow onward my little brain tells me
So I go inside from the back door and see some asian guy working the counter I tell him I want an hour and he asks if I like asian I said of course the younger the better.
I get led into a room which by the way has all tile floors and the table pushed all the way agianst the wall I settle in (face up of course LOL) and await my fate. And in comes a asian girl V I think that is prob under 5" and weighs 95 id say. After some short conversations she tells me she is 19
Well she proceeds with a light touch massage, which makes me very very happy, and I do some boner arobics and make my towel fall off. She comments on how she likes to see my move and how "yummy" it looks fully shaved. I tell her that she is the yummy one and let my hands roam all over her top and get a good feeling of her A cups.
This is where it gets weird, after about 15 mins of this light touch she walks out and comes back in with some hot towels where she decides to vigoursly clean my junk with them. Well the heat kinda threw me off an I lost it for a bit, and she says "oh I don't make you happy anymore" well she gets right back to the light touch around the boys and gets her face really close, I mean close enough for me to feel her breath and I'm good agian. I signal to her the universal sign of "lets fuck" with the finger gestures and she says that she can't do that here. So I'm like WTF? !
Well she tells me if I want to touch my self she would like to watch so at this point I'm thinking what the hell, I came here for a reason so I might as well give this little V girls a show, so I decide to stroke a few times. Well after about 5 pumps I tell her I'm tired and I want her to help me now, so she does something that I have never had done to me before. She pours a ton of oil on my junk then she wrapps my cock in the inside of her elbow and proceeds to "nestle" my junk. This actually felt extremely good and I made me cum within a few mins. She then cleans me off then disapears for another few mins and comes back with more clean towels, then she cleans me up making me hard agian in the process. Well the light touch continues for another 15 mins or so then she says to me its almost time to go and tells me to play with myself agian before time runs out.
Well I figure what the hell so this time she sits on my lap fully clothed while I reach around and jerked myself off, but right before I cum I tell her and she gets off and watches me cum, after wards she cleans me up while having her face close enough once agian to feel her breath.
Welp that was an interesting experiance that I would like to try again.