Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=VAmongerman;3472124]I have shared her info with a few folks. Reluctant to publicly post her contact info. But I am really surprised by this report. All I can say is YMMV but I do agree she is focused on making money. However, not to the extent of being a ripoff she isn't that. I paid $. 8 too but I dreamed of more. Maybe she just liked me who knows. She has been texting me to return LOL.[/QUOTE]Please PM the details.

Also I dreamt of going back to Him or Her Spa and this time I drew Isabella. She was very talkative and her massage was fantastic. But the ST was amazing. She has me rock solid in no time and she started talking dirty to me. OMG her sexy voice was amazing as she continued to relax me for 20 minutes. Afterwards, I sat in the room talking to her for over 30 minutes. She was amazing!

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[QUOTE=Brandonn1233;3479673]I'm looking for a standard nova finish I moved from dfw texas and they were everywhere. They only charged 40-60 $ out here it seems they want 6 for house fee is cheapest and 4 for tip. Anyone can give me recommends for a decent all around place he almoat guaranteed decent looking girls and fair price will greatly appreciate it.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3958-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3466671#post3466671[/URL]

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[QUOTE=NeRomancer;3469027]After overdoing it with the gym and hiking back-to-back I was genuinely in pain. After exploring around a bit I just could not get a legitimate appointment anytime soon. I went to GR**P*and and I saw this place advertised a Vichy Shower and Massage for. 8 When I called the place the woman really did not understand that I was trying to claim a voucher so she told me that should give me both a full body and shower for. 7 I just returned my. 8 and drove that evening to FF Massage in Manassas. I was a bit confused as there is another location near Dulles. When I got there I spoke to the front desk woman and then another younger girl probably in her late 20's or early 30's took me to the room. She barely spoke any english so, our conversation was one-two-three word phrases. I got underdressed and she asked me "soft, medium, hard" I chose hard and boy did she give me a great massage. Initially, she laid a towel on me and proceeded to massage with it but as we went on she hinted at touching my skin and uncovered more gradually while she continued massaging. Eventually the towel came off and then she stared oiling me up and giving more of the great massage. On the flip she oiled me up and slowly approached but not touching. Then she led my hand and motioned me to finish. I asked and tried taking her hand but she refused. So after I finished- she cleaned me off and we headed to the shower. Never having a shower I did not know what to expect so I was surprised on her thoroughness. I spend about 1:15 min there and I gave her. 3 tip. She had a cup of water waiting for me before I left. Overall, my muscles were jello and my pains immediately gone. I got out of her that there are only two girls at this location and her name was Jin.[/QUOTE]Just a few observations since you said this was your 1st AMP experience. Generally I've found that places using Groupon to attract new customers are almost always legit. There are occasional exceptions but, IME, that's usually the case. AMPs that offer extras tend to get enough business through regular advertising channels, like BP. And if they run a special on their own they don't have to split the $ with Groupon.

Also, many legit asian masseuses have a very relaxed attitude toward nudity. They will start the session using a towel as they get the muscles loosened up and then, when they switch to massage oil or cream, it's not unusual for the towel to get pulled down or tossed to the side. I mention this because if that happens it shouldn't be taken as an indication that any extras will be offered. The towel usually goes back on when you flip and, if they understand you're looking for a finish, some legit masseuses will allow self-service by the client but many will not and they might be surprised or even offended if you push the issue.

For some legit places, IF you become a regular customer, and IF the masseuse likes you, she might decide to participate more actively. OTOH, you could visit multiple times and get nothing more than the exact same experience. So my suggestion is to repeat only if you really like the massage as anything more is a crapshoot. For AMPs that reliably offer extras, just RTFF or do a search for names and areas of interest.

Went to two of the AMPs on main street. First one is closest to the Dominos. 40 something, flat chested / flat butt. Good attitude. Roaming. Unfortunately, she asked that I finish my self and while she had a vice grip on my jewels which lowered standard TIP. Damage 60/35. Four blocks down. In Medical office building. 30 something Provider. Cute. Bad vibes that was going to be legit. A little roaming, I removed towel. She was not happy about that. Argued about towel. Otherwise legit. 45/20.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3464999]For mongers who live close enough to PG County to make the trip without too much trouble, that's certainly an option. But many live in parts of NOVA where it's just not worth the time and effort to make that trek.

Besides, visiting a FS AMP in PG County will generally set you back 80 for the house fee and 100-120 for the tip. For that you hope to receive an average-to-good massage (maybe 30 minutes worth) and the same quality of extras. If you have good intel, or if you've visited enough to warrant a little special treatment, you might be fortunate enough to get a GFE or near-GFE session.

But in NOVA I can get an outstanding legit massage for 50-60 for a full hour. Then I can visit a GFE or near-GFE provider for 100-140 for 30 minutes. So I can get 90 minutes of enjoyment, instead of just 60 minutes, for about the same or even less $. And taking that option means I don't have to spend time in traffic to and from PG County. Another advantage is that I can visit whenever I want, even if I only have a small window of opportunity.

To each their own, of course. Just wanted to make the point that the value proposition of PGC vs NOVA is not black and white and depends on several variables.[/QUOTE]With TCCC / FCCC closed for biz, GFE / FS is very very hard to come by in NOVA AMPs. Or ridiculously expensive. Was quoted 270 at an Herndon Elden St AMP a few months back. If you are talking about providers who are independent that's not an AMP dude.

I just left Angels very disappointed. This place has always to me had higher then nova standards regarding younger girls that look good, well I guess the nova cursed has reached them.

I have been busy blowing money with SA and not doing the AMP scene so it's been awhile, but trying to save money I went back to the AMP's hoping for good times. I have been reading this forum like crazy trying to find a good place, but with most posters talking in such code and secrecy I had really no idea what I would find.

Enough with my rant crap and on to my dream! I went inside and was met by a kind older woman who demanded the money at the entrance. I asked her who was working and she said Cindy, I don't know who Cindy is, but at least it's not this kind older woman.

I get to the room and strip down, In comes my provided the kindly old grandma I met at the entrance who collected my money. I was already naked! I was stuck and I told her my shoulders need work. I was disappointed but figure let me get my shoulders worked on with a HE and I'll be out.

She completely ignored my request and only did the light finger touch and went right for me balls. Yes of course it felt nice, but not what I needed first. I tried to make small talk and found out her name is Lisa, she is pushing 60 and has no boobs or ass. On the flip I was so not interested that I had to spice things up to get excited. I asked her about an expanded menu and I request blow by blow account of her day so far. She held out her hand and said how much. I was thinking honestly if I met you outside I wouldn't let you blow me for free, but since I was in the moment I offered her (75). She bulked at that and I was like (100) shaking her head that was too cheap. I said well next time I'll just bring more and had to really close my eyes and imagine someone else just to blow my nose.

Got dressed and was asked about the tip with hand out. I pointed behind me the tip was on the table. I guess on a day off I'll need to take a trip to Pg to see any talent. What I don't understand is this, Northern Virginia is loaded with money. If you had a AMP with young hot girls like back in the old days those places and girls would be making good money. We have AMPs and know lots of rules with the county, but if places would get younger talent and stop recruiting from nursing homes we would all be a lot better.

[QUOTE=CurtisMorris;3480616]Please PM the details.

Also I dreamt of going back to Him or Her Spa and this time I drew Isabella. She was very talkative and her massage was fantastic. But the ST was amazing. She has me rock solid in no time and she started talking dirty to me. OMG her sexy voice was amazing as she continued to relax me for 20 minutes. Afterwards, I sat in the room talking to her for over 30 minutes. She was amazing![/QUOTE]Who or what is the "Him or Her Spa"?

Watta confusion!

I'm a little disappointed writing this, but hate to report that my regulars at AT are gone and new ladies are in. Anywho, on to my dream. This time around, I dreamed that Lisa opened the door, greeted me with a smile and escorted me to the room. Asked for the duration, responded with a full hour, handed $ and was never given anything back (shouldve gotted. 2 back). Step into the room, ask for my. 2 , gives me a cute smile and says that's for tip later. I figured, okay. Well this should be interesting.

Remember, I had asked for a full hour. TS was lackluster, borderline rushed, back on to table, massage was awful, and asks me to turn around within 30 min of session. I'm still seeing this dream half full and thinking, well maybe she wants to get into the extracurriculars. Gets undressed, rushes the finish, midway stops and reminds me that I'm to take care of her, and at that point I'm speechless. Finish the job, I slid. 4 under my pillow looking to leave and never come back, she stops me on my way out and schools me that my tip was bad and she expected more (total of 1. 6).

Anywho, unless I read more positive reviews, I'm unlikely to go there again.

[QUOTE=GuidoForLife;3483385]With TCCC / FCCC closed for biz, GFE / FS is very very hard to come by in NOVA AMPs. Or ridiculously expensive. Was quoted 270 at an Herndon Elden St AMP a few months back. If you are talking about providers who are independent that's not an AMP dude.[/QUOTE]You either misread my post or I wasn't clear enough. My massage reference was for legit-only massage at 50-60 per hour. My GFE or near-GFE reference was for indie providers.

What I thought was clear throughout in my post was that I think FS AMPs are not a good value. So I'm not quite sure why you think I would recommend following up a legit AMP session with one at a FS AMP.

But, for the sake of clarity, indie FS providers are generally a better value than AMP girls, IMHO. And that's especially true when you factor in the time and hassle involved in making the drive to PG County and back.

[QUOTE=GuidoForLife;3483373]Went to two of the AMPs on main street. First one is closest to the Dominos. 40 something, flat chested / flat butt. Good attitude. Roaming. Unfortunately, she asked that I finish my self and while she had a vice grip on my jewels which lowered standard TIP. Damage 60/35. Four blocks down. In Medical office building. 30 something Provider. Cute. Bad vibes that was going to be legit. A little roaming, I removed towel. She was not happy about that. Argued about towel. Otherwise legit. 45/20.[/QUOTE]You are unlikely to find much if anything worthwhile in the way of extracurriculars within the confines of the City of Fairfax. My guess is that the police and court presence makes it a no-man's land.

Doing Reston today and yesterday. Had two hours to kill both days. Visited two pathetic AMPs.

1. Euphoria across from Reston gold course. Provider gave the worst massage I have ever received. She was incredibly weak. No make up late 30's. Hair pulled back. Frumpy look. Gave up and said light massage. Which is the key trigger word for get to business down there. She refused to allow me to flip over. WTF. This is not acceptable. After arguing with her. Told her get lost. Then told Mamasan she not advertise on BP and Craigslist with bogus ads. Damage: $40 for 20 minutes.

2. Today, Zenith Massage AMP right behind what used to be Fudruckers. Did 4 Hands. Advertise on BP. Again no standard finish. Gave me attitude when I asked how much longer. She said. We are done. I said. Nice try. 10 more minutes left. Both were Grannys. Late 50's. Offered a Cnote+ 20 tip for mouth and hand action. Said we don't do that. These AMPs that advertise on BP, need to be ignored and put out of business that do not offer standard finish. Gave both 20 tip since that is what they provided. Both started to argue, told them again. You should not be in business. Service equal to mall pedicure. Not an erotic massage.

RTC and Herndon massage were both good at one point. Will hit up both next week. Happy Hunting.

I'm tired of these old leather jackets working in Nova AMPs. I'm on strike, who's with me?

Stopped by blusky in manassas the other day and got Tina as my provider. Although she looks like coco from m angels in ffx

I found her to be ok, massage was ok nothing special.

There is no shower there so no preamble to the massage. Session kept getting interupted either by phone or walkins as she was the only on on duty. Eveytime after the interuption she would say "sorry sir" and I would checkle to myself and think well she would is very polite. I think she called me sir about 10 times.

Main event was ok but not very accomodating nothing more than standard nova.

Curious if anyone else has come accross her and what your experience has been. PM are ok.

Looks 6/10, skills 6/10, accomodation 1/10, politness 10/10.

Left standar tip and got a smile from her.

Cheers.

Rub.

[QUOTE=JimRob;3485427]I'm tired of these old leather jackets working in Nova AMPs. I'm on strike, who's with me?[/QUOTE]There are no good AMPs, there are no bad AMPs. There are only good or bad providers.

I have 3 or 4 AMPs where I've visited enough times to know who gives the best massage and finish. For most of these women I've established enough good chemistry for them to trust me with their personal digits. That allows me to text them to see if they're working and have time available. If they say yes then I call the main number and specifically request an appointment with that provider and I tell the MMS when I will arrive. If I'm delayed for any reason, I call the MMS right away to let her know. If she tells me there are other customers waiting then I either reschedule or tell her I'll come another day.

But the bottom line is that I almost never walk into an AMP without knowing exactly who I'm going to see. And if I've done my job of being a good client then they're always happy to see me. To be sure, this approach works best when you avoid the busiest times. If you think about it, even the best restaurant can have issues with the service and quality of food in the middle of the dinner rush. This approach is also only effective if you've taken the time to do some advance work and research.

Clients who walk in cold are essentially rolling the dice with a hope and a prayer. Sometimes those dice roll in your favor and sometimes they don't. I've always been a big believer in working the game such that the odds are firmly in my favor. It takes a little extra time and effort, but well worth it, IMHO.

[QUOTE=GuidoForLife;3485028]Doing Reston today and yesterday. Had two hours to kill both days. Visited two pathetic AMPs.

1. Euphoria across from Reston gold course. Provider gave the worst massage I have ever received. She was incredibly weak. No make up late 30's. Hair pulled back. Frumpy look. Gave up and said light massage. Which is the key trigger word for get to business down there. She refused to allow me to flip over. WTF. This is not acceptable. After arguing with her. Told her get lost. Then told Mamasan she not advertise on BP and Craigslist with bogus ads. Damage: $40 for 20 minutes.

2. Today, Zenith Massage AMP right behind what used to be Fudruckers. Did 4 Hands. Advertise on BP. Again no standard finish. Gave me attitude when I asked how much longer. She said. We are done. I said. Nice try. 10 more minutes left. Both were Grannys. Late 50's. Offered a Cnote+ 20 tip for mouth and hand action. Said we don't do that. These AMPs that advertise on BP, need to be ignored and put out of business that do not offer standard finish. Gave both 20 tip since that is what they provided. Both started to argue, told them again. You should not be in business. Service equal to mall pedicure. Not an erotic massage.

RTC and Herndon massage were both good at one point. Will hit up both next week. Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]Both Craigslist and Backpage have only therapeutic massage sections. The bodyrub section no longer exists. That means that AMPs offering extras are actually the exception, not the rule. To say that any AMP advertising on BP should be put out of business if they don't offer a finish not only ignores reality but is also an affront to the right of legit massage places to earn a living.

So, unless you've previously visited a specific spa, AND previously received extras from a specific provider, then you're the one making assumptions about what services they provide. Also, unless you have that prior experience, your "trigger word" may only have that meaning in your own mind. If you then try to insist on extras when they're not being offered, you run the risk of turning into one of those pushy and obnoxious individuals who give clients a bad name.

Finally, am I understanding you correctly that you walked into one AMP, booked a 4-hand massage and then hit them up for an oral finish? Seriously? That's like walking into a restaurant you've never tried before, ordering the most expensive item on the menu and then complaining because you don't receive something additional that was never on the menu and was never offered. Don't know if you've had much success in the past with that approach but I think it's safe to say you rolled the dice twice and came away with no joy.

I'm guessing his point is that these AMP's place add with girls almost naked in seductive poses. I do consider if false advertising. A place in Fairfax called Far East does that. I even open my phone to show them the add and called them bait and switch. You can't be legit and give the allusion that you're also a HE joint.

[QUOTE=JimRob;3485606]I'm guessing his point is that these AMP's place add with girls almost naked in seductive poses. I do consider if false advertising. A place in Fairfax called Far East does that. I even open my phone to show them the add and called them bait and switch. You can't be legit and give the allusion that you're also a HE joint.[/QUOTE]If putting a sexy girl in a bikini in an ad is a guarantee of extras, then I should be getting a HJ whenever I buy a car or any number of other products. I guess we could always contact the FTC and complain that we're not getting our extras. And while we're at it we can also ask for more variety in those God-awful music tracks!

All kidding aside, BP is a 100% buyer beware environment. My approach to the ads is that I don't believe any of it (zero, zip, nada) unless and until I've confirmed it for myself. It's all a crapshoot and only by learning how to play the game can we avoid getting burned. And one of the best uses for this forum is to share good info to help us beat the odds.

[QUOTE=RubMeLongTime;3485516]Stopped by blusky in manassas the other day and got Tina as my provider. Although she looks like coco from m angels in ffx

I found her to be ok, massage was ok nothing special.

There is no shower there so no preamble to the massage. Session kept getting interupted either by phone or walkins as she was the only on on duty. Eveytime after the interuption she would say "sorry sir" and I would checkle to myself and think well she would is very polite. I think she called me sir about 10 times.

Main event was ok but not very accomodating nothing more than standard nova.

Curious if anyone else has come accross her and what your experience has been. PM are ok.

Looks 6/10, skills 6/10, accomodation 1/10, politness 10/10.

Left standar tip and got a smile from her.

Cheers.

Rub.[/QUOTE]If this was a new place that just reopened near the hospital?

I get your point about bikini girls in adds. It's like seeing an add for a chevy for sale and you go to the dealership and they only sell bikes. They know what they're doing with those misleading adds. If I see an add for any AMP that has pics of candles, hot stones and maybe a generic add with someone getting a legit massage, but some of these adds look like the old phone sex numbers.

The add could say new young wet sluts to rub you all over all naked! You get to the AMP and it's a grandma that's so dry.

My back has been hurting for a couple of days. So I went to a legit massage therapist to hold me over until my next Chiropractor appointment next week.

Making an appointment was easy on their website. I used a coupon from a site called www. Localflavor. $45 for an hour of Thai massage.

I got Kit, who is a 50 something, unattractive provider. But who is excellent at her job. For those of you who have never had a Thai massage, it's a mixture of stretching, pressure, and accu-pressure. I asked for it to be deep and this woman had some of the strongest hands I've ever felt. It included the stretching and pressure as I noted before. She also had a walker in the room and did some nice back walking, including on my legs and butt. Session starts with a hot tea and foot bath. Ends with a hot tea as well.

I know it's not what everyone is looking for. But sometimes you just want a good deep massage, and this is a good place for it. I left her a $20 tip and was just slightly disappointed that the young hottie working the front desk wasn't my therapist!

[URL]http://www.chaanthaimassage.com/[/URL]

Still no luck on finding somewhere I will take the dive into this. I'm not looking for anything behind a HE for my first time visiting an AMP in the NOVA area. But I'm just not seeing any place that jumps out at me enough. It feels like I'm taking a risk and I'm not into that. If anyone could PM me some places to try I would greatly appriciate it. I want my first experience to be a good one. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Watta;3483530]Who or what is the "Him or Her Spa"?

Watta confusion![/QUOTE]Try searching "For Him or Her Spa" and you may be able to tell what it is.

Newbees:

Seems some have no luck and others have it all. Is it where you go? Or how you go in and act? I think attitude and smile and friendlyness go a long way. When you meet anyone. Be aware of how you are perceived.

My problem is as some said you can't get good massage in a HE place. But I have gone to several legit places and it turns into a HE by the time I leave. They are by that time joking and laughing and enjoying themselves. Problem is next time I can't get a serious massage the next time. I have heatd them say most vlients are serious and stern and uptight. . So they react that way.

Just visit a place and say hi, you want a card and what is pricing for when you have more time. If they give you a card and pricing and are not soliciting and friendly like trying to get you to stay for a massage, leave. If they seem friendly, smile a joke with them back, give them a hug, a pat on the tush (LE check) and if they rerurn the friendlyness, you are in for a good time. Be a little forward over friendly in a nice way.

If you are new and really nervous, tell them you are new and ask for help. Being touchy feely along the way. Reality is they know the game, why you are there and if they are going to play, they will help. Most are nice real people. If you get bad vibes leave before you pay. . and they might come after you with a hand in your crotch and say. I make you happy baby!

Remember, There are all types out there. Be nice, smile, polite, friendly and then if you get bad vibes, say goodbye and turn an go.

Good luck.

Happy Guy 2.

Is it true Angel has lost it's great touch? Have not been there in 6 months and it used to be very nice.

Is Coco there? (The ultimate).

Wendy?

Jenny, Cindy, May, Candy?

Please PM me anything not appropriate to publish publically.

Thanks,

Happy Guy 2.

[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;3488382]Is it true Angel has lost it's great touch? Have not been there in 6 months and it used to be very nice.

Is Coco there? (The ultimate).

Wendy?

Jenny, Cindy, May, Candy?

Please PM me anything not appropriate to publish publically.

Thanks,

Happy Guy 2.[/QUOTE]Jenny is not working there anymore. Just checked in yesterday.

There is new girl named kelly for few days, she is a winner but eventually she left as well.

The last time I visited there are only two Cindy and Lisa (I don't know if I'm spelling it right).

Thanks,

AP.

Does anyone have any info on Edsall Therapy. It used to be NSP and a great place to visit. I know it changed management and style. But now I see more advertisements for them. If any trusted members can PM me with any experiences in recent times. How I miss the little dog mascot.

HD 29.

[QUOTE=Brandonn1233;3487628]Still no luck on finding somewhere I will take the dive into this. I'm not looking for anything behind a HE for my first time visiting an AMP in the NOVA area. But I'm just not seeing any place that jumps out at me enough. It feels like I'm taking a risk and I'm not into that. If anyone could PM me some places to try I would greatly appriciate it. I want my first experience to be a good one. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You have two posts and in both of them you've asked essentially the same question. As much as everyone would like shortcuts in the hobby, there simply are none. The same advice that's served in years past is still the best way forward.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3958-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3481198&viewfull=1#post3481198[/URL]

If you've taken the time to read back through dozens or scores of pages in this forum, there's no way you could have missed the many reports of AMP experiences, both good and bad. If that's the case, then it's up to you to gather up a mixture of dollars and cojones and make the leap. Also, if you're waiting for a "sure thing" I think most mongers would agree with me that there's no such animal in the hobby. BTW, if taking a (reasonable) risk is not your thing, you might think about embarking on a different path. This is all one big casino. Some games have better odds, some worse. Some players are more skilled (or lucky) and others will lose the shirt off their back. But, no matter who the player or what the game, there are no risk-free rolls.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3488966]You have two posts and in both of them you've asked essentially the same question. As much as everyone would like shortcuts in the hobby, there simply are none. The same advice that's served in years past is still the best way forward.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3958-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3481198&viewfull=1#post3481198[/URL]

If you've taken the time to read back through dozens or scores of pages in this forum, there's no way you could have missed the many reports of AMP experiences, both good and bad. If that's the case, then it's up to you to gather up a mixture of dollars and cojones and make the leap. Also, if you're waiting for a "sure thing" I think most mongers would agree with me that there's no such animal in the hobby. BTW, if taking a (reasonable) risk is not your thing, you might think about embarking on a different path. This is all one big casino. Some games have better odds, some worse. Some players are more skilled (or lucky) and others will lose the shirt off their back. But, no matter who the player or what the game, there are no risk-free rolls.[/QUOTE]Those of us who started before the internet had no web sites, even email lists to rely on. In the LA area, I kept passing an "asian spa" on the way home from work. Stopped in one time (I was probably 22) and came across the world of AMP's. Early on. Didn't know much about tipping, how to ask, what to ask, but the gals helped me up my game. Then later came some internet Bulletin boards and we exchanged information. There was even a mongering group who would meet at a bar on occasion. I was surprised to find a high school classmate at one of those once. Funny later I was at a friends house and both of us were there with our wives - greetings sort of involved an added wink. Anyway, as JS said, you have so much more information than most of us had, go for it! No worries. Worst case usually you'll get a good massage. If so, tip the usual 15 - 20% of the price of the massage. If you get more, you can figure out how much based on reading this forum.

[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills;3489024]Those of us who started before the internet had no web sites, even email lists to rely on. In the LA area, I kept passing an "asian spa" on the way home from work. Stopped in one time (I was probably 22) and came across the world of AMP's. Early on. Didn't know much about tipping, how to ask, what to ask, but the gals helped me up my game. Then later came some internet Bulletin boards and we exchanged information. There was even a mongering group who would meet at a bar on occasion. I was surprised to find a high school classmate at one of those once. Funny later I was at a friends house and both of us were there with our wives - greetings sort of involved an added wink. Anyway, as JS said, you have so much more information than most of us had, go for it! No worries. Worst case usually you'll get a good massage. If so, tip the usual 15 - 20% of the price of the massage. If you get more, you can figure out how much based on reading this forum.[/QUOTE]I was stationed at the pentagon and would venture into DC for the night clubs. Walked into a place in a basement that had neon sign that said massage. I had not clue there would be extras, but after spending years abroad I had a hunch. Turns out there were options all the way up the menu and I started looking for those neon signs everywhere I went.

Take one for the team? There was no team! I took risks and made my own personal journal of places and faces. I am glad now that there is the Internet and forums. I must have spent a year or more salary toftt before I got onto the web just a few short years ago. Funny I still toftt now too. I still look for neon signs and try them out everywhere I travel. I do cross reference rub maps and this board but if nothing is written I still try. Worse case scenario I get my old back and legs worked out.

[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills;3489024]Those of us who started before the internet had no web sites, even email lists to rely on. In the LA area, I kept passing an "asian spa" on the way home from work. Stopped in one time (I was probably 22) and came across the world of AMP's. Early on. Didn't know much about tipping, how to ask, what to ask, but the gals helped me up my game. Then later came some internet Bulletin boards and we exchanged information. There was even a mongering group who would meet at a bar on occasion. I was surprised to find a high school classmate at one of those once. Funny later I was at a friends house and both of us were there with our wives - greetings sort of involved an added wink. Anyway, as JS said, you have so much more information than most of us had, go for it! No worries. Worst case usually you'll get a good massage. If so, tip the usual 15 - 20% of the price of the massage. If you get more, you can figure out how much based on reading this forum.[/QUOTE]I remember in the days before web sites, BP, Craig's List, etc. , there were personals in the classified ads plus advertising for spas in the Washington Post sports section.

[QUOTE=Miketastic69;3473673]I would venture up to PG County. Cherry Acupressure, Tk, and Rising Sun should be better options for you.[/QUOTE]M69,

I agree that these are good suggestions for additional services, but I would have to add VIP and TWBC to the top of that list. IMHO they are currently the top two in that area.

Happy Hunting, HK.

[QUOTE=Mustang946;3489272]I remember in the days before web sites, BP, Craig's List, etc. , there were personals in the classified ads plus advertising for spas in the Washington Post sports section.[/QUOTE]The ads worth seeing were usually on the next to last page of the sports section. Frequently same page as the "box" scores.

[QUOTE=Mustang946;3489272]I remember in the days before web sites, BP, Craig's List, etc. , there were personals in the classified ads plus advertising for spas in the Washington Post sports section.[/QUOTE]I just cleaned out my light box from my Marine Corps days. You folks call it a light box I call it a FOOT LOCKER. I had some old newspapers from Baltimore from when I was thinking about renting an apartment back in the early 1990's. I'll be damned there was a personals section with phone numbers (and some with a generic phone number and 4-digit code for the specific girl you're calling about) and then there was about 2-dozen spa ads. No Pictures, but the descriptions were very tempting. "hottest Asian rubs in Baltimore" "wettest slippery table shower experience. " Who wrote that stuff. I wonder if any of those old places are still around somewhere.

I dreamt of going to a private condo in tysons. Been there a few times but stop going to AMPs and check out these hot, I mean hot Thai girls with sexy bodies. They give BBBJ and you can finish anywhere on them. Damage is. 220 total.

Backpage: search "mAssage by Sharon" they are freaks! You will be happy with they message too. Really good masssges.

BBBJ is great from Sharon, August, and jasmine.

[QUOTE=Mustang946;3489272]I remember in the days before web sites, BP, Craig's List, etc. , there were personals in the classified ads plus advertising for spas in the Washington Post sports section.[/QUOTE]There were also "adult services" ads in the Washington and Baltimore City Papers which I frequently consulted. Other cities I visited had similar publications. There also used to be some magazine or newspaper which gave information on spas in the mid-Atlantic region. That proved helpful when I traveled.

[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3490191]There were also "adult services" ads in the Washington and Baltimore City Papers which I frequently consulted. Other cities I visited had similar publications. There also used to be some magazine or newspaper which gave information on spas in the mid-Atlantic region. That proved helpful when I traveled.[/QUOTE]Yes reminders, reminders. I particularly like Mikte's note about the neon. I'm now like Pavlov's dog. If I'm of town and driving in the evening and see neon, I either am disappointed if it's not an AMP, or get a semi-hard on just seeing the neon. (even if I am not intending to visit) LOL.

[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills;3490334]Yes reminders, reminders. I particularly like Mikte's note about the neon. I'm now like Pavlov's dog. If I'm of town and driving in the evening and see neon, I either am disappointed if it's not an AMP, or get a semi-hard on just seeing the neon. (even if I am not intending to visit) LOL.[/QUOTE]I have stopped carrying cash unless I'm going to a place I've researched and made plans to visit. This is because I used to try every place behind a neon sign I passed when traveling. Some were great. Most not so much. That's how I ended up at Comfort Spot in FFX a few months ago. I felt like I could hear the buzz of the neon while walking by.

[QUOTE=IsoLife;3490101]I dreamt of going to a private condo in tysons. Been there a few times but stop going to AMPs and check out these hot, I mean hot Thai girls with sexy bodies. They give BBBJ and you can finish anywhere on them. Damage is. 220 total.

Backpage: search "mAssage by Sharon" they are freaks! You will be happy with they message too. Really good masssges.

BBBJ is great from Sharon, August, and jasmine.[/QUOTE]I am highly questionable on the BBBJ. I was the first person to review Sharon on ThE otheR site and I know she told me that was a one time thing because we had chemistry. I've seen her at least 5 more times and that has never happened again. Jasmine is the same as well. So I am not calling you a liar, but until I hear the same report from multiple users I can only go on this information I know personally.

[QUOTE=IsoLife;3490101]I dreamt of going to a private condo in tysons. Been there a few times but stop going to AMPs and check out these hot, I mean hot Thai girls with sexy bodies. They give BBBJ and you can finish anywhere on them. Damage is. 220 total.

Backpage: search "mAssage by Sharon" they are freaks! You will be happy with they message too. Really good masssges.

BBBJ is great from Sharon, August, and jasmine.[/QUOTE]I did a bit of research into past reviews from Iso and I'm inclined to think his dreams have been more in the realm of fantasy and less concrete as one would like. I took the recommendation to go to the him or her spa following his glorified review of the latin establishment hoping to receive elements of the same dream that he had. But alas after multiple visitations I've never received more than a slightly above average NOVA. I even asked Sandra if she would be more accommodating than a HE and she told me she does not go further. Again, I'm also not calling out ISO as a liar, he could very well be that lucky guy who breaks the upper echelon of the YMMV, But as what was stated before, take it with a grain of salt until there's multiple evidence of a more aligned dream.