Any reports? Wondering if any 5+ looker are in there?? Feel free to PM your dreams. Going thru search results now.
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So with my typical Green Apple closed along with some other Cary AMPs, I went back to Atsu Cary since that were I discovered Amy in the first place. The girl working the counter was trying to send off some family of five (mom was preggo and maybe wanted a maternity massage) The attendant saw me and tried to get me back but she was not at the usual standard so I asked if there were other girls. Also, I don't like when the attendants try the massage because they have to answer the door still which always interrupts the massage. Another girl was with a customer and she came out (tall gal, wearing traditional Chinese garb) but went back to finish up.
All that to say. I've been doing this long enough to know its dried up in Cary a bit and that visit was not going to be as good as I expect nowadays.
[QUOTE=MythMan2010;2533132]So with my typical Green Apple closed along with some other Cary AMPs, I went back to Atsu Cary since that were I discovered Amy in the first place. The girl working the counter was trying to send off some family of five (mom was preggo and maybe wanted a maternity massage) The attendant saw me and tried to get me back but she was not at the usual standard so I asked if there were other girls. Also, I don't like when the attendants try the massage because they have to answer the door still which always interrupts the massage. Another girl was with a customer and she came out (tall gal, wearing traditional Chinese garb) but went back to finish up.
All that to say. I've been doing this long enough to know its dried up in Cary a bit and that visit was not going to be as good as I expect nowadays.[/QUOTE]True dude true. Cary is NOT the place to be. In the immortal words of admiral ackbar "its a trap!
And its probably going to get a whole lot worse. Time to cash out, even for the AMP owners, from what my contacts are telling me, in the original Chinese.
[QUOTE=MythMan2010;2533132]So with my typical Green Apple closed along with some other Cary AMPs, I went back to Atsu Cary since that were I discovered Amy in the first place. The girl working the counter was trying to send off some family of five (mom was preggo and maybe wanted a maternity massage) The attendant saw me and tried to get me back but she was not at the usual standard so I asked if there were other girls. Also, I don't like when the attendants try the massage because they have to answer the door still which always interrupts the massage. Another girl was with a customer and she came out (tall gal, wearing traditional Chinese garb) but went back to finish up.
All that to say. I've been doing this long enough to know its dried up in Cary a bit and that visit was not going to be as good as I expect nowadays.[/QUOTE]I was kinda thinking I was just me maybe expecting too much from every visit but a lot of my recent visits have been duds either with girls dressed like they are going to work at a restaurant instead of a massage parlor or let's say not too attractive or sometimes just poor service in general that didn't include any HE service. These dud visits for me included Studio Salon, Apple, Yucca, you Relax, Atsu Cary. Oh the one that kinda freaked me out was the young girl at URelax started crying half way through the HJ. WTF I'm thinking to myself this young lady does not belong here. It's a strange business fellas. Let's face it, this business is designed for HE, excluding the LE part of it the flow of girls we see are a mixture of people that will give HE everyday 7 days a week then the others are trying to just work to survive. So between LE, HE givers and simple girls trying to work this will no doubt shuffle the scene always has always will.
Hi Guys,
Need some help which one on JJ lists on Capital is (Holly Tree).
Thanks,
CoolB.
[QUOTE=MythMan2010;2533132]So with my typical Green Apple closed along with some other Cary AMPs, I went back to Atsu Cary since that were I discovered Amy in the first place. The girl working the counter was trying to send off some family of five (mom was preggo and maybe wanted a maternity massage) The attendant saw me and tried to get me back but she was not at the usual standard so I asked if there were other girls. Also, I don't like when the attendants try the massage because they have to answer the door still which always interrupts the massage. Another girl was with a customer and she came out (tall gal, wearing traditional Chinese garb) but went back to finish up.
All that to say. I've been doing this long enough to know its dried up in Cary a bit and that visit was not going to be as good as I expect nowadays.[/QUOTE]I was kinda thinking I was just me maybe expecting too much from every visit but a lot of my recent visits have been duds either with girls dressed like they are going to work at a restaurant instead of a massage parlor or let's say not too attractive or sometimes just poor service in general that didn't include any HE service. These dud visits for me included Studio Salon, Apple, Yucca, you Relax, Atsu Cary. Oh the one that kinda freaked me out was the young girl at URelax started crying half way through the HJ. WTF I'm thinking to myself this young lady does not belong here. It's a strange business fellas. Let's face it, this business is designed for HE, excluding the LE part of it the flow of girls we see are a mixture of people that will give HE everyday 7 days a week then the others are trying to just work to survive. So between LE, HE givers and simple girls trying to work this will no doubt shuffle the scene always has always will.
[QUOTE=BrownRod;2526599]Yeah, it could be just a massage, the prices are in line for that. Or it could be the price to get you in the door then she opens the real price list for services unnamed.[/QUOTE]Just left about an hour ago. Granted her cleavage was about to pop out of her shirt and I commented on how nice it looked, was never crude or anything, but again guys they were about to pop out of her tank top. After I made the comment she said, "its time to go" so after about 25 minutes I gave her $40 and left. So your experience might be different, but if you go don't say ANYTHING or try anything. STRICTLY legit with a very poor attitude.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I have not been to any places since what happened at Holiday. Last time was a week prior at atsu where to my surprise I was massaged by three different people. Apparently they were training some new staff and asked if it was okay. I said sure. It turned out to be a below average massage with the training. However, it was very nice having someone on rubbing your back and legs at the same time. However, there are very few people that apply enough pressure these days. After the flip, the trainees left and it was per normal. It looks like the per normal below average massage and half hearted flip may be dwindling. That is sad. Has anyone had success in Cary since the Holiday thing?
[QUOTE=XHippie;2533257]I was kinda thinking I was just me maybe expecting too much from every visit but a lot of my recent visits have been duds either with girls dressed like they are going to work at a restaurant instead of a massage parlor or let's say not too attractive or sometimes just poor service in general that didn't include any HE service. These dud visits for me included Studio Salon, Apple, Yucca, you Relax, Atsu Cary. Oh the one that kinda freaked me out was the young girl at URelax started crying half way through the HJ. WTF I'm thinking to myself this young lady does not belong here. It's a strange business fellas. Let's face it, this business is designed for HE, excluding the LE part of it the flow of girls we see are a mixture of people that will give HE everyday 7 days a week then the others are trying to just work to survive. So between LE, HE givers and simple girls trying to work this will no doubt shuffle the scene always has always will.[/QUOTE]Started crying!? Whoa, you can't just skip by those details. You got to share that story.
[QUOTE=Vossen;2533622]Started crying!? Whoa, you can't just skip by those details. You got to share that story.[/QUOTE]Well our contact with each other was normal, massage, flip, she goes for the pole I'm relaxing and enjoying myself when I hear sniffling I open my eyes look up and she's crying, I stopped her and said honey you ok? She shook her head in a yes motion. I ended it there told her go get hot towel, she came back and cleaned me up and seemed to be ok but quiet. I'm always really respectful of these girls even if I'm not happy with the visit, and this visit was the standard warm hello and smile visit when she came in the room. So I'm not sure if it was the customer before me, a personal issue or an issue with a co- worker or boss. I know some of these ladies are under a lot of stress to do things they normally won't do or just being treated like shit by some of the owners. It's not an easy job for a lot of them its 13 hours a day 7 days a week some literally eat, sleep and work at the store. A lot of girls are ok with it and make good money but for some they like us have their breaking point. It was the first time I had seen a girl cry. I think it was just a case of a girl new to the business realizing what the fuck have I got myself into, or maybe another issue as I mentioned. I've left several places before thinking damn that was a waste, but never disrespectful. So just a reminder guys, please be respectful upon a good or bad visit because we expect some respect in our daily lives. These girls are 8500 miles from home and are not in a position to fix their situation unless one of you marries them. So who knows why she was crying could have been anything.
[QUOTE=Vossen;2533622]Started crying!? Whoa, you can't just skip by those details. You got to share that story.[/QUOTE]Well our contact with each other was normal, massage, flip, she goes for the pole I'm relaxing and enjoying myself when I hear sniffling I open my eyes look up and she's crying, I stopped her and said honey you ok? She shook her head in a yes motion. I ended it there told her go get hot towel, she came back and cleaned me up and seemed to be ok but quiet. I'm always really respectful of these girls even if I'm not happy with the visit, and this visit was the standard warm hello and smile visit when she came in the room. So I'm not sure if it was the customer before me, a personal issue or an issue with a co- worker or boss. I know some of these ladies are under a lot of stress to do things they normally won't do or just being treated like shit by some of the owners. It's not an easy job for a lot of them its 13 hours a day 7 days a week some literally eat, sleep and work at the store. A lot of girls are ok with it and make good money but for some they like us have their breaking point. It was the first time I had seen a girl cry. I think it was just a case of a girl new to the business realizing what the fuck have I got myself into, or maybe another issue as I mentioned. I've left several places before thinking damn that was a waste, but never disrespectful. So just a reminder guys, please be respectful upon a good or bad visit because we expect some respect in our daily lives. These girls are 8500 miles from home and are not in a position to fix their situation unless one of you marries them. So who knows why she was crying could have been anything.
Sorry for the double post today guys, using my smart phone and I'm an idiot operator.
[QUOTE=XHippie;2533674]These girls are 8500 miles from home and are not in a position to fix their situation unless one of you marries them. So who knows why she was crying could have been anything.[/QUOTE]That's bullshit. Many of them are already married and are doing more than well in the money department. Imagine 40 per customer times 10 a day for 6 days a week. That comes out to almost 10 k a month that is never taxed and that the owner probably does not see a dime of. All that for just doing hand jobs after what in many cases is a mediocre massage. I know straight guys who would probably give hand jobs for that kind of loot.
As far as why she cried, it could have been any number of reasons. She certainly wouldn't be the first chick to cry for a john and end up getting more for doing less. Even if you didn't, I'm sure some guys would drastically overtip just to feel good about themselves. As you said, you should always be respectful, but at the end of the day we should all keep in mind that most of what we get from these girl is a show.
[QUOTE=JoeLooking;2533724]That's bullshit. Many of them are already married and are doing more than well in the money department. Imagine 40 per customer times 10 a day for 6 days a week. That comes out to almost 10 k a month that is never taxed and that the owner probably does not see a dime of. All that for just doing hand jobs after what in many cases is a mediocre massage. I know straight guys who would probably give hand jobs for that kind of loot.
As far as why she cried, it could have been any number of reasons. She certainly wouldn't be the first chick to cry for a john and end up getting more for doing less. Even if you didn't, I'm sure some guys would drastically overtip just to feel good about themselves. As you said, you should always be respectful, but at the end of the day we should all keep in mind that most of what we get from these girl is a show.[/QUOTE]Yep I agree with most of what you said they can average on a modest month $6000 TAX FREE the situation I was referring to is they can easily buy a plane ticket to fly that 8500 miles home but they ain't going to make $60,000 plus at home tax free, and most have Visa's that won't allow them to return here. Not to get side track on the topic of economics but Theres a reason they got the hell out of China there are more people than there are jobs. Their stock market is starting to reflect this. They sell everything to the rest of the planet when we slow down they stop production. Married or divorced I've heard half say they are or are not. Like I originally said this one was a first for me to cry, and I've had my share of visits to these places And for the record she never asked for a tip but I tipped $40. It was strange!
I'm straight and narrow, would I do HJ for $100,000 a year damn that's a lot of tax free money. LOL.
There is the chance she was putting on a show but I would side with caution like you did. You never know the situation or how she got involved so I would hit the brakes.
I don't think it's everywhere, but clearly we are in a hobby that has some influence of sex trafficking so play it smart. We all say this is a consent based hobby so when it becomes otherwise things get serious.
[QUOTE=XHippie;2533674]Well our contact with each other was normal, massage, flip, she goes for the pole I'm relaxing and enjoying myself when I hear sniffling I open my eyes look up and she's crying, I stopped her and said honey you ok? She shook her head in a yes motion. I ended it there told her go get hot towel, she came back and cleaned me up and seemed to be ok but quiet. I'm always really respectful of these girls even if I'm not happy with the visit, and this visit was the standard warm hello and smile visit when she came in the room. So I'm not sure if it was the customer before me, a personal issue or an issue with a co- worker or boss. I know some of these ladies are under a lot of stress to do things they normally won't do or just being treated like shit by some of the owners. It's not an easy job for a lot of them its 13 hours a day 7 days a week some literally eat, sleep and work at the store. A lot of girls are ok with it and make good money but for some they like us have their breaking point. It was the first time I had seen a girl cry. I think it was just a case of a girl new to the business realizing what the fuck have I got myself into, or maybe another issue as I mentioned. I've left several places before thinking damn that was a waste, but never disrespectful. So just a reminder guys, please be respectful upon a good or bad visit because we expect some respect in our daily lives. These girls are 8500 miles from home and are not in a position to fix their situation unless one of you marries them. So who knows why she was crying could have been anything.[/QUOTE].