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[QUOTE=Wiregrass;3470549]Damage: just over $$ 260+room and a coffee, an OUTSTANDING value but too steep on the frontside for some of you lousy cheapass pricks.
Count me in the cheapass prick category; I'll categorize you as temporarily crazy.
Overworked, underpaid UTR ladies can be found in many work places; wam, bam, $20/$30 Mame; numerous times. Or 5 $60 30-40 min. Sessions.[/QUOTE]Count me in, as well, definitely. Not only is that way too much to pay, but I have zero interest to strike up a conversation, or even be around, for that matter, a girl's boyfriend/handler. Plus, I've passed girls on the road many times, and if I see some thug tailing them, I'm no longer interested. I wouldn't care if her pussy glows sunshine.
You guys are comparing apples and oranges. This wasn't a quickie beer money suck off from Molly Methmouth, 42, mother of 7, behind the dumpster at the Dollar General before Big Jimmy shows up in most of his '96 Corrola to take her back to the singlewide. This was service comparable to the best escorts in Europe, from a gal that didn't win Homecoming Queen but was probably on the court.
Now as per dealing with the handler, everyone has a right to their own security procedures, but this cat was NOT a common street thug. They both had an air of daytime professionals. I guess if you are going to behave like a scared little bunny you are going to miss out on the Honey.
Trust me, I've never gotten with anyone that walks the streets that fits that description. Plus, someone that's 42 is around 20 years too old for my tastes. Oh, I've seen lots of them out there, but those are the kind that's the caliber the ones that were into Tire Store Cindy and little Bit would like. It's the money spent, that I'm talking about. If someone has that much disposable income to blow in one sitting, then be my guest. But for those of us who don't, it wouldn't matter what the girl looked like. There's people that's posted for years on the escort and BP threads that make it look like they spend 200-300 or more several times a week, and that's all well and good, if they've got it to spend. I don't. I have other hobbies and interests I use my funds on, not just this. Plus for me, just the talk of a handler / boyfriend was enough to make me not interested. I've put girls out of my vehicle that looked good in the past just because they started getting incessant calls even before we got down the road. It's not that big to me, and I certainly am not ever in the position where I'm going to bust if I didn't get laid at a given time. Now if someone got a time machine and brought me Kimberly McArthur, the January '82 Playmate of the Month, then I might consider spending that amount of money.
Just to keep things in perspective, over 3/4 of every pornstar are newbies and get between $300-$500.
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We are not comparing apples to oranges, but merely stating that, although you had a great time, we have had the same or better with other equally attractive regularly priced providers. $300 with them would get you an overnight visit. Or as mentoned earlier, $300 could get you pornstar you have seen on pornhub! LOL. Seriously speaking from experience. I have TWO pornstar films starring me and relatively unknown pornstars, tucked away for my viewing pleasure. Not to mention the worst overall effect of reseting going rates for all gents. Just my two cents.
[QUOTE=Prince83;3475774]Just to keep things in perspective, over 3/4 of every pornstar are newbies and get between $300-$500.
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We are not comparing apples to oranges, but merely stating that, although you had a great time, we have had the same or better with other equally attractive regularly priced providers. $300 with them would get you an overnight visit. Or as mentoned earlier, $300 could get you pornstar you have seen on pornhub! LOL. Seriously speaking from experience. I have TWO pornstar films starring me and relatively unknown pornstars, tucked away for my viewing pleasure. Not to mention the worst overall effect of reseting going rates for all gents. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Well to be honest I've never met any provider that would do an overnight date for 300.00. But there are many upscale providers that will do a beyond amazing hour for 300.00. In fact there are a few that will give you GFE service for 200 to 250 and they're smoking hot I might add. Typically speaking these girls don't have rec problems OR a handler. For guys looking for a qv or a bargain date you of necessity deal with the kind of girl that offers those things. That pretty often involves drug problems and or a handler. If 250-300 dollars isn't an issue then there are LOTS of options available. That's a fact. MJ.
MJ, see to me WE set rates by what we regularly pay. I'm talking about putting perspective on these 'so called' upscale providers. Let me say this first, we all have been guilty of over paying before. But I hope we can all together try to stick with the going rates. These same upscale gals you are paying 250+ to are accepting my 140 hr just fine. Trust me on this. And even other utr gals are accepting these rates. Not all have handlers or rec issues and they are as GFE as any others. The 300 overnight rates obviously come with a certain level of comfort and regular visits but it happens. Certain providers I paid a few visits at 120-140 hr late at night, I would simply ask if they would shut down for the night for 300. Never got a no from any of them. I'm driving so its hard for me to spell out all I'm trying to convey, but basically I can show you communication between me and several very upscale GFE providers that are charging yall 250 to 300 and accepting my 140 to 160 hr donation regularly. Even setup quick blow and go lunch sessions for 60 to 80 with these same, upscale, GFE, no handler, no rec issues providers. All about perspective. Why am I complaining if I have so good? Simple. If yall would stop overpaying then I could bring my discount rates down even lower! LOL. 100 hr with upscale providers, 60 hr for mid level. LOL. Bbw Mandy, and Asia are the pornstars BTW. About 1 hr footage each, $280 and $300 respectively.
[QUOTE=Prince83;3478865]MJ, see to me WE set rates by what we regularly pay. I'm talking about putting perspective on these 'so called' upscale providers. Let me say this first, we all have been guilty of over paying before. But I hope we can all together try to stick with the going rates. These same upscale gals you are paying 250+ to are accepting my 140 hr just fine. Trust me on this. And even other utr gals are accepting these rates. Not all have handlers or rec issues and they are as GFE as any others. The 300 overnight rates obviously come with a certain level of comfort and regular visits but it happens. Certain providers I paid a few visits at 120-140 hr late at night, I would simply ask if they would shut down for the night for 300. Never got a no from any of them. I'm driving so its hard for me to spell out all I'm trying to convey, but basically I can show you communication between me and several very upscale GFE providers that are charging yall 250 to 300 and accepting my 140 to 160 hr donation regularly. Even setup quick blow and go lunch sessions for 60 to 80 with these same, upscale, GFE, no handler, no rec issues providers. All about perspective. Why am I complaining if I have so good? Simple. If yall would stop overpaying then I could bring my discount rates down even lower! LOL. 100 hr with upscale providers, 60 hr for mid level. LOL. Bbw Mandy, and Asia are the pornstars BTW. About 1 hr footage each, $280 and $300 respectively.[/QUOTE]First of all let me start off by saying that I in no way mean any disrespect and I also appreciate both your perspective and your report and the time you spent to provide it. I certainly don't think I'm mr. Know it all and I kind of hate that attitude in people but by way of some perspective on myself I have been in this hobby for more than 30 years and I'm not sure that I would call a very late night visit to some girl and offering her $300 to shut down and stay there for a few hours an overnight visit. Typically girls see that as 10 to 12 hours of their time and I know very few that will do that for less than $1,000. As for the climate in the market as far as what hobbyist want to pay these days most guys want a quick visit or at the very long stretch 30 minutes so what that is doing for a lot of providers even for some of the better ones they're charging more and more for a quick visit or for a half hour visit. It's all about supply and demand if everybody wants a wham bam thank you ma'am and out the door then the price for that type of activity is going to go up and up because whether a girl is supplying a drug habit or simply trying to pay the bills she has to make enough income to meet her needs. I myself have had close personal relationships with a few providers over the years and sometimes when a girl gets to know you very well or you have seen her for some time she will give you a break on the price but more often than not girls that are doing quick visits blow and go type of dates are high-volume providers who are just looking for enough money to get high. I know that's not always the case but predominately that is true even under the radar girls typically fall into that type of scenario as well. I'm certainly not trying to be argumentative here and I totally respect your experience and position because it's different for all of us. I like most of us am, a working stiff and just have so much disposable income so I don't like to pay an exorbitant price any more than the next guy but with what is available on Backpage these days it's almost cheaper to pay a bit more money for someone that you know is going to give you good service with a great attitude in a safe secure location with no Handler to have to deal with. Over the past 6 months I've had to stick a pistol into a guy's face twice just to get out of the door so my tolerance for providers who have handlers is pretty much zero these days if I know a girl is being pimped or managed I just don't see her. Anyway I'm totally with you as far as wishing that prices would come down a bit but it's pretty difficult to see anybody that's decent for less than $200 for an hour session. If you're trying to find somebody that's sane sober and disease-free that in itself is a tough nut to crack let alone finding such a girl at a bargain-basement price. Anyway this is just my perspective from my own experience and in no way diminishes what you said or your own situation. Again thanks for sharing. MJ.
Apparently I'm a bigger tightwad than Prince. I personally will not pay $300 for the worlds best pussy, likely not even for two sessions.
Now I'll admit, I have (on occasion) gone $200 but I've generally (after the fact) regretted it; although prettier (?) their pussy wasn't any better than many working girls.
When negotiating $100 is generally my top $; as I've always got Rosey Palm and her five daughters to fall back on they can take it or leave it. Yes many have declined -- and that's ok, but many have said OK.
I visit with three UTR ladies (in their homes), one at $10 (but I often give her $5 in passing), one at $30 and the other at $40; sessions run 30-45 min as that's all I need. All three bareback.
There is one that trys to rush me, the $40 girl?
Of course you city boys live in a different environment than this country boy. But when I lived in Mobile I found a similar thing, local gents were over-paying, I worked on them and got prices to my liking.
I agree, Wiregrass. Though for me, there's never been a time that I've put out even $100 at one pop. Any time I get over half of that, more often that not I immediately start wishing I'd not done it. In my experience, the amount you put out doesn't mean better service, and I know it's apples to oranges with the SW to escort scene. Now I have, when adding up the amount I've spent total with a girl over many hours at one time, spent more than that. But that's satisfying what she needs as well as her satisfying what I need.
Anyone had any experience with the callescort. Org webpage? Just curious of any other sites to check out. Also are their any reliable providers along I20 east? (Moody, Leeds, pellcity, riverside) I'm not really looking to drive to Birmingham every time I get an itch. If you could PM me I would really appreciate all the help I can get.
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You are either a chick or the mgt of a chick. The market at all times sets rates, no exceptions. It doesn't matter if the service is haircuts or blowjobs. Chicks don't set the rates, mongers set the rates by what they will or will not pay. At the end of the day they are selling pussy and half of the people on the planet have one, they are not rare.
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Not these days, and not in this area, for a quality provider. Country boy as myself, or not, to find the providers you will go to where they are. And you will put out sixty for qv eighty hhr and a bill for an hr at least for good service. Even $. 60 for hr for some is not bad. As always, YMMV. But don't expect top quality one hr for a bill. That's not happening these days.
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[QUOTE=Wiregrass;3479887]Apparently I'm a bigger tightwad than Prince. I personally will not pay $300 for the worlds best pussy, likely not even for two sessions.
Now I'll admit, I have (on occasion) gone $200 but I've generally (after the fact) regretted it; although prettier (?) their pussy wasn't any better than many working girls.
When negotiating $100 is generally my top $; as I've always got Rosey Palm and her five daughters to fall back on they can take it or leave it. Yes many have declined -- and that's ok, but many have said OK.
I visit with three UTR ladies (in their homes), one at $10 (but I often give her $5 in passing), one at $30 and the other at $40; sessions run 30-45 min as that's all I need. All three bareback.
There is one that trys to rush me, the $40 girl?
Of course you city boys live in a different environment than this country boy. But when I lived in Mobile I found a similar thing, local gents were over-paying, I worked on them and got prices to my liking.[/QUOTE]
"Not these days, and not in this area, for a quality provider."
I guess your definition of Quality Provider is different than mine. I look for a pleasant personality, someone clean and eager. Safe environment. Looks / age (while nice) are low priorities to me; and I don't need an hour of chit-chat so 20-40 min is usually enough to satisfy me.
"Country boy as myself, or not, to find the providers you will go to where they are."
Yes you need to go where they are; I find them clerking in places like convenience stores, fast foods, etc. Chat with them, flirt, take the chance. Once I found one doing an in-store (Sams Club) demonstration. Cheese cake, ummmm, yummy!
"And you will put out sixty for qv eighty hhr and a bill for an hr at least for good service. Even $. 60 for hr for some is not bad. As always, YMMV. But don't expect top quality one hr for a bill. That's not happening these days."
Once again - there have been times I've paid those higher prices, but they are rare. Cheap Charlie and Rosey Palm set the price, not the lady.
You are either a chick or the mgt of a chick. The market at all times sets rates, no exceptions. It doesn't matter if the service is haircuts or blowjobs. Chicks don't set the rates, mongers set the rates by what they will or will not pay. At the end of the day they are selling pussy and half of the people on the planet have one, they are not rare.
Be gone.
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BURN! Nice one A2! Good job! MJ.