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Since I don't want to TOFTT on this. I choose to tour the amps by car Wednesday.
CH No open sign
HH saw a monger leaving 1 truck there
Lily 2 cars looked open
Sunflower sign lit no car front or back
Pleasant sign was lit no cars
Harmony 1/2 lit sign, lots of cars that could have been inthe restuarnt
FE sign lit some cars in front
I am going to let this play out a little. Any providers can PM me.
Be careful!
If they go by reputation, then clearly we have a lot of work to do.
Lillys is full of ugly old women. At One Spa, they must install the girl's panties with an arc welder. Fact is, all sex workers are nagging ball-busters with terrible attitudes. The fat saggy Asians are the worst of the worst.
If only they could be more like the sleek, sweet, sexy and loving American girls that you can easily meet and take home from any regular bar. The only way to improve one of those girls is to marry her and wait a few years. The only thing she wants is to make you happy!
Ugh. Writing that was harder than it looks!
Condoms $150 with a free demonstration. Does that work?
Then there is no money for sex, you are just paying for a really expensive condom.
there's gotta be an answer! Suppose, for example, that Mama went into the room with the provider and the customer....and after customer got settled, provider stood back and asked, "Do you think I'm pretty?" And instead of answering, in-the-know customer would reach out toward provider's breasts and gently touch them. Girl would immediately know customer's interest...and she would know that customer was not LE. Customers who were LE or otherwise clueless would not know what to do....or would be (presumably) prohibited from touching her first. This way, both Mama and girl would witness what transpired.
[QUOTE=Ri Designer]SO
Like the thought but Paypal / Green Dot are traceable and then you start to look at Federal Mail Fraud Charges or consipracy to commit RICO Fraud. We know how that worked out for a certain morning talk show host.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ri Designer]Nice spin but not true.[/QUOTE]What's not true? That there aren't pro-sex feminists? It's completely true. To take one example, there is a strip club (Lusty Lady) in San Francisco owned and staffed by women. Feminist women. COYOTE, an organization devoted to advocating for sex workers and legalizing prostitution, is a bunch of feminists.
[QUOTE=Hottub]If they go by reputation, then clearly we have a lot of work to do.
Lillys is full of ugly old women. At One Spa, they must install the girl's panties with an arc welder. Fact is, all sex workers are nagging ball-busters with terrible attitudes. The fat saggy Asians are the worst of the worst.
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Nah dude, you got it all wrong:
Ad:
Old Blond.
Location: Smith Hill, Providence
I've got the pu**y, I make the rules.
NO calls from taxpayers accepted.
Voting public ignored.
Intelligent, progressive minds will be asked to leave immediately.
Blind lemmings welcome.
It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.
Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.
Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.
But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.
Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.
pwh
[QUOTE=Newday53]That reputation bit is the stickler. I still say a good lawyer could fight this as hearsay but at what cost to the defendant? I know the authors of that URI "thesis" and other lists for that matter insist places have a "reputation" so I'm sure that's keeping most of us away but where are the actual facts. Previous busts, arrest records, hidden surveillance, marked bills, etc. To support these "reputations"? Hell, we could start writing here about "fun" at legit massage places and GIVE them a reputation. Now what. Do they close down the entire massage industry in Rhode Island?
And, BA, you are right. The cops will say anything. Learned that the hard way a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (different hobby but still a personal freedom issue). And with all the hoopla and arrest report requirements with the new law, they'll make it stick.
Guilty until proven innocent. Man this pisses me off. Our forefathers must be rolling in their graves, alone of course, as we all know about the reputations cemeteries have.
P. S. My apologies to the group for the rant. I will post all further discussion on the General Topics forum where it probably belongs. Saw Flatspd's latest post and his is more appropriate to this forum than mine. Good work, Flatspd. Parking in Lily's, man they've got balls! [/QUOTE]Responding further to the point.
Reputation evidence will not be a major factor in police action now or for the immediate future. Anything that happened before the law was signed was not illegal. Therefore, any person engaged as either a worker or a client has a reputation as a law abiding citizen.
Police do not want to do more work than they have to, but must, and will respond to complaints. A call comes in with some complaint, the police must investigate. If the police establish that prostitution has occurred in some place after the law was signed, then reputation evidence may become more relevant for issuing warrants
The police will be getting complaints from neighbors, and agitators like the good professor for the next couple of weeks, then things will quiet down.
The watchword is going to have to be discretion. The days of display ads in the phoenix with coupons are over, but this law, like every effort to shut down sex work cannot wipe it out, only drive it under ground.
The only reputations that will be important is yours. If you're arrested, then, there is no way you can protect your reputation. Be careful.
[QUOTE=Pw Herman]It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.
Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.
Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.
But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.
Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.
pwh[/QUOTE]
There isn't a directory in the State House that lists all establishments with a "reputation", and if there was just who determined that the place had a "reputation"? How about if the wife of the governor slept around and everyone knew it? Would that mean she'd have a "reputation" and be subject to being raided?
Where I come from, just about any business containing the word "spa" is considered to have a reputation.
To me this is just a ridiculous term to allow those who want to close down a business to do so with impunity.
Are you guys really that gullible to think that LE would not touch a providers breast or beautiful tulip to entrap them, it is a wonder that AMP fees have not hit $500 because it would appear that you guys will believe anything you are told. LE will use any means necessary to entrap these girls and the courts will believe them.
[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan]there's gotta be an answer! Suppose, for example, that Mama went into the room with the provider and the customer....and after customer got settled, provider stood back and asked, "Do you think I'm pretty?" And instead of answering, in-the-know customer would reach out toward provider's breasts and gently touch them. Girl would immediately know customer's interest...and she would know that customer was not LE. Customers who were LE or otherwise clueless would not know what to do....or would be (presumably) prohibited from touching her first. This way, both Mama and girl would witness what transpired.[/QUOTE]
Your are on a good line of thought there but there can't be any sharing of info anywhere because each and everyone of us could be playing for the other team. It is just that before the other team was allowed to do the same thing we were so it was okay for them to do so on a legal basis. It is only now that we can go to jail and LE can loose (oh wait LE can still have their fun at the AMPS it will just be that we get busted for being in the next room after they bust a nut. I guess the answer is that we all join the police academy.
[QUOTE=Pw Herman]It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.
Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.
Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.
But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.
Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.
pwh[/QUOTE]
Unfortunatly, there was a list that was circulating around the state house that had every AMP listed with the services provided and the pricing. And guess who provided all of the research for them, thats right we all did, of course I provided them with a way to save money while doing the research so I did my part to slash the state budget by showing them how to save money on the General Assembly's slush fund that we all paid for.
[QUOTE=Bubba261]There isn't a directory in the State House that lists all establishments with a "reputation", and if there was just who determined that the place had a "reputation"? How about if the wife of the governor slept around and everyone knew it? Would that mean she'd have a "reputation" and be subject to being raided?
Where I come from, just about any business containing the word "spa" is considered to have a reputation.
To me this is just a ridiculous term to allow those who want to close down a business to do so with impunity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jackzonian26]Ok, I'm going to start a private club where your first drink at the bar costs you $150.00 And I guarantee that you will get lucky with the hot asian chick sitting on the bar stool next to you. So where's the problem here?
J[/QUOTE]
If you can guarantee that the guy who buys the $150 drink will get lucky, then you must be paying the women, so it's prostitution.
Now, are you saying I'm naive and gullible to think that LE protocol would prevent them from reaching out to touch a firm, young breast with just the hint of a pointed, swelling nipple showing through the skimpy top of a bikini...perhaps even giving the lovely nip a little squeeze? Maybe, just maybe, I'll need to clear my head a little by visiting my favorite AMP today! I am missing that little beautiful tulip....
OK, so maybe my idea won't fly...
[QUOTE=Ri Designer]Are you guys really that gullible to think that LE would not touch a providers breast or beautiful tulip to entrap them, it is a wonder that AMP fees have not hit $500 because it would appear that you guys will believe anything you are told. LE will use any means necessary to entrap these girls and the courts will believe them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bigrig28]Police do not want to do more work than they have to, but must, and will respond to complaints. [/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, there is a kind of quota system tied to the new law:
[QUOTE]11-34.1-13. Reporting. -- On or before January 15, 2010, and semi-annually thereafter, each law enforcement agency in this state shall file with the Governor, the Attorney General, the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate a report concerning the
agency's enforcement of this chapter during the preceding six (6) month period. Each semi-annual report shall contain, but need not be limited to, the following information:
(1) The number of persons arrested pursuant to subsection 11-34.1-2(a), subsection 11-34.1-2(b), section 11-34.1-3, section 11-34.1-4, subsection 11-34.1-6(a), subsection 11-34.1-6(b),
and subsection 11-34.1-7 of this chapter;
(2) Of those arrested, the number of persons convicted, placed on probation, whose case is filed pursuant to section 12-10-12, whether those persons pled guilty or nolo contendere or were found guilty after trial by judge or jury;
(3) The fines and/or sentences of those persons identified pursuant to subdivision (2) of this section; and
(4) A summary of the amounts of fines levied and the lengths of sentences identified pursuant to subdivision (3) of this section.[/QUOTE]
So while the police may not want or need more work who is to say the blond and her lemmings won't do exactly what Flatspd did the other day and complain to the police that she is not seeing results? Although, as we see from Flatspd's report, there already seems to be a few casualties.