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[QUOTE=Ginger Man]Enough. Seriously, if you do not know what to tip, PM a senior or three who seem to know.
I need to get back to NSP.[/QUOTE]really, and the senior members actually give honest answers?
I would say they would be more concerned to respond to PMs from random new folks.
[QUOTE=Guitarman1]It could just as easily been a nearby business or resident who noticed the traffic going to the place and decided to investigate.
So many times people have been very direct with getting FS at an AMP I liked. Without fail they have all been shut down within about 6-9 months. I always stop going once someone is that direct about it and it is a good thing I do. I'm sure I saved myself from being caught up in a raid. Some people on this board will never learn.[/QUOTE]That's my motto. I found out the hard way some people here just don't care if a place gets busted. They'll just move on to the next place. Just check the usual explicit reporters. They just don't care and they brag about it.
Also, I doubt the law reveals every source that it uses. They have probably used the services at Green for the last 6 months, but don't want to have to say that in court.
[QUOTE]According to the affidavit, a complaint was filed through Loudoun Crime Solvers Nov. 5, 2009. The complaint said that a UPS delivery person who was taking a package to the dentist office next door accidentally walked into Green Therapy and saw a lady “with barely any clothes on.”
The Sheriff’s Office set up surveillance outside of Green Therapy and interviewed several men who came out about what type of services they received.
In December and January, the Sheriff’s Office got two anonymous letters detailing posts on the websites USA Sex Guide and Erotic MP that detailed the services at Green Therapy.
On March 30, the Sheriff’s Office sent a confidential informant into Green Therapy and instructed him not to request anything more than a basic massage, but if the masseuse offered to stimulate his genital area with her hands, he could accept.
After being in Green Therapy for about an hour, the confidential informant reported back that his masseuse told him most of the women who worked at the business were from 18 to 25 years old; however, he noticed a girl who looked 15 or 16. He said all were Korean.
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Seems like thier informant was wrong on almost all of his information. None of them were 18-25, and at least 2 of them were probably Chinese from the names in the article.
A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?
Since their informant gave false information, how do we really know he was offered FS and declined?
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?[/QUOTE]Since you are still sore on Green. As I said they got sloppy. Why don't you blame the mamasan for not doing her her job. You just don't let people walk thru the door when people are walking around half naked. After all they were not running a 100% legit business. Also, you contributed to their demise by posting their name on this board to. You are better off posting your useless Tip pricing model crap. Funny trying to parse a freaking article.
Gameover
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?[/QUOTE]Virginia is a bible state. Think Liberty University, its in Virginia, guy could have been a Jesus freak! I can't believe you are wasting your time on mindless speculation. Does it really matter?
Speculate on this. UPS, a fortune 500 corporation, does not have a policy in place for employees to report suspicious activities they encounter during a delivery of a package? Ups delivery guy could told his supervisor who told the cops end of story. Does it matter! Place is closed.
[QUOTE=Dr Bombay]That's my motto. I found out the hard way some people here just don't care if a place gets busted. They'll just move on to the next place. Just check the usual explicit reporters. They just don't care and they brag about it.[/QUOTE]These guys that feel the need to brag online know that the chance that they will be the one dripping wet on the shower table when the ninjas come in with shotguns and video cameras is akin to winning the lottery. They are selfish and give no thought to the progressive damage resulting from their actions. They probably treat their friends and co-workers the same way. Despite popular belief the providers aren't all trafficking victims or heartless transients but ladies paying mortgages and going to school in the area. Check my previous report #3581. As another member said, when a place gets too popular I search out other UTR venues and usually get what I need. I remember one rainy weekend afternoon standing in a small lobby at one of last year's hotspots with 3 other guys all trying not to make eye contact with each other. It was comical and I knew it would be my last time there until the inevitable LE visit had passed.
BC
[QUOTE=Anon Busi]This is very curious indeed. It's not like Green Therapy discussion in USASG comes up on the first page of Google or anything, so it's likely someone who frequents this board for fun turned them in.[/QUOTE]A common LE tactic is to monitor these sites to establish probable cause for an investigation. It is not right to use anonymous posts this way but that's how it's done regardless if it holds up in court. There are laptops in the cruisers and more at HQ. There are two forgotten groups of people that read the postings, LE and providers. This weekend I was summoned to interpret another guy's post for a MMS. She was not pleased.
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Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely outside the reach of the USA legal system.
Thanks,
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[QUOTE=Nikos2]Since you are still sore on Green. As I said they got sloppy. Why don't you blame the mamasan for not doing her her job. You just don't let people walk thru the door when people are walking around half naked. After all they were not running a 100% legit business. Also, you contributed to their demise by posting their name on this board to. You are better off posting your useless Tip pricing model crap. Funny trying to parse a freaking article.
Gameover[/QUOTE]
Where in my post was I placing blame?
The only thing useless I have read lately around here are what is passing as reviews from some of you. Seems like you are trying to raise your post count with back to back posts, edit the original if you have an additional thought.
I simply posted a few excerpts from the article that I found interesting.
Having worked for UPS when I was a young man, I often encountered ladies in various states of dress and never once did I feel the need to 'report' such an incident. Even if they have a duty to report a crime if they see it, what is illegal seeing a scantily clad lady at her place of business? Is he the SPA's dress code enforcer? That's up to managment, not the UPS driver.
Is this driver reporting all the girls dressed provocatively everywhere else ?
You obviously have NOT read this forum, but you make a lot of comments about things that never happened. Find 1 review I made or comment BEFORE the bust about Green.
I didn't try to parse the article I took the pieces that I wanted to discuss and quoted them that is all.
You attitude suggests you do not care about spas that close or what LE is doing to the hobby. As such you really don't have a usefull purpose here. Ultimately lets see if you make any positive contribution to this site, perhaps you may, I am not optimistic however.
Went to a place by George Marshall in Tyson area, the lady with the first name of a former first lady was good. Massage was not worth the money. Standard NOVA treatment being it was my first time. But very open/positive attitude and energy. There were other providers I saw on way to from shower. Maybe I'll try another next time.
Shower door faced the entrance hallway which was kinda awkward. But the shower table, which was not actually your regular table was covered in tile. Was afraid of the cushioning slipping away from the slippery, clean, white, block table.
I went last Friday. Saw a lady with a name of a former first lady. Was not that great with the massage. Great with the attitude for Standard Nova finish. Will visit again and see if one of the other girls can do better with the massage and all.
I just got home from a long trip last night and I wanted to unwind so I got in my car and headed to my ATF. The open sign in the window was turned off but there was a sign on the door that said open. I rang the doorbell and waited for a couple of minutes and no one came. I hate standing outside so I left.
I then went to a backup spot which has a much more discreet location and when I got there same deal. Lights off, and at this place the doorbell didn't even exist, it was broken off. Looks like it was shut down.
This was all around 9pm so I assume my first spot closed early since it was a Sunday. But I dunno. I don't post the names of places cause I'm new and would rather not. Just found it interesting.
[QUOTE=Nikos2]I will use a similar parsing tactic you used on me.
UPS does not not shut down SPA's the local authorities shut them down. UPS guy told local authorities, local authorities investigated and shut it down. UPS is not the dress code enforcer the local authorities are the dress code enforcers. Why blame the UPS guy? He didn't make the final call?
Similar to your parsing tactic you used on me.
The Feds do not shut down Spa local authorities shut them down.
The Fed investigates human trafficking as it is a FEDERAL OFFENSE which falls under interstate commerce. Federal investigators will coordinate with local officials to shut down spa that facilitates Human Trafficking. Suspects which arrested are charged in Federal court for human trafficking. (Federal Offense under Insterstate Commerce) Simultaneously, the spa is closed and the same suspects are charged with violation of local laws.
If you don't know the law or what you are talking about then stick to something you do know like your TIP pricing model.[/QUOTE]
If you don't know how to read perhaps you should go back to school.
I never said the UPS guy shut the place down.
I never said the feds did and it never came up in my posts.
You should stick to trying to post 1 line reviews that do not serve any purpose and tell us again how happy you are when places shut down.
What is your purpose here again?
You keep refering to a TIP pricing model. While I posted on tipping affecting quality I never gave a "pricing model".
You I am sure will continue to make up stuff to suit your need to post and repost about nothing.
I speculated the UPS driver was probably FEMALE since they reported seeing a scantly clad person and were NOT happy about, I did not pass blame nor attack UPS.
Please work on your reading skills, I doubt you know much of the law since you seem lack the ability to understand a simple post on this forum. The law seems to be outside of your ability to comprehend.
At this point Nikos2 has 10 posts.
Post 1 - Posts about how he's glad Green got busted.
Post 2 - Another useless post about parlors in Brooklyn despite being a NoVA board.
Post 3 - Deleted by admin for personal attacks.
Post 4 - Talks about AMPs in DC closing down after 2001 which doesn't sound right.
Post 5, 6, 7 - Three replies to one post. Looks like an attempt to inflate post count.
Post 8, 9 - Two replies to one post. Looks like another attempt to inflate post count.
Post 10 - Another useless post.
Hmmmm.
So I stopped in at this spot and I got an awesome massage from an awesome lady. Quite possibly the best massage I have ever had in my limited experience. It took a little convincing to get the finish I was after. "No problem? ", "Please, no problem at all". The finish it self was fast and furious, but after such a fantastic massage I wasn't complaining.
Let's not start another pissing contest. It just ain't worth it. We all know who the jackasses are and who to ignore.
OK?
PEACE!
JJ
[QUOTE=Cranberries]At this point Nikos2 has 10 posts.
Post 1 - Posts about how he's glad Green got busted.
Post 2 - Another useless post about parlors in Brooklyn despite being a NoVA board.
Post 3 - Deleted by admin for personal attacks.
Post 4 - Talks about AMPs in DC closing down after 2001 which doesn't sound right.
Post 5, 6, 7 - Three replies to one post. Looks like an attempt to inflate post count.
Post 8, 9 - Two replies to one post. Looks like another attempt to inflate post count.
Post 10 - Another useless post.
Hmmmm.[/QUOTE]