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[QUOTE=ClarkKent;3437274]I was asked in a PM about my angle on posting CL ads and dating sites in finding girls, and instead of sending a PM, I thought I'd post it here so whoever wanted to know would have the info.

With dating sites, you just have to fish. As with anything like this, I tend to let them come to me. What's funny with a dating ad, you're more likely to get fucked the first day you meet them than you are posting an ad looking to fuck. Through the years, I've had dating site profiles on many sites, and more often than not, the girls I'd talk to, the very first time we'd meet, we'd end up having sex. A dating site ad takes investment, because you've got to talk to them, sometimes for a while, before you end up meeting. Most of the girls on these sites are starving for attention, more often than not will be spacey as well. They're also going to be ones that are usually still hung up on some past boyfriend or husband, so there's always that to deal with. The fish site, and cupid are the better ones. You can also use tagged because it's more geared for the quick hookup thing, plus there's also girls there using it as a BP type thing, as well. I was asked about tinder. I don't use tinder, as it makes you link to your Facebook account, and you can't fudge your age with that. That's another thing, I always de-age myself in profiles or ads, as it gives a better chance to get the ages I prefer, and generally keeps the ones closer to my mothers age from replying. Don't use match either, or any site that makes you pay to basically interact with others. There's so many free sites there's no point in paying.

There's also posting ads on CL. Posting ads on CL is another type of fishing for me. There's several categories on CL to post ads under personals. Most sexual type ads are supposed to go under 'casual encounters', but some are also posted under the direct m4w category. Though anything overtly sexual under the direct m4w is more likely to get flagged and removed. It's simple to deal with when that happens, just repost the ad. Luckily CL doesn't have anything right now which tries to ban you, or restrict you from reposting a flagged ad. Most times, flagged ads are just people who troll the site daily and get tired of seeing the same ads reposted. Anyway, when you post on CL, it's best to post several ads at the same time. I post ads and let them come to me. I hardly ever reply to ads. Try posting ads in several categories, looking for different things, such as a specific fetish or certain type of girl. When you have several ads up at the same time, it's easy to weed out the spam replies, because they usually send them to all ads at the same time, and you'll end up with the same reply in your inbox one after the other. Spam replies are also easy to tell that they're spam, because most of them send you a link to click on, or tell you to send them your email address or they'll send you some random email to reply to (usually a gmail address). When a real person replies to you, more often than not, they'll have their real name in their email header, or might send you their number to text them. If they don't send you a picture, both the name and phone number are easily searchable on Facebook. You can narrow it down with names by adding 'Alabama' to it, which will give you local and statewide matches to your search. You can also search names on Twitter, Instagram, and even old my$pace accounts. If they don't have their name in their header or send you their number right away, then it's just up to you whether to reply, and with me it all depends on what they say in their reply. Talking to someone who answers your ad on CL is also hit and miss. More often than not, the ones who reply are looking for ways to talk themselves out of meeting even before they reply to your ad. There'll be some that reply to every ad that pops up, and I've gotten to where I just ignore them, because they're either not looking to actually meet, or are extremely picky. Basically what you're looking for is not the same old trolls that search the CL ads daily, but a diamond in the rough that comes along every so often - and they do exist. Since fall of last year, I had at one time three different girls who I was meeting up with all during the same time frame, for fun. Plus I've gotten lucky lately in that a girl I went to school with replied to my ad, but wasn't someone who knew me in school, but I knew of her. That's always nice. During my years of mongering and posting ads, I can think of five women I went to school with that I've crossed paths with, and ended up having fun. All of which I either found mongering, or through ads I posted. This new one would make six.

I hope that my insight on another way to find some cheaper fun helps those that are interested. It takes time, dedication, and patience, but it can reap the rewards if you're willing to invest in it.[/QUOTE]I agree with every word. I started out with POF had some luck. Then tried Zoosk its a complete rip off. I'm not even sure if there real girls on there. Never met one just got a number. The we tried Match, 2 yrs got me one hook up I talked to about 15 different girls but they always canceled on me last minute. JOKE is what it is!

[QUOTE=OcCrazy;3438758]I agree with every word. I started out with POF had some luck. Then tried Zoosk its a complete rip off. I'm not even sure if there real girls on there. Never met one just got a number. The we tried Match, 2 yrs got me one hook up I talked to about 15 different girls but they always canceled on me last minute. JOKE is what it is![/QUOTE]I tended to have more luck with POF than cupid, but problem is now, I can't make a new account on POF. If you create and delete your account more than once, they block your IP address from being able to create new accounts. Apparently they think someone who creates new accounts more than a couple times is flaky or some such. In my case it was to make someone I'd met thru POF stop hassling me about my ad remaining on the site, so I had to delete it in front of her. Then when that ended, I went back to the site and it claimed there was too many sign ups from my area and they were accepting no more new sign ups locally. I googled it, and found out about their practice to block IP addresses who delete and sign up again later. It also links email addresses and such connected to it, so if you try starting another account using the same email, it blocks whatever device you try to sign up with, as well. I wish I'd have known that before I tried signing up on my phone LOL. I plan on using some other random email, and another unconnected phone to sign up again, but I haven't felt like dealing with the hassle, as of yet.

I also used to use Fuckbook fairly regular, until they started blocking your ability to send people your contact info. It makes no sense to block people, even those who pay for the site, from being able to send others contact info. They claim it's their way of protecting the members from being scammed, and having their identities stolen. I'm an adult. Let me deal with that. If I choose to be on your site, I'm accepting those risks. Don't block me from connecting with people and meeting in person. It's totally stupid. But anyway, most of the local women on that site the last several years aren't ever serious, and the ones that seem to be post pics which would make even the most desperate of men run away in terror. One woman on there had posted pics of her pussy which looked like rotten roast beef left out in the sun too long, and she got pissed saying no one ever wants to hook up. I wonder why.

[QUOTE=ClarkKent;3439125]I tended to have more luck with POF than cupid, but problem is now, I can't make a new account on POF. If you create and delete your account more than once, they block your IP address from being able to create new accounts. Apparently they think someone who creates new accounts more than a couple times is flaky or some such. In my case it was to make someone I'd met thru POF stop hassling me about my ad remaining on the site, so I had to delete it in front of her. Then when that ended, I went back to the site and it claimed there was too many sign ups from my area and they were accepting no more new sign ups locally. I googled it, and found out about their practice to block IP addresses who delete and sign up again later. It also links email addresses and such connected to it, so if you try starting another account using the same email, it blocks whatever device you try to sign up with, as well. I wish I'd have known that before I tried signing up on my phone LOL. I plan on using some other random email, and another unconnected phone to sign up again, but I haven't felt like dealing with the hassle, as of yet.

I also used to use Fuckbook fairly regular, until they started blocking your ability to send people your contact info. It makes no sense to block people, even those who pay for the site, from being able to send others contact info. They claim it's their way of protecting the members from being scammed, and having their identities stolen. I'm an adult. Let me deal with that. If I choose to be on your site, I'm accepting those risks. Don't block me from connecting with people and meeting in person. It's totally stupid. But anyway, most of the local women on that site the last several years aren't ever serious, and the ones that seem to be post pics which would make even the most desperate of men run away in terror. One woman on there had posted pics of her pussy which looked like rotten roast beef left out in the sun too long, and she got pissed saying no one ever wants to hook up. I wonder why.[/QUOTE]What I do on POF is instead of deleting my account if somebody starts catching feelings I click on Hide My Account. You can still get on there and look around at the fresh meat but nobody can see your activity. Works like a charm.

[QUOTE=OcCrazy;3440301]What I do on POF is instead of deleting my account if somebody starts catching feelings I click on Hide My Account. You can still get on there and look around at the fresh meat but nobody can see your activity. Works like a charm.[/QUOTE]True, but that doesn't help if they want you to do it in front of them, as was in my case. I didn't know POF was so anal about their site, either.

I have had some interesting times with CL, but never really bothered with POF. Oh I signed up with POF and looked around, and found 4 women I have known of over the years (Casually, no sex involved) that were absolute losers. I am talking about sickos. I would look again from time to time and see some really fine looking ones on there, and wonder why would they still be on there looking a year or so later? Hmm.

Close to 20 years ago, there was a radio station that started a free date line kind of thing. Over the phone, I made a free recording, and a chick responded the next day. What a hot piece of ass! She was between relationships, I did not want to get in one, so we became F Buddies. Since then, She has moved on thru 3 or 4 relationships, and will call me out of the blue, we set something up and bang away, and away She goes till who knows when. Good ass, and kinda like catching up with an old friend.

Hey, good times can be found without forking over a lot of coin.

Hell disregard my last question. Didn't think about the fact that I'm sitting here with the all knowing Google in my hand.

I used to use those party line / date line numbers fairly regular in the late 90's and early 2000's. Once you got used to how they worked, you could use them to your advantage without having to pay a dime. There was one that always advertised in the classified that you could call as often as you liked, and set up new accounts. They'd always give you one free response to someone, so I'd send ones I was interested in ways to contact me, as guys had no way to pick up their messages without paying, but girls could for free. I met a girl from that who was in the process of separating from her husband. The first time I hooked up with her, I went down to Cottondale to see her, then she subsequently moved to Trussville. For like three months, I was going to see her almost every night. She had a fetish where she liked giving blow jobs, and just liked to lay there and suck. Hey, no problem here LOL. She would seriously suck me for over an hour regularly. I've had no woman before or since that was into doing it to that extreme. Another girl I met up with as a result of that line was a girl from Jasper who told me she looked just like Alison Sweeney, and when I got there to pick her up, she was right. I've forgotten all the ways I went about conversing with the people from those lines. Back then you didn't have much choice, as the late 90's was right before I got online, and prior to me having a cell phone. I had a pager back then, and people could leave me messages on that, so I believe that's how I got my replies.

There was also another party line more recently, which I think might still be around, the Vibe Line. That's one that advertises on local TV late at night. When it first appeared I was frequently on that, as well. It used to allow you 30 minutes a month free access per line. And I used that to my advantage, as well. I used to have several home phone lines I could access, as well as cell phones. Back then there was also pay phones everywhere, and many you could just pull up to. On that one, you had access to sending messages to whoever was online, as well as sending messages to people who weren't online. I always just focused on who was online at the time, as they usually were looking for a immediate hookup. I found a girl who lived in Fairfield that I hooked up with fairly regular as a result of that line.

The more cell phones came into the mix, the less these lines were of use. People used to be more willing to just hook up. Nowadays, because it's more rare for someone to 'not' have a cell, they always want to pick and choose before they meet up.

[QUOTE=ClarkKent;3450461]I used to use those party line / date line numbers fairly regular in the late 90's and early 2000's. Once you got used to how they worked, you could use them to your advantage without having to pay a dime. There was one that always advertised in the classified that you could call as often as you liked, and set up new accounts. They'd always give you one free response to someone, so I'd send ones I was interested in ways to contact me, as guys had no way to pick up their messages without paying, but girls could for free. I met a girl from that who was in the process of separating from her husband. The first time I hooked up with her, I went down to Cottondale to see her, then she subsequently moved to Trussville. For like three months, I was going to see her almost every night. She had a fetish where she liked giving blow jobs, and just liked to lay there and suck. Hey, no problem here LOL. She would seriously suck me for over an hour regularly. I've had no woman before or since that was into doing it to that extreme. Another girl I met up with as a result of that line was a girl from Jasper who told me she looked just like Alison Sweeney, and when I got there to pick her up, she was right. I've forgotten all the ways I went about conversing with the people from those lines. Back then you didn't have much choice, as the late 90's was right before I got online, and prior to me having a cell phone. I had a pager back then, and people could leave me messages on that, so I believe that's how I got my replies.

There was also another party line more recently, which I think might still be around, the Vibe Line. That's one that advertises on local TV late at night. When it first appeared I was frequently on that, as well. It used to allow you 30 minutes a month free access per line. And I used that to my advantage, as well. I used to have several home phone lines I could access, as well as cell phones. Back then there was also pay phones everywhere, and many you could just pull up to. On that one, you had access to sending messages to whoever was online, as well as sending messages to people who weren't online. I always just focused on who was online at the time, as they usually were looking for a immediate hookup. I found a girl who lived in Fairfield that I hooked up with fairly regular as a result of that line.

The more cell phones came into the mix, the less these lines were of use. People used to be more willing to just hook up. Nowadays, because it's more rare for someone to 'not' have a cell, they always want to pick and choose before they meet up.[/QUOTE]I seem to remember one of those that had a local # to call. I forget the exchange, but the last 4 digits, spelled out, was either "meet" or "meat".

[QUOTE=JohnDeuce;3452337]I seem to remember one of those that had a local # to call. I forget the exchange, but the last 4 digits, spelled out, was either "meet" or "meat".[/QUOTE]That was one of them. It was something like 591 or 595 to start. They advertised forever in the classified in the paper, and the Thrifty Nickel. I used to regularly look at them for any new numbers that would pop up, because there was always various ways you could get on those lines for free.

Hey Clark! Been a while.

Posted a reply to you over on the streetwalkers board regarding your offer to give suggestions on the online dating sites and Craigslist. Then saw the post below and cannot remove or edit the post over there now.

Thanks for the tips! I don't monger anymore but check in here from time to time to see what's going on.

[QUOTE=ClarkKent;3454551]That was one of them. It was something like 591 or 595 to start. They advertised forever in the classified in the paper, and the Thrifty Nickel. I used to regularly look at them for any new numbers that would pop up, because there was always various ways you could get on those lines for free.[/QUOTE]I met several off of it back then. Messed up and talked to some of them over the line once. Blew the phone bill up that month. I forgot about the Thrifty Nickel. They even had a lot of personal classifieds back then. Met a lot there, too.

I am posting this here for lack of a good way to categorize how this deal went down. I have been at this hobby for a LONG time, like I have been a member of this forum since it was hosted on Paranoia Homepage and been grandfathered in twice as it changed hands and in all my time doing this, in places all over the world, it has never went down like this. So this is a for sure YMMV scenario.

On Tuesday, I ran into this chick at her way more lucrative than average dayjob. I smelled a bit of a spark and was flirting with her in the hopes of a nonpro hookup, and got to joking around with her and she made it claer that she has a boyfriend {turns out he is her handler, but again strange in that he was a really nice dude who seemed only interested in her safety} but that for the right price that wouldn't get in the way{FISH ON! She gave me her contact details and I called her that night after they had closed and we had a chat. She explained that she does some "selective sidework" but only on her off days or days she gets off early from her regular {again, pretty good for a retail gig} job. So I made an appointment for yesterday. She said I had to provide a place but that she didn't do homes unless her handler waited in earshot during so I decided to get a hotel room. When I told her that she said that she would tell me which hotel to get a room at when we had the "security screening meeting" and to meet her a particular Waffle House at X time. I showed up and she and her handler were there waiting. I sat down and we had a suprisingly nice cup of coffee as he grilled me a little and they both explained her terms and also gauged what I was looking for. Turns out that was a good thing because she definitely used that info to make my visit better! After a bit, when he seemed satisfied, her handler took my base fee{$260}, said if I wasn't COMPLETELY satisfied then to come talk to him after, sent her and I to a hotel basicly across the parkinglot and he stayed there for the duration.

I got the room {$40 ish bucks, it was the cheapest one at that exit}and we went in, did a cop check, she called him and told him which room #, and got comfortable. She insisted on us taking a shower together where she was super helpful and playful with the soap and washcloth. We got out, she dried us off, and we went to the bed and she went to work. WOW. SHe laid me down and started with a porno level DTBBBJCIMWS. She looked up giggled and said "That seems like a good start. " we lay there and talked / cuddled / rubbed down for about 30-45 min, VERY GFE, and when I was ready she offereed Greek for a $ upsell {she had in a fairly substancial plug and was lubed already that she must of had in in the restaurant} but I wasnt interested so she covered me and we cowboyed until I popped HARD. Now at that point I thought we were done but she said she thought I wasnt "empty" so she offered to hang out for a little while to see if we could "get one more and clean you out entirely". Momma didn't raise no fool so I wanted to stay, but I was wrung out like an old dish sponge and was completly satisfied already so I told her so. She seemed to really like that. So she took me back in the bathroom, cleaned me up, and insisted on dressing me and tying my shoes for me, she made me wait for a couple of min shile she got her shit together and then escorted me back to the parkinglot. Dude saw us, finished his soda, paid and came out to meet us. He asked me if I was "happy' and I FOR DAMN SURE was, and told him so. They then explained that they are looking to set up "long term regular clients"{I'm FUCKING IN on that deal. WILL REPEAT if at all possible} and also were looking to "expand their client pool but on a limited basis", so since it worked out with me for me to tell my friends.

Now, I am a old time lurker here so Senior Members PM me for contact info but that is no gaurentee that I will forward it because if I think you are a douchebag or cop I'm not going to spoil this deal by telling you.

Girl: Honey.

Age: Late 20's.

Hair: Sandy Brown, Long.

Eyes: Blue.

Face: 6, but would be hotter if she wore makeup.

Body: 8, med hight 130 ish lbs. No baby damage at all, nice round butt but with just a few cellulite dimples.

Tattoos: No, but she wore a thick leather collar that she refused to remove or even let me touch.

Service: OFF THE DAMN CART 11++.

Damage: just over $$ 260+room and a coffee, an OUTSTANDING value but too steep on the frontside for some of you lousy cheapass pricks.

Oral: BBBJ w / CIM, DT and SWALLOW!

Standard: Yes, Covered and no doggy{we tried but her stuff doesn't line up good for it for 9 out of 10 guys she said}.

Greek: didn't try, but was offered at +$.

GFE: YES! As a matter of fact I don't think she would do it any other way.

Clean: Super DDF, No signs of recreational use and I suspect with her dayjob she couldn't if she wanted to.

For all those reasons I suspect this is a non / semipro doing it for the thrill and some extra cash.

Based on her untouchable leather collar and the demeanor of her bf / handler, they're almost certainly a D / S couple and she's doing this to satisfy HIS fetish.

[QUOTE=Molosus;3469813]I am posting this here for lack of a good way to categorize how this deal went down. I have been at this hobby for a LONG time, like I have been a member of this forum since it was hosted on Paranoia Homepage and been grandfathered in twice as it changed hands and in all my time doing this, in places all over the world, it has never went down like this. So this is a for sure YMMV scenario.

On Tuesday, I ran into this chick at her way more lucrative than average dayjob. I smelled a bit of a spark and was flirting with her in the hopes of a nonpro hookup, and got to joking around with her and she made it claer that she has a boyfriend {turns out he is her handler, but again strange in that he was a really nice dude who seemed only interested in her safety} but that for the right price that wouldn't get in the way{FISH ON! She gave me her contact details and I called her that night after they had closed and we had a chat. She explained that she does some "selective sidework" but only on her off days or days she gets off early from her regular {again, pretty good for a retail gig} job. So I made an appointment for yesterday. She said I had to provide a place but that she didn't do homes unless her handler waited in earshot during so I decided to get a hotel room. When I told her that she said that she would tell me which hotel to get a room at when we had the "security screening meeting" and to meet her a particular Waffle House at X time. I showed up and she and her handler were there waiting. I sat down and we had a suprisingly nice cup of coffee as he grilled me a little and they both explained her terms and also gauged what I was looking for. Turns out that was a good thing because she definitely used that info to make my visit better! After a bit, when he seemed satisfied, her handler took my base fee{$260}, said if I wasn't COMPLETELY satisfied then to come talk to him after, sent her and I to a hotel basicly across the parkinglot and he stayed there for the duration.

I got the room {$40 ish bucks, it was the cheapest one at that exit}and we went in, did a cop check, she called him and told him which room #, and got comfortable. She insisted on us taking a shower together where she was super helpful and playful with the soap and washcloth. We got out, she dried us off, and we went to the bed and she went to work. WOW. SHe laid me down and started with a porno level DTBBBJCIMWS. She looked up giggled and said "That seems like a good start. " we lay there and talked / cuddled / rubbed down for about 30-45 min, VERY GFE, and when I was ready she offereed Greek for a $ upsell {she had in a fairly substancial plug and was lubed already that she must of had in in the restaurant} but I wasnt interested so she covered me and we cowboyed until I popped HARD. Now at that point I thought we were done but she said she thought I wasnt "empty" so she offered to hang out for a little while to see if we could "get one more and clean you out entirely". Momma didn't raise no fool so I wanted to stay, but I was wrung out like an old dish sponge and was completly satisfied already so I told her so. She seemed to really like that. So she took me back in the bathroom, cleaned me up, and insisted on dressing me and tying my shoes for me, she made me wait for a couple of min shile she got her shit together and then escorted me back to the parkinglot. Dude saw us, finished his soda, paid and came out to meet us. He asked me if I was "happy' and I FOR DAMN SURE was, and told him so. They then explained that they are looking to set up "long term regular clients"{I'm FUCKING IN on that deal. WILL REPEAT if at all possible} and also were looking to "expand their client pool but on a limited basis", so since it worked out with me for me to tell my friends.

Now, I am a old time lurker here so Senior Members PM me for contact info but that is no gaurentee that I will forward it because if I think you are a douchebag or cop I'm not going to spoil this deal by telling you.

Girl: Honey.

Age: Late 20's.

Hair: Sandy Brown, Long.

Eyes: Blue.

Face: 6, but would be hotter if she wore makeup.

Body: 8, med hight 130 ish lbs. No baby damage at all, nice round butt but with just a few cellulite dimples.

Tattoos: No, but she wore a thick leather collar that she refused to remove or even let me touch.

Service: OFF THE DAMN CART 11++.

Damage: just over $$ 260+room and a coffee, an OUTSTANDING value but too steep on the frontside for some of you lousy cheapass pricks.

Oral: BBBJ w / CIM, DT and SWALLOW!

Standard: Yes, Covered and no doggy{we tried but her stuff doesn't line up good for it for 9 out of 10 guys she said}.

Greek: didn't try, but was offered at +$.

GFE: YES! As a matter of fact I don't think she would do it any other way.

Clean: Super DDF, No signs of recreational use and I suspect with her dayjob she couldn't if she wanted to.

For all those reasons I suspect this is a non / semipro doing it for the thrill and some extra cash.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrackWebb;3470153] they're almost certainly a D / S couple and she's doing this to satisfy HIS fetish.[/QUOTE]That thought had crossed my mind, but she was without a doubt into it herself. To me that seems like a "value added" sort of think because she may do kinky shit for the right price. Again, the only attempt at upsell was the Greek thing and she only asked once.

Damage: just over $$ 260+room and a coffee, an OUTSTANDING value but too steep on the frontside for some of you lousy cheapass pricks.

Count me in the cheapass prick category; I'll categorize you as temporarily crazy.

Overworked, underpaid UTR ladies can be found in many work places; wam, bam, $20/$30 Mame; numerous times. Or 5 $60 30-40 min. Sessions.