Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Darkman808;5691346]Just saying the providers here aren't exactly getting rich, unless they jumping on 12-18 dicks a day. Who wants that? Not me.[/QUOTE]The whole point of girls getting into this line of work is the money. I think guys here need to remember that. What Asian FOB girls at AMPs are very good at is making you feel like a boyfriend. So I think a lot of people get things confused and they forget the girl's "why".

What's their "why"? Not to find a BF. But to make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.

And someone is inevitably going to bring up, "Well if a girl hops on 5 dicks a day, that's $1000/ day! I don't make $1000/ day!

Which is true (for most of us). But being a woman is expensive. Ask you sister or aunts or friends who are women how much they spend on cosmetics, skin care, hair and all that other stuff. It's a lot of money. Take into account that a lot of women get plastic surgery and that's even more money.

She's also having sex with guys that really, she's not attracted to you. Sorry to burst your bubble if you didn't know this, but those girls wouldn't fuck most of you if it wasn't for the money. (Also, Santa isn't real.) So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door, even the ones you would never have had sex to begin with and have no connection to, how much would you want to be paid? (Yes, I know. For some if you youre dating or married to that person. Merry Christmas and Im glad Im not you.)

PLUS, youre fucking multiple guys a day who are screwing like they just got out of prison. These reviews read like all of you are Erik Everhard, which I dont believe, but even if thats a few of you, thats a lot of wear on tear on a pussy. Times that by five a day, for five or six days a week, see how that could turn out?

Sex work is work.

DangerBoy is again absolutely right. Another motivation for why these girls work these jobs is because some of them come from unfortunate circumstances and have had hard lives. Many of them have financial obligations back home or are the sole breadwinner for their families. So they work these jobs, because as the poster pointed out, they need to make big money in as little time as possible. With increasing inflation and the many risks with working this job, they are going to ask for higher prices.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691523]The whole point of girls getting into this line of work is the money. I think guys here need to remember that. What Asian FOB girls at AMPs are very good at is making you feel like a boyfriend. So I think a lot of people get things confused and they forget the girl's "why".

What's their "why"? Not to find a BF. But to make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.

And someone is inevitably going to bring up, "Well if a girl hops on 5 dicks a day, that's $1000/ day! I don't make $1000/ day!

Which is true (for most of us). But being a woman is expensive. Ask you sister or aunts or friends who are women how much they spend on cosmetics, skin care, hair and all that other stuff. It's a lot of money. Take into account that a lot of women get plastic surgery and that's even more money.

She's also having sex with guys that really, she's not attracted to you. Sorry to burst your bubble if you didn't know this, but those girls wouldn't fuck most of you if it wasn't for the money. (Also, Santa isn't real.) So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door, even the ones you would never have had sex to begin with and have no connection to, how much would you want to be paid? (Yes, I know. For some if you youre dating or married to that person..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691494]I don't know what you think "overpaying" is, but the impression I'm getting is that you believe $201 would be overpaying.

Trust me, you'd get run out of an AMP for a $200 tip and expecting FS, never mind BBFS, BBFSCIP or anal, from one of the girls anywhere else in the US.

They don't care that things are more expensive here and that everyone here makes less. They're working. They're not social workers. While you want to pay as little as possible they want to extract as much from you as possible. Theyre not your friends. Theyre not your girlfriends. Theyre in business.

And yes, you can choose not to patronize the girls who expect more. But there's other markets (literally the rest of the US) where they can make more for doing the same amount of work or less, and they'll go there. That's literally how capitalism works.

Meanwhile, you're stuck with the same women. If you want to see new girls you have to hop on a plane and guess what? Now you're paying more because everywhere else in the US the rates are more expensive than the AMPs here. And the AMPs here slowly decay until the girls they have age out and the mamas can't attract new talent because of that $200 line that hasn't budged.

So maybe it's not a question of underpaying, but a problem of the guys underpaying.[/QUOTE]Agree with your many excellent points.

I also understand the difference between guys who can barely afford the $250-$300 to get laid at a local AMP and the visiting girls who 'demand' $800-$1000 a pop. Like many other things, girls charge (and earn) what the market will bear. Hawaii is a "low ball" location from their point of view. They even say so in their ads!

Many visiting chicks only come here for the fun and 'work' a few days here to offset the cost of the trip, if they can get a few high rollers to pay, it's a bonus for them.

But as DangerBoy says, It's still "work!

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691523]The whole point of girls getting into this line of work is the money. I think guys here need to remember that. What Asian FOB girls at AMPs are very good at is making you feel like a boyfriend. So I think a lot of people get things confused and they forget the girl's "why".

What's their "why"? Not to find a BF. But to make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.

And someone is inevitably going to bring up, "Well if a girl hops on 5 dicks a day, that's $1000/ day! I don't make $1000/ day!

Which is true (for most of us). But being a woman is expensive. Ask you sister or aunts or friends who are women how much they spend on cosmetics, skin care, hair and all that other stuff. It's a lot of money. Take into account that a lot of women get plastic surgery and that's even more money.

She's also having sex with guys that really, she's not attracted to you. Sorry to burst your bubble if you didn't know this, but those girls wouldn't fuck most of you if it wasn't for the money. (Also, Santa isn't real.) So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door, even the ones you would never have had sex to begin with and have no connection to, how much would you want to be paid? (Yes, I know. For some if you youre dating or married to that person. Merry Christmas and Im glad Im not you.)

PLUS, youre fucking multiple guys a day who are screwing like they just got out of prison. These reviews read like all of you are Erik Everhard, which I dont believe, but even if thats a few of you, thats a lot of wear on tear on a pussy. Times that by five a day, for five or six days a week, see how that could turn out?

Sex work is work.[/QUOTE]I don't get why the fixation on $200 for the last umpteen years. It's no wonder that Honolulu doesn't get any young providers. Or if one shows up, she won't stay very long. We got just MILFs and GILFs here. It's going to be year 2022 soon. Inflation affects everything. And the working women actually don't clear $200 each customer. $50 is for house and the women also have to pay a cut to mama and also for food. So the AMP providers may only be clearing around $130-140 for theirselves out of a $200 customer. If you want the finest wine, you got to pay the price. For example, if the going rate was like $350-400, I'm sure AMP owners would have a much easier time to recruit younger and hotter talent to come out to Honolulu.

[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5691796]I don't get why the fixation on $200 for the last umpteen years. It's no wonder that Honolulu doesn't get any young providers. Or if one shows up, she won't stay very long. We got just MILFs and GILFs here. It's going to be year 2022 soon. Inflation affects everything. And the working women actually don't clear $200 each customer. $50 is for house and the women also have to pay a cut to mama and also for food. So the AMP providers may only be clearing around $130-140 for theirselves out of a $200 customer. If you want the finest wine, you got to pay the price. For example, if the going rate was like $350-400, I'm sure AMP owners would have a much easier time to recruit younger and hotter talent to come out to Honolulu.[/QUOTE]You're right about the MILFs and GILFs. I got conned by several reviews into thinking a provider was young and hot.

[QUOTE=Lknfrpssy;5692473]You're right about the MILFs and GILFs. I got conned by several reviews into thinking a provider was young and hot.[/QUOTE]"How old is she?

"Oh she's pretty young. In her 40's. ".

"WTF?

[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5691796]I don't get why the fixation on $200 for the last umpteen years.[/QUOTE]I think that was the tip that was the agreed-on standard in the late '90's or 2000's and it never changed for whatever reason. I don't understand why inflation or market forces didn't drive up prices either. It's like minimum wage, I suppose.

But as it's been pointed out, the crackdown on AMPs is a fairly new thing. A girl in a parlor could work 8 hours five days a week and have a good living in Hawaii, and not have to worry about looking over her shoulder for LE with all the costs associated with it (bail, lawyers). I suppose that might be a reason why the rate never went up. Twenty, 25 years later that girl who was 25 is 50 and still here because she's comfortable and settled in. But that $200 tip won't attract anyone younger to work here.

[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5691796]For example, if the going rate was like $350-400, I'm sure AMP owners would have a much easier time to recruit younger and hotter talent to come out to Honolulu.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking more like $500 for 45 minutes. And that's not including extras like BBBJ, BBFS and anal.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5692738]I think that was the tip that was the agreed-on standard in the late '90's or 2000's and it never changed for whatever reason. I don't understand why inflation or market forces didn't drive up prices either. It's like minimum wage, I suppose.

But as it's been pointed out, the crackdown on AMPs is a fairly new thing. A girl in a parlor could work 8 hours five days a week and have a good living in Hawaii, and not have to worry about looking over her shoulder for LE with all the costs associated with it (bail, lawyers). I suppose that might be a reason why the rate never went up. Twenty, 25 years later that girl who was 25 is 50 and still here because she's comfortable and settled in. But that $200 tip won't attract anyone younger to work here.

I'm thinking more like $500 for 45 minutes. And that's not including extras like BBBJ, BBFS and anal.[/QUOTE]Some of my fav atf said she did not know how to find "messenger" for new place to work in mainland but recently got info about it. And no reason to deal with Hawaii demanding too much (too much bb pressure, too many big mouths) and planning to leave Hawaii scene soon.

When Hawaii stuck girls try, they can find way to go to mainland. Girls left and left overs (relatively young and toned ones) are planning to leave.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5692705]"How old is she?

"Oh she's pretty young. In her 40's. ".

"WTF?[/QUOTE]If you're and old in his 70's, a 50 why / o woman is "young".

If you're a big fat 400 lbs slob, a 250 lbs provider is "curvy" to you.

Some reviews compared to other reviews are great reading! Always worth a humorous perspective.

Or whatever it's called. Avoid. Safe your money. Just got back. Huge regret and waste of $$.

House is in Kalihi, residential neighbourhood.

Pics not fucking accurate.

Lady was over 40 yrs. Well over weight but I didn't have the heart to leave. She hid behind the door when answering plus I was hoping she was the mama. No she was the talent.

Massage. Avg to poor. Bbj. I had to close my eyes. Told her to stop and finished with HJ.

Worse part is at the beginning she wanted $$ Gave her $$ but was $$ too much.

Don't bother, this is also a part of the Chinese Connection.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;5691523]The whole point of girls getting into this line of work is the money. I think guys here need to remember that. What Asian FOB girls at AMPs are very good at is making you feel like a boyfriend. So I think a lot of people get things confused and they forget the girl's "why".

What's their "why"? Not to find a BF. But to make the most amount of money as quickly as possible.

And someone is inevitably going to bring up, "Well if a girl hops on 5 dicks a day, that's $1000/ day! I don't make $1000/ day!

Which is true (for most of us). But being a woman is expensive. Ask you sister or aunts or friends who are women how much they spend on cosmetics, skin care, hair and all that other stuff. It's a lot of money. Take into account that a lot of women get plastic surgery and that's even more money.[/QUOTE]I am going to disagree with the " So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door". You are screened on the phone, at the door and in the room by the mama and the girls. I have asked them and they said they don't have to take the drunk or gross men. They can also decline FS and BJ and have you settle for a HJ. They also have their own usasexguide were they weed out customers with bad reputations or don't tip.

[QUOTE=Lknfrpssy;5692473]You're right about the MILFs and GILFs. I got conned by several reviews into thinking a provider was young and hot.[/QUOTE]I don't think most of these over the top reviews were meant to deceive. I learned that if a provider performs a certain service (s) or fulfills a certain personal looks or taste standard, some mongers will automatically upgrade the review. Also, like other have said, if you are in your 70's, 40's is the new 20's.

[QUOTE=ExitOnly;5693205]I don't think most of these over the top reviews were meant to deceive. I learned that if a provider performs a certain service (s) or fulfills a certain personal looks or taste standard, some mongers will automatically upgrade the review. Also, like other have said, if you are in your 70's, 40's is the new 20's.[/QUOTE]Barenack Gilfs seem to get higher score when it comes to age and looks than real.

Curvy in good way of bb girl a often means "she is overweight".

Most mongers here never care about waist-hip ratio at all. It is though my own standard when I rate women's body. I prefer thin waist+wide hip with small breasts than boyish narrow pelvic with fake big boobs.

[QUOTE=HawaiianNono;5693131]I am going to disagree with the " So if you had a job where you had to have sex with anyone who came thorough the door". You are screened on the phone, at the door and in the room by the mama and the girls. I have asked them and they said they don't have to take the drunk or gross men. They can also decline FS and BJ and have you settle for a HJ. They also have their own usasexguide were they weed out customers with bad reputations or don't tip.[/QUOTE]And now with limited providers for AMPs (that guys can get easier access to) share "motherfucker lists".

Many keep their own lists of blacklisted males. If he is in one shop's or one pro's asshole lists, he will be rejected even when he calls. "Automatic voice mail".

[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;5691796]I don't get why the fixation on $200 for the last umpteen years. It's no wonder that Honolulu doesn't get any young providers. Or if one shows up, she won't stay very long. We got just MILFs and GILFs here. It's going to be year 2022 soon. Inflation affects everything. And the working women actually don't clear $200 each customer. $50 is for house and the women also have to pay a cut to mama and also for food. So the AMP providers may only be clearing around $130-140 for theirselves out of a $200 customer. If you want the finest wine, you got to pay the price. For example, if the going rate was like $350-400, I'm sure AMP owners would have a much easier time to recruit younger and hotter talent to come out to Honolulu.[/QUOTE]I don't think they (relaxation workers) pay taxes. For the average Joe in HI, 200 or 210 or whatever he is paying is a lot of money for services rendered. A lot of married men would like to go out and fuck someone else for a change, but they stay home because they can't afford it. However, there are also the well to do guys that can afford it and pay whatever. In my humble opinion the providers pay little taxes if any or nothing at all. As for me during my career as a monger, I have spent enough money and it was well worth it. Wish I could afford to get one every night. Good old days. Thailand for a year.