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[QUOTE=ElJudoka;1706791]It doesn't sound like there is much more then a good HE available at the massage parlors here in GR. I have been to Royal, Pacific 44th, Massage Paradise with no luck. I am not looking for FS but would like more then the HE. Does anyone have suggestions on where I should try? I am going to have some free time the first week in April and am trying to decide where to go. I may have to look outside of GR but would rather not spend my money on gas.[/QUOTE]Only had a BBBJ once at East West and I've been going to AMP for a couple of years. Guess I was at the right place at the right time that day.
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Lansing
[QUOTE=ElJudoka;1706791]It doesn't sound like there is much more then a good HE available at the massage parlors here in GR. I have been to Royal, Pacific 44th, Massage Paradise with no luck. I am not looking for FS but would like more then the HE. Does anyone have suggestions on where I should try? I am going to have some free time the first week in April and am trying to decide where to go. I may have to look outside of GR but would rather not spend my money on gas.[/QUOTE]Lansing Accupressure.
Or go to Hawaii Spa and see Micki.
I too cannot find more than HE in GR and an AMP.
Maybe others can report on Panacea as I've not been there.
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[QUOTE=ElJudoka;1706791]It doesn't sound like there is much more then a good HE available at the massage parlors here in GR. I have been to Royal, Pacific 44th, Massage Paradise with no luck. I am not looking for FS but would like more then the HE. Does anyone have suggestions on where I should try? I am going to have some free time the first week in April and am trying to decide where to go. I may have to look outside of GR but would rather not spend my money on gas.[/QUOTE]It doesn't get much air time here, but the Rainbow Spa on Eastern is similiar to the lansing AMP's in that FS is available, pricing is pretty typical of the lansing AMP's, the ladies don't look as good and the service is somewhat uninspired. But you can get what you desire there. Only sure bet I know of in GR.
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[QUOTE=Snagger; 1703299]Had a chance to visit Pacific. The facility rates a 10. Very clean, polite and comfortable. It was my first visit so I assume my menu was limited. Had a great massage from Heidi. However no top down and no reverse (I love doing that) but a good quality HE for my first visit. I'll give it a try again and see if the menu expands. If not, I'll return to Pancea. However I really appreciate a facility with showers.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I agree with you on Pacific being clean & discreet / polite. I think Heidi gives a great massage, but as others have said, her menu will not expand. I saw her 4 times in a couple week time frame and increased my tip each time. Same massage, same ending. I wondered what (if anything) would change if I presented the same amount you would pay at Hawaii to see Micki. But skepticism gave in. Too bad, Heidi is cute & fun. But. Its not to say "don't go see her" if you are looking for a fun time at an AMP, a spirited non-mechanical HE, AND get a good massage (this doesn't always happen), Heidi is your girl.
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Katie Panacea
Had a chance to see Katie recently. I called ahead and asked for Natasha, but she was already booked for the day. I was planning an hour appointment, but the girls were going on a shift change in 40 minutes, so I opted for 30.
Never being there before it was a nice looking place. Tucked behind an office complex, I parked right in front of the door.
The room was nice and very warm. No money was discussed up front. She left as I got comfortable.
She came in and started on my legs. She gives a good massage. We made some small talk. When she got to my back, she asked if she could get on the table, I told her that wasn't a problem.
She said that she was hot and went to move the heater. I told her she could get more comfortable if she got hot. She took her top off and laughed. Nice B's, pierced. She got some tats, on her side, back and neck, but that's a turn on for me.
After about 15, she asked if I was ready to flip. I asked her if she should continue the massage for a few more minutes. I got some attention to the boys as she leaned over me topless.
I flipped and she rubbed my legs and made her way up. She teased me some more. She got up on the table as she started on on the ending. I was allowed COB. She let me lick and kiss those piercings, which was interesting.
Pros:
No stress, no cash discussed.
She's cute, my type of girl and very easy going.
Comfy room and table, warm.
Took her time, no rushing.
Made some hot moaning noises as I got close. It made me crazy.
Great massage.
Great ending, not mechanical at all.
Cons:
Didn't quite get my 30 min, but it was close, she took her time and I appreciate that.
Only was able to get 1/2 hour after an hour drive.
Paid. 4 for the half hour and. 4 for the topless HE.
I'd love to repeat and try a different girl next time. Just want to see what's available. I would recommend Katie, she's a great girl.
[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classifieds/EnlargeImage?categoryKey=BodyRubs&categoryKey=BodyRubs&oid=11277947&image=11518271[/url]
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[QUOTE=NecroChaos1;1707591][url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classifieds/EnlargeImage?categoryKey=BodyRubs&categoryKey=BodyRubs&oid=11277947&image=11518271[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link. I haven't seen the pics of the girls.
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Megan
Ok, I've seen this one a few 6 times in total, and nothing to be had outside of a pretty decent rub. She's a very sweet girl, great conversation, but just isn't interested in anything further than a massage. What a pity, she kinda has a zoey deschanel thing going. The first 3 times I saw her, was at a medical marijuana counseling center. The second 3 times at her own private office. I guess I'll go back again when I'm in the mood for a rub without any sort of HE.
[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-by-megan/10187882[/url]
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Ava at Panacea
Was in GR this week and tried out the Panacea for the first time. Saw Ava. She is really a looker! Long hair brunette and slim and tiny. Those little hands gave a great message and the HE on the flip was terrific! Thanks to all for the reports on this place.
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Who's who at E / W
[url]http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/3692760984.html[/url]
Who's who in these photos?
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Who's at EW.
[QUOTE=Asikkej12; 1711202][url]http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/3692760984.html[/url]
Who's who in these photos?[/QUOTE]Good question! I called them today asking the same question. They said the girls don't like their names attached to the photos. They said Sidney isn't there either. I'd be interested in any onfo about her, especially since she has a flat fee of 150. Anyone know what does that includes?
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[QUOTE=Asikkej12; 1711202][url]http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/3692760984.html[/url]
Who's who in these photos?[/QUOTE]Alma is top left, a sweety.
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[QUOTE=Blackfire;1706954]It doesn't get much air time here, but the Rainbow Spa on Eastern is similiar to the lansing AMP's in that FS is available, pricing is pretty typical of the lansing AMP's, the ladies don't look as good and the service is somewhat uninspired. But you can get what you desire there. Only sure bet I know of in GR.[/QUOTE]REALLY? I was at Rainbow THREE different times and didn't get so much as an accidental brush on my fellas!
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E / w
[QUOTE=Asikkej12; 1711202][url]http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/3692760984.html[/url]
Who's who in these photos?[/QUOTE]I know a couple of names. Please check for PM sent Monday.
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E / w
Visited east west again Friday. They have a good staff working. Saw Sandy again and was excellent. Any other recommendations?
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Tami at Pacific
Saw tami at Pacific on 44th the other day. Heidi I was told has moved to do doing nails upstairs.
Tami appears to me to be Filipino. But I'm not sure really. About 40+ and like all Eastern girls is thin.
She gives a decent massage. About a 6.5 on a scale 1-10. I know from seeing her before HE is a given.
She will allow you to pull up her top and bra but not unclasp it. I played with her boobs the whole time while she finished massaging my little friend.
I asked if she would do a BJ since she knew me from past visits but like all at Pacific she declined.
60 house +40 tip.
Tip is never negotiated verbally or given in the room. A reason I like Pacific. I tip as I deem fit based on service.
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Natasha at Panacea
What more can be said that hasn't already been said about this beauty. I made an appointment with her this past Saturday and as always my time with her was well spent. If you don't know Natasha yet, she is gorgeous and very easy to talk with. Never a break in conversation. She gives a light to medium pressure massage which is very relaxing. Although panacea girls do not offer FS or BJ, that's fine by me. If you want a class act experience then I would highly recommend Natasha, make sure to call ahead though for her because she books up fast. Every woman I have seen there has been gorgeous, you won't regret any decision there. Although I'm a regular for Natasha and won't switch to another for a regular, I may have to try Summer sometime, she looks really cute also. Anybody have any experiences with her? PM me if you'd like.
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BrookeatEW
Saw BrookeatEW on Friday. Nice body, although she does have a bit of a scar from a C-section. Massage was pretty decent. She's an ex-Panacea girl. Flip was routine, although she did get almost as undressed as I was. It was that time of month otherwise she would've been in a similar state as me. Only slight roaming was allowed. Standard finish was all that was available. She told me none of the girls at EW do anything more than that now. Tip was the same amount as the 90 minute session fee.
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[QUOTE=Sjc9293;1721620]Saw BrookeatEW on Friday. Nice body, although she does have a bit of a scar from a C-section. Massage was pretty decent. She's an ex-Panacea girl. Flip was routine, although she did get almost as undressed as I was. It was that time of month otherwise she would've been in a similar state as me. Only slight roaming was allowed. Standard finish was all that was available. She told me none of the girls at EW do anything more than that now. Tip was the same amount as the 90 minute session fee.[/QUOTE]I have a couple questions.
#1) Did you mean to type "90 minute session"? If so how much was it?
#2) Tip same as session rate seems very high for just HE if that's what you got. Just not sure what the total amount was, report was not specific.
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[QUOTE=DexMorgan22;1705035]How does one contact her?[/QUOTE]You may in box me for her info if you like.
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Pricing Question
[QUOTE=SSurfer; 1694917]Good question!
I find myself wanting to use $20 as a general rule of thumb as well. I will tip $40 for a HE with some enthusiasm.
My experience as a whole is this based on services: Usually $40 at Panacia, $20 to $40 at EW, $20 at Pacific. I have only been asked for a specific amount at EW. Other times it was left up to me after the session.[/QUOTE]I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?
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[QUOTE=GMacMan;1723230]I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]In most cases the gal is better looking. That in my mind justifies the higher price.
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[QUOTE=GMacMan;1723230]I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]It's really just a matter of preference or safety reasons. MP's imo are a safer route for acquiring extras. I definitely feel more at ease going to a MP. I prefer BP girls cause there is that added rush for me.
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Price vs value
[QUOTE=GMacMan;1723230]I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]I generally agree with you. I prefer to see BP girls for the same reasons you note.
A couple reasons I go to AMPs too though:
I can walk in anytime without an appt. And get service. If the mood hits me 5 mins before my lunch break for instance. My luck setting up and getting to a BP girl appt. In that scenario has been poor. Closest I came to that was a regular SW turned on call I used to see before she flaked out.
Another reason as another said below is safety. In an AMP you're safe. No pimp waiting, no cash+dash. Basically no risk at all. Even well reviewed providers turn, as we've all read here before.
Lastly, I like a massage anyway. The HE s frankly just an added service to the massage.
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[QUOTE=Monger01; 1723519]I generally agree with you. I prefer to see BP girls for the same reasons you note.
A couple reasons I go to AMPs too though:
I can walk in anytime without an appt. And get service. If the mood hits me 5 mins before my lunch break for instance. My luck setting up and getting to a BP girl appt. In that scenario has been poor. Closest I came to that was a regular SW turned on call I used to see before she flaked out.
Another reason as another said below is safety. In an AMP you're safe. No pimp waiting, no cash+dash. Basically no risk at all. Even well reviewed providers turn, as we've all read here before.
Lastly, I like a massage anyway. The HE s frankly just an added service to the massage.[/QUOTE]In agreement with this. For me there is value in the convenience of being able to call last minute or just walk in. Even when I schedule ahead with a BP or CL masseuse, I seem to end up with a timing conflict.
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Panacea / Pacific
Figured I haven't added any value to here lately so here is an update on my recent romps. One of which is in the wrong section, but I'm tired and feeling rather lazy this morning.
Panacea;
Saw Molly recently, nice enough girl, talked my ear off (sports mainly). Wasn't the worst massage ever, definately doesn't compete with others I have received. HE was less than stellar, she tried so hard though so got to give her credit.
Natasha is my regular, for those of you who haven't experienced this gem, your missing out as far as GR MP's are concerned. Awesome personality, loads of fun for sure.
Pacific;
Felt the urge to return to Anita again. This girl is smokin hot, HE is above average. Massage is better than some.
Used to frequent Heidi, but as I understand she has moved on, incase she hasn't and you have the pleasure. She is older, but gives a good massage. Loves to tease, which for me is a huge plus. I prefer a massage which is good, provides numerous occasions of touching, nudging, teasing. And the HE ain't bad at all.
Trista;
Massage is good, thats about it for me. Attitude is ehh, HE is ehh. Just not worth it imo.
BP Kelly;
Rockstar, nothing more needs to be said. I've never had an issue setting up with her.
If you need more info, shoot me a pm. And if any of you know of another AMP girl that loves to tease, please let me know.
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[QUOTE=GMacMan;1723230]I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]I think a lot of mongers pay for uncertainty, and the excitement that it brings. Will I get a HE? Will I get a BJ or FS? I've had enough disappointment in MPs to last a lifetime, so I'd have to hit the lottery before I'd go to MPs on a regular basis. The disappointment fucked me up for a number of years. I want a sure thing. If I ever went to an MP, I'd want enough cash to get satisfaction, if the MP experience sucked.
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Ava at Panacea
Paid my fourth visit to Panacea and enjoyed Ava. She is petite (although she used to be very heavy) and cute. The massage was a little to mechanical for me. Not much teasing, playing or just enjoying the event. Just another day at the office. She got comfotable up to a point and did allow a reciprocal massage. In order of preferance, my previus experiences were better: Trista, Natalie and "Summer's sister" (can't remember her name).
Anyone have experience with Sarah at Pacific?
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What do we like?
[QUOTE=Jaynna45;1526452]Hi guys I am a provider, I am curious what it is exactly that makes you like your appt? I hear several comments on what was NOT received, as opposed to what a great location or she offers a great atmosphere, are these things types of things that you don't really care about? I mean what if you have great conversation while receiving a fantastic massage, doesn't that count for anything these days? I hear many comments on no additional services offered, but not any comments on how the actual massage was? I personally give a great massage. So this is purely out of curiousness that I am asking. Thank you in advance for any info, I like to tailor my services to my clientele.[/QUOTE]I'm going to preface this by saying usasexguide. Info might not be the best place to find a balanced sample of clients, because most of us are here to find out where we'll get our dick touched.
That said, if I'm just looking for a good massage. It's very important that there are no interruptions, be it phone calls, constant texting, someone knocking on the door, the provider leaving the room for 10 minuts. All of which have happend durring my appointments multiple times. I don't mind a little conversation, but some guys might just prefer silence, it doesn't hurt to ask. Music in general is okay, but I'd prefer silence to that cliche oriental folk track on repeat.
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[QUOTE=MartinGr; 1725706]I'm going to preface this by saying usasexguide. Info might not be the best place to find a balanced sample of clients, because most of us are here to find out where we'll get our dick touched.
That said, if I'm just looking for a good massage. It's very important that there are no interruptions, be it phone calls, constant texting, someone knocking on the door, the provider leaving the room for 10 minuts. All of which have happend durring my appointments multiple times. I don't mind a little conversation, but some guys might just prefer silence, it doesn't hurt to ask. Music in general is okay, but I'd prefer silence to that cliche oriental folk track on repeat.[/QUOTE]So why are we responding to a 7 month old entry?
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[QUOTE=Asianplvr;1725798]So why are we responding to a 7 month old entry?[/QUOTE]I stumbled across it by accident and didn't notice how old it was, I thought I deleted it but oh well.
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First Time at Royal
First time recently at Royal now that Heidi at Pacific is doing nails. Super clean place and much nicer overall than any of the MPs I've been to. They have a shower but I'm guessing its like Pacific as in nothing happens there but nice to get the oil off afterward. I saw Lindsey for a hh, $40 upfront, $40 tip. Massage was decent but not great and no playing with the boys either. On the flip I actually wondered if anything was going to happen and a really good he was enjoyed! Nice surprise ending I guess. Lindsey is a little overweight but nice big natural titties and she's young so that made up for it. I'd say I'd repeat.
Anyone else have a girl there they like / any names to recommend?
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[QUOTE=Grmojo;1724016]I think a lot of mongers pay for uncertainty, and the excitement that it brings. Will I get a HE? Will I get a BJ or FS? I've had enough disappointment in MPs to last a lifetime, so I'd have to hit the lottery before I'd go to MPs on a regular basis. The disappointment fucked me up for a number of years. I want a sure thing. If I ever went to an MP, I'd want enough cash to get satisfaction, if the MP experience sucked.[/QUOTE]How often has anyone EVER gotten more than a HJ at the local massage spots? In my experience if you are wanting a BJ or FS it won't be happening at Panacea, Wonder, Pacific, EW, Royal, etc. If anyone has regularily gotten more than a HJ I sure would love to know where and with who, because like many I like the convenience and safety a massage place offers. But ain't no BJ's happening and to pay $60 for a half-assed massage and tip $40 because she touched my willie seems a bit ridiculous.
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[QUOTE=Blackfire;1728892]How often has anyone EVER gotten more than a HJ at the local massage spots? In my experience if you are wanting a BJ or FS it won't be happening at Panacea, Wonder, Pacific, EW, Royal, etc. If anyone has regularily gotten more than a HJ I sure would love to know where and with who, because like many I like the convenience and safety a massage place offers. But ain't no BJ's happening and to pay $60 for a half-assed massage and tip $40 because she touched my willie seems a bit ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Before 2002, it was easy to get FS on a regular basis at a certain MP, but there are much better options, now. I currently see certain SWs, on a regular basis. It's much more bang for the buck.
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Pacific. Cascade
I visited Pacific in Cascade 2. 3 weeks ago as I had an appointment in that area. Briefly, I saw Lucy. Average but cute Vietnamese (not a Jennifer body but definitely okay) , good massage, was open to touching over and under clothes, she actually pulled her pants down and shirt away later in massage: I enjoyed some light kissing, sucking on breast, FIV; finish was only HE ending, though with all I was permitted to do I kept thinking more might be offered / available. 60 + 40 tip, Lucy never asked about tip; that is what I gave as I was leaving. I will most likely return when I am next in GR.
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[QUOTE=Grmojo;1729000]Before 2002, it was easy to get FS on a regular basis at a certain MP, but there are much better options, now. I currently see certain SWs, on a regular basis. It's much more bang for the buck.[/QUOTE]It is a rarity to receive FS in a MP of GR. It does happen, but not often and not on any regular occurrence. I have had FS at Pacific 1 time with Tammy, but no other reports since. Lin at Pacific (not sure she still there) did DATY. Best bet for FS is Mikki in Charlotte at the Islands. Worth the drive.
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Sidney
Saw Sidney last week at E / W nice girl, however she does not stop TALKING. Massage was decent enough, the flip was fun. I like the girl's attitude but I sometimes like it quiet. So I have been a long time lurker, I have seen a lot of these girls decided to share, after all you guys are worth it. Keep up with the information!
[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-massages-by-sidney-26/11852908[/url]
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Rhonda
A few weeks back I visited Rhonda at Wonder, I LOVE her attitude and enthusiasm. Great massage and she loves the flip. She sounds like she gets excited when you flip. Will definately be back to see Rhonda!
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FS Spa
[QUOTE=Grmojo;1729000]Before 2002, it was easy to get FS on a regular basis at a certain MP, but there are much better options, now. I currently see certain SWs, on a regular basis. It's much more bang for the buck.[/QUOTE]There use to be quite a few that offered up FS way back when. Some of my favs were Tokyo Spa (closed). Kinja (closed). Rainbow (has gone way downhill). Woodland (closed). Paradise (closed). Hawaii (closed). Polynesian (closed). Man those were the days.
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Rhonda
[QUOTE=ZzzDamm;1731268]A few weeks back I visited Rhonda at Wonder, I LOVE her attitude and enthusiasm. Great massage and she loves the flip. She sounds like she gets excited when you flip. Will definately be back to see Rhonda![/QUOTE]I've seen Rhonda several times in the past and completely agree. She is very sweet and makes me feel very comfortable during the entire session. I seen Camille at Wonder too. She's a beautiful young lady and I highly recommend her!