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Usually the middle of the afternoon is a good time. I hate it when the doorbell rings constantly. Makes the girl jumpy.
A good rule of thumb is if they tell you to wait, you're going to get shorted time wise. I usually leave when they tell me that.
Back when HWC was open I always went in at 10. Place was empty.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum] Another good time is around 11:00 on a Sunday when all good people are in church. [/QUOTE]
I agree. I'm not sure how it works in DC but in Tampa the AMPs don't open till midday so the girls get to sleep in. They're more refreshed. At the one place I frequented the girls would go out to eat at a local restaurant on Sunday morning. I was working a scheme to meet them there, treat them to a nice meal and then enjoy dessert back at their place. But for various reasons that plan never panned out.
In any event, I have had some of my best experiences at the AMP Sunday "brunch." I need to get downtown here more often...
You know both the Auto Show and the Boat Show are coming up in a few weekends, I just might have to visit on Sunday AFTER a fluid check en route the convention center.
[QUOTE=Mifwic1234]Greetings Gentlemen,
I'm waiting for a review of Tea Tree Therapy.- if I get there first I'll be sure to let you know.
Mif[/QUOTE][url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=598997&highlight=tea#post598997[/url]
[QUOTE=AKfourtyseven]Usually the middle of the afternoon is a good time. I hate it when the doorbell rings constantly. Makes the girl jumpy.
A good rule of thumb is if they tell you to wait, you're going to get shorted time wise. I usually leave when they tell me that.
Back when HWC was open I always went in at 10. Place was empty.[/QUOTE]Yeah I always try to go late morning too.
Speaking of HWC, are they shut down for good? Has anyone checked it out lately?
With an uncommon nice dream.
4:00 arrived at the AMP. Loomie remembered she'd shorted me on time and things were rushed.
Full time today. Not rushed at all. And today the phone and door were quiet. TS / 7. 5 / Massage / 8. 5 / Massage was deep and relaxed me into a NoVA dream that was interesting and fun and I hope to repeat soon
Enough time today for a second good back and shoulder massage after I awoke. Steaming hot towel on the back to relax those muscles and a nice hug after I dressed (caused her back to "crack" with thanks)
YMMV.- always be nice to the ladies of Northern Virginia!
[QUOTE=Guitarman1]Yeah I always try to go late morning too.
Speaking of HWC, are they shut down for good? Has anyone checked it out lately?[/QUOTE]HWE is still closed for business! The PWC LEO had raided it twice. Not sure if they will open again soon in PWC.
I went to sko and was greeted by sue, late 20s early 30s kinda fluffy but not in a bad way, I am not sure if she is the mamasan or just one of the girls I went in early evening and dropped $$ with the house fee for fs I don't know if I did get ripped or not either way I at least made a good impression for my first visit. Sue was a little weird though she found my junk vary large and thought it would be funny to kick it playfully but I just thought that was kinda out there. the service was a little rushed and she seemed tired and anxious for the day to finish but still nice I am not sure it was worth the $$ is it me or was that high?
After reading about Bay Therapy in Annandale I decided to give it a try since I was in the neighborhood. Greeted by mamasan who I recognized from other establishments that I have been too. Opted for the hour and she sent in a girl named Yung. Not much in the face, maybe a 6, but had a smokin body. Probably natural 36D. TS was relaxing with proper attention paid to all areas. Back in the room she asked what type of massage I wanted and I opted for a light touch this time. After about 10 minutes she asked me to flip and asked what I wanted right away. She started to stroke my member but I told her I wanted the full hour. I asked what was on the menu and she said "we don't do sex here". Asked for a BJ and she quoted a price of $100 and $60 for a HJ. Opted for HJ and told her I would only pay $40. She finally agreed and it wasn't even worth $40.
Probably won't return. Too bad, she has a great body.
[QUOTE=Jlg0018]... I am not sure it was worth the $$ is it me or was that high?[/QUOTE]Sorry Dude, but you were Ripped! House + Everything is $.6, and if you pay more, you just screw it for the rest of us!
For a REALLY super time, I may tip an extra Jackson, but that's truly the exception.
Generally, the places in Virginia are only good for the rub and tug and will usually run about $80 for the session and another $20-40 for the pull.
Don't expect anything more interesting from any place in Virginia north of Woodbridge. You can get some truly great massages but for a full menu you need to go to DC or Woodbridge usually.
JJ
[QUOTE=Ortho313]After reading about Bay Therapy in Annandale I decided to give it a try since I was in the neighborhood. Greeted by mamasan who I recognized from other establishments that I have been too. Opted for the hour and she sent in a girl named Yung. Not much in the face, maybe a 6, but had a smokin body. Probably natural 36D. TS was relaxing with proper attention paid to all areas. Back in the room she asked what type of massage I wanted and I opted for a light touch this time. After about 10 minutes she asked me to flip and asked what I wanted right away. She started to stroke my member but I told her I wanted the full hour. I asked what was on the menu and she said "we don't do sex here". Asked for a BJ and she quoted a price of $100 and $60 for a HJ. Opted for HJ and told her I would only pay $40. She finally agreed and it wasn't even worth $40.
Probably won't return. Too bad, she has a great body.[/QUOTE]
Are there any LMP or RMP in this area besides the AMP? some variety would be appreciated. I know there is variety on CL but I prefer MP's.
[QUOTE=Funkey]I also noted the new 'Lily's' was open for business Wednesday night and drove in with the intention of trying out the new digs.
Parked in the lot for a few minutes to check things out before I went in and noticed another vehicle arrive and a customer enter. In about 30 seconds the same guy came out and I thought to myself - self - maybe its time to pass because either they were shorthanded and sent him away or some other sinister situation existed given their recent history.
I can't imagine this place ever getting really good again after the Champion bust and then again about a year later. I think Lily's has to be on the PWP hit list.[/QUOTE]So far this week, the lights have been off at Lily's all week as I've drove by. So something must have happened. So good move not risking it. Like to the old saying, it's better to running to live and mong another day.
I, for one, am staying far away from everything in that county!
JJ
[QUOTE=Silver Tongue]So far this week, the lights have been off at Lily's all week as I've drove by. So something must have happened. So good move not risking it. Like to the old saying, it's better to running to live and mong another day.[/QUOTE]
It was reported in the Wash Post earlier this week that Melvin Bray got probation. He plead no contest. The ajima also got probation. I don't think the popo can do much unless they catch you pounding away with the dead presidents on the table next to you.
I wonder what it would cost in lawyers fees?
Anyone ever seen Shannon off CL for a massage?
I saw her a while back. 1hr for 1
Pretty body and tan skin, said she goes tanning. Face not the prettiest but she had a good attitude and did the job. Standard massage and ending.
Never saw her again. Like alot. They are in and out. And just doesnt make me happy enuff.
Hit MT today and saw Amy, who has been on vacation for about a year This was my first time with her since she has been back (since about mid dec). She is my favorite there. There was a new younger girl (honey) that amy said is just starting working in the business. Amy seemed very happy to see me, good TS, lots of playing, BBBJ, DATY, and nice long session. Althoug she is a little older, I get alot of milage and she has a good tude. Later, BT
[QUOTE=AKfourtyseven]I wonder what it would cost in lawyers fees?[/QUOTE]
$250 an hour minimum.
All of you married guys - raise your hands...okay, I see that is most of you fellas.
All of you married guys who would enjoy having your name and address in the paper accusing you of "frequenting a bawdy place" please raise you hand...there you have it! How long would your marriage survive after you wife saw the paper? How long would you still have your home or children even?
Now of ALL of you who may have a job requiring a security clearance, raise you hand...okay - a few of you are there.
Now, how many of YOU would like to see you name and address in the paper accusing you of "frequenting a bawdy place" please raise you hand...there you have it! How long would you retain your clerance and your job??
So, you see, conviction or even lawyers fees are trivial! Many of our lives would be destroyed simply by the accusation!
Think about it!
Not for me!
JJ
[QUOTE=AKfourtyseven]It was reported in the Wash Post earlier this week that Melvin Bray got probation. He plead no contest. The ajima also got probation. I don't think the popo can do much unless they catch you pounding away with the dead presidents on the table next to you.
I wonder what it would cost in lawyers fees?[/QUOTE]
Sorry,I can't raise my hands to any of Sleazebums questions. 8-)
Don't really want an arrest tho.Popo can see all arrests when they run your tags if everything is up and working right.If there is something there they will pull you over just to see if they can find something to bust you for.On the theory that if you have been involved with something in the past you might be involved with something now.
Went to Soo Goung the other day which was a great AMP in dumfries off of route1. Unfortunately new management and no FS :(... Was given a table shower by older women in jean shorts and T-shirt. House collected .7 for decent massage and was given HJ finish. Tipped .20 but will not repeat. Guess I need to make the trek over to DC soon to get my fill.
But have to pull the pants up before the hands are up.
2Nd time visiting this establisment.
1st time was with young lady w large tattoo on shoulder. Unsure of name 1st visit. Paid for 1/2 hour. Gentle massage but she let my hands roam down below. I flipped, she removed all. She began HJ and kiss my nip and I was done! Very good looking
2nd visit. Paid for one hour (80).
TS with (Bea) fantastic after giving her permission to remove the washcloth Sauna. 5 minutes alone. Don't care for that
Nice massage. She let my hands roam
She ended up undressing and DATY and she got the towel
Then to my surprise she asked "want to again"
More DATY and 2nd HJ.
Went for a full hour treatment the other day and was taken cared of by bee. As expected, no FS but had my fair share of DATY.
While I usually got away with a $.4-.5 tip, she was asking for four jacksons. I settled for 3.
Watch out where your YMMV may lead you :)
Went to Best for a typical TS+Massage -- saw Hannah who is probably late-30s to early 40s, about a 7 over all in looks
I am sure some are thinking I am a shill for this place, but I have just had very good AMP experiences there (albeit of the non-FS variety).
TS was great with a lot of play and major ass scrubbing (I mean <i><b>major</i></b> which made me wonder what was in store)
The massage was very good. Ending after 35-40 minutes with some Asian/analingus which was quite unexpected (she also had very hot breath so it was pretty nice -- a lot better than a finger up my ass.)
Shortly after I flipped and she started up with some sensual, slow rubbing of my chest, then very sensual sucking of my nipples with licking and hot breathing on them between sucks, then moved down my body with her tongue, until she reached my balls which she gave the same treatment as my nipples.
She did a bit of the same hot breath treatment on my cock, but between her lack of English and the fact that all I had was $30, we finished on an HR. But I have never known BJ or FS to be available there, and I fully expect that she would have gone for that if I had pushed her (and had more $$$)
Just wanted to thank everyone for the great information listed. I will give up as much information as I can with any experiences and inside hints for people looking to avoid LE. Yes, I was once one and it was the worst 10 years I ever spent. I wont go into detail about who I worked for so don't bother asking. I'm here to share and get help in finding good experiences and nothing more.
Again, thanks for posting and helping us newbies out.
In regards to a post in Nov about a ford explorer/expedition outside Sakura with a Hispanic/black male inside it, the guy was security. The shopping center hired him to help with keeping unwanted hoodlums away. There had been an increase with drug activity and gang incidents recently which sparked it.
[QUOTE=Razor11]Just wanted to thank everyone for the great information listed. I will give up as much information as I can with any experiences and inside hints for people looking to avoid LE. Yes, I was once one and it was the worst 10 years I ever spent. I wont go into detail about who I worked for so don't bother asking. I'm here to share and get help in finding good experiences and nothing more.
Again, thanks for posting and helping us newbies out.[/QUOTE]Gee, is it me or is this going to majorly cut down the number of posts. Sheesh
If you think that no LE ever looks at this site you are crazy. I personally never came across this site until recently and have enjoyed it. At least I am upfront about my prior profession.
Sorry could not stop, however LILLY had their OPEN light on today.
Pwcpd is watching that place like a hawk. They are taking down all license plates that stop by and rumor has it that they may have someone inside working as an informant. From what I know they are wanting to get the mongers to showcase a no tolerance policy. It's a shame that LE has nothing better to do like gang violence enforcement or drug activity. Just a heads up.
Went by Sakura today and got no answer at the door.
Back in Dec I went to a new place out near dulles. The provider brings me into a room takes house then departs. I get into more appropriate wear then she comes back in all upset. Seems the other provider fell down some stairs and they had to call the ambulance. Gave me my money back and asked if I could come back. Trust me, didn't want to be there when this was going down.
Came back a few hours later and she acted like nothing was wrong. No offense, not into DATY but she asked if I wanted to kiss there which got a chuckle out of me. Also stated I could get FS, but didn't have the fee. Finished with more than a HJ.
My question, if anyone is familiar do you know if the other girl was ok?
Seeing all the write ups of Best and K Pressure, I decided to check them out.
First I went to Best. Saw two good looking girls, probably the right side of 40. Of course, I've been going to Pinetree in Winchester so any grandma who doesn't need a walker looks good.
Anyway, one of the two, Sarah, took me to the back. She had a nice rack, nice ass, a bit of a dunlap, thick (not fat) arms and small hands and was very friendly. I asked her for a soft massage, so I got a good 10-15 min of ass tickling then on to the tug. As she tugged I felt out her breasts and I shot in record time.
I didn't ask for any extras, removal of clothes, etc.
Damage: .6 & .4, respectively.
A few hours later I decided to try K Pressure. A criminally over weight, over age, and over attitudinal monster opened the door. I asked who was there and she it was just her, so I left.
Well, I was all primed, so I went back to Best, where Sarah greeted me again. She thought it was very funny that I should come back. We went through almost the same routine, very nice, just what the doctor ordered.
She said her shoulder hurt so I rubbed it, then she hopped on the table and asked for a massage. That was ok for a while, but she was really enjoying it and didnt' appear to care about the time so I finally had to tell her that I had to run.
I am dreading my next trip to Pinetree :-<
Went to MT this afternoon with thanks to a fellow monger on here that helped with info. This is my very first AMP experience and I was nervous as hell and somewhat shy. My look made them a little hesitant and mamasan asked if I had been there before which I gave a standard "yes, months ago". Obviously she bought it.
TS was very quick and was done by mamasan. She was actually not that bad looking. Probably about 40yro and had a nice rack but smelled like smoke. Her hands were direct and to the point. Lasted less than 10 minutes maybe around 5.
Went into room, a little cold atmosphere but overall clean. Girl by the name of Young was my entertainer. She said she was Korean and has only been in the area for about two weeks. She came from NY. (Guess that is the standard line). About 5'4, 130lbs, long black hair with blonde highlights in front, little pudgy tummy. Gave a decent back massage which lasted about 10 minutes (didn't have watch on). Massage actually felt good and wished it would have lasted a little longer. Anyways, on the flip she asked what I wanted and I said just a BJ, she slipped on the coat with her mouth which impressed me. Let me rub her tits which were about a C cup with nice long nipples. Didn't get totally naked but I didn't ask. I didn't last long but she was flirty and asked if I wanted to go again and I declined. As my first experience I just wanted to get the hell out of there. Gave her. 4 and she didn't complain. Not sure if that was standard for what I asked for. Paid. 6 for 45 minutes.
Overall experience was nice but it did seem a little rushed but I didn't mind. Probably spent 30 minutes in and out. I'll go again soon and more than likely will have enough nerve to get more for the buck.
Side note, they didn't answer their phone when I called to see if they were open before arriving. Decided to just stop by and check for myself. Not sure if they avoid calls.
Anyone ever hear of that place? It's either at the old location of HWC or is in the same development. I just dont remember the address for HWC.
Ask your LE friends. I am quite sure that they know the address. If you do not want to ask them, then just go in to hq and use the LE database. No offense Razor 11, but the story about MT was just too generic. Besides, I went to MT this morning to see that specific girl. I was told that there was NOT a girl there that had highlights or fit that description! Nice try. You are either LE or ULE. IF you were not an officer, (retired or otherwise), you would have specifically explained the techniques used to trap mongers. You would have told us what to say and what not to say. What to do, or not what do when caught in an amp or with a SW in the car. You have the inside track to the inner workings of the NOVA police department , but have not divulged them. If I was in your shoes, I would have stated all of that information immediately to build credibility. You have not, so I have to wonder why. If you are a true monger, then you need to come clean with all information that mongers can use to protect themselves. If you cannot, then we all know that you are a liar. Also, the mongers here do not want to hear that you can not talk about this or that because it will compromise investigations. You came to our forum. We did not come to you. Either be truthful and useful or leave.
Propilot- over and out.
[QUOTE=Razor11]Anyone ever hear of that place? It's either at the old location of HWC or is in the same development. I just dont remember the address for HWC.[/QUOTE]You were given the location of MT because it is already on CL anyway. They don't keep their address/location secret so giving you that was no big deal.
The MT review was pretty generic at best and Propilot indicates it was a bogus review. I don't think anyone is going to help you much after that.
[QUOTE=Propilot]Ask your LE friends. I am quite sure that they know the address. If you do not want to ask them, then just go in to hq and use the LE database. No offense Razor 11, but the story about MT was just too generic. Besides, I went to MT this morning to see that specific girl. I was told that there was NOT a girl there that had highlights or fit that description! Nice try. You are either LE or ULE. IF you were not an officer, (retired or otherwise), you would have specifically explained the techniques used to trap mongers. You would have told us what to say and what not to say. What to do, or not what do when caught in an amp or with a SW in the car. You have the inside track to the inner workings of the NOVA police department , but
have not divulged them. If I was in your shoes, I would have stated all of that information immediately to build credibility. You have not, so I have to wonder why. If you are a true monger, then you need to come clean with all information that mongers can use to protect themselves. If you cannot, then we all know that you are a liar. Also, the mongers here do not want to hear that you can not talk about this or that because it will compromise investigations. You came to our forum. We did not come to you. Either be truthful and useful or leave.
Propilot- over and out.[/QUOTE]Don't know who you spoke with or saw at MT but the girl I saw was named Young and her description was as accurate as could be described. Want some useful info on how to keep your ass out of jail or off the front page of the Potomac News, well this is just for you ProPilot.
1: When being stopped after leaving an AMP don't give up any information that is not asked. Don't be an asshole and assume you know the reason for the stop and don't start insisting on asking the reason for the stop. You'll be told when the officer is ready. Cops don't like a smartass. (just like on here)
2: Do have a story planned out as an unplanned lie will only dig you deeper and any LEO working the spot will have heard every line you already used. So stick to something simple. Ie. I went in for a massage, lasted so many minutes and that was it. Don't be an idiot and say you didn't come from there cause chances are if they are watching for mongers they already know where you came from.
3: If you are inside and hear the door buzzer you better have your dick nowhere near the girl an no condoms present because chances are, LE will send in an ULE to get inside before they raid it. Does that make people more paranoid? I would hope so because getting caught in the act is worse than being associated with the place. Especially when it comes to court appearance and names in the paper.
4: In regards to SW, I never came across a monger and his SW friend that I could ever prove in court and thus never charged anyone. If you are dumb enough to pick up a ULE then you better have a good lawyer no matter if she initiates it or not. Words don't mean shit in court when an officer that has been on the job for years testifies against some monger that is obviously posted as guilty before he gets to court! A good lawyer will poke holes in testimony but it won't always work and can cost you near 1K.
5: If caught with a SW make sure that you say absolutely nothing about what was offered in the car. Just say you don't know the person but that you noticed then walking and offered them a ride to be nice. Chances are the SW will be a completely retard and say she knows you from somewhere and thus fuck up your story so that will be on her but the LEO will more than likely already know the girl is a SW. If you get caught in the act then you are screwed. Trying to come up with a realistic story as how you two are friends won't pan out. So go somewhere where you can watch you drives up on you from all angles and have an eye roaming no matter how good the trick is.
6: Not sure what more info I can offer at the moment except don't be such an ass on here to people you don't know. Again, I could have very easily talked shit on here and said nothing about my prior career but I made a point to be upfront. I don't need anyone on here to know who I am personally because I have a life to live without having it posted in the papers like the former mayor of Dumfries. He was a great guy and his reputation was destroyed because of carelessness. If you are concerned about who I worked for it was PWC. I still have a lot of friends still on the job and don't really wanna run into them on here or at an AMP. I don't really want to hire any defense lawyers and stand before the judges that I grew to have a professional relationship with. If you don't want to listen to what I say then don't pay any attention to what I write.
Hello guys,
Went to Angel Therapeutic on Sunday and it was the worst AMP experience I have ever had. The girl was ok looking but a real *****. She had short hair like a guy and extremely skinny. I don't remmember her name. She took me into the shower but said I had to shower myself. "we don't shower the men anymore" back in the room there was a little dog running around that was really getting on my nerves. I ask her to get it out of the room. In my mind I was thinking. Before I kick it out in the street. She started the massage using oil. Which I hate. I asked her to stop but she continued and I said thats it. Given her overall rotten attitude I'm gonna leave. I said give me my money back and then the mamasun comes in the room and says. No you stay. I said FU I'm outta here and give me my money back which she did. Overall the worst AMP experience I have ever had.
Razor 11, you sent me a pm about my questions to you in my report. I would rather have you show/share your whole pm to the forum. I believe they have a right to know everything. Once again this is an opportunity to come clean about your true intentions and affiliations with LE. If you do not show the WHOLE PM, then I will. I have nothing to hide. I have nothing to prove. You on the other hand, have a major credibility problem.
Propilot-over and out.
BTW, judging from the amount of pm's from other members, they do not trust you either.
[QUOTE=Razor11]3: If you are inside and hear the door buzzer you better have your dick nowhere near the girl an no condoms present because chances are, LE will send in an ULE to get inside before they raid it. Does that make people more paranoid? I would hope so because getting caught in the act is worse than being associated with the place. Especially when it comes to court appearance and names in the paper.[/QUOTE]
Do they send in the ULE and two minutes later the guys in uniform break down the door?
Or does the ULE have to get through table shower, half ass massage, and ass tickle (at least 10-15 minutes) before being propsitioned and THEN calling in reinforcements before the extremely dangerous masseuese makes him do something immoral?
Maybe one should hurry up and finish the already paid for session when the buzzer goes off :)
If there is going to be a bust, would one be likely to see some type of vehicles (van?) loitering in the parking lot with engines running, etc?