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[QUOTE=BigthDikth;5624867]If people say no to the 300 an hour then it would take a day for the price to drop to 200.
For me, 300 is half the round trip ticket to Manila.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MeCook;5418121]Okay. I am officially boycotting them. They are all yours. Have fun with your threesome.[/QUOTE]I guess you can join me in boycotting them. I wouldn't mind paying $300 for great service but that is not my experience with the Sunflower girls.
I started officially boycotting them in June but they don't miss me and I surely don't miss their poor service. Some guys have said they got good service from some of the girls but I don't want to deal with the lame ones anymore.
I now only go where I know the girls are still looking good in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and they deliver service at the high end of the scale.
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Boycott
[QUOTE=MeCook;5624997]I guess you can join me in boycotting them. I wouldn't mind paying $300 for great service but that is not my experience with the Sunflower girls.
I started officially boycotting them in June but they don't miss me and I surely don't miss their poor service. Some guys have said they got good service from some of the girls but I don't want to deal with the lame ones anymore.
I now only go where I know the girls are still looking good in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and they deliver service at the high end of the scale.[/QUOTE]You have to try Momo. Great service even at $$. I can afford $$$ every day. The thrill with her is so great for me that I'll be going twice a day soon.
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$200 rate
I've been paying $200 since mid 90's. If you escalate $200 from 1996 to today's dollars, it would be $349.66 according to a quick Google search. I'm surprised that rate has remained all these years. It goes to show how strong our purchasing power is. To be honest, once the norm goes over $200, it'll go up to $300 as the next threshold and will probably stay there until at least I retire from this hobby. I don't go as often as I used to and I'm in a bet financial situation now so it won't stop me from continuing. Just wish the quality was better. The 90's into early 2000's were the best times in terms of quality. Now service is just shit and the ladies are fucken ugly. Want my Koreans back. It's especially depressing when I can't travel to Osaka for the action or there.
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Unacceptable!
[QUOTE=BenchWarmer;5625134]I've been paying $200 since mid 90's. If you escalate $200 from 1996 to today's dollars, it would be $349.66 according to a quick Google search. I'm surprised that rate has remained all these years. It goes to show how strong our purchasing power is. To be honest, once the norm goes over $200, it'll go up to $300 as the next threshold and will probably stay there until at least I retire from this hobby. I don't go as often as I used to and I'm in a bet financial situation now so it won't stop me from continuing. Just wish the quality was better. The 90's into early 2000's were the best times in terms of quality. Now service is just shit and the ladies are fucken ugly. Want my Koreans back. It's especially depressing when I can't travel to Osaka for the action or there.[/QUOTE]It is our duty as mongers to keep the rate at $200 no matter what! Only tip extra after that if service was good, extra tip is not the standard!
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Girls
Before covid and the police raids there were lots of women with nice bodies and nice attitudes for 200. I'm sure there still are lots out there but not as many and people aren't sharing on this board.
Most of us don't want to waste our time seeing beautiful pictures, knocking on the door and seeing an overweight Chinese woman.
But the nice girls for 200 are still out there.
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Yes
[QUOTE=BigthDikth;5625239]Before covid and the police raids there were lots of women with nice bodies and nice attitudes for 200. I'm sure there still are lots out there but not as many and people aren't sharing on this board.
Most of us don't want to waste our time seeing beautiful pictures, knocking on the door and seeing an overweight Chinese woman.
But the nice girls for 200 are still out there.[/QUOTE]Now the best way is he by himself tour and find his own diamond in mud. That can be diamond to him but may be sharp stone giving scar to others.
Though not as glamorous as Honolulu's hay day a few years back then, still relatively young and hot body with good service here.
But my favs get most of session from personal contact or when AMPs don't recognize him or put him in difficult ones, they will hesitate accepting new ones.
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Ladies
[QUOTE=BenchWarmer;5625134]I've been paying $200 since mid 90's. If you escalate $200 from 1996 to today's dollars, it would be $349.66 according to a quick Google search. I'm surprised that rate has remained all these years. It goes to show how strong our purchasing power is. To be honest, once the norm goes over $200, it'll go up to $300 as the next threshold and will probably stay there until at least I retire from this hobby. I don't go as often as I used to and I'm in a bet financial situation now so it won't stop me from continuing. Just wish the quality was better. The 90's into early 2000's were the best times in terms of quality. Now service is just shit and the ladies are fucken ugly. Want my Koreans back. It's especially depressing when I can't travel to Osaka for the action or there.[/QUOTE]You're right about the fkn ugly ladies. It's worst when the reviews build them up and you see the lady in person and she's fugly.
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Rates
[QUOTE=BenchWarmer;5625134]I've been paying $200 since mid 90's. If you escalate $200 from 1996 to today's dollars, it would be $349.66 according to a quick Google search. I'm surprised that rate has remained all these years. It goes to show how strong our purchasing power is. To be honest, once the norm goes over $200, it'll go up to $300 as the next threshold and will probably stay there until at least I retire from this hobby. I don't go as often as I used to and I'm in a bet financial situation now so it won't stop me from continuing. Just wish the quality was better. The 90's into early 2000's were the best times in terms of quality. Now service is just shit and the ladies are fucken ugly. Want my Koreans back. It's especially depressing when I can't travel to Osaka for the action or there.[/QUOTE]I don't go as much as I used to since what I read here now the service and looks are not worth much more than $200. Thanks everyone for that, saved a lot of money. BUT I would gladly pay a higher amount to get my ATFs to come back.
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Two bills since 95??
[QUOTE=BenchWarmer;5625134]I've been paying $200 since mid 90's. If you escalate $200 from 1996 to today's dollars, it would be $349.66 according to a quick Google search. I'm surprised that rate has remained all these years. It goes to show how strong our purchasing power is. To be honest, once the norm goes over $200, it'll go up to $300 as the next threshold and will probably stay there until at least I retire from this hobby. I don't go as often as I used to and I'm in a bet financial situation now so it won't stop me from continuing. Just wish the quality was better. The 90's into early 2000's were the best times in terms of quality. Now service is just shit and the ladies are fucken ugly. Want my Koreans back. It's especially depressing when I can't travel to Osaka for the action or there.[/QUOTE]I've only been in Hawaii for a handful of years after relocating here from L. A. , and I've been mongering worldwide since approximately 1996, with my first brothel experiences occurring during military service in the European theater. My first time was actually in Amsterdam. Anyway, I'm just curious if you were overpaying the 200 back then or if the Hawaii standard of 2 bills has always been just that? It seems a bit inflated for the mid 90's but maybe I'm just misremembering. Thanks.
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Over paying back then
Most of the guys that visit these women here in Hawaii visit this site. That's why it's so critical for them when they get bad reviews. Really, it wouldn't take long of not visiting $300 an hour places for them to drop their prices to 200.
There are women that are beautiful nice bodies that charge 200 an hour, you just have to find them.
Instead of paying 300 an hour for full service I'll pay 120 for an hour long hand job. There are many women easy to find that will do that
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[QUOTE=Museki;5625831]I don't go as much as I used to since what I read here now the service and looks are not worth much more than $200. Thanks everyone for that, saved a lot of money. BUT I would gladly pay a higher amount to get my ATFs to come back.[/QUOTE]Now I don't go looking for something new like I used to. Now I just stay with the ones that I know that deliver top quality service and I just forget about the rest of them. If Empire was still open I would be happy to give those girls $300. Sunflower is not at that level so no need for me to go back there.
Most Korean bar girls can deliver good service outside of the bedroom but many of them perform very poorly in bed. So for me, the Korean AMP women are now the best. I tip my favorites above what they are expecting to show my deep appreciation for their time with me. If ever Ivy reopens her shop then things would be awesome.
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[QUOTE=MegaRat;5625175]It is our duty as mongers to keep the rate at $200 no matter what! Only tip extra after that if service was good, extra tip is not the standard![/QUOTE]Daisansei!
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Overpaying now
[QUOTE=BigthDikth;5625906]Most of the guys that visit these women here in Hawaii visit this site. That's why it's so critical for them when they get bad reviews. Really, it wouldn't take long of not visiting $300 an hour places for them to drop their prices to 200.
There are women that are beautiful nice bodies that charge 200 an hour, you just have to find them.
Instead of paying 300 an hour for full service I'll pay 120 for an hour long hand job. There are many women easy to find that will do that[/QUOTE]Even $200 is often too generous. Many if not most of the Chinese condo obasans are open to negotiation. I don't think they get that much business so if they have a live customer in their room they'll do anything to prevent him from leaving. I'm really amazed that punters are reporting that they pay the full price.
Once I found myself at the notorious unit on the second floor of CC near the stairwell. Instead of rejecting the girl to her face, I offered 150. Then she could refuse me. But instead she called her handler, discussed my offer, and handed the phone to me, telling me to repeat my offer to the handler, who agreed. Think the handler wanted to confirm that there was a real customer making the offer, instead of the girl cheating the bosses and pocketing the extra 50.
It's been reported that even Misa will agree to deep discounts.
Once I hit several units at CC, declining all of them. The word must have gotten around. At the next place, the girl immediately offered 160, but no massage. I was so surprised that I forgot to barter her down to 150.
There's even a highly rated provider in the Punahou area who cost me under the market price.
As for clothed HJs, 60 is pure robbery. There isn't any difference massaging Jr than anywhere else. It doesn't even require deep pressure. In the Philippines it was included at the end for free.
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[QUOTE=MeCook;5626010]Now I don't go looking for something new like I used to. Now I just stay with the ones that I know that deliver top quality service and I just forget about the rest of them. If Empire was still open I would be happy to give those girls $300. Sunflower is not at that level so no need for me to go back there.
Most Korean bar girls can deliver good service outside of the bedroom but many of them perform very poorly in bed. So for me, the Korean AMP women are now the best. I tip my favorites above what they are expecting to show my deep appreciation for their time with me. If ever Ivy reopens her shop then things would be awesome.[/QUOTE]Yuri and Sunflower at 300 are nowhere as good as what Ivy and Empire was at 200. I also don't plan on going back to Sunflower since I refuse to be ripped off.
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Korean Recommendations
[QUOTE=MeCook;5626010]Now I don't go looking for something new like I used to. Now I just stay with the ones that I know that deliver top quality service and I just forget about the rest of them. If Empire was still open I would be happy to give those girls $300. Sunflower is not at that level so no need for me to go back there.
Most Korean bar girls can deliver good service outside of the bedroom but many of them perform very poorly in bed. So for me, the Korean AMP women are now the best. I tip my favorites above what they are expecting to show my deep appreciation for their time with me. If ever Ivy reopens her shop then things would be awesome.[/QUOTE]What providers would you recommend that are Korean Indie, AMP, or specialized in HE?