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[QUOTE=Semianon;5793418]Do not be intimidated. 4 hand is a very common request (even at legit massage places) and will almost always be accommodated if they have 2 ladies available.
As to how it is on the flip, I am afraid that will vary dramatically based on the ladies involved and their perception of you. YMMV applies here even more than it does when dealing with 1 lady.[/QUOTE]Where in town does the best 4 hand service?
[QUOTE=Inno1996;5793427]I Plan on taking a Visit to a AAMP this weekend I Plan on getting a FS Am not really interested in getting a Massage.
Can you guys tell me any AMP that offer FS and BB Service.[/QUOTE]Please feel free to read back through the thread. The is information in abundance regarding you inquiry.
I only saw Nancy's face through speakeasy window. Her English sounded good. Slightly pudgy face which could mean pudgy and large tities. (my imagination). I want to try her. Can anyone report on her service quality and extent of her menu? Also her gratuity expectations? GPS? Down to earth? Thanks.
Had the chance to cruise around and check out the talent.
King. Heavy set woman, massage was ok but too short before the flip, flip was less than ok, over the clothes roaming, would not return.
Golden. I'm not sure if a cripple but definitely weird anatomical structure, short and thin if that's your thing, I passed.
Yanan. I guess the possible trans is gone because there was a shorter and heavier woman that didn't look that good.
Oriental. This place is legit, although I heard a monger trying to push the woman in the other stall, I didn't try my luck but massage was good.
Rain. Don't know why I stopped here but I guess everyone was busy thankfully because I didn't like what I saw.
Lucky on broadway. These girls looked average, one older and one younger but looking like in her 30's, anyways both seemed like they had attitudes before I even said anything. Shorted on time and woman complained the entire time on the flip because it was taking too long after barely starting. They are too in a rush to cycle in and out.
A on 22nd. No, just no. I don't think I'd be able to get it up.
Z. same woman of many years, looks are only getting worse but she wasn't good looking to begin with. I passed.
[QUOTE=DkPersonal;5794179]Had the chance to cruise around and check out the talent.
King. Heavy set woman, massage was ok but too short before the flip, flip was less than ok, over the clothes roaming, would not return.
Golden. I'm not sure if a cripple but definitely weird anatomical structure, short and thin if that's your thing, I passed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I was sad to see that Golden failed expectations, as I had three great times there.
[QUOTE=Semianon;5793418]Do not be intimidated. 4 hand is a very common request (even at legit massage places) and will almost always be accommodated if they have 2 ladies available.
As to how it is on the flip, I am afraid that will vary dramatically based on the ladies involved and their perception of you. YMMV applies here even more than it does when dealing with 1 lady.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I figured YMMV. But I guess I'm interested in do you just ask for both girls on the flip? I figured I can get 4 hand massage but just not sure about getting the extra with 4 hands too?
[QUOTE=Chdaro05;5794249]Thanks. I figured YMMV. But I guess I'm interested in do you just ask for both girls on the flip? I figured I can get 4 hand massage but just not sure about getting the extra with 4 hands too?[/QUOTE]Ask for 4 Hands right at start and negotiate your gratuity also but don't hand it over; just give them the house fee. I suggest you go for 60 minutes not the half hour. The girls are somewhat sly; as one will try to finish you with a quick hand job while the other just gives you a dusting touch. Then they both just coast time the finish line. They will do this in 60 or in 30 minute session, but in 30 minutes it's over right quick. Also remember they hardly understand English but they know the basic signals: pussey; BJ; 69, etc. I suggest you fantasize what you want from them and then write it in Google translate in your phone in plain English. I spell out full 60 minutes (no going to door or phone or hot towels); then tell them no hand job (which they will try to deliver anyways). Go slow no rush me to come or I will be pissed and cut your tip (remember not to tip in advance or you will guarantee shorted services.) I show them the translation in my phone and get their buy in. I have never found that they will toy with each other's bodies; no bisexuals. Enjoy your adventure and give us a report.
Paid a visit to Lubi today. She's delightful as reported. Lovely BBBJ. FS was not available due to that time of month. She said FS would be available Sunday. Since Monday is either her last day, or she returns to Flushings NYC Monday, you guys have a very short window of opportunity.
[QUOTE=DesertSailor;5794541]Ask for 4 Hands right at start and negotiate your gratuity also but don't hand it over; just give them the house fee. I suggest you go for 60 minutes not the half hour. The girls are somewhat sly; as one will try to finish you with a quick hand job while the other just gives you a dusting touch. Then they both just coast time the finish line. They will do this in 60 or in 30 minute session, but in 30 minutes it's over right quick. Also remember they hardly understand English but they know the basic signals: pussey; BJ; 69, etc. I suggest you fantasize what you want from them and then write it in Google translate in your phone in plain English. I spell out full 60 minutes (no going to door or phone or hot towels); then tell them no hand job (which they will try to deliver anyways). Go slow no rush me to come or I will be pissed and cut your tip (remember not to tip in advance or you will guarantee shorted services.) I show them the translation in my phone and get their buy in. I have never found that they will toy with each other's bodies; no bisexuals. Enjoy your adventure and give us a report.[/QUOTE]Thanks! This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for! Just nervous to approach the whole 2 girl thing. So literally, show them the translation on the phone before anything starts?(including massage) One more question, how do you approach the girl / girls about getting the "extras" first and then a relaxing massage after? Flat out ask for it first? Sorry for all d's but it's not like there's a manual on this, LOL.
[QUOTE=DkPersonal;5794179]Had the chance to cruise around and check out the talent.
King. Heavy set woman, massage was ok but too short before the flip, flip was less than ok, over the clothes roaming, would not return.
Golden. I'm not sure if a cripple but definitely weird anatomical structure, short and thin if that's your thing, I passed.
Yanan. I guess the possible trans is gone because there was a shorter and heavier woman that didn't look that good.
Oriental. This place is legit, although I heard a monger trying to push the woman in the other stall, I didn't try my luck but massage was good.
Rain. Don't know why I stopped here but I guess everyone was busy thankfully because I didn't like what I saw.
[/QUOTE]Got another newbie question. Do you just literally walk in and ask to see who's working? If it's not someone you're into, you just leave? I always feel obligated to accept whoever comes to the door.
[QUOTE=Chdaro05;5795521]Got another newbie question. Do you just literally walk in and ask to see who's working? If it's not someone you're into, you just leave? I always feel obligated to accept whoever comes to the door.[/QUOTE]I'm with you. Some of you guys are legends! Walk in and be like Nah you bitches are ugly I'm out!! I need to get on that level!
[QUOTE=Chdaro05;5795515]Thanks! This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for! Just nervous to approach the whole 2 girl thing. So literally, show them the translation on the phone before anything starts?(including massage) One more question, how do you approach the girl / girls about getting the "extras" first and then a relaxing massage after? Flat out ask for it first? Sorry for all d's but it's not like there's a manual on this, LOL.[/QUOTE]I can count on one hand the four-handers I've done in my AMP career. Each time, I asked a provider I had an established relationship with that I wanted to go that way. That way, she knows what I'm expecting and can tell the other girl.
Each time I have done four-handed, it's been disappointing. It's never equal effort. One girl is great while the other is pretty much a spectator, and I have to pay them both. I don't do four handers anymore.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;5795749]I can count on one hand the four-handers I've done in my AMP career. Each time, I asked a provider I had an established relationship with that I wanted to go that way. That way, she knows what I'm expecting and can tell the other girl.
Each time I have done four-handed, it's been disappointing. It's never equal effort. One girl is great while the other is pretty much a spectator, and I have to pay them both. I don't do four handers anymore.[/QUOTE]I agree that one girl is a spectator. But you can enjoy both. I had both girls at Fuzu get on table and I took turns fingering and eating them. Also one give BBBJ or FS while you eat the other. 4 Hands is an ego thing. One on one is more potent and enjoyable. I think if you get 2 bisexuals it can be better. But good luck in finding that. By the way Fuzu girls are old (when both are in town).
Cute little girl from Shanghai. Small Asian girls' tities but real and perky. Had a good massage and then went for the main course. For a Benjamin we had long covered 69. She was oral the whole time; no sneaky hand jive. ! Said she came but I never trust Asian on that score. She like that I was "clean". "You smell good". Do you guys visit with grundgy / stinky crotches?? I would definitely repeat. I find BJ more intense if provider knows her stuff!
[QUOTE=Chdaro05;5795521]Got another newbie question. Do you just literally walk in and ask to see who's working? If it's not someone you're into, you just leave? I always feel obligated to accept whoever comes to the door.[/QUOTE]Usually the one greeting you at the door is the next in queue unless you have mamasan greeting you. In this forum, you can browse through the threads and see descriptions of the girls. You can ask for a girl by name, but the one at the door may claim to be the girl. This happens a lot especially if they are next up in queue or do not fully understand (some just play dumb). Some places in PHX will permit a line up without giving you a lot of flack. The ones in Tucson may get upset especially if you're not a regular.
If you frequent a location and develop a good relationship, most will accommodate good customers. E. g. , asking for the new girl or the one you prefer.
[QUOTE=Chdaro05;5795521]Got another newbie question. Do you just literally walk in and ask to see who's working? If it's not someone you're into, you just leave? I always feel obligated to accept whoever comes to the door.[/QUOTE]I used to always go with whoever showed up. I think after some number of bad experiences, it becomes easier to just leave or ask for another girl if you aren't feeling the vibe.
Had a nice visit with Kim. If you like tiny she is your gal. Big erect nipples, small tight ass. Very cute. Decent massage. Standard AA pricing. (tried to up sell but I stayed on point and she agreed) still best place in town along with Sun.
Would the consensus be that the standard tip would be 1.2 for half hour and perhaps something like 1.6 for the hour? Some of you frequent these establishments often. I'm not wet behind the ears myself but have not recently been to either shop. Would these rates be what to shoot for?
I arrived at AA and was greeted by the new girl. I opted to go for an hour session with Kim instead. Kim is willing to provide a massage after. I had my fun with her and got a great back message. The massage started with medium pressure and later progressed to hard.
To answer the question on tip YMMV for FS: HH expect $ to $. 4 / Hr expect $. 2 to $. 6 (the massage will play into the cost; e. G. No massage v. Hard massage). If you've had sessions with them before, they will remember you if they had fun too and that could lower your tip cost. Just respectfully negotiate so both parties get what they want. Also, good hygiene is a must. AA doesn't have a standing or table shower available. BTW I heard the sister location Sun has a standing shower. I wish that AA would get a shower (standing / table) installed.
[QUOTE=LovinDaV;5797447] To answer the question on tip YMMV for FS: HH expect $ to $. 4 / Hr expect $. 2 to $. 6 (the massage will play into the cost; e. G. No massage v. Hard massage). If you've had sessions with them before, they will remember you if they had fun too and that could lower your tip cost. Just respectfully negotiate so both parties get what they want. [/QUOTE]Thanks for your feedback. I'll bear it in mind on my next visit to AA or Sun. I am a devout regular at another shop, where I receive Cadillac treatment, never a price haggle, and when I see a new girl my sense is that she's already been to told to take good care of me. I never really need a massage, rather I prefer to massage the young, naked body of my masseuse. I'm not trained, but they almost always seem to enjoy relaxing and being pampered, and I enjoy the ritual of massage leading to all sorts of play. Being respectful, joking around, giving pleasure in addition to receiving, all lead to a nice time, and also to being welcomed back with open arms. Most of these girls appreciate a nice guy. My tips are always the same at this shop, in the mid-range and less than what some report paying at other shops for the same service, and are always appreciatively received. Let's call it win-win.
Katie is back from her break. She is at Sun with Amy and Lubi. Lubi leaves Monday and a friend of Lubi's from New York is replacing her.
This was a totally legit massage. It was eerie because I spoke to Nancy and she called the Mamasan to look me over. I got the feeling that they were suspicious of me or on guard. I have had many full service visits to King with numerous other service providers. Even with mamasan who did not recognize me with mask. I would not repeat until something changes. Nancy going back to San Diego next week.
End of the Saturday morning to everyone. I have a question. Does every AMP in Tucson rotate new girls every month?
[QUOTE=Perceptive41;5798597]Does every AMP in Tucson rotate new girls every month?[/QUOTE]A majority of AMPs have some sort of rotation of out-of-town talent while others may have some local talent. You can see ads in several sites such as SumoSearch that show "new girl" or "new girl in town". I think that is the appeal of AMPs is the variety; however, this is somewhat problematic if you have out-of-town favorites since they may be in town for one shot unless the girl and AMP find the arrangement beneficial for a repeat.
[QUOTE=Perceptive41;5798597]End of the Saturday morning to everyone. I have a question. Does every AMP in Tucson rotate new girls every month?[/QUOTE]You can see that AA and Sun gals rotate back and forth but then leave for other cities. Often to stores owned by same mamasan. The old gals at Fuzu seem to stick around. Same at King Spa. . All girls change names every new stop. We all remember Michelle at Sun who became Eva at AA and the Candy at Joy. It is all just "merchandising"; make the product appear as fresh stock. The owner of the "6 Star" stores seemed to moved his girl Kitty to all his stores in Tucson. You can see that using RM as a reference.
[QUOTE=LovinDaV;5798668]A majority of AMPs have some sort of rotation of out-of-town talent while others may have some local talent. You can see ads in several sites such as SumoSearch that show "new girl" or "new girl in town". I think that is the appeal of AMPs is the variety; however, this is somewhat problematic if you have out-of-town favorites since they may be in town for one shot unless the girl and AMP find the arrangement beneficial for a repeat.[/QUOTE]Thank you for dropping some knowledge upon me! As we both know, knowledge is power.
[QUOTE=DesertSailor;5798769]You can see that AA and Sun gals rotate back and forth but then leave for other cities. Often to stores owned by same mamasan. The old gals at Fuzu seem to stick around. Same at King Spa. . All girls change names every new stop. We all remember Michelle at Sun who became Eva at AA and the Candy at Joy. It is all just "merchandising"; make the product appear as fresh stock. The owner of the "6 Star" stores seemed to moved his girl Kitty to all his stores in Tucson. You can see that using RM as a reference.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the intel. Now that you mentioned, the women at Fuzu have been the same older type except when I drew Ana a few Saturdays ago. Yeah, I have seen quite a few posts about women alternating between Sun and AA. Then, I saw a post about Lubi's last day is Monday.
[QUOTE=AZPete;5797677]Katie is back from her break. She is at Sun with Amy and Lubi. Lubi leaves Monday and a friend of Lubi's from New York is replacing her.[/QUOTE]Nice to know Katie is back at Sun. AA was so far from where I live, I never went. I like this one visit when during my massage Katie said" I'm taking off my clothes. " For a gal that only gives covered FS, she is one of the few that can make me complete the mission. Katie possesses that "sweet spot" at the top of her womanhood, which makes all the difference in the world.
[QUOTE=LovinDaV;5797447]I arrived at AA and was greeted by the new girl. I opted to go for an hour session with Kim instead. Kim is willing to provide a massage after. I had my fun with her and got a great back message. The massage started with medium pressure and later progressed to hard.
To answer the question on tip YMMV for FS: HH expect $ to $. 4 / Hr expect $. 2 to $. 6 (the massage will play into the cost; e. G. No massage v. Hard massage). If you've had sessions with them before, they will remember you if they had fun too and that could lower your tip cost. Just respectfully negotiate so both parties get what they want. Also, good hygiene is a must. AA doesn't have a standing or table shower available. BTW I heard the sister location Sun has a standing shower. I wish that AA would get a shower (standing / table) installed.[/QUOTE]AA does have a standing shower all you have to do is ask it's on the left side of hall way.
[QUOTE=WeedHead13;5799341]AA does have a standing shower all you have to do is ask it's on the left side of hall way.[/QUOTE]Have you actually used their shower?
Thanks for the info. I will ask next time.
The place called "Lilly Massage" on Kolb and Speedway still not open but at 702 Craycroft there is a new place on 2nd floor. Big sign says "MASSAGE" but no name. ; just a sandwich board at street side that says "Chinese Massage". It was not functional Saturday but had the tell tale "speakeasy" reception area. I will check out again as girl said they opening Sunday / Monday.
[QUOTE=DesertSailor;5799870]The place called "Lilly Massage" on Kolb and Speedway still not open but at 702 Craycroft there is a new place on 2nd floor. Big sign says "MASSAGE" but no name. ; just a sandwich board at street side that says "Chinese Massage". It was not functional Saturday but had the tell tale "speakeasy" reception area. I will check out again as girl said they opening Sunday / Monday.[/QUOTE]I just got a text from Lavenders old number saying Mindy is at the Craycroft location. I have been texting with them since the fire to see when Mindy would be available again. Unfortunately probably won't be stopping by due to busy schedule so I wanted to share the news with everyone.
Feel free to check the forum but in the past Mindy made an impression with her sexy appearance (near 50 asian MILF with fit curves) and great teases that usually end in high level PM and HJ. Above average massage as well.
Saw it on the drive home yesterday no name just massage in big red letters on the south side of the street behind the gas station. Anybody know about it?
[QUOTE=LovinDaV;5799583]Have you actually used their shower?
Thanks for the info. I will ask next time.[/QUOTE]I have multiple time when I get out of work and don't have a chance to go home I usually take one before my massage.
[QUOTE=GermanChris;5800057]I just got a text from Lavenders old number saying Mindy is at the Craycroft location. I have been texting with them since the fire to see when Mindy would be available again. Unfortunately probably won't be stopping by due to busy schedule so I wanted to share the news with everyone.
Feel free to check the forum but in the past Mindy made an impression with her sexy appearance (near 50 asian MILF with fit curves) and great teases that usually end in high level PM and HJ. Above average massage as well.[/QUOTE]I stopped in just now. Saw Mindy. Grand Opening is tomorrow. Think I understood a "house warming " at 7 tomorrow. Bring your own chopsticks.
On impromptu status, I decided to introduce myself to Sky Spa this afternoon. I was greeted by Yuki. She is young, my guess she is rolling with man made tits, and speaks very understandable English. She takes my. 4 and ask me to wait for 5 minutes. I get to room and she starts a good massage from my perspective. Before I even turned over, she whispered in my ear asking what I want today. After some more massaging, she asked me to turn over. She gave me the home run signal and I said $. 2. She said no and pointed to her mouth. I said no. After some time passed, she said $. 4 for the home run just this time. I said no. Finally, she out of the blue she agreed to $. 2. After I said I wanted bb, she said no and nobody here will do that here. I said ok, no problem. She finished my massage, I said thank you, and I was on my way. On my way, she called out for her cohort and her cohort talked to me for a little bit. Due to the distance from my apartment complex and not offering bb, I will not repeat. I can get a good massage closer to the east side.
[QUOTE=DesertSailor;5800242]I stopped in just now. Saw Mindy. Grand Opening is tomorrow. Think I understood a "house warming " at 7 tomorrow. Bring your own chopsticks.[/QUOTE]I believe that he is a referring to a prostate massage.
[QUOTE=Perceptive41;5800411]I believe that he is a referring to a prostate massage.[/QUOTE]Where is it that you have seen Mindy from lavender spa?
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5800702]Where is it that you have seen Mindy from lavender spa?[/QUOTE]My response was to answer Desert Sailor's question about what does high level PM mean? I haven't seen Mindy before but this isn't the first time that I have heard that she delivers. So, I will eventually if she makes the grade in my book.
[QUOTE=Canopy;5800076]Saw it on the drive home yesterday no name just massage in big red letters on the south side of the street behind the gas station. Anybody know about it?[/QUOTE]I have been there. They are very eager. They have a card onyour 8 massage the massage is free LOL. Girls were not much to look at although one had a nice rack and she was who I choose to be with.