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Strictly legit place with great massage ladies and manager said they would be opening May 1.
[QUOTE=Mike454;4755294]Well all I know is the virus isn't going anywhere, and the only reason we did the shutdown was to prepare the the hospitals for the surge, and to flatten the curve.
Staying inside forevermore until there is a vaccine is not even an option, so I agree with kemp 100%. A little common sense goes a long way.
Nobody knows for sure, but so faR OTHER THAN THE VERY OLD AND VULNERABLE, 99.9 % of the people that get it recover and most are with little or no complications.
Not 1 of the models have been right so far. So we might as well open things back up, before we have more deaths from people losing everything than the stupid sars2 virus causes anyways. remember the Great Depression 32% unemployment...how many people died because of that?
How many die for every 1% increase in unemployment? I think its a quite a few. its just silly to self inflict all this damage.
I don't know. I just trust what I see, more than the experts. All we can do is try to be smart, and everybody go back to work.if it spikes then he can always close back down.
When every liberal loses their mind over a governor looking out for his state by giving people the OPTION to open up and save THEIR business. Then we see what this is really all about. I think.
Sorry I guess this is somewhat relevant to this thread.
M454.[/QUOTE]Common sense is always relevant. Thank you very much.
[QUOTE=Oily123;4755306]Here's a few factual numbers.
As of 4-22-2020.
State of Georgia population: approximately 10.7 million.
Number of dead from Covid 19 statewide in Georgia: 836.[/QUOTE]And Dougherty county, Georgia has more China virus deaths than does Fulton county. Out of that statewide China virus death total, of those under 60 years old, only 6 are listed as healthy w / no serious existing preconditions, 23 listed as unknown exist preconditions and 75 listed as dying of or with China virus due to their serious preexisting, life threatening health problems.
As these APM's open, it's inevitable mongers and therapists will get infected. Some may show symptoms, some may not. I'm going to hang low for awhile to see how this plays out, but for those that go, if you feel you got infected, report it here. Help others avoid getting infected and spreading this even further.
[QUOTE=Mike454;4755308]Yep its going to end up a .1 to .2%.[/QUOTE]I am not as concerned about the death rate as I am about interacting with the healthcare system right now. The last thing I want to do in the next few weeks is spend time in a hospital where the staff is either over worked, under trained for this crisis or both.
[QUOTE=GorosDawg;4755468]I am not as concerned about the death rate as I am about interacting with the healthcare system right now. The last thing I want to do in the next few weeks is spend time in a hospital where the staff is either over worked, under trained for this crisis or both.[/QUOTE]I think the ladies are going to be quite cautious. I could see handies with all parties wearing masks. But I also think that people who are at high risk of a bad COVID outcome, should stay sheltered in place. At some point, we'll probably be able to identify people who are immune and they can start offering more services to the non-immune. (Services like hair cuts, of course).
I think Kemp is brave to try to re-open businesses and while it's not going to be risk free, people at risk know who they are and they need to stay quarantined. Everyone else, go out and start spending money because small businesses will not make it otherwise.
Think it through guys. Say you start back and are lucky for a few weeks or even a few months. Then you catch it. Imagine you're one of the ones on a ventilator for 2 weeks drowning in your own fluid just knowing that you are going to die. You're probably going to live but how horrible is that. Or maybe even worse you give it to your mom or kids and they go through that ordeal. That's going to be hard to live with for the rest of your life. I'm retired till I get the vaccine. BTW, that. 1% is bullshit.
AMP.
[QUOTE=AmpLovr;4755784]Think it through guys. Say you start back and are lucky for a few weeks or even a few months. Then you catch it. Imagine you're one of the ones on a ventilator for 2 weeks drowning in your own fluid just knowing that you are going to die. You're probably going to live but how horrible is that. Or maybe even worse you give it to your mom or kids and they go through that ordeal. That's going to be hard to live with for the rest of your life. I'm retired till I get the vaccine. BTW, that. 1% is bullshit.
AMP.[/QUOTE]The issue is that you're going to get it, regardless. It's not going away, and you can't quarantine for 18 months. Our best hope is to put it off for those at risk as long as possible (flatten the curve), and generate antibody pools from younger healthier people, who will get it, and survive to help those who get really sick. This bug is bad, no doubt, but it disproportionately hits older, sicker people. The rest of the population, not in that group, need to be out there working to improve things.
Whether you get in in an AMP or at Kroger, theres not a lot you can do outside of air seal yourself in place. That's not going to work for most people.
[QUOTE=AmpLovr;4755784]Think it through guys. Say you start back and are lucky for a few weeks or even a few months. Then you catch it. Imagine you're one of the ones on a ventilator for 2 weeks drowning in your own fluid just knowing that you are going to die. You're probably going to live but how horrible is that. Or maybe even worse you give it to your mom or kids and they go through that ordeal. That's going to be hard to live with for the rest of your life. I'm retired till I get the vaccine. BTW, that. 1% is bullshit.
AMP.[/QUOTE]I want to retire too but little one is too fucking active for me to retire. I looked at the GA stats and it seems like most of the fatalities are linked with some underlying problems. There is one death in Cobb county where I monger most of the time, the man was only 29 with no underlying health issues. It is tragic that so many people are dying but if any of us is over 60 or have some health issue then he should retire immediately. On the ohter hand, we can die in car wreck going to Kroger or publix, LOL.
[URL]https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report[/URL]
[QUOTE=AmpLovr;4755784]Think it through guys. Say you start back and are lucky for a few weeks or even a few months. Then you catch it. Imagine you're one of the ones on a ventilator for 2 weeks drowning in your own fluid just knowing that you are going to die. You're probably going to live but how horrible is that. Or maybe even worse you give it to your mom or kids and they go through that ordeal. That's going to be hard to live with for the rest of your life. I'm retired till I get the vaccine. BTW, that. 1% is bullshit.
AMP.[/QUOTE]Your fear is irrational, unfortunately. The scenario you describe is statistically infinitesimal. Real but infinitesimal. Less than 1%. But, they, the politicos with an agenda and the media who aids and abets them, have frightened you and too many others to believe that if you test positive it's a death sentence, which it overwhelmingly is not. But they have scared you and others to death so to you it is a lock that you are going to die if you test positive. If you test positive the chances of you dying the horrible death that you have described is extremely small unless you have an underlying health condition in which case you should not be out and about anyway. Do a Rip VanWinkle for a couple of years or even twenty years if you need to but please do not demand that the rest of us conform to your hysteria. Life is risk. Always has been and always will be. In this case the risk of horrible death, to repeat ad nauseum, is overwhelmingly small if you are an otherwise healthy individual. It is your fear that will kill us, not the virus.
[QUOTE=CobaltSoS;4755356]Wrong!
These prevalence estimates represent a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April, 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases. Conclusions The population prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in Santa Clara County implies that the infection is much more widespread than indicated by the number of confirmed cases. Population prevalence estimates can now be used to calibrate epidemic and mortality projections.
It would put the mortality rate between 0. 01% and 0. 02%.
There's also reports (and autopsies) coming out showing this has been in the US longer than originally thought.[/QUOTE]Here is the real problem with any modeling or statistics, how many people caught it and had little to no symptoms, stayed home and recovered and went about their business never seeing a medical pro so they are not even in the count. The other side of the coin is the CDC counting anyone who died WITH the virus as dying FROM the virus. That is about as stupid as I can think of. You have COVID and get into a car crash with a semi that severs your head from your shoulders but you are in the body county for COVID-19. So both sides here jacks up any method you choose to use to estimate it's lethality.
[QUOTE=WalterM;4755780]I think the ladies are going to be quite cautious. I could see handies with all parties wearing masks. But I also think that people who are at high risk of a bad COVID outcome, should stay sheltered in place. At some point, we'll probably be able to identify people who are immune and they can start offering more services to the non-immune. (Services like hair cuts, of course).
I think Kemp is brave to try to re-open businesses and while it's not going to be risk free, people at risk know who they are and they need to stay quarantined. Everyone else, go out and start spending money because small businesses will not make it otherwise.[/QUOTE]Another common sense approach. We need that. Enough of this hysterical, hair on fire, sky is falling lunacy. Those things are what will kill us all, not the virus. Thank you, WalterM.
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[QUOTE=AmpLovr;4755784]Think it through guys. Say you start back and are lucky for a few weeks or even a few months. Then you catch it. Imagine you're one of the ones on a ventilator for 2 weeks drowning in your own fluid just knowing that you are going to die. You're probably going to live but how horrible is that. Or maybe even worse you give it to your mom or kids and they go through that ordeal. That's going to be hard to live with for the rest of your life. I'm retired till I get the vaccine. BTW, that. 1% is bullshit.
AMP.[/QUOTE]It's like 5 to 6 percent 47000÷840000'100. Is but we are.
High risk.
[QUOTE=CobaltSoS;4755356]These prevalence estimates represent a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April, 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases. Conclusions The population prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in Santa Clara County implies that the infection is much more widespread than indicated by the number of confirmed cases. Population prevalence estimates can now be used to calibrate epidemic and mortality projections.
It would put the mortality rate between 0. 01% and 0. 02%.
[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the Santa Clara study has been widely criticized for having serious methodology flaws. There are obviously many more people who have had Covid-19 than there are people who have tested positive for it and the mortality rate is far lower than that cited by the clown below. There have been approximately 11,000 Covid-19 deaths in New York City. Just think how many infections there would have to be to reach that number with the mortality rate you suggest.
Next time I visit Atlanta I'm going to pretend I'm parking at Adore or Spa 18 or any of the other parlors close to the CDC and roll down my window and see if I can pick up some better info.