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Wondering if someone can tell me AMPs out there similar to the likes of Golden Touch, K Treatment, or Gold Spa, where the girls are usually 8 or better in looks and willing to provide FS. I'm still new to the hobby, but have already visited these AMPs a few times and found them to be pretty satisfactory in the looks dept (thanks to the info attained from this forum). Am I missing out on other places out there like this?
[QUOTE=CryoChilled;1581614]Wondering if someone can tell me AMPs out there similar to the likes of Golden Touch, K Treatment, or Gold Spa, where the girls are usually 8 or better in looks and willing to provide FS. I'm still new to the hobby, but have already visited these AMPs a few times and found them to be pretty satisfactory in the looks dept (thanks to the info attained from this forum). Am I missing out on other places out there like this?[/QUOTE]That's it for Atlanta. Suggest you hit up Los Angeles or go overseas.
[QUOTE=Pwhipped; 1581407]Simple solution also. Tell them to put clean cover down! Whatcha think?
Wet Dreams, PW[/QUOTE]Fresh towels? Ha ha, that should be suggested with an asterisk. I know what you mean and agree with it but often those AMP towels are not as clean-smelling as those one has washed at home. Wish providers would wash their towels at least twice! I guess this is why I never lie my bare nekkid body down on a table in a dimly lit room. Time has taught me to take a good look at that table first.
[QUOTE=NotParticular;1581244]Stopped by Dragonfly in College Park. Clean place inside. Walk upstairs to reception, Chinese guy managing. One hour is $70. Only one working was older lady, Lucy, late 40's maybe 50. I Passed, too many good legit places for $50 hour in town and wasn't willing to invest with Lucy to find out if more is available![/QUOTE]Not that I would ever venture that far south to a parlor, but how did you hear about that place? Never seen it advertised.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1581707]That's it for Atlanta. Suggest you hit up Los Angeles or go overseas.[/QUOTE]Really? Well that's a shame, but guess it's better than nothing.
[QUOTE=Craven Moorhed;1581527]Have to agree with AMP Fme again. Attitudes like demonstrated by Buhi will lead to lesser experiences for us all.[/QUOTE]The AMP situation had greatly deteriorated way before that guy did what he did, however their is no excuse for that type of behavior. The sad part is he posted and thought he had earned credibility. We do not like the situation but most of us just post and not go back to that establishment. What he did was very serious, and crossed the line.
No one wants to be associated with that woman hating, prison like, abusive bullshit. He should ensure that he takes his meds before leaving the house.
I know Gold Spa is open late, but which other ones are open after 11PM?
Stopped by Elite on Friday because I had to meet a client over that way. Other experiences had been good ski was looking forward to it.
When I got there around 5pm they were closed. Anyone know why?
[QUOTE=Buhi Jackn;1581397]*** I think some of you guys *** jump to way too many conclusions. Or you are all lawyers. Last time I checked, when a massage theripist puts their hand on your dick they are breaking the law. ***[/QUOTE]My careful reading of the prostitution statutes in North Carolina and Massachusetts convinced me hand jobs you pay for are legal in those states. In other states that is not true, however, so go on-line and read the prostitution statute for the state where you are, and in those states be especially careful how you phrase your requests. All states now have their statutes (laws) on the Internet.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1581714]Not that I would ever venture that far south to a parlor, but how did you hear about that place? Never seen it advertised.[/QUOTE]Craigslist.
[url]http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/biz/3366037588.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Southbound;1575039]If you think that what happened in Duluth was simply a result of LE doing their job, you are sadly mistaken. The Feds shut down Blue Moon? I am sure Connie being so damn aggressive could not have helped. Again, believe what you like.[/QUOTE]I thought it had more to do with that shoot-out at the AMP on Peachtree Industrial (Tong Tong? Something like that). That didn't have anything to do with the massage business, really, but probably really scared the suburban cops. It's a pretty safe area around there apart from that one weird incident.
That might explain the extra attention in that area, too. I've seen several closed AMP around there.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1581993]My careful reading of the prostitution statutes in North Carolina and Massachusetts convinced me hand jobs you pay for are legal in those states. In other states that is not true, however, so go on-line and read the prostitution statute for the state where you are, and in those states be especially careful how you phrase your requests. All states now have their statutes (laws) on the Internet.[/QUOTE]Sounds interesting. Would you care to post those HJ statutes here? Have a feeling that, in the end, local laws (anywhere) are subject to interpretation on the side of LE, politics and other influential means.
[QUOTE=Nonameyet;1581852]I know Gold Spa is open late, but which other ones are open after 11PM?[/QUOTE]The other ones directly across the street and down the road (4 more) in both directions. Have you done any research on AMPs in that area to find out?
[QUOTE=NotParticular; 1582113]Craigslist.
[url]http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/biz/3366037588.html[/url][/QUOTE]Appreciate the link. It gives guys a place to visit on the southside.
[QUOTE=Jimmia; 1581972]Stopped by Elite on Friday because I had to meet a client over that way. Other experiences had been good ski was looking forward to it.
When I got there around 5pm they were closed. Anyone know why?[/QUOTE]I am guessing that it's a result of their diminished business as of the last several months / year. Ever since Elite got busted awhile back, seems they've been cautious and haven't been able to recruit providers with good LE radar. Mamasans have rotated also. Suspect they have trouble recruiting women who will accept the increased risk there and have either decreased their hours or have shut down. Elite's management hasn't been the best for a long time. That usually spells final closure. Pileo Spa has been under the same pressure for years, but at least they've been smarter in business. Curious how anyone else has fared at either establishment recently.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1582553]Sounds interesting. Would you care to post those HJ statutes here? Have a feeling that, in the end, local laws (anywhere) are subject to interpretation on the side of LE, politics and other influential means.[/QUOTE]Sure, I'm happy to do that.
In North Carolina, prostitution is defined in Sec. 14-203: "Definition of terms. The term 'prostitution' shall be construed to include the offering of receiving of the body for sexual intercourse for hire, and shall also be construed to include the offering of receiving of the body for indiscriminate sexual intercourse without hire."
Additionally, according to an article by a North Carolina lawyer who previously was a superior court judge and was a member of the North Carolina legislature,"North Carolina's current prostitution law specifically applies only to vaginal intercourse." You'll find the article here:
[url]http://www.raywarrenlaw.com/Amendment-QA.pdf[/url]
According to this definition, not just orgasms by hand but oral-genital contact you pay for legal in North Carolina.
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Massachusetts as another example:
[url]http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section53A[/url]
Accessed October 29, 2012:
(Please forgive the (be) and (see) for the letters that sound like those words. This web site's automatic editing changes the second and third letters in the alphabet into the words be and see. I've already asked Jackson or the current site administrator to stop using that automatic editing program in a comment in the appropriate thread or forum.)
[Text of section effective until February 19, 2012. For text effective February 19, 2012, see below. ]
Section 53A. (a) Whoever engages, agrees to engage, or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee, or whoever pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay another person to engage in sexual conduct, or to agree to engage in sexual conduct with another natural person, shall be punished by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than 1 year or by a fine of not more than $500 or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.
(be) Whoever pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay any person with the intent to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 14, or whoever is paid, agrees to pay, or agrees that a third person be paid in return for aiding a person who intends to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 14, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 10 years or in the house of correction for not more than 21/2 years, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.
Chapter 272: Section 53A. Engaging in sexual conduct for a fee; engaging in sexual conduct with child under age 18 for a fee; penalties.
[ Text of section as amended by 2011, 178, Sec. 25 effective February 19, 2012. For text effective until February 19, 2012, see above. ]
Section 53A. (a) Whoever engages, agrees to engage or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee, shall be punished by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than 1 year or by a fine of not more than $500, or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.
(be) Whoever pays, agrees to pay or offers to pay another person to engage in sexual conduct, or to agree to engage in sexual conduct with another person, shall be punished by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than 2 and one-half years or by a fine of not less than $1, 000 and not more than $5, 000, or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.
(see) Whoever pays, agrees to pay or offers to pay any person with the intent to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 18, or whoever is paid, agrees to pay or agrees that a third person be paid in return for aiding a person who intends to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 18, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 10 years, or in the house of correction for not more than 2 and one-half years and by a fine of not less than $3, 000 and not more than $10, 000, or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not; provided, however, that a prosecution commenced under this section shall not be continued without a finding or placed on file.
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I couldn't find a definition of "sexual conduct" in the Massachusetts statutes, but I did find this on a Massachusetts lawyer's web site:
[url]http://www.bostoncriminallawyer.com/lawyer-attorney-1614225.html[/url]
Accessed October 29, 2012:
"The legal definition of 'sexual conduct' in Massachusetts includes intercourse, oral sex and any intrusion of a part of someone's body or some other object into the genital or anal area of another person's body."
Since giving a man an orgasm with a hand or hands only doesn't involve an intrusion of a part of her body "into" any part of his body, I don't see how the Massachusetts law against "sexual conduct * * * in return for a fee" is violated when a masseuse gives a man an orgasm with only her hand or hands.
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But we're in the Atlanta, Georgia thread or section, so let's look at Georgia's law:
16-6-9. Prostitution.
A person commits the offense of prostitution when he or she performs or offers or consents to perform a sexual act, including but not limited to sexual intercourse or sodomy, for money or other items of value.
[url]http://statutes.laws.com/georgia/title-16/chapter-6/16-6-9[/url]
Accessed October 29, 2012.
So the next question is whether hand to genital contact, or oral-genital contact, is defined as a "sexual act" in Georgia.
Georgia statute 16-6-2. Sodomy; aggravated sodomy.
(a) A person commits the offense of sodomy when he performs or submits to any sexual act involving the sex organs of one person and the mouth or anus of another.
Georgia statute 16-6-5. 1. Sexual assault against persons in custody; sexual assault against person detained or patient in hospital or other institution; sexual assault by practitioner of psychotherapy against patient. (a) As used in this Code section, the term:
* * *
4."Sexual contact" means any contact for the purpose of sexual gratification of the actor with the intimate parts of a person not married to the actor. * * *
However, that definition seems to apply to only sexual assault against persons in custody or in psychotherapy and for the sexual gratification of the "actor", who in a massage parlor would be the masseuse. I'd have look at the court decisions to say for sure, but what I've found so-far gives me the impression one could reasonably argue hand jobs for compensation for gratification of the recipient rather than the actor are legal in Georgia.
Param
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1582553]Sounds interesting. Would you care to post those HJ statutes here? Have a feeling that, in the end, local laws (anywhere) are subject to interpretation on the side of LE, politics and other influential means.[/QUOTE]It is sections 16-6-16 and 16-6-17 of the Georgia Code for those of us in Atlanta.
[url]http://prostitution.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=731[/url]
[url]http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/gacode/[/url]
It is interesting to read the rest of section 16-6. Mongers should read 16-6-12 (pandering) and the penalty for it (16-6-13).
However. 16-6-2 makes sodomy illegal, which includes a consensual BJ from your wife or girlfriend. The Georgia courts have generally held that part unenforceable under the Georgia Constitution, as it infringes upon the right of privacy.
Oh, and 16-6-18 makes it illegal for unmarried people to have sex. 16-6-19 makes it illegal to have sex with anyone other than your spouse.
How does our government get to choose which part of a chapter they get to enforce?
BTW-I know a bunch of LEOs, and NONE of them think mongering should be illegal. They think it's a victim-less crime unless the pro is a minor.
A Georgia lawyer told me there had to be some sort of penetration, which is consistent with what you state here.
We probably have all seen the 'masturbation for hire' charges. It sounds like there may be a separate law for that.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad; 1582739]Sure, I'm happy to do that.
In North Carolina, prostitution is defined in Sec. 14-203: "Definition of terms. The term 'prostitution' shall be construed to include the offering of receiving of the body for sexual intercourse for hire, and shall also be construed to include the offering of receiving of the body for indiscriminate sexual intercourse without hire."
Additionally, according to an article by a North Carolina lawyer who previously was a superior court judge and was a member of the North Carolina legislature,"North Carolina's current prostitution law specifically applies only to vaginal intercourse." You'll find the article here:
[url]http://www.raywarrenlaw.com/Amendment-QA.pdf[/url]
According to this definition, not just orgasms by hand but oral-genital contact you pay for legal in North Carolina.
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Massachusetts as another example:
[url]http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section53A[/url]
Accessed October 29, 2012:
(Please forgive the (be) and (see) for the letters that sound like those words. This web site's automatic editing changes the second and third letters in the alphabet into the words be and see. I've already asked Jackson or the current site administrator to stop using that automatic editing program in a comment in the appropriate thread or forum.)
[Text of section effective until February 19, 2012. For text effective February 19, 2012, see below. ]
Section 53A. (a) Whoever engages, agrees to engage, or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee, or whoever pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay another person to engage in sexual conduct, or to agree to engage in sexual conduct with another natural person, shall be punished by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than 1 year or by a fine of not more than $500 or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.
(be) Whoever pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay any person with the intent to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 14, or whoever is paid, agrees to pay, or agrees that a third person be paid in return for aiding a person who intends to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 14, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 10 years or in the house of correction for not more than 21/2 years, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.
Chapter 272: Section 53A. Engaging in sexual conduct for a fee; engaging in sexual conduct with child under age 18 for a fee; penalties.
[ Text of section as amended by 2011, 178, Sec. 25 effective February 19, 2012. For text effective until February 19, 2012, see above. ]
Section 53A. (a) Whoever engages, agrees to engage or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee, shall be punished by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than 1 year or by a fine of not more than $500, or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.
(be) Whoever pays, agrees to pay or offers to pay another person to engage in sexual conduct, or to agree to engage in sexual conduct with another person, shall be punished by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than 2 and one-half years or by a fine of not less than $1, 000 and not more than $5, 000, or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.
(see) Whoever pays, agrees to pay or offers to pay any person with the intent to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 18, or whoever is paid, agrees to pay or agrees that a third person be paid in return for aiding a person who intends to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 18, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 10 years, or in the house of correction for not more than 2 and one-half years and by a fine of not less than $3, 000 and not more than $10, 000, or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not; provided, however, that a prosecution commenced under this section shall not be continued without a finding or placed on file.
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I couldn't find a definition of "sexual conduct" in the Massachusetts statutes, but I did find this on a Massachusetts lawyer's web site:
[url]http://www.bostoncriminallawyer.com/lawyer-attorney-1614225.html[/url]
Accessed October 29, 2012:
"The legal definition of 'sexual conduct' in Massachusetts includes intercourse, oral sex and any intrusion of a part of someone's body or some other object into the genital or anal area of another person's body."
Since giving a man an orgasm with a hand or hands only doesn't involve an intrusion of a part of her body "into" any part of his body, I don't see how the Massachusetts law against "sexual conduct * * * in return for a fee" is violated when a masseuse gives a man an orgasm with only her hand or hands.
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But we're in the Atlanta, Georgia thread or section, so let's look at Georgia's law:
16-6-9. Prostitution.
A person commits the offense of prostitution when he or she performs or offers or consents to perform a sexual act, including but not limited to sexual intercourse or sodomy, for money or other items of value.
[url]http://statutes.laws.com/georgia/title-16/chapter-6/16-6-9[/url]
Accessed October 29, 2012.
So the next question is whether hand to genital contact, or oral-genital contact, is defined as a "sexual act" in Georgia.
Georgia statute 16-6-2. Sodomy; aggravated sodomy.
(a) A person commits the offense of sodomy when he performs or submits to any sexual act involving the sex organs of one person and the mouth or anus of another.
Georgia statute 16-6-5. 1. Sexual assault against persons in custody; sexual assault against person detained or patient in hospital or other institution; sexual assault by practitioner of psychotherapy against patient. (a) As used in this Code section, the term:
* * *
4."Sexual contact" means any contact for the purpose of sexual gratification of the actor with the intimate parts of a person not married to the actor. * * *
However, that definition seems to apply to only sexual assault against persons in custody or in psychotherapy and for the sexual gratification of the "actor", who in a massage parlor would be the masseuse. I'd have look at the court decisions to say for sure, but what I've found so-far gives me the impression one could reasonably argue hand jobs for compensation for gratification of the recipient rather than the actor are legal in Georgia.
Param[/QUOTE]
Not a lawyer, don't like the words, "including but not limited to". Any thoughts / comments. May be up to interpretation.
But we're in the Atlanta, Georgia thread or section, so let's look at Georgia's law:
16-6-9. Prostitution.
A person commits the offense of prostitution when he or she performs or offers or consents to perform a sexual act, including but not limited to sexual intercourse or sodomy, for money or other items of value.
[url]http://statutes.laws.com/georgia/title-16/chapter-6/16-6-9[/url]
Param[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sadsack2; 1583214]Not a lawyer, don't like the words,"including but not limited to". Any thoughts / comments. May be up to interpretation.
But we're in the Atlanta, Georgia thread or section, so let's look at Georgia's law:
16-6-9. Prostitution.
A person commits the offense of prostitution when he or she performs or offers or consents to perform a sexual act, including but not limited to sexual intercourse or sodomy, for money or other items of value.
[url]http://statutes.laws.com/georgia/title-16/chapter-6/16-6-9[/url]
Param[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]That law is so vaguely written, it could be interpreted many ways. I assume they did that so they could interpret it any way they desire.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1582556]The other ones directly across the street and down the road (4 more) in both directions. Have you done any research on AMPs in that area to find out?[/QUOTE]Agree Nite. Pretty much all of the ones down that part of Piedmont are open past 11 pm, and mostly 24hrs last time I checked. I've been at 6am on a few occasions.
[QUOTE=Dudeatl; 1583186]A Georgia lawyer told me there had to be some sort of penetration, which is consistent with what you state here.
We probably have all seen the 'masturbation for hire' charges. It sounds like there may be a separate law for that.[/QUOTE]Sorry. 16-6-16 makes "masturbation for hire" a misdemeanor, and defines it.
"A person, including a masseur or masseuse, commits the offense of masturbation for hire when he erotically stimulates the genital organs of another, whether resulting in orgasm or not, by manual or other bodily contact exclusive of sexual intercourse or by instrumental manipulation for money or the substantial equivalent thereof."
Whether or not they're actively pursuing massage parlor patrons I cannot say.
[QUOTE=CajunFlame; 1583453]Sorry. 16-6-16 makes "masturbation for hire" a misdemeanor, and defines it.
"A person, including a masseur or masseuse, commits the offense of masturbation for hire when he erotically stimulates the genital organs of another, whether resulting in orgasm or not, by manual or other bodily contact exclusive of sexual intercourse or by instrumental manipulation for money or the substantial equivalent thereof."
Whether or not they're actively pursuing massage parlor patrons I cannot say.[/QUOTE]Thanks for finding that statute. It didn't come up when I looked on-line for Georgia's prostitution laws.
The Georgia statute, Section 16-6-16,"masturbation for hire" by its language makes the act a misdemeanor for the masseuse but not for the customer.
Also, it is a misdemeanor only if the masseuse gives a customer a hand job [i]for hire[/i]. So if a customer pays for a massage, and the masseuse gives him a massage and while they are together does a hand job without being paid for specifically for the hand job (doesn't ask for more money to do a hand job) , it can be argued the massage was for hire but the hand job was not. So in a way, what the Georgia law does is outlaw what on this web site is sometimes called "upselling", which may be to the customer's advantage.
If a law enforcement officer were to pose as a customer and [u]ask[/u] for* masturbation for hire, there would be a strong argument that constitutes [u]entrapment[/u], which in many if not all states of the USA a defense to a criminal charge. Probably in most if not all states it is illegal for a law enforcement officer to ask you to do something that is illegal and then arrest or charge you for doing what the law enforcement officer asked you to do. So a masseuse is probably safe if she gives a customer a hand job only after he asks for one.
In states where it is a crime for the customer ask for a sexual act for which he pays explicitly, customers need to be careful how they phrase their requests.
But in Georgia, what I've seen so far still makes it seem to me customers seeking "manual release" from a masseuse can ask for it without breaking any laws.
Param
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad; 1583646]Thanks for finding that statute. It didn't come up when I looked on-line for Georgia's prostitution laws.
The Georgia statute, Section 16-6-16,"masturbation for hire" by its language makes the act a misdemeanor for the masseuse but not for the customer.
Also, it is a misdemeanor only if the masseuse gives a customer a hand job [i]for hire[/i]. So if a customer pays for a massage, and the masseuse gives him a massage and while they are together does a hand job without being paid for specifically for the hand job (doesn't ask for more money to do a hand job) , it can be argued the massage was for hire but the hand job was not. So in a way, what the Georgia law does is outlaw what on this web site is sometimes called "upselling", which may be to the customer's advantage.
If a law enforcement officer were to pose as a customer and [u]ask[/u] For* masturbation for hire, there would be a strong argument that constitutes [u]entrapment[/u], which in many if not all states of the USA a defense to a criminal charge. Probably in most if not all states it is illegal for a law enforcement officer to ask you to do something that is illegal and then arrest or charge you for doing what the law enforcement officer asked you to do. So a masseuse is probably safe if she gives a customer a hand job only after he asks for one.
In states where it is a crime for the customer ask for a sexual act for which he pays explicitly, customers need to be careful how they phrase their requests.
But in Georgia, what I've seen so far still makes it seem to me customers seeking "manual release" from a masseuse can ask for it without breaking any laws.
Param[/QUOTE]I favor your interpretation, however it never seem to go that way.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad; 1583646]Thanks for finding that statute. It didn't come up when I looked on-line for Georgia's prostitution laws.
The Georgia statute, Section 16-6-16,"masturbation for hire" by its language makes the act a misdemeanor for the masseuse but not for the customer.
Also, it is a misdemeanor only if the masseuse gives a customer a hand job [i]for hire[/i]. So if a customer pays for a massage, and the masseuse gives him a massage and while they are together does a hand job without being paid for specifically for the hand job (doesn't ask for more money to do a hand job) , it can be argued the massage was for hire but the hand job was not. So in a way, what the Georgia law does is outlaw what on this web site is sometimes called "upselling", which may be to the customer's advantage.
If a law enforcement officer were to pose as a customer and [u]ask[/u] For* masturbation for hire, there would be a strong argument that constitutes [u]entrapment[/u], which in many if not all states of the USA a defense to a criminal charge. Probably in most if not all states it is illegal for a law enforcement officer to ask you to do something that is illegal and then arrest or charge you for doing what the law enforcement officer asked you to do. So a masseuse is probably safe if she gives a customer a hand job only after he asks for one.
In states where it is a crime for the customer ask for a sexual act for which he pays explicitly, customers need to be careful how they phrase their requests.
But in Georgia, what I've seen so far still makes it seem to me customers seeking "manual release" from a masseuse can ask for it without breaking any laws.
Param[/QUOTE]I'm no lawyer, but it could be argued, depending on the nature of the ad the cost of the massage that additional services are implied. If an ad has a hot girl (not the real one) in a bikini offering a massage for $160 you could argue something is going on there. At the same time I suspect LE isn't going to lure someone in unless they have a pretty good case by getting someone to request or commit to something they could charge them with. Didn't this happen to an Atlanta Braves player down in Florida in the last few years?
This is interesting info. I saw Zee expecting a good massage, which it was, but ended up getting full body massage! I didn't ask or even hint, but was pleasantly surprised. She's a bigger girl with huge tits. She's fond of the twins wears cleavage shirts. If you are into looks or size, I'd go elsewhere but if you want a wonderful, deep tissue massage with the possibility of an HJ then I wouldn't hesitate to see her again.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad; 1583646]Thanks for finding that statute. It didn't come up when I looked on-line for Georgia's prostitution laws.
The Georgia statute, Section 16-6-16,"masturbation for hire" by its language makes the act a misdemeanor for the masseuse but not for the customer.
Also, it is a misdemeanor only if the masseuse gives a customer a hand job [i]for hire[/i]. So if a customer pays for a massage, and the masseuse gives him a massage and while they are together does a hand job without being paid for specifically for the hand job (doesn't ask for more money to do a hand job) , it can be argued the massage was for hire but the hand job was not. So in a way, what the Georgia law does is outlaw what on this web site is sometimes called "upselling", which may be to the customer's advantage.
If a law enforcement officer were to pose as a customer and [u]ask[/u] For* masturbation for hire, there would be a strong argument that constitutes [u]entrapment[/u], which in many if not all states of the USA a defense to a criminal charge. Probably in most if not all states it is illegal for a law enforcement officer to ask you to do something that is illegal and then arrest or charge you for doing what the law enforcement officer asked you to do. So a masseuse is probably safe if she gives a customer a hand job only after he asks for one.
In states where it is a crime for the customer ask for a sexual act for which he pays explicitly, customers need to be careful how they phrase their requests.
But in Georgia, what I've seen so far still makes it seem to me customers seeking "manual release" from a masseuse can ask for it without breaking any laws.
Param[/QUOTE]
Price and link for Zee? Seems USASG is messing up again as it's not copying the quote when I reply to it.
I was excited to see my favorite Sunny back at Bally. Definitely will be a regular again to go see her.
Massage = 8.
Attractiveness = 9.
Attitude = 10
Here's her link. She's a very kind girl as well so treat her nice! I wanted to pull out them big titties so bad but she didn't let me. Hopefully you have better luck. Prices are exactly what she indicates on the link as there was no upselling at all.
[url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/zen-thai-healing-touch-midtown-outcall/14419332[/url]
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1584044]Price and link for Zee? Seems USASG is messing up again as it's not copying the quote when I reply to it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dudeatl;1583995]I'm no lawyer, but it could be argued, depending on the nature of the ad the cost of the massage that additional services are implied. If an ad has a hot girl (not the real one) in a bikini offering a massage for $160 you could argue something is going on there. At the same time I suspect LE isn't going to lure someone in unless they have a pretty good case by getting someone to request or commit to something they could charge them with. Didn't this happen to an Atlanta Braves player down in Florida in the last few years?[/QUOTE]They don't need nothing to bust you, impound your car, take you to jail. Prosecuting for the same offense is a different subject
Late Monday night I got a text from this girl named Lena. I asked her if I knew her or something and she said "Yes, I used to give you bodyrubs." I asked her if she knew my name, and she did know it. At this point, I started wondering if it was Lena off of Holcome Bridge Road who works with Nataly. I asked her if she was off Holcombe Bridge Road and she said no. So after that, I asked her to send me a picture of just her face to see if I would recognize her. She then sends me pics, but none of her face whatsoever. I agreed to meet her and drove to a hotel on Peachtree Dunwoody Road. When I get there, I go to her room and she lets me in, doesn't look familiar to me at all either. Then this guy comes out of the bathroom and tells me to give them the money now and I can be on my way. Me and the guy start taking swings at each other with Lena watching in the room. After I got him out of the way, I bolted out of there. I do have pics of this girl's body if you want to see them to see if you know her or if she has texted you before. Beware of her, her number started with 413 when she texted me.
[QUOTE=Sam1969; 1584452]I was excited to see my favorite Sunny back at Bally. Definitely will be a regular again to go see her.
Massage = 8.
Attractiveness = 9.
Attitude = 10[/QUOTE]Might like to give her a try can I ask what the total damage was? Thanks
[QUOTE=Zipper34;1585277]Late Monday night I got a text from this girl named Lena. I asked her if I knew her or something and she said "Yes, I used to give you bodyrubs." I asked her if she knew my name, and she did know it. At this point, I started wondering if it was Lena off of Holcome Bridge Road who works with Nataly. I asked her if she was off Holcombe Bridge Road and she said no. So after that, I asked her to send me a picture of just her face to see if I would recognize her. She then sends me pics, but none of her face whatsoever. I agreed to meet her and drove to a hotel on Peachtree Dunwoody Road. When I get there, I go to her room and she lets me in, doesn't look familiar to me at all either. Then this guy comes out of the bathroom and tells me to give them the money now and I can be on my way. Me and the guy start taking swings at each other with Lena watching in the room. After I got him out of the way, I bolted out of there. I do have pics of this girl's body if you want to see them to see if you know her or if she has texted you before. Beware of her, her number started with 413 when she texted me.[/QUOTE]Probably best to post those pics here for all to see.
Please post all her pics on here ASAP!
[QUOTE=Zipper34;1585277]Late Monday night I got a text from this girl named Lena. I asked her if I knew her or something and she said "Yes, I used to give you bodyrubs." I asked her if she knew my name, and she did know it. At this point, I started wondering if it was Lena off of Holcome Bridge Road who works with Nataly. I asked her if she was off Holcombe Bridge Road and she said no. So after that, I asked her to send me a picture of just her face to see if I would recognize her. She then sends me pics, but none of her face whatsoever. I agreed to meet her and drove to a hotel on Peachtree Dunwoody Road. When I get there, I go to her room and she lets me in, doesn't look familiar to me at all either. Then this guy comes out of the bathroom and tells me to give them the money now and I can be on my way. Me and the guy start taking swings at each other with Lena watching in the room. After I got him out of the way, I bolted out of there. I do have pics of this girl's body if you want to see them to see if you know her or if she has texted you before. Beware of her, her number started with 413 when she texted me.[/QUOTE]
I hope the link posts correctly, but I am curious if anyone has seen Kelly? [url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/BodyRubs/welcome-to-your-new-addiction-open-7-days-10am-10pm-classy-and-unique-80hh-150h-220h12-22/13977864[/url]?
I only find two references on Google and can't find her on the other site. Price of seems reasonable.
Went to Rising Spirit today, a massage school in Sandy Springs, hoping to get a nice, hourlong massage for $40. Didn't quite turn out that way. First, I got a black girl named Alisha, who said she was going to graduate in another week so I assumed her skills would be good. Her massage skills were terrible, all forearms, and she would put too much pressure in places she shouldn't. Second, the room had a bad smell to it like cigarette smoke. Third, the stuff she used to massage me was thick like axle grease. No hot towels to o clean up with at the end of the session either. Horrible time and, when I got home, I showered but could not clean that shit off. Whatever it was, it left a pasty, sticky feeling. Would not return even if it were free.
I needed me some spinner time, so from reports, I want to Royal, last Thursday, to see Annie / Anna. She is small not a oz of chub and some very nice tatas for a small girl. She has a great attitude speaks English. I ask where she worked before she only Royal. She was the only girl there and she said business was slow. She said Amy was off for a few days, I was thinking of a 4hand as reported earlier. I gave her. 6 for the hr. The TS was good, everything scrubbed clean. Her massage skills are not the best but OK, I was playing with her ass and tits anytime she was in reach, didn't seem to mind. At the end she just said finished, I said, pointing to mr happy not yet, and she got right to it giving me one of the best HJ I have had in along time. Never any $ talked about so I tip. 4 she asked for. 2 more and I said next time, and there will be a next next week. I am going to make sure Amy is with her for fun time.
Happy Trails
Stopped by gold spa on Wednesday night, and was quite thoroughly surprised. I am usually able to squeeze by with 160/180 through a bit of haggling and what not, but this night was different. Got shut down by the first hottie that came in. They were expecting a standard of 360 out of me. Wasnt going to pay that price, so I started to walk out. I was expecting some resistance or something, but nothing. I would expect this from like a weekend night or something, but on a wdnesday evening? Come on. What is going on here?
[QUOTE=LatinoG; 1411952]Hey guys, here to give a new report,
So I went back to Q Massage in Kennesaw this past week and did the 6o min massage for. 6 house fee again. This time I got a nice korean lady looking to be in her mid's 30s. Average massage on back. Here comes the flip and did a good HJ for. 4 which wasnt bad. Unfortunately no other extras were offered at this time either and quite frankly I actually liked the last visit better. One thing that I did not like though was after I was finished and put my clothes back on, I walk out of the room she is up front waiting to say goodbye and she runs up to me and tries to rush me out of the place like something's about to happen, she throws a bottle of water to me and some candy (WTF?) and yea I'm out of there confused like what just happened. Anyways I'm most likely going to stear clear of that place for a while. In the meantime I'm going to try and search for more places in my area. Again if anyone knows of any good places around the Kennesaw / Marietta / Woodstock area please let me know, as I hope to visit more places and give out reports to you guys. Ok later yall.[/QUOTE]I visited Q recently. Good massage for. 6 house feel. Not impressed with the looks of the staff. Walked in and there were 3-4 in the staging area watching tv, with sad looks on their faces. They didn't even look up to say hello. My MT was a bit chubby. I prefer spinners. The staff there looked to have way too much makeup on to hide their age. No shower so its the standard Chinese massage and finish. Decent clean up and hot towel. I went for the massage. If I want FS I know where to go. If you want a good massage and finish, this place is ok. Walls don't go to the ceiling so I could hear what was going on in the next room. And I could also hear the Chinese chatter and tv in the waiting room.
[QUOTE=Focker 2;1587516]Stopped by gold spa on Wednesday night, and was quite thoroughly surprised. I am usually able to squeeze by with 160/180 through a bit of haggling and what not, but this night was different. Got shut down by the first hottie that came in. They were expecting a standard of 360 out of me. Wasnt going to pay that price, so I started to walk out. I was expecting some resistance or something, but nothing. I would expect this from like a weekend night or something, but on a wdnesday evening? Come on. What is going on here?[/QUOTE]Time to start boycotting this place and leaving it for out of towners who don't mind spending that amount of cash out of desperation. I've spent close to that at other AMPs in different cities that had a track record of providing top notch service. What's so bad about gold is that you always run the risk of getting rushed service with an attitude no matter what price you pay.