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[QUOTE=MeCook;5500355]I guess you should believe rubmaps about happiness and not your fellow mongers that have been posting about happiness. Then that will save you a trip to check out if their sign is on or not. And if you call their number someone might answer the phone. They might tell you if they are closed or not.

I think you might be able to get an appointment at Blue Star. They might be open.

You better not try sunflower because they dont have a open sign.[/QUOTE]Mahalo! Point well taken.

[QUOTE=MeCook;5500633]What I understood CheapCharlie was saying was don't be tipping big and expect a secret service menu to appear. Just give the girl a bigger tip if you appreciate what the has done for you. Period. No strings attached.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Darkman808;5500392]First you get all buss' up cause I "suggested" paying more.

I didn't suggest it. I merely pointed out what some mongers have been doing forever. As seen here on this board.

But den, after you said all that, you admit that you "give a little more".

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Can't make this stuff up!

No worries, far too many pake guys on here for the basic system too blow up.

I've been mongering for many years. As far back as I can remember, it's been $50 HF and $150 tip to girl at most AMP.

In more recent years, $200 for tip.

With AMPs closed during LE raids, then COVID, the laws of supply and demand kicked in. Girls doing HJ's only trying to grab that kala guys would ordinarily pay at an AMP. That strategy was almost working. Almost.

But many guys saying "no" and go home blue balls.

Now, AMPs are returning, slowly. So mongers now get more options again.

Bruddahs can relax.

Pretty soon the HJ girls will be back to old time regular rates as more guys go back to the AMPs again. As girls get more comfortable with the relaxed LE scene here, more AMPs (and familiar girls) will return.[/QUOTE]I never get "buss up" I just agreed with what Nightwing said.

[QUOTE=Darkman808;5500392]Now, AMPs are returning, slowly. So mongers now get more options again.

Bruddahs can relax.

Pretty soon the HJ girls will be back to old time regular rates as more guys go back to the AMPs again. As girls get more comfortable with the relaxed LE scene here, more AMPs (and familiar girls) will return.[/QUOTE]AMP's are not returning slowly. If you're using Happiness as an example of AMP's returning, not a good one as Happy only reopened because she needs things payed off. She's still not supposed to be doing what she's doing based on what happened before. So definitely she's taking a huge risk especially at the same location.

[QUOTE=Botoman;5499217]Which spa Yuna stay at now?[/QUOTE]Aloha gents,

Could anyone share (DM is fine) where Yuna is? Would love to try. Mahalo in advanced.

[QUOTE=RiverRaid;5501592]AMP's are not returning slowly. If you're using Happiness as an example of AMP's returning, not a good one as Happy only reopened because she needs things payed off. She's still not supposed to be doing what she's doing based on what happened before. So definitely she's taking a huge risk especially at the same location.[/QUOTE]The last time I went on the court website, it showed that Happy's case was dismissed. She should be careful, but I don't think she's under any restrictions.

[QUOTE=RiverRaid;5501592]AMP's are not returning slowly. If you're using Happiness as an example of AMP's returning, not a good one as Happy only reopened because she needs things payed off. She's still not supposed to be doing what she's doing based on what happened before. So definitely she's taking a huge risk especially at the same location.[/QUOTE]Your comment is about one place. There are others that are in business right now. Read this board more. Business is picking up more today than at the worst of the shutdown back in mid 2020.

[QUOTE=Darkman808;5502002]Your comment is about one place. There are others that are in business right now. Read this board more. Business is picking up more today than at the worst of the shutdown back in mid 2020.[/QUOTE]Obviously since we are not in lock down like last year and yes there are a few players back or coming back (Happiness, Vanilla, Pali house) but what else? I don't count the Thai MT places or any MT places as AMP's even though some do AMP service (for super high prices) and I don't count the usual CC, EC, or CS places as that's a given those places will always have new one's popping up (many with hit or miss services as well or bait and switch). I don't see the Rejuve's, Roses, Nabi, Nirvana, Empire, etc coming back.

Sunflower is one of the more successful one's that came back and is doing well but I remember you had a rant on them or at least one of their providers.

[QUOTE=Lknfrpssy;5501948]The last time I went on the court website, it showed that Happy's case was dismissed. She should be careful, but I don't think she's under any restrictions.[/QUOTE]But she and all the indicted still need to be careful.

If they get raided again, previous charge must affect next. Especially in Hawaii.

Actually there is NO "100% safety" in this business. At your own risk, this is always true.

[QUOTE=RiverRaid;5502105] ... I don't count the Thai MT places or any MT places as AMP's even though some do AMP service (for super high prices) and I don't count the usual CC, EC, or CS places as that's a given those places will always have new one's popping up (many with hit or miss services as well). I don't see the Rejuve's, Roses, Nabi, Nirvana, Empire, etc coming back.[/QUOTE]Well you can "count" whatever YOU want to. Good for you.

Meanwhile, you just said yourself, there are places to get what you want, if you want to part with your money. If you don't, then you don't get any. Right?

[QUOTE=RiverRaid;5502105]Yes there are a few players back or coming back (Happiness, Vanilla, Pali house) but what else? I don't count the Thai MT places or any MT places as AMP's even though some do AMP service (for super high prices) and I don't count the usual CC, EC, or CS places as that's a given those places will always have new one's popping up (many with hit or miss services as well). I don't see the Rejuve's, Roses, Nabi, Nirvana, Empire, etc coming back.[/QUOTE]And more will close their door soon.

Tonbo, Osaka for sure.

I don't think young street's big places will be open soon, who the hell want to take burden of at least 10 k rental a month? Happy has trouble finding the right girls now, and AMPs (unlike Chinese spots) with relaxation license are always in watching list, though le let them do. They cost more than bs to maintain, bs had financial trouble with 2 top girls. Will girls fly to Hawaii if they open? I doubt it.

Forget about hula, kison location. Wong building owner in paranoid once irs contacted with them.

[QUOTE=Prudential808;5502143]But she and all the indicted still need to be careful.

If they get raided again, previous charge must affect next. Especially in Hawaii.

Actually there is NO "100% safety" in this business. At your own risk, this is always true.[/QUOTE]A good number of them completed their deferral periods and got their records expunged. All that law enforcement work and money has ultimately ended up with no convictions.

[QUOTE=Prudential808;5502189]And more will close their door soon.

Tonbo, Osaka for sure.

I don't think young street's big places will be open soon, who the hell want to take burden of at least 10 k rental a month? Happy has trouble finding the right girls now, and AMPs (unlike Chinese spots) with relaxation license are always in watching list, though le let them do. They cost more than bs to maintain, bs had financial trouble with 2 top girls. Will girls fly to Hawaii if they open? I doubt it.

Forget about hula, kison location. Wong building owner in paranoid once irs contacted with them.[/QUOTE]I hate to say it but We will probably see more and more places using condos instead of the old fashioned places that have the table showers. More like century center/century square/executive center. Junko has been operating that way for many years now. I wish the Chinese would furnished their places better like Junko does and offer us more than a mattress on the floor.

Do you think Happy can get nicer girls with $150 tips or getting girls with $200 tips? I really don't want to lose seeing Yuna again even if I have to pay her escort prices. I believe she will be worth my visit. It was very hard on my mongering without Yuna or sugar around. As I said before, those two women have really ruined my mongering with other women. Not that I have not tried finding providers. So far no luck and I have tried many many girls. Those two are still irreplaceable.

[QUOTE=MeCook;5502254]I hate to say it but We will probably see more and more places using condos instead of the old fashioned places that have the table showers. More like century center/century square/executive center. Junko has been operating that way for many years now. I wish the Chinese would furnished their places better like Junko does and offer us more than a mattress on the floor.

Do you think Happy can get nicer girls with $150 tips or getting girls with $200 tips? I really don't want to lose seeing Yuna again even if I have to pay her escort prices. I believe she will be worth my visit. It was very hard on my mongering without Yuna or sugar around. As I said before, those two women have really ruined my mongering with other women. Not that I have not tried finding providers. So far no luck and I have tried many many girls. Those two are still irreplaceable.[/QUOTE]Before possible though Hawaii was known for its less money, more effort. Cause it guaranteed a lot of money, more than 1.5-2 k a day. Not anymore.

Now many tops at AMP rely on long time regulars a lot, girls need new clients that can replace former regulars. It was possible when AMP ads are literally all safe way to bring more clients. Now most AMPs with fixed address hesitate it, and even ad helpers don't want to do that for AMPs. Chinese connections or Thai mts can, cause they change address very quickly or official title is not undecided license named relaxation or 24 hours spa (normal sense, guys go to skin care shop at 1 am?) that has zero professional equipment?

With raids experience and covid, laws getting stricter focused on people who get profit from others' prostitution more, I doubt owners want old tokyo, nirvana way with huge maintenance fee (unlike mainland, we don't drive 30 mins to go to AMP located in shitty areas in special section, where rental is cheap).

Actually more and more restriction on suspicious massage, spa area in mainland.

Hawaii is still one of the most generous laissez-faire state compared to mainland. But that doesn't mean girls come here.

Some providers mentioned that Hawaii guys demand too much and pay is better for doing less on the mainland.

[QUOTE=Prudential808;5503269]Before possible though Hawaii was known for its less money, more effort. Cause it guaranteed a lot of money, more than 1.5-2 k a day. Not anymore.

Now many tops at AMP rely on long time regulars a lot, girls need new clients that can replace former regulars. It was possible when AMP ads are literally all safe way to bring more clients. Now most AMPs with fixed address hesitate it, and even ad helpers don't want to do that for AMPs. Chinese connections or Thai mts can, cause they change address very quickly or official title is not undecided license named relaxation or 24 hours spa (normal sense, guys go to skin care shop at 1 am?) that has zero professional equipment?

With raids experience and covid, laws getting stricter focused on people who get profit from others' prostitution more, I doubt owners want old tokyo, nirvana way with huge maintenance fee (unlike mainland, we don't drive 30 mins to go to AMP located in shitty areas in special section, where rental is cheap).

Actually more and more restriction on suspicious massage, spa area in mainland.

Hawaii is still one of the most generous laissez-faire state compared to mainland. But that doesn't mean girls come here.[/QUOTE]