Re: Looking for suggestions
[QUOTE=Bonghit420;6448280]Pickings are slim nowadays.
And I know these can be hit or miss.
But based on pics that just do it for me LOL am tempted to dream about AleJa, Justy or librarian that is now in Sanford.
Anyone got suggestions on which one to try.[/QUOTE]I am not familiar with librarian, There is a good review on Justy recently. I did have a dream with her a while back. A little difficult to schedule. She was good enough for me to try again. I made a few attempts to schedule and it never happened so I gave up. Aleja was great. I had a dream with her several months ago. Between AleJa and Justy I would go with AleJa.
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Re: Scammed by BySpacecoast
[QUOTE=MJ1960;6449214]I contacted her and got the same scam setup. "I need help with the room payment ". She sounded legit. Lucky for me I didn't have time to deal with that so I told her I would try another time. Which I intended to do. But thanks to you all I now know better.
Thanks again.
MJ.[/QUOTE]Glad you were able to avoid that MJ. She is still posting. Hopefully she will be Bye Bye Spacecoast soon. I see she changed her pictures.
We all run across some bad eggs out there from time to time. I know the providers have theirs too and I would say many more than we run across. I have been told a few stories of clients who get their jollies off on ripping off providers.
Rusty Z.
When a provider crosses the finished line
I thought I would share this subject from a couple of my experiences to pass along some "learn from my mistakes" or maybe some advice or words of wisdom from more experienced readers.
The subject I am referring to is when a provider reaches out for help. Particularly, spotting them some money. I am still new to this, and it has happened to me a few times. This happened to me once again recently so while I was looking back to see where I went wrong, I thought I would post my thoughts on this.
The few times this has happened to me it was with a provider that I frequently visited (repeats weekly or even bi-weekly). It was always right after the 3rd or 4th visit. I would get a call from the provider that they had an emergency. The needed a couple hundred to cover a hotel room because of slow night, late night bail money for Uncle Bubba who got picked up earlier in the day for selling shine without a tax permit, late night AC service call to replace a broken belt on a home air conditioner. All you guys out there with any handyman experience know how much it sucks when you fan belt breaks on your home AC unit in the evening. LOL.
The first two times this happened I agreed and never had a chance to make another visit. Repeated requests came so quickly I knew I was never going to break even, and the requests were going to perpetuate. So, I broke off contact.
There was one recently that I was able to visit after the first request for help. She asked if it could be used to cover the donation for the next visit. I agreed. Within a very short time she contacted me and asked for a visit. She asked if we could do half this visit and half the next visit. I agreed. The previous visits were HR for $. 8. I was always there between fifty minutes to just over an hour and was a great time for me.
So, on this first visit I left $. 2 (donation and tip). The visit wasn't nearly as good as the previous visits. Somewhat rushed and she was walking me to the door right at thirty minutes. Maybe it was half time now, half time later? I kind of doubt that. About a week later she calls and asks for me to visit. Ok, maybe she was having an off day and this visit will be alright. If anything, better than the last visit, right? Wrong. I left the same donation and tip as the first repayment visit. This session was so rushed, and I was in and out the door in fifteen minutes.
So, half donation for half time then half donation for a quarter of the time. The math didn't work out for me. The half I got was half assed and the only full I got was fully screwed.
Well, since the line was successfully traversed why not try it again. Not long after help was requested once again. I agreed but this time I was kind of turned off by it. Not all that eager to visit again. Probably because subconsciously, I knew this cycle would turn into a self-eating watermelon. Oh, if you are wondering if they contacted me to stop by since I had credit? Never happened. It is just like helping any family or friend out. You don't hear from them anymore. There are people out there that do have integrity and are anxious to clear the books so to speak, but they make up only a very small percentage in my experience.
After this time, I looked back and thought about where things went off the rails for me. I looked at it from both the provider as well as me from any other client's point of view, which helped me put in a prospective so that I would know what to do to try to minimize this from happening and what to do the next time it happens.
When a provider asks a client for help it goes two different ways: the client refuses, or the client agrees.
Of the clients who refuse I believe most of them would be put off by this request and not only refuse to help but also not visit them again. Of the smaller number of clients that agreed to help, a large percentage would probably feel disappointed on the next visit I. E. , a little something extra wasn't in with the visit for all their troubles. Therefore, they would probably not visit anymore.
For the clients that agreed to help and were content with the following visit (s), I would say nearly all would be asked for help again since the provider stepped over the line and back successfully. Eventually, by means of frequency or the amount requested, all these clients will fall in line with the clients who refused originally.
The result from all the scenarios I was able to come up with is that the client will stop visiting the requesting provider.
This must be clearly obvious to the providers that have done this to other clients in the past.
Asking a repeat client for help equals a former client.
So, why do they do this to me then? The reason is irrelevant to me. It is the eventual result. Either they don't want me as a client or at best, they are willing to take a chance at losing me as a repeat client. It is that simple. For everyone knows or should know, you "don't shit where you eat. ".
All the instances that this has happened to me, frequent repeat was one of the common factors. So, if I do repeat, there will be some time between visits. Now, I believe the few that I had this experience with represents only a small percentage, it is just something I do now. Secondly, instead of me allowing the line to be pushed until it reaches the cliff, I have now moved the cliff to the line. For now, I know now that if a provider asks me for that for that type of help, they no longer want or care to have me as a repeat client.
Now, the one scenario that I don't have experience with is when a client refuses to help and then attempts or does visit again after the request and refusal. How does did it go? Did it work out?
I know that this is obvious to the experienced readers, I am still quite new to all this and thought I were share my thoughts about this to maybe help other noobs like me.
Little Head Doing The Thinking
[QUOTE=RustyZipper;6454580]I thought I would share this subject from a couple of my experiences to pass along some "learn from my mistakes" or maybe some advice or words of wisdom from more experienced readers.
The subject I am referring to is when a provider reaches out for help. Particularly, spotting them some money. I am still new to this, and it has happened to me a few times. This happened to me once again recently so while I was looking back to see where I went wrong, I thought I would post my thoughts on this.
The few times this has happened to me it was with a provider that I frequently visited (repeats weekly or even bi-weekly). It was always right after the 3rd or 4th visit. I would get a call from the provider that they had an emergency. The needed a couple hundred to cover a hotel room because of slow night, late night bail money for Uncle Bubba who got picked up earlier in the day for selling shine without a tax permit, late night AC service call to replace a broken belt on a home air conditioner. All you guys out there with any handyman experience know how much it sucks when you fan belt breaks on your home AC unit in the evening. LOL.
The first two times this happened I agreed and never had a chance to make another visit. Repeated requests came so quickly I knew I was never going to break even, and the requests were going to perpetuate. So, I broke off contact.
There was one recently that I was able to visit after the first request for help. She asked if it could be used to cover the donation for the next visit. I agreed. Within a very short time she contacted me and asked for a visit. She asked if we could do half this visit and half the next visit. I agreed. The previous visits were HR for $. 8. I was always there between fifty minutes to just over an hour and was a great time for me.
So, on this first visit I left $. 2 (donation and tip). The visit wasn't nearly as good as the previous visits. Somewhat rushed and she was walking me to the door right at thirty minutes. Maybe it was half time now, half time later? I kind of doubt that. About a week later she calls and asks for me to visit. Ok, maybe she was having an off day and this visit will be alright. If anything, better than the last visit, right? Wrong. I left the same donation and tip as the first repayment visit. This session was so rushed, and I was in and out the door in fifteen minutes.
So, half donation for half time then half donation for a quarter of the time. The math didn't work out for me. The half I got was half assed and the only full I got was fully screwed.
Well, since the line was successfully traversed why not try it again. Not long after help was requested once again. I agreed but this time I was kind of turned off by it. Not all that eager to visit again. Probably because subconsciously, I knew this cycle would turn into a self-eating watermelon. Oh, if you are wondering if they contacted me to stop by since I had credit? Never happened. It is just like helping any family or friend out. You don't hear from them anymore. There are people out there that do have integrity and are anxious to clear the books so to speak, but they make up only a very small percentage in my experience.
After this time, I looked back and thought about where things went off the rails for me. I looked at it from both the provider as well as me from any other client's point of view, which helped me put in a prospective so that I would know what to do to try to minimize this from happening and what to do the next time it happens.
When a provider asks a client for help it goes two different ways: the client refuses, or the client agrees.
Of the clients who refuse I believe most of them would be put off by this request and not only refuse to help but also not visit them again. Of the smaller number of clients that agreed to help, a large percentage would probably feel disappointed on the next visit I. E. , a little something extra wasn't in with the visit for all their troubles. Therefore, they would probably not visit anymore.
For the clients that agreed to help and were content with the following visit (s), I would say nearly all would be asked for help again since the provider stepped over the line and back successfully. Eventually, by means of frequency or the amount requested, all these clients will fall in line with the clients who refused originally.
The result from all the scenarios I was able to come up with is that the client will stop visiting the requesting provider.
This must be clearly obvious to the providers that have done this to other clients in the past.
Asking a repeat client for help equals a former client.
So, why do they do this to me then? The reason is irrelevant to me. It is the eventual result. Either they don't want me as a client or at best, they are willing to take a chance at losing me as a repeat client. It is that simple. For everyone knows or should know, you "don't shit where you eat. ".
All the instances that this has happened to me, frequent repeat was one of the common factors. So, if I do repeat, there will be some time between visits. Now, I believe the few that I had this experience with represents only a small percentage, it is just something I do now. Secondly, instead of me allowing the line to be pushed until it reaches the cliff, I have now moved the cliff to the line. For now, I know now that if a provider asks me for that for that type of help, they no longer want or care to have me as a repeat client.
Now, the one scenario that I don't have experience with is when a client refuses to help and then attempts or does visit again after the request and refusal. How does did it go? Did it work out?
I know that this is obvious to the experienced readers, I am still quite new to all this and thought I were share my thoughts about this to maybe help other noobs like me.[/QUOTE]My goodness! Incredible story, but a common one. Rusty you solved your problem with your post and gave yourself the answer! Although, I most certainly have done this before with a provider, I almost never do this these days, primarily because most of the women I see, for them it's an avocation rather than vocation! Some have homes, jobs or fairly successful at the hobby not to need "hotel money" or up front donations! Inevitably the women who do this have other priorities and we all know what they are; drugs, BF or handler, drama etc etc. Seems to be a common theme with younger women. Visiting a provider three or four times doesn't establish a relationship or connection. Seeing the same provider for years, might! I'm guilty, but not lately of unknowingly driving a provider to her drug dealer, performing personal errands with or without the woman and driving incredible distances just to help one out! Whew! Don't do it! There is enough risk in the hobby not to tempt fate! Just saying!
