November's is closed tonight, thought some might appreciate the heads up.
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November's is closed tonight, thought some might appreciate the heads up.
Just giving you guys a heads up and without going into details, Lorena is a scam artist and should be avoided. Also you should know that if anything goes wrong with you inside Venom, don't expect the management to be on your side.
Tonight, a dancer, can't remember her name, hit a customer on the head because he was not interested in getting a dance from her. She stayed in the dressing room until he left. So with this going on and allowing Lorena to scam customers and not do anything about it, the place is no longer on my list to visit.
Way to go Venom management. You out did yourself again.
Cheers.
TM.
[QUOTE=TexasMonger;2579755]
Way to go Venom management. You out did yourself again.
Cheers.
TM.[/QUOTE]To be fair that sounds like just about every club in Tucson. This towns clubs are all about fucking over everybody weather its dancers or customers. If you have a dollar they want to take it from you and tell you go get the hell out.
[QUOTE=SmokeShopJoe;2579828]To be fair that sounds like just about every club in Tucson. This towns clubs are all about fucking over everybody weather its dancers or customers. If you have a dollar they want to take it from you and tell you go get the hell out.[/QUOTE]I've said it before and I will say it again, I miss The Candy Store. Awe. Those were the days that nothing mattered but having fun.
I totally believe this. When I worked in the business, dancers could do whatever they wanted to whoever they wanted. I remember one time a dancer stole a customer's wallet. The customer complained, the manager looked in to it, and found the wallet in the dancer's locker. You know what happened to the dancer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. What's worse is that this dancer wasn't even very attractive. So, the free pass isn't just for the elite, it is for all the girls. This is why I don't even go to strip clubs any more.
[QUOTE=TexasMonger;2579755]Just giving you guys a heads up and without going into details, Lorena is a scam artist and should be avoided. Also you should know that if anything goes wrong with you inside Venom, don't expect the management to be on your side.
Tonight, a dancer, can't remember her name, hit a customer on the head because he was not interested in getting a dance from her. She stayed in the dressing room until he left. So with this going on and allowing Lorena to scam customers and not do anything about it, the place is no longer on my list to visit.
Way to go Venom management. You out did yourself again.
Cheers.
TM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Uncivil;2580340]I totally believe this. When I worked in the business, dancers could do whatever they wanted to whoever they wanted. I remember one time a dancer stole a customer's wallet. The customer complained, the manager looked in to it, and found the wallet in the dancer's locker. You know what happened to the dancer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. What's worse is that this dancer wasn't even very attractive. So, the free pass isn't just for the elite, it is for all the girls. This is why I don't even go to strip clubs any more.[/QUOTE]There you go sticking up for Venom management again. I'm starting to wonder if you are one of the managers there. Hmmmm.
[QUOTE=Feaster69;2580411]There you go sticking up for Venom management again. I'm starting to wonder if you are one of the managers there. Hmmmm.[/QUOTE]I think maybe you misread the post or read it in the wrong voice. It seems to me he is validating TM's point. Or I could be misreading yours.
[QUOTE=GodsGiftedOne;2580779]I think maybe you misread the post or read it in the wrong voice. It seems to me he is validating TM's point. Or I could be misreading yours.[/QUOTE]I'm in agreement with you. Here it is Friday night after a long day at work, can't even go see my ATFs at the place cause of what happened last night.
May have to find another watering hole with fun ladies. I hate it when you have to start all over when on a short stay in a town.
Cheers.
TM.
[QUOTE=GodsGiftedOne;2580779]I think maybe you misread the post or read it in the wrong voice. It seems to me he is validating TM's point. Or I could be misreading yours.[/QUOTE]I understand what you are saying and yes validation may have been the point but when TM is pissed with Venom staff and it's pointed out that all the Clubs are like that kinda takes the light off the Venom screw-ups I guess venom is on the bottom of my list of clubs right now LOL.
I assumed Feaster69 was being sarcastic. Based on what I said, me siding with Venom management is a pretty far stretch, one that reaches into retardation. So, yeah, I hope that was just sarcasm.
But, to another poster's point. Yes, they're all like that. I worked a door at almost every club in this town at one time or another, and the management at each and every club is just chok-full of scumbags. To me, there isn't one that is any better or any worse than the other. They're all ran the same way.
What you have to keep in mind is that just like me, just like other doormen, and just like dancers, managers hop from club to club to club. It helps if you think of the strip club scene as one huge company with one huge talent pool, and each club just being different locations of the same entity. The culture, the mindset, the business philosophies are all identical.
[QUOTE=JuicyAmie69;2579886]I've said it before and I will say it again, I miss The Candy Store. Awe. Those were the days that nothing mattered but having fun.[/QUOTE]So very, very fondly.
[QUOTE=TucsonTaoist;2583461]So very, very fondly.[/QUOTE]I was so disappointed when I started dancing again two years ago and everything seemed different to me. The ladies the men the clubs. I am sad to say the entire environment has gone so downhill that it is almost not worth going out anymore. It sucks because if we want to go to a bar we want to see naked ladies, not falling down drunken idiots, along with the rest of the bs that has been happening so sad. If I owned a club I would make sure my ladies were clean, dressed up and ready to greet with a smile on their face. I guess not everyone cares about their business the way I do.
[QUOTE=SmokeShopJoe;2579828]To be fair that sounds like just about every club in Tucson. This towns clubs are all about fucking over everybody weather its dancers or customers. If you have a dollar they want to take it from you and tell you go get the hell out.[/QUOTE]Yea I have notice how some of these dancers you tip on stage will never come to you, Or some has club bf. The way look at it you need my money to pay your bills, so I personally stop going as much. I started going to phx strip club call the high lighter, some of the women that use to be in Tucson are up there. Plus the drink are all water down, so I started drink oj and sprite give the appearance of an alcohol drink and its cheaper. Also Raiders day time girls has turn into the candy stores at night when the VIP room with the door on it.
Depite being a business, the fact of the matter is, many of these girls won't dance for people that make them uncomfortable: peopel who stink, dress like slobs, too aggressive, etc (not that I am saying you fall into one of these categories).
Just as some patrons have prefered types of dancers, girls also have prefered types of customers.
[QUOTE=NavyNow;2585046]Yea I have notice how some of these dancers you tip on stage will never come to you, Or some has club bf. The way look at it you need my money to pay your bills, so I personally stop going as much. I started going to phx strip club call the high lighter, some of the women that use to be in Tucson are up there. Plus the drink are all water down, so I started drink oj and sprite give the appearance of an alcohol drink and its cheaper. Also Raiders day time girls has turn into the candy stores at night when the VIP room with the door on it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DesertRat520;2589253]Depite being a business, the fact of the matter is, many of these girls won't dance for people that make them uncomfortable: peopel who stink, dress like slobs, too aggressive, etc (not that I am saying you fall into one of these categories).
Just as some patrons have prefered types of dancers, girls also have prefered types of customers.[/QUOTE]I'd have to say I am one of these dancers, if after a few minutes of talking and we do not click or the guy is rude I will not dance for them. I am a little different though I don't agree with people treating us like ignorant women just because we're dancers. It's all in the way you talk to us. I like to have fun too and if I'm not feeling it then I will find someone else just like any customer does. I don't feel like I have to put up with someone because of the money, if you are the one paying you don't either go find a better lady there are a few good ones left.